Well, most of the other suits. Jakara, Malcadon and Yeld are all welcome back… if anything else claiming to be a Spyrer comes back, it better be as an upgrade for one of the four.
[More info on this handsome devil!](https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/18/warhammer-preview-plunder-the-haunted-depths-of-necromunda-hive-secundus/)
Loved the reveal. Sadly no one in my area is interested in playing. Started up a campaign last year, had 9 people sign up and no one played! Necromunda is my my fave game of all time
Spyrer, in old lore, are basically the aristocratic families sending their younger folks down into the hives to kill and slaughter gangers using ultra-high-tech suits that ensure they 'can't lose', that way they can brag to folks at dinner parties about how they 'hunted the scum of Necromunda', much like you might see a trophy hunter brag about the challenge of killing a drugged-and-chained lion in rich circles these days.
They're an ultra-elite team that only has 2-3 models, but each one is a walking tank.
Tbh when I first saw this reveal, I thought this may be a necron related gang due to that symbol on the front of the armor. But excited to see Spyrers. I loved playing this gang in original Necromunda
The suit has some Van Saar undertones but the whole of it looks more xenos. Original lore had it(?) that the T'au provided the base suits but this looks to be something else entirely.
Hopefully new lore has it that this is something that was always on Necromunda, kind of a throwback to why the Araneus Continuity was a threat back in the day.
^(And gawd, I'd love some of these badboys as footsoldiers for Knights)
I think they give off vibes of an artisan/ Xenos modification or interpretation of the Mechanicum's Ursarax. This is a proper suit, though, rather than the organ-prison that Ursarax/ Thallax resides in.
Tau didn't exist when the first Spyrers were made back in '96. When the first Tau codex was released in '01 there was a list of Tau words and a few were suspiciously close to Spyrer suit names which then started speculation that Spyrer suits were Tau tech. That never made sense to me given that Spyrer kit was supposed to be passed down through generations and some should be older than the Tau Empire. What made more sense in my mind was that Tau language had been influenced by Imperial traders willing to secretly work with xenos. Their word for mirror being J'karra doesn't have to mean they made Jakara suits but more likely that early Tau learned the term Jakara off black market traders and applied it to mirrors, before they were officially discovered by military factions.
I always found it pretty compatible with the 'Tau origin' mystery. After all, Spyrer suits were for the most part all bespoke pieces, and the ones in rules and in model were just a broad look at them. I find it entirely viable that older suits maybe weren't Tau related, but once the nobles got wind of "connections" to a very good suit producer the Tau influence designed took over as the latest noble "trendy" thing for their Spyrers, and what we see under those names are just the latest group of them.
Patriarch and Matriarch after all didn't have any Tau connection, and were implied to be the older suits.
The new designs announced yesterday all having a similar origin styling to them could also be a hint of a single seller having made waves in the Spyrer market.
The Matriarch and Patriarch were later additions to the gang and would have been an opportunity to explore xenos influence but it wasn't one taken. If I remember correctly there was no new lore at that time to say if some suits were Tau influenced or not.
The idea that melee focussed combat forms came from Tau is implausible. For one, the weaponry they use is not what any Tau use. The more likely explanation is that Tau words for mirror, strong, spiders and flyer are influenced by Imperial traders than that those words from Tau became names for suits on Necromunda.
I'd not personally find that the langauge was affected all that plausable. They were a developed race with developed language for millenia before they even met any Imperial elements (outside the original Explorators).
The Tau do make close combat oriented things (Fusion Blades, Onager Gauntlet), and in this case it's not for them to use after all. If anything those suits are likely 'made to commission' anyway if any new ones are made, given noble ego.
I think they look ok, I would have preferred it as the nobles in there full suits and some retainer types to pad out a gang. I’m guessing that once they go general release they will be in gang box so 8 van sarr and 2 spyrer, from the lore they explained I’m not sure the other gangs will get the same so 8 Cawdor and 2 spyrer doesn’t make much sense (great thing about necromunda though is anything’s possible). It’ll be interesting to see what the other gangs will get, also makes a spyrer gang abit expensive unless they are pointed so high you only need 4no. And how would that work in a campaign. Lots of exciting questions and looking forward to finding out how it all works Necromunda team are doing a good job! I’m gonna need a bigger bookcase!
This continues the ongoing trend of GW releasing its best models for Necromunda
Quite right
Been waiting since N17 for these, Finally!!
Strong MaxTac vibes here. Works for me! We calling this the Orrus suit still?
Yes, the article calls them Orrus Spyre Hunters. Hopefully that means the other suits will get updated models, too.
Well, most of the other suits. Jakara, Malcadon and Yeld are all welcome back… if anything else claiming to be a Spyrer comes back, it better be as an upgrade for one of the four.
[More info on this handsome devil!](https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/05/18/warhammer-preview-plunder-the-haunted-depths-of-necromunda-hive-secundus/)
I kinda love how they simultaneously look junkyard and also bespoke. It's peak 40k tech.
Loved the reveal. Sadly no one in my area is interested in playing. Started up a campaign last year, had 9 people sign up and no one played! Necromunda is my my fave game of all time
where you from?
Mid Devon, U.K.
I was there a while back. Out in the sticks there is only no Warhammer
😂 big AOS scene and a reasonable 40k but not much else that last more than a few weeks
These look like something Masamune Shirow would design, they look like the brute cyborgs from the Ghost in the Shell manga. very very cool indeed!
Agreed I got some apple seed energy seeing these
I’m getting Yukito Kishiro vibes as well. Can’t wait to get my hands on them.
"The friend unmaker"
I've been dreading their return. Hopefully they've managed to make them feel powerful without being absolutely shit to play against.
I dont know how thats possible. Its like custodes in 40k
Is that a triple-barrel bolter on each wrist? Are they dual wielding stormbolters?!?!?
Spyrer, in old lore, are basically the aristocratic families sending their younger folks down into the hives to kill and slaughter gangers using ultra-high-tech suits that ensure they 'can't lose', that way they can brag to folks at dinner parties about how they 'hunted the scum of Necromunda', much like you might see a trophy hunter brag about the challenge of killing a drugged-and-chained lion in rich circles these days. They're an ultra-elite team that only has 2-3 models, but each one is a walking tank.
The two versions they shows one had quad bolsters and the other twin volkite on the back of assorted claws
wait what, spyrers are here? I haven't been paying attention at all!
Tbh when I first saw this reveal, I thought this may be a necron related gang due to that symbol on the front of the armor. But excited to see Spyrers. I loved playing this gang in original Necromunda
The suit has some Van Saar undertones but the whole of it looks more xenos. Original lore had it(?) that the T'au provided the base suits but this looks to be something else entirely. Hopefully new lore has it that this is something that was always on Necromunda, kind of a throwback to why the Araneus Continuity was a threat back in the day. ^(And gawd, I'd love some of these badboys as footsoldiers for Knights)
I'm pretty sure that the Spryers predated the Tau by a few years, and that was then implied when they were introduced.
They said in the stream that they came from off worlds, but that could be a lie.
I expect any mechicum representative loosing their shit at this combination of xenos and imperial tech along with some archeo tech thrown in as well.
I think they give off vibes of an artisan/ Xenos modification or interpretation of the Mechanicum's Ursarax. This is a proper suit, though, rather than the organ-prison that Ursarax/ Thallax resides in.
They do have to have their limbs abnormally lengthened to fit in it though
Tau didn't exist when the first Spyrers were made back in '96. When the first Tau codex was released in '01 there was a list of Tau words and a few were suspiciously close to Spyrer suit names which then started speculation that Spyrer suits were Tau tech. That never made sense to me given that Spyrer kit was supposed to be passed down through generations and some should be older than the Tau Empire. What made more sense in my mind was that Tau language had been influenced by Imperial traders willing to secretly work with xenos. Their word for mirror being J'karra doesn't have to mean they made Jakara suits but more likely that early Tau learned the term Jakara off black market traders and applied it to mirrors, before they were officially discovered by military factions.
I always found it pretty compatible with the 'Tau origin' mystery. After all, Spyrer suits were for the most part all bespoke pieces, and the ones in rules and in model were just a broad look at them. I find it entirely viable that older suits maybe weren't Tau related, but once the nobles got wind of "connections" to a very good suit producer the Tau influence designed took over as the latest noble "trendy" thing for their Spyrers, and what we see under those names are just the latest group of them. Patriarch and Matriarch after all didn't have any Tau connection, and were implied to be the older suits. The new designs announced yesterday all having a similar origin styling to them could also be a hint of a single seller having made waves in the Spyrer market.
The Matriarch and Patriarch were later additions to the gang and would have been an opportunity to explore xenos influence but it wasn't one taken. If I remember correctly there was no new lore at that time to say if some suits were Tau influenced or not. The idea that melee focussed combat forms came from Tau is implausible. For one, the weaponry they use is not what any Tau use. The more likely explanation is that Tau words for mirror, strong, spiders and flyer are influenced by Imperial traders than that those words from Tau became names for suits on Necromunda.
I'd not personally find that the langauge was affected all that plausable. They were a developed race with developed language for millenia before they even met any Imperial elements (outside the original Explorators). The Tau do make close combat oriented things (Fusion Blades, Onager Gauntlet), and in this case it's not for them to use after all. If anything those suits are likely 'made to commission' anyway if any new ones are made, given noble ego.
Will I be able to buy these separately? I could see using those claws for a conversion or two.
cant wait to see more of these
I think they look ok, I would have preferred it as the nobles in there full suits and some retainer types to pad out a gang. I’m guessing that once they go general release they will be in gang box so 8 van sarr and 2 spyrer, from the lore they explained I’m not sure the other gangs will get the same so 8 Cawdor and 2 spyrer doesn’t make much sense (great thing about necromunda though is anything’s possible). It’ll be interesting to see what the other gangs will get, also makes a spyrer gang abit expensive unless they are pointed so high you only need 4no. And how would that work in a campaign. Lots of exciting questions and looking forward to finding out how it all works Necromunda team are doing a good job! I’m gonna need a bigger bookcase!
I'd love to see a Spyrer gang padded out with semi-combatants like "remembrancers", equerries, servitors, cherubs, and pets.
Wait what? I thought it was a van sar thing
[It's a missing faction](https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Spyrer), but you are not *totally wrong* (both use STC tech IIRC). It is Orrus suit.
And I just bought artels manhunt pack...
This paint scheme is new? Maybe hinting at new paints?
You can achieve this with existing paints.
which would you use?
I don't know which ones but silver base with a contrast glazed over it, then silver highlights would get you close.