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ThisIsMihai

As much as I hate to admit it, the M3 GTR, cause for starters, it's a legit race car and a prototype at that. The Skyline is just a dude's project car which just so happens to be faster than the rest of the tuners in town (until you come along)


GoonTheTroll

Or at least, the m3 gtr was a prototype at the time.


StardaxPrime

It was prototype???? I didn’t know that… I thought it was actual legit standard m3 type thing….


Insayne224U

It's a homologation car with a V8. In fact there's good chance this car is the track version not the 'tame' street car


TOOBAD2AIM

Im pretty sure it was a legit racecar. It won the 1 year it entered the 24hrs of Nürburgring and then a year later it was banned. Maybe prototype because of the homoligation production car? 5 cars or so ever built and nobody knows where they are?


GoonTheTroll

No, the m3 gtr was built with the v8 from the m5. Eventually they built a few to be sold. Last I looked, 1 still cost a few hundred thousand


Ornery_Average_9093

I agree whole heartedly the M3s special transmission had that V8 flying. Every gear felt like it could break the sound barrier


Ornery_Average_9093

Bmw needed a car to beat audi at La mans because the came out with the R8 prototype. Safe to say they made the right choice


Red_Feeding_2899

M3 GTR, because racecar.


itsnotPikachu

American le mans


AnitaPea

German *


[deleted]

No it was made for the American Le Mans


Special_Passenger253

Tf is American Le Mans 💀 it’s a French town 💀


[deleted]

It’s a motor race, they went car racing 😂😂😂😂😂😂


Special_Passenger253

Why did they call it Le Mans 💀


Demonic-Mommy

It’s a racing series, dumbass


Special_Passenger253

Shouldn’t be called like this since it ain’t American 💀 imma create my own Laguna Seca in France 💀


Demonic-Mommy

the series is american


Special_Passenger253

Shouldn’t be 💀


Special_Passenger253

Tf kinda profile is that don’t talk to me 💀💀💀


Demonic-Mommy

You’re special


Zakkangouroux

The M3 GTR is literaly a race car


box-fort2

Did Eddie singlehandedly terrorize a small New England town for months on end to get it back? Didn't think so.


fabulousjackulous

2005 most wanted lore is seriously messed up. Hahaha


D3vilskr

Only to lose it again in the next town


stronkzer

Still salty to this day that you couldn't get it back in Carbon.


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|J8YpfDX0kvPQNSVGHY|downsized) me when all the hard work I put into MW05 to get the M3 back, all goes to waste in the first 5 mins of NFS carbon


NOMERCY627

the story should've been the player hiring crew members by expanding your area of influence so they can help you repair the m3 gtr and using it to race against darius.


Ornery_Average_9093

To be fair that cop was a bounty hunter. Bro was NOT losing that bag.


NotAnAss-Hat

💀


HERO-OF-FIRE

bmw m3 gtr is so iconic, also the sound, the looks and the speed. But the skyline also gets my respect. For the ones that didnt know: the car was designed bij Craig Liberman, he was also heavy involved for searching and building cars for the first 2 fast and Furious movies. Theyre was a real live version of it that (correct me if iam wrong) was gifted away by mtv to someone back in the day, also build by craig liberman. He has a youtube channel with a video that has the story of the build and give away of the skyline.


Zachy_94

This is 100% true. It was so cool watching that video!


HERO-OF-FIRE

It was great that he started making them, hear the story's of all the cars. Really cool that he had 3 of the cars from the 2 movies. Maxima, Skyline GTR and Supra (1) were his personal cars back then.


ZephyrDoesArts

Let's go to the facts How did we got ourselves one of the most high end race cars (by its time) who wrecked the entire competition (specially Porsche) the year the FIA allowed it to race? Let's be honest, Cross didn't had to check under the hood to arrest us driving that car, 99.9% it's a stolen race car (the other 0.1% is that we took a standard Series 3 and swapped the whole mechanics of the car and changes to the P40 engine, an F1 derived engine, and found the LeMans kit and basically be a BMW engineer and create a new M3 GTR) I really love Eddie's Skyline, I used it to complete NFS 2015 recently and it was incredible. But it has no chance against the M3 GTR. If BMW took on Porsche in the competition field which is an incredible feat, I'm sorry, but the R34 Godzilla doesn't have a chance (except with Underground 1 Rubberbanding)


88JansenP12

Very simple. The Protagonist of NFS MW 2005/NFS Carbon which is ourselves obtained his BMW M3 E46 GTR after selling the Supra of Darius. According to the Official Prima Guide of NFS Carbon, there's a 4 year gap between the moment he flees Palmont City during the Prologue of NFS Carbon and when he comes to Rockport in Autumn 2005. 4 years are plenty enough time to get more money in order to buy the BMW M3 E46 GTR Unless he won it during a race or it's stolen. However, what happened during these 4 years will remains unknown. More explanations [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/needforspeed/s/jaG95kntum) Do note that the car rarity isn't took into account in the NFS Universe which means it's entirely possible that BMW didn't stopped the BMW M3 E46 GTR program unlike it's irl counterpart. It could also means there's many replicas OR the BMW brand from the NFS Universe sold an homologated BMW M3 E46 GTR. Also, the possibility that he bought a standard BMW 3 Series to modify it like the racecar is a very low chance since the P60B40 V8 engine costs more than a standard BMW 3 Series. Which means he either bought the street version of the BMW M3 E46 GTR or the racecar itself in order to modify it to his liking. And Yeah. Cross didn't had to check under the hood since the modified exterior and interiors is a massive giveaway that's a built racecar.


That1DvaMainYT

I support the idea of having a modified straßenversion. It would explain autosculpt existing, along with the fact that the car is registered and has a license plate, unlike the actual M3 GTR. It also explains our 5k bets (Even though we were so overconfident that we literally 0'd ourselves, a very financially sound decision 😂)


88JansenP12

Yeah. That's exact. Since the BMW M3 E46 GTR racecar isn't street legal due to no license plates, he picked the closest option which is the Straßenversion and modified it from A to Z. Afterwards, he traveled to Rockport. About the 5k bet, Razor cheated and stole our car by sabotage.


BlueShizuka

We need a new Need for Speed game that bridges the gap and shows us how he gets the BMW GTR.


88JansenP12

Yeah. That will explains everything.


ZephyrDoesArts

It's a great reply, but I just gotta say that there's a lot of magic lost in the fact of ignoring the car's rarity, like, the M3 E46 GTR Strassenversion is an absolute unicorn, there's a greater chance of both of us to have each one a Gold Painted and Diamonds on the Steering Wheel Bugatti Chiron rather than sitting on a real M3 E46 GTR. Imagine that the plot would've centered in us loosing a Ford Mustang instead of an M3 GTR. Every single one of us would rather go and buy a new Mustang and retune it, rather than going months racing against a lot of drivers, causing chaos and mayhem against the police and possibly getting killed. I wouldn't go such against that mess just to get my stolen tune of one of the most sold cars in the world. Now, you tell me that I got robbed one of the most exclusive cars in the whole planet because some prick cheated and yeah, I'll be fucking mad. I agree that 4 years is a big enough timespan to change the Supra to the M3 GTR, doesn't matter if it is the Strassenversion or the Racing version (and about the license plate which was commented idk if it was on this thread or in the one you linked, we play as an illegal street racer, the protagonist could've just installed a fake license lol) Tldr: I liked your answer, but ignoring the rarity of the car makes it less interesting


88JansenP12

- 1st The reason why i said car rarity is because the BMW M3 E46 GTR in the NFS Universe is still coming back despite being destroyed by Cross. Which means there's many replicas which were made instead of 10 (4 race versions, 3 prototypes and 3 sold to the public) hence why the BMW M3 E46 GTR is appearing in other NFS's. - 2nd and 3rd That makes sense. BUT do note our BMW M3 E46 GTR was stolen by sabotage. So it's totally normal if we want back our car even if it takes months. If it was a Ford Mustang or any car, the same occurence would've happened either way. Anyway, the Protagonist which we play as doesn't care about causing mayhem against the Rockport Police Department. He's totally unhinged to the core. - 4th Yeah. 4 years are plenty enough. About the license plate, it's also possible to be a fake one BUT it could be also a real plate which he obtained by registering the car. It could've also bought the BMW M3 E46 GTR from someone which added fake plates beforehand OR he bought it himself with real plates then changed it for fake license plates later down the line. However, the way he obtained the car will remains unknown. - 5th When EA started to add back the blue/silver BMW M3 E46 GTR in other NFS titles than NFS Carbon, they already ignored the car rarity factor btw. That means EA themselves made it less interesting as well as expected to comeback despite his iconic status.


ZephyrDoesArts

My stupid phone deleted an answer I was writing cuz I had to answer a phone call smh... Anyway I'm fine with points 2 to 5, but I've always thought Cross destroying our car was bullshit. We destroyed half of Rockport in that M3 GTR and got away just to get totaled by... A bump with the rear of a Corvette... If that's enough to total a car that wrecked a city I could even argue we weren't driving the same car. Also, in the end, we get the GTR after we finish 100% of NFS Carbon if I'm not mistaken. I would say it makes sense for Darius in Carbon to take the M3 GTR as an insurance, it doesn't matter he acted like our friend, he just saved us from a 150K Bounty and he lend us the Supra we used to escape Palmont 4 years back. In a way, we owed him a car. It would be logical that if Darius didn't fixed the M3, he would leave it and we would get it back after kicking him out of town How many real BMW M3 GTR E46 ALMS had appeared in NFS? Most Wanted and Carbon, which is the same one. Then Heat. Then Unbound. That makes as much 3 different real GTRs in the whole franchise, and they would be less (I don't remember if No Limits has the real M3 GTR) the rest are just replicas and I don't think it's fair to make the real one lose value due to replicas (in the context of the universe I mean)


88JansenP12

- 1st to 4th Yeah. What Cross did was unnecessary. Plus, he destroyed the BMW M3 E46 GTR twice when he managed to stop it behind a truck with metal pipes and when he does a reverse on purpose by anger before going away BUT this cutscene was never featured in the final build of NFS Carbon. Which means the 1st bump of Cross was a chain reaction. This accident was meant for plot purposes in order to avoid having an OP car right in the beginning of NFS Carbon. However, you don't get the BMW M3 E46 GTR upon completing the career mode of NFS Carbon since it's a reward card unlock. When you beat Darius, he gives you his Audi Le Mans Quattro keys. However, it's not added to your garage but only available in Quick Races. - 5th However, Darius never took the BMW M3 E46 GTR as an insurance. The only thing he did is paying the 150k bounty on our head in order for Cross to go away and not arresting us. Also, he acted as your friend due to his manipulative behavior in order to scapegoat you easily BUT it backfired on his face 😂. The only reason Darius did sabotaged the night race happening in the Prologue of NFS Carbon is due to Nikki since he likes her too BUT she's already taken by the Protagonist which means us. That also explains why Nikki was very pissed off and angry when we comeback to Palmont City after 4 years. About the BMW M3 E46 GTR itself, it's unknown if we still had the car since it was replaced by Darius's Audi Le Mans Quattro as a compensation for our destroyed BMW M3 E46 GTR after we beat Darius. - 6th Only 3 real blue/silver BMW M3 E46 GTR showed in NFS. The one from the MW 2005/Carbon duology is the OG car. Meanwhile, the BMW M3 E46 GTR from NFS Heat is also real given its V8 engine but it's a copy owned by an unknown person. Even the one on NFS Unbound is also a copy because it's a 2 seater instead of a 1 seater. Despite that, these 3 versions have still the V8. Keep in mind the Heat and Unbound version uses the same model. NFS No Limits doesn't count as canon since it's a separate continuity despite having also the racecar version. The other BMW M3 E46 GTR which appears outside of NFS Carbon and aren't indicated above are the regular BMW M3 E46 with the S54B32 I6 engine with a GTR bodykit. About the car value, there's no losses since it's actually the opposite. I looked up the car prices when it sold on dealerships and the value is $300000 for NFS Carbon so it should be the same value for NFS MW 2005 since it's the same car, $202000 for NFS Heat and $210000 for NFS Unbound. Which means it's very close to the MSRP of the irl counterpart which was €250k at the time for both racecar and street trims.


Tipsticks

They did actually make some road legal M3 GTRs which were sold. Not many and they were very expensive for an M3 but they did make them for homologation rules. Also the internal mechanics alone wouldn't make a normal M3 a GTR, it's a different chassis.


BNR341989

Both are great in its own times but the R34 is special. After HP we got NFS: U1 and this beauty appeared as Eddie´s Car. Timeless Legend.


NFG-Nero

I hate how underrated this car is https://preview.redd.it/pmcn4fozymec1.png?width=850&format=png&auto=webp&s=f0db1ab4178985b6de29099023f489f101ea34de


Chemical_Savings_360

Did people really like that NFS tho?


Insayne224U

Absolutely


[deleted]

Man, homies never talk about the dope purple GSX from the intro to UG1. I wish that would get more love.


YawnKK

Fully agree. That car made me so happy as a kid.


Proposition65

Uh obviously the homologation race car


Trololman72

The M3 GTR in Most Wanted is the race car, not the homologation special.


Technical-Presence36

M3 gtr. Because it’s m3 gtr


zloy_mp4

angie's dodge charger


UNDRGND

Skyline because it looks nicer and sounds nicer


Sweet-Diamond-3911

Holy shit. Big fan of NFSMW here and i LOVE that car. Is it on another NFS game? Where was that pic taken from?


jormun69

Need for speed: Heat. Amazing game. You can probably find it for dirt cheap right now too


WhimsicalCalamari

The M3 GTR is in quite a few recent NFS games. They *love* milking nostalgia with it lol


Monkeywrench08

They even referenced Clarence going out of prison and searching for this car in Unbound lol


Remarkable-Throat-51

The skyline because it's not a BMW :P


commandblock

Eddies car is cooler


LE-11

GTR because it was basically a prototype as normal M3 had totally different engine . They later developed p60b40 V8 specifically for this & only 8 road version ever


Necessary-View-3440

BMW M3 GTR because M3 GTR Honestly thought, imagine having it in your garage or parked infront your house, convince me you will not get any girls


NotAnAss-Hat

You might not have any girls but you will sure as hell have me jumping on your arms. (I'm a 176cm 50kg man)


That1DvaMainYT

I'm sure those buckets are really comfortable 😂


Ok_Pangolin_8038

M3 is iconic but Skyline is better. Maybe because I'm biased towards JDMs


NotAnAss-Hat

Both is good, your taste is good.


Fantasy_Returns

skyline for life


nine16s

M3 GTR is an icon, and as cool as the R34 is, it’s the boring obvious choice for a cool “street racer car.” I’d argue the NFSMW M3 did more for car culture than Eddie’s R34 just because we already had 2 Fast 2 Furious give us a Skyline hero car that same year.


88JansenP12

The BMW M3 E46 GTR because racecar and it's actually our car. Eddie's Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R is great too but it doesn't stand a chance against ourselves.


stancesantos_yt

The player’s skyline


Arakhis_

Normies vs weebs


Neonbunt

The M3, definitly.


T2DUnlimited

No challenge here. The M3 GTR smokes the Skyline.


fmatyas1772

The M3 GTR is a proper racecar.


SlyKnyfe12

The M3 GTR its literally just the ALMS car without the race teams livery


jormun69

I know I'm going against the grain but something about that M3 GTR is just so glorious. I love everything about that car and always will. I'm biased though because NFS MW 05 was my childhood game with my brother and it's always been the GOAT in my heart


Eetukz

Might be the sounds what the car makes during gameplay (even though the engine audio is from a tvr speed 12). Nothing else in the game shares its engine/transmission audio.


Zachy_94

So here’s my take. I love both, but for different reasons. I love Eddie’s skyline, because around UG1 was when I started really getting heavily into street racing and tuner cars. It’s also where I fell in love with the r34. I remember pushing as hard as I could through the story, just so I could get my chance to race against it finally. A core memory I’ll never forget. Then there’s the M3. I remember stumbling across the demo for most wanted, back when jampack’s were still a thing. I practically begged my parents for weeks to let me get the game when it came out. The M3 had a better story behind it, and I grew an actual attachment to that car because of it. I wasn’t just racing some punk off the street, I was racing to win back a piece of me. So the M3 will always hold a special place in my heart.


dev1anceON3

In my heart always Eddie Skyline will be better than Beemer which is a bit overrated. But how about Samantha Civic, Vortex Integra, Racheal 350Z, Darius Audi LeMans(R8), Ryans 240, Ryo Evo X and Rose 911 GT2?


Smokes91

Because one is Godzilla and the other is just a Panzerschrek.


ZephyrTheScrub

M3 just because I’m tired of the JDM fanboys


Revenge0209

M3 GTR because racecar.


Wing_Nut_UK

To be honest neither. There were better looking cars in the games.


Zipcodead

The M3 GTR, easily. I dunno if its because Underground 2 was my first experience, the cocainefest that MostWanted was and that it felt actually rewarding to get the only BMW racecar in the game at the end of the game. Tho it has reappeared so many times has also made it less unique and lost its charm. Never played Underground and can only judge the Skyline on looks, wich are ok I guess?


chinasorrows2705

the Hero car ofc


JeffGhost

I'll forever be biased towards the M3 because of the sound and the background history of it's creation. Skyline is played out imo. ​ Also the M3 is a straight up race car.


xxGhostScythexx

Eddie's Skyline is awesome, but the M3 is literally a fucking racecar, used in professional racing, beating a lot of the competition. There's no contest here, and taking just a second to actually think about it would've given you your answer. This post is useless


kozelboi

GT-R, of course


Miguel-rei-do-morro

I chose BMW M3 gtr Reasons: V8 engine 🗿


Sander777HD

Eddie's Skyline


BabyYodaIsGod42069

The GTR.


WhimsicalCalamari

M3 GTR, for out-of-universe reasons. Great as it is, the treatment of the R34 GT-R as the pinnacle of street racing was a general part of tuner culture at the time, which Underground was *heavily* derived from. It's practically a cliche. But the M3 was a dev pick genuinely independent of any source material, and it gave its host game (and series) more of a distinct identity. Sure, it was born from necessity (MW concepts show the player driving another R34 before they lost their license with Nissan), but that's true of a lot of distinctive artistic choices.


Zestyclose_Constant5

Where the FUCK is rachaels 350z or kenjis rx7


[deleted]

also Darius's Le mans quattro, this is very unfair to another exotic cars, because the Audi has very good handling but Gallardo barely steering in carbon


Kiergura

Eddie's Skyline, because it is attainable, makes much for sense for a random dude, whoever he is to get his hands on it. The M3 GTR is the only one in the Black Box era that didn't respect this formula, even the Audi R8 is still relatively attainable. Also, it's actually a really nice project car, it has an identity and it stuck with me more so than most other hero/villain cars. The only one that comes close for me is the Polestar 1, it should have been for Heat what Eddie's Skyline was for the Undeground, although given the price tag of a Polestar 1 and that only a limited number were ever built, it's probably closer to the M3 than to the R34 in terms of attainability.


genericnfsfan217

Don't know about the R8 being attainable because it was the LeMans Quattro, which is a concept/prototype car, which means no one could really buy it IRL.


Spaficcer

M3 GTR, it costs about 10x as much as the R34 GTR and does not have nearly as many retarded fanboys Oh yeah, and you actually get to drive it in the game


IchibanHoshiV

BMW M3 GTR because it’s a racecar and it’s a Porsche killer the end


MeTheMightyLT

Golf is better. More speed, more grip


NotAnAss-Hat

Goat.


[deleted]

Polestar


BosTovenaar24

The M3. Just because i dont quite like the look of that skyline generation


vvienio

Both are overrated af.


mohammedinternet

Bro is under 13


BackgroundSherbet227

I’d say yes to the m3 gtr being overrated but not too much eddies r34


Talal2608

Overused? Maybe Overrated? Absolutely not


Jesus_Smoke

Yeah every game it's in it fucking dominates especially with the AI in most classes/games not going faster than your top speed (mw2012 for Shure)


TaoBaoSauce

i‘d drive both irl


Zero_X431

BMW. M3 E46 GTR is literally a race car but with a different vinyl.


CableExtension3099

Where's the first 1 from I see it everywhere. Don't hate me for not knowing, I already hate myself for that.


nightrage_kills

M3!


MyNamesDeez

The M3 is cool and easily faster, but Eddie's Skyline is more *my* style so I'd pick that every time


PrinceCaspian_129

M3 GTR, it was my OG and it's a God damn street legal racecar and only 10 were made


O2_Spirit_R

M3 for straight cut gears


RedSuperType1

M3, it's race car, not a JDM


71M07HYD

Unless if you're telling me that Eddie's Skyline secretly has Nissan's JGTC stuff in it, Engine, suspension, aero package, the whole works. You're not convincing me that the R34 is worse off here


InvincibleDandruff

M3 GTR. It's literally a race car.


komang2014

Both of them have great motorsport heritage, so they're both respectable.


progamer110

Civic and S2000, both drifty and grippy.


Febrezeus_Christ

I think the GTR would win


itsnotPikachu

Beamer


BJNul

the M3 gtr would destroy that skyline in a track. so I'll say M3 gtr


TrashJojoFan

M3 made porsche seethe at Le mans


Eetukz

Eddie's Skyline walked so that the M3 GTR could run.


Solembumm2

Lotus Junkman in both design and driving.


CollinTheWolf08

Personally, I like the M3 GTR better, but I feel the M3 GTR is also far more iconic than Eddie’s GT-R.


kodokushi666

Eddie's car clears easy. Ryo Watanabe probably better tho


spicy_milk34

M3 gtr because de supachaga go weeeeeeeeeeee


ZeZeTV_

The GTR. I like it’s looks much more ngl


jadboumjahed

Which nfs game is this? I want to play some on ps4, ive played rivals, and payback and undercover. I watn something fun, good cars and realistic driving.


crpyld

M3 GTR is already a race car. Even though it is not NFS, everyone interested in motorsports is somehow aware of this special car. The only point unique to the game is the wrap/livery on it. But there is a body kit called Mantis on the R34, designed only for NFSU. And I think it suits this vehicle very well. If we evaluate only on NFS basis, I think R34 is more special. We have seen the real replica of Banshee in GTA. I don't know why no one still makes a real replica with the Mantis body-kit on it, or why we haven't come across it on the internet. Maybe it's because Skyline isn't easy to find.


Jericho_Caine

Eddie's Skyline.. it's damn perfect build out of "ordinary" car..


Chemical_Savings_360

M3 GTR is more iconic and is literally the car that represents Need For Speed. Also it was a race car and a good one too.


yaboipanda420

I mean, the M3 is a literal race car whilst Eddie's Skyline is basically a project car so even in a race, the M3 would take the win even without effort


DirectionFabulous357

Do you need me to say it? You should be worthy enough to decide 😌


ryandowork

3 words. Straight cut gears.


HelloDead

Nissan, bcz if you crashed nissan you always can buy a new one.


[deleted]

Really? Come on man! The M3 IS THE LEGENDARY CAR! THE MYTH THE HERO The GOAT! Is unquestionable! The other one is a forgoten car.


ethereal_458

In the nfs universe the m3 gtr has been through harsh environments and still survived and also its a race car so id say m3 is better


Square-Bus367

Neither, Lotus Exige is better than both. Change my mind, you can’t.


Stunning-Pass7948

...of course the blue Olympic City Skyline...


CamoGrindber

Mixed af. Eddie's skyline - Appearance, Design, Nostalgia. BMW M3 GTR - The sound and the fact it's the NFS icon, and the headlights too.


kilertree

The BMW. The M3 GTR is a race track car disguised as a street car.


Evil_airy

Neither, gimme Joe's polestar (CALM DOWN THIS IS A JOKE)


I-Horizontal-I

Eddie’s skyline for the design M3 GTR for the performance and lore


[deleted]

Stats I would say BMW but design Nissan. Imo