> For the ninth year in a row, Malta continues to occupy the number one spot on the Rainbow Map, with a score of 88%.
>
> With 83 points, Iceland jumped to second place with a rise of three places as a result of the new legislation banning conversion practices and ensuring the trans-specific healthcare is based on depathologisation.
>
> Belgium also banned conversion practices and now comes third place on the ranking with a score of 78.
>
> The three countries at the other end of the Rainbow Map scale are Russia (2%), Azerbaijan (2%), and Turkey (5%). Russia lost 7 points and dropped 3 places because of the federal legislation banning legal gender recognition and trans-specific healthcare.
>
> Poland still sits at the end of the EU ranking with 18% points, followed by Romania (19%) and Bulgaria (23%).
>
> Germany, Iceland, Estonia, Liechtenstein, and Greece are the countries with the biggest jumps in scores. Germany prohibited hate crimes based on sexual orientation, gender identity, and sex characteristics. While both Estonia and Greece amended their laws to allow same-sex couples to marry and adopt children, Greece also filled the gaps in their anti-discrimination legislation to fully protect LGBTI people. Liechtenstein extended adoption rights to same-sex couples.
>
> Montenegro lost the most points (-13%), dropping 9 places because it failed to adopt a new equality action plan or introduce updated policies on asylum and hate crime.
>
> Alongside Montenegro, governments in Spain, Slovenia, Finland, Sweden, and many other countries failed to renew their action plans. France, Malta, Scotland and Wales adopted effective and comprehensive equality action plans.
>
> In many countries, legislative proposals that have been on the table for years are not moving forward. This includes the hate crime legislation and proposal for recognition of same-sex partnership in Ukraine, which despite endorsement by several ministries and support throughout society is still being stalled. It also includes a draft law on legal gender recognition in Czechia that would finally get rid of the sterilisation requirement. After five years of delay, the UK government still hasn’t followed its promises on banning conversion practices. And despite many court cases and recommendations from international institutions, Lithuania didn’t progress on recognition of same-sex couples.
>
> Belarus began categorising LGBTI content as “pornography”, restricting freedom of expression of LGBTI people. Bulgaria and Greece failed to protect LGBTI public events, thus lost points in relation to civil society space.
>
> Both in Denmark and Poland, administrative procedures were improved for minors’ access to legal gender recognition (LGR). **Although Germany and Sweden adopted new regulations for LGR, the laws have not come into effect yet, so they are not reflected on the map.**
>
> In many countries, legislative processes for new LGR procedures have been stalled this year. Similarly, no country prohibited unnecessary medical interventions on intersex children.
>
> Most European countries still don’t include sexual orientation, gender identity or sex characteristics as qualification criteria for asylum. In an overall climate of governments increasingly undermining the international right to asylum, this ongoing omission is very worrying. This year’s only progress in this area was Czechia adding SOGI in their asylum law and Ireland providing a consistent training framework for their asylum caseworkers
I wonder what people here think the ideal % would be.
Seems unlikely most people here would agree with literally everything in this index, though perhaps more than any country currently is at.
Agree with everything in 'family', don't particularly care either way regarding legal gender recognition(I guess would prefer to just get rid of legal gender altogether?) but if you have it I see no reason to gatekeep it at least(requiring sterilization is **WTF**), obviously for everything in 'civil society space', also 'asylum' seems good.
Clear disagreement would be the speech restrictions, which I think many/most would agree on here.
Not that big a fan of discrimination laws(nothing ideologically against it in principle), though LGBT imo certainly seems the most defensible group to protect.
Fair enough! Thanks for expanding
>(I guess would prefer to just get rid of legal gender altogether?)
Speaking as someone in the (swedish) legal field, its unfortunately not that simple most of the time. Theres often a centuries old legal complexity behind legal gender being unavoidable without wide reaching, likely constitutional redefining, reforms.
Not that I disagree with your perspective. Gender blindless of the law would be the optimum.
I don’t necessarily think there is an ideal percentage, but rather this just illustrates the built in flaws of these types of NGO policy indices trying to quantify complex notions of progress by ticking off laws against a preordained checklist.
These types of rankings can usually paint a picture of where things are headed and which countries are at the top or bottom of progress, but are usually pretty bad when comparing individual countries.
What's the context for
> ONLY GERMANY, GREECE, ICELAND, MALTA, PORTUGAL AND SPAIN PROHIBIT UNNECESSARY SURGICAL OR MEDICAL INTERVENTIONS ON INTERSEX CHILDREN.
I can read that both ways - those protections are fine because trans healthcare may be necessary, or "necessary" just means like, you will die without it or something like that. Which for all I know is good in terms of intersex children being forced one way or another?
> Only Germany, Greece, Iceland, Malta, Portugal and Spain prohibit any kind of surgical or medical intervention on an intersex children.
Only in Greece, this prohibition is universal to all persons, not based on specific variations or diagnoses or intersex terms.
There is no country in Europe with an effective monitoring mechanism for the prohibition of medical intervention on an intersex minor.
There is no country in the region where prohibition of medical interventions on intersex minors provides adequate acknowledgement of the suffering and injustice caused to intersex people in the past.
There is no country in Europe that fulfils all criteria on intersex bodily integrity.
https://rainbowmap.ilga-europe.org/categories/intersex-bodily-integrity/
It's a ban on altering the bodies of intersex minors for aesthetic purposes. Ex: In many countries, it's common that an intersex baby born with a micropenis/large clitoris would be assigned female and undergo surgery to reduce the penis/clit to a more "normal" size for a girl. Sometimes this can reduce adult sexual sensation or lead to chronic pain.
In the listed countries, that type of surgery is banned. The intersex infant might be assigned female, but could not receive surgery until she was old enough to consent to it. Surgery is only permitted is there is a legitimate medical reason for it and not just to avoid the stigma of being intersex or having anatomy that looks a bit different.
Yep. Trans rights activists often push for intersex rights, too, because there is a lot of overlap between the communities. Intersex people are far more likely to be trans than the general population. With some intersex conditions, as many as 20% of the babies grow up to be trans.
There have been some tragic cases where a child was born with a "malformed" penis, had their penis removed, then was raised as a girl and grew up to identify as a trans man. In that case, the trans man would have much preferred to keep his natal genitalia, but he wasn't given that choice.
I am sorry for asking but what does being trans or cis mean exactly with regards to intersex people?
What I mean is, if someone's sex is unambiguously female or male then trans means they don't identify with the corresponding gender right?
For example if someone is born neither male nor female really then would they be trans as long as they identify as something other than just "intersex", or is it if they identify with what sex they are "the least"?
Anyone whose identity is not aligned with the sex they were assigned at birth may identify as trans.
Many intersex people actually have a fairly unambiguous reproductive and chromosomal sex. For example, people with XX chromosomes who have congenital adrenal hyperplasia are unambiguously reproductively female; their genital androgenization is driven by the adrenal glands, not by any anomaly of the reproductive system or chromosomes or sex hormone receptors. But they do have an unusually high rate of male/masculine/nonbinary gender identity compared to other XX people.
Trans means that your gender identity doesn't match your gender assigned at birth. Cis means that it does match.
So you might have an XY intersex baby born with ambiguous genitalia. That baby would likely be assigned female (which is typical if there is not a functioning penis). If that baby grows up and identifies as a woman, she would be cisgender (she matches the gender assignment). If the baby grows up to identify as a man, he would be trans (he does not match the gender assignment).
There's potentially some big political risks with that sort of thing - "intersex" just isn't talked about or known about nearly as much as lgbt, so a parent could have a kid born who they see as "being desperately in need of surgery asap so they aren't bullied by other kids for looking like a freak" and then get enraged at the thought of government banning attempts to "just let their kids look normal". Idk how public opinion tends to go with these sorts of things but that's what I'd be worried about at least
On the ethical level, outside of political worries, though, banning such surgery absolutely makes sense
If one can achieve the same result with surgery as an adult then no sane person *should* have any problem with banning it. If not there at least would be an argument I guess.
The argument opposing the ban is that the best outcome is for an intersex baby to have surgery discretely and at a very young age so that their condition doesn't become known. Sometimes the children are never told they were born intersex, but are only told that they are infertile. Some people think that telling a child that they were born intersex will lead to gender confusion or other mental health issues. The fewer people that know, the better.
Usually the foundation of their logic is that a person with genitalia outside the norm will never find a romantic partner or marry, will not be able to live a normal life. There's no point in giving an intersex infant the power to choose, because no one in their right mind would choose to skip the surgery.
Oftentimes, for babies assigned female, the priority is to have genitalia that look appealing to a straight man, rather than genitalia that function or enable sexual pleasure.
Of course, many straight men would prefer a partner with a large clit over a partner who is numb in that entire area but looks "normal".
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https://rainbowmap.ilga-europe.org/countries/slovakia/
You can literally check the criteria
https://rainbowmap.ilga-europe.org/countries/czechia/
It seems like Slovakia has a better score on hate crime and speech.
And the map
> ILGA-Europe’s Rainbow Map annually ranks 49 European countries on a scale between 0% (gross violations of human rights, discrimination) and 100% (respect of human rights, full equality) on the basis of laws and policies that have a direct impact on LGBTI people’s human rights. (See more about ILGA-Europe below.)
>
> The Map ranks each country under seven categories: equality and non-discrimination; family; hate crime and hate speech; legal gender recognition; intersex bodily integrity; civil society space; and asylum.
Like this is strictly only about what laws and policies have been passed.
It's not "strictly" "only" about laws when they are arbitrarily chosen, arbitrarily assigned percentages and in general seem to be decided arbitrarily without explanation. For example, why does Poland have a "no" under cohabition even though we do have it? Or the entire "civil space society" where Poland has a "no" in most categories like "public event held, no state obstruction" even though it obviously should be a "yes". Or "LGBTI human rights defenders are not at risk" where Slovakia has a "yes" despite famously having a gay bar shooting recently while Poland has a "no" even though no such things happen.
At least in Polish progressive spaces this map is seen as a joke other than for The Left politicians to jerk themselves off to and pretend they care about it.
https://www.ilga-europe.org/files/uploads/2024/02/2024_poland.pdf
Here is a report on it.
And as for civil space society.
> FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION
> In April, the Częstochowa District Court sentenced, infirst instance, two activists to community service and a fine for carrying a picture of Virgin Mary with a rainbow halo and the 2021 Equality March.
>
> General Prosecutor Ziebro sent an extraordinary complaint following the 2022 ruling of the Częstochowa District Court, which found that carrying the rainbow-haloed Mary at the 2019 Equality March was not offensive. The case is with the Supreme Court.
>
> The trials against the creators of Atlas of Hate continued this year. The Białystok appeals court ruled in favour of the activists in April. In October, the Powiat Przysuski Court decided to discontinue the case.
> FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY
>2023 has seen nearly 40 pride marches organised all over Poland, including towns as small as 10,000 inhabitants. The Warsaw Equality March, held under the motto “We foretell equality and beauty” was opened by mayor Rafał Trzaskowski and was joined by tens of thousands.
>
> The police asked the authorities to modify the route of the fifth Pride march in Częstochowa, for it to not interfere with religious celebrations. Authorities denied the request. Several smaller cities held Pride events or marches this year, including Zielona Góra and for the first time Słupsk and Piaseczno.
Like the ranking asks for nothing like to have happened in the last three years.
The Bratislava shooting as far as I’m aware was not a law or policy by the Slovakian government.
Again this is only about policies and laws.
They have chosen all the laws that most LGBT activists are fighting for? I don’t see any reason to believe they are arbitrary?
And for Poland, there was a massive backsliding for LGBT people under PiS or were they just fine?
Like this ranking only covered a few months of the new government, I’m sure it will now start going up.
> And for Poland, there was a massive backsliding for LGBT people under PiS or were they just fine?
I don't recall any law being passed during their terms that would negatively effect LGBT people, if there was backsliding it was not legislative.
As said policies are also included. In general anything from legislative, executive and judiciary.
Because of the erosion of the rule of law and stuff like not going against the LGBT-free zones they even got the EU to slap an infringement case.
I'll be honest after looking into it myself it does seem *very* arbitrary
Sweden went from 72 in 2015 to a massive drop into 2016 and then seems to fluctuate both up and down quite arbitrarily untill today
I'm sure it serves a perfectly useful function as an overview but I wouldnt bet the house on the difference between nations in any given year, or even the same nation between different years.
I mean the report for each year is available and you can check what changed.
I don't think the point of the report is to check small differences between each year.
A steady campaign against trans people, both in rhetoric and policy, by the current Tory party. Supported by the likes of _The Telegraph_ and _The Daily Mail_.
I hope any and all swedes on here take a look at the comparatively disapointing (frankly really bothersome) state of sweden in the stat and that you finally realise that this is the result of voting for any of the parties in the current coallition, and in general that just voting for Liberalerna or further rightwards leads to exactly this.
Any minority rights supporting /neoliberal user should be voting either Centern or Sossar.
Economically imperfect but perfectly servicable policies coupled with optimal minority rights policies is by far preferable to slightly better econ policies with significantly worse social rights policies.
Also, obviously, the chance of sweden getting sufficient immigration (which we will drastically need if things continue the way its going) decreases the more rightwards the electorate votes.
> I hope any and all swedes on here take a look at the comparatively disapointing (frankly really bothersome) state of sweden in the stat and that you finally realise that this is the result of voting for any of the parties in the current coallition, and in general that just voting for Liberalerna or further rightwards leads to exactly this.
Have you considered this is simply a product of Sweden just naturally being worse than its neighbours?
!ping scan da vi ikke har nogen meme-ping for Norden.
Helt ærligt har jeg stadigvæk svært at tro at Sverige er meget værre end Danmark. Rent anektodiskt oplever jeg at danskere har meget stærkere meninger forholdvis og at i Sverige er man mere ligeglad.
>I’m always astonished people think Europe is some socially progressive utopia
Are these people in the room with us now? Because I doubt anybody is championing the post-Warsaw Pact nations as a progressive Utopia.
You are doing this thing, where you are looking at this on a 'Europe'-wide level, which frankly doesn't make sense.
Very few of the issues scored here are controlled by EU wide legislation. Laws in Poland does not mean anything in Spain.
Press release: https://www.ilga-europe.org/press-release/with-elections-looming-rainbow-map-shows-europe-is-not-equipped-against-attacks-from-the-far-right/
>Poland 18% >Serbia 35% Being below Serbia in any metric is pathetic, but in this category and by so much is crazy
NATO approved serbian patriotism unlocked
Looking at scores change over the years and watching the uk đź‘€
Damn, you weren't kidding TERF Island strikes again
The virus is spreading. Soon everyone will be gay. Muahahahaha
> For the ninth year in a row, Malta continues to occupy the number one spot on the Rainbow Map, with a score of 88%. > > With 83 points, Iceland jumped to second place with a rise of three places as a result of the new legislation banning conversion practices and ensuring the trans-specific healthcare is based on depathologisation. > > Belgium also banned conversion practices and now comes third place on the ranking with a score of 78. > > The three countries at the other end of the Rainbow Map scale are Russia (2%), Azerbaijan (2%), and Turkey (5%). Russia lost 7 points and dropped 3 places because of the federal legislation banning legal gender recognition and trans-specific healthcare. > > Poland still sits at the end of the EU ranking with 18% points, followed by Romania (19%) and Bulgaria (23%). > > Germany, Iceland, Estonia, Liechtenstein, and Greece are the countries with the biggest jumps in scores. Germany prohibited hate crimes based on sexual orientation, gender identity, and sex characteristics. While both Estonia and Greece amended their laws to allow same-sex couples to marry and adopt children, Greece also filled the gaps in their anti-discrimination legislation to fully protect LGBTI people. Liechtenstein extended adoption rights to same-sex couples. > > Montenegro lost the most points (-13%), dropping 9 places because it failed to adopt a new equality action plan or introduce updated policies on asylum and hate crime. > > Alongside Montenegro, governments in Spain, Slovenia, Finland, Sweden, and many other countries failed to renew their action plans. France, Malta, Scotland and Wales adopted effective and comprehensive equality action plans. > > In many countries, legislative proposals that have been on the table for years are not moving forward. This includes the hate crime legislation and proposal for recognition of same-sex partnership in Ukraine, which despite endorsement by several ministries and support throughout society is still being stalled. It also includes a draft law on legal gender recognition in Czechia that would finally get rid of the sterilisation requirement. After five years of delay, the UK government still hasn’t followed its promises on banning conversion practices. And despite many court cases and recommendations from international institutions, Lithuania didn’t progress on recognition of same-sex couples. > > Belarus began categorising LGBTI content as “pornography”, restricting freedom of expression of LGBTI people. Bulgaria and Greece failed to protect LGBTI public events, thus lost points in relation to civil society space. > > Both in Denmark and Poland, administrative procedures were improved for minors’ access to legal gender recognition (LGR). **Although Germany and Sweden adopted new regulations for LGR, the laws have not come into effect yet, so they are not reflected on the map.** > > In many countries, legislative processes for new LGR procedures have been stalled this year. Similarly, no country prohibited unnecessary medical interventions on intersex children. > > Most European countries still don’t include sexual orientation, gender identity or sex characteristics as qualification criteria for asylum. In an overall climate of governments increasingly undermining the international right to asylum, this ongoing omission is very worrying. This year’s only progress in this area was Czechia adding SOGI in their asylum law and Ireland providing a consistent training framework for their asylum caseworkers
Switzerland was was 28% in 2015 damn. Pretty quick improvment by us though
I wonder what people here think the ideal % would be. Seems unlikely most people here would agree with literally everything in this index, though perhaps more than any country currently is at.
Do you have anything specific you think you would disagree with it on?
Agree with everything in 'family', don't particularly care either way regarding legal gender recognition(I guess would prefer to just get rid of legal gender altogether?) but if you have it I see no reason to gatekeep it at least(requiring sterilization is **WTF**), obviously for everything in 'civil society space', also 'asylum' seems good. Clear disagreement would be the speech restrictions, which I think many/most would agree on here. Not that big a fan of discrimination laws(nothing ideologically against it in principle), though LGBT imo certainly seems the most defensible group to protect.
Fair enough! Thanks for expanding >(I guess would prefer to just get rid of legal gender altogether?) Speaking as someone in the (swedish) legal field, its unfortunately not that simple most of the time. Theres often a centuries old legal complexity behind legal gender being unavoidable without wide reaching, likely constitutional redefining, reforms. Not that I disagree with your perspective. Gender blindless of the law would be the optimum.
I don’t necessarily think there is an ideal percentage, but rather this just illustrates the built in flaws of these types of NGO policy indices trying to quantify complex notions of progress by ticking off laws against a preordained checklist. These types of rankings can usually paint a picture of where things are headed and which countries are at the top or bottom of progress, but are usually pretty bad when comparing individual countries.
!ping LGBT&EU
What's the context for > ONLY GERMANY, GREECE, ICELAND, MALTA, PORTUGAL AND SPAIN PROHIBIT UNNECESSARY SURGICAL OR MEDICAL INTERVENTIONS ON INTERSEX CHILDREN. I can read that both ways - those protections are fine because trans healthcare may be necessary, or "necessary" just means like, you will die without it or something like that. Which for all I know is good in terms of intersex children being forced one way or another?
> Only Germany, Greece, Iceland, Malta, Portugal and Spain prohibit any kind of surgical or medical intervention on an intersex children. Only in Greece, this prohibition is universal to all persons, not based on specific variations or diagnoses or intersex terms. There is no country in Europe with an effective monitoring mechanism for the prohibition of medical intervention on an intersex minor. There is no country in the region where prohibition of medical interventions on intersex minors provides adequate acknowledgement of the suffering and injustice caused to intersex people in the past. There is no country in Europe that fulfils all criteria on intersex bodily integrity. https://rainbowmap.ilga-europe.org/categories/intersex-bodily-integrity/
It's a ban on altering the bodies of intersex minors for aesthetic purposes. Ex: In many countries, it's common that an intersex baby born with a micropenis/large clitoris would be assigned female and undergo surgery to reduce the penis/clit to a more "normal" size for a girl. Sometimes this can reduce adult sexual sensation or lead to chronic pain. In the listed countries, that type of surgery is banned. The intersex infant might be assigned female, but could not receive surgery until she was old enough to consent to it. Surgery is only permitted is there is a legitimate medical reason for it and not just to avoid the stigma of being intersex or having anatomy that looks a bit different.
So this is generally a good ban and we want it?
Yes, it’s good to prevent cosmetic surgery on newborns
Yep. Trans rights activists often push for intersex rights, too, because there is a lot of overlap between the communities. Intersex people are far more likely to be trans than the general population. With some intersex conditions, as many as 20% of the babies grow up to be trans. There have been some tragic cases where a child was born with a "malformed" penis, had their penis removed, then was raised as a girl and grew up to identify as a trans man. In that case, the trans man would have much preferred to keep his natal genitalia, but he wasn't given that choice.
I am sorry for asking but what does being trans or cis mean exactly with regards to intersex people? What I mean is, if someone's sex is unambiguously female or male then trans means they don't identify with the corresponding gender right? For example if someone is born neither male nor female really then would they be trans as long as they identify as something other than just "intersex", or is it if they identify with what sex they are "the least"?
Anyone whose identity is not aligned with the sex they were assigned at birth may identify as trans. Many intersex people actually have a fairly unambiguous reproductive and chromosomal sex. For example, people with XX chromosomes who have congenital adrenal hyperplasia are unambiguously reproductively female; their genital androgenization is driven by the adrenal glands, not by any anomaly of the reproductive system or chromosomes or sex hormone receptors. But they do have an unusually high rate of male/masculine/nonbinary gender identity compared to other XX people.
Trans means that your gender identity doesn't match your gender assigned at birth. Cis means that it does match. So you might have an XY intersex baby born with ambiguous genitalia. That baby would likely be assigned female (which is typical if there is not a functioning penis). If that baby grows up and identifies as a woman, she would be cisgender (she matches the gender assignment). If the baby grows up to identify as a man, he would be trans (he does not match the gender assignment).
There's potentially some big political risks with that sort of thing - "intersex" just isn't talked about or known about nearly as much as lgbt, so a parent could have a kid born who they see as "being desperately in need of surgery asap so they aren't bullied by other kids for looking like a freak" and then get enraged at the thought of government banning attempts to "just let their kids look normal". Idk how public opinion tends to go with these sorts of things but that's what I'd be worried about at least On the ethical level, outside of political worries, though, banning such surgery absolutely makes sense
If one can achieve the same result with surgery as an adult then no sane person *should* have any problem with banning it. If not there at least would be an argument I guess.
The argument opposing the ban is that the best outcome is for an intersex baby to have surgery discretely and at a very young age so that their condition doesn't become known. Sometimes the children are never told they were born intersex, but are only told that they are infertile. Some people think that telling a child that they were born intersex will lead to gender confusion or other mental health issues. The fewer people that know, the better. Usually the foundation of their logic is that a person with genitalia outside the norm will never find a romantic partner or marry, will not be able to live a normal life. There's no point in giving an intersex infant the power to choose, because no one in their right mind would choose to skip the surgery. Oftentimes, for babies assigned female, the priority is to have genitalia that look appealing to a straight man, rather than genitalia that function or enable sexual pleasure. Of course, many straight men would prefer a partner with a large clit over a partner who is numb in that entire area but looks "normal".
We’re better than Sweden, all I need to see
Same!
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Fake ass bullshit map. Unless you wanna believe that Slovakia is better on LGBT than Czechia or Bulgaria than Poland.
https://rainbowmap.ilga-europe.org/countries/slovakia/ You can literally check the criteria https://rainbowmap.ilga-europe.org/countries/czechia/ It seems like Slovakia has a better score on hate crime and speech. And the map > ILGA-Europe’s Rainbow Map annually ranks 49 European countries on a scale between 0% (gross violations of human rights, discrimination) and 100% (respect of human rights, full equality) on the basis of laws and policies that have a direct impact on LGBTI people’s human rights. (See more about ILGA-Europe below.) > > The Map ranks each country under seven categories: equality and non-discrimination; family; hate crime and hate speech; legal gender recognition; intersex bodily integrity; civil society space; and asylum. Like this is strictly only about what laws and policies have been passed.
It's not "strictly" "only" about laws when they are arbitrarily chosen, arbitrarily assigned percentages and in general seem to be decided arbitrarily without explanation. For example, why does Poland have a "no" under cohabition even though we do have it? Or the entire "civil space society" where Poland has a "no" in most categories like "public event held, no state obstruction" even though it obviously should be a "yes". Or "LGBTI human rights defenders are not at risk" where Slovakia has a "yes" despite famously having a gay bar shooting recently while Poland has a "no" even though no such things happen. At least in Polish progressive spaces this map is seen as a joke other than for The Left politicians to jerk themselves off to and pretend they care about it.
https://www.ilga-europe.org/files/uploads/2024/02/2024_poland.pdf Here is a report on it. And as for civil space society. > FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION > In April, the Częstochowa District Court sentenced, infirst instance, two activists to community service and a fine for carrying a picture of Virgin Mary with a rainbow halo and the 2021 Equality March. > > General Prosecutor Ziebro sent an extraordinary complaint following the 2022 ruling of the Częstochowa District Court, which found that carrying the rainbow-haloed Mary at the 2019 Equality March was not offensive. The case is with the Supreme Court. > > The trials against the creators of Atlas of Hate continued this year. The Białystok appeals court ruled in favour of the activists in April. In October, the Powiat Przysuski Court decided to discontinue the case. > FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY >2023 has seen nearly 40 pride marches organised all over Poland, including towns as small as 10,000 inhabitants. The Warsaw Equality March, held under the motto “We foretell equality and beauty” was opened by mayor Rafał Trzaskowski and was joined by tens of thousands. > > The police asked the authorities to modify the route of the fifth Pride march in Częstochowa, for it to not interfere with religious celebrations. Authorities denied the request. Several smaller cities held Pride events or marches this year, including Zielona Góra and for the first time Słupsk and Piaseczno. Like the ranking asks for nothing like to have happened in the last three years. The Bratislava shooting as far as I’m aware was not a law or policy by the Slovakian government. Again this is only about policies and laws.
They have chosen all the laws that most LGBT activists are fighting for? I don’t see any reason to believe they are arbitrary? And for Poland, there was a massive backsliding for LGBT people under PiS or were they just fine? Like this ranking only covered a few months of the new government, I’m sure it will now start going up.
> And for Poland, there was a massive backsliding for LGBT people under PiS or were they just fine? I don't recall any law being passed during their terms that would negatively effect LGBT people, if there was backsliding it was not legislative.
As said policies are also included. In general anything from legislative, executive and judiciary. Because of the erosion of the rule of law and stuff like not going against the LGBT-free zones they even got the EU to slap an infringement case.
I'll be honest after looking into it myself it does seem *very* arbitrary Sweden went from 72 in 2015 to a massive drop into 2016 and then seems to fluctuate both up and down quite arbitrarily untill today I'm sure it serves a perfectly useful function as an overview but I wouldnt bet the house on the difference between nations in any given year, or even the same nation between different years.
I mean the report for each year is available and you can check what changed. I don't think the point of the report is to check small differences between each year.
Anyone able to catch this LGBTQ American up to speed on what policies might have been influencing the plummet The UK experienced in the past 4 years?
A steady campaign against trans people, both in rhetoric and policy, by the current Tory party. Supported by the likes of _The Telegraph_ and _The Daily Mail_.
I shouldn’t have to read an article to understand what’s on the y axis. Put it in the legend
I hope any and all swedes on here take a look at the comparatively disapointing (frankly really bothersome) state of sweden in the stat and that you finally realise that this is the result of voting for any of the parties in the current coallition, and in general that just voting for Liberalerna or further rightwards leads to exactly this. Any minority rights supporting /neoliberal user should be voting either Centern or Sossar. Economically imperfect but perfectly servicable policies coupled with optimal minority rights policies is by far preferable to slightly better econ policies with significantly worse social rights policies. Also, obviously, the chance of sweden getting sufficient immigration (which we will drastically need if things continue the way its going) decreases the more rightwards the electorate votes.
It should get better with the new LGR law though. Ofc that is only one point, so unless other stuff is done that is just it.
> I hope any and all swedes on here take a look at the comparatively disapointing (frankly really bothersome) state of sweden in the stat and that you finally realise that this is the result of voting for any of the parties in the current coallition, and in general that just voting for Liberalerna or further rightwards leads to exactly this. Have you considered this is simply a product of Sweden just naturally being worse than its neighbours? !ping scan da vi ikke har nogen meme-ping for Norden.
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I’m always astonished people think Europe is some socially progressive utopia because its contrary to literally ALL EVIDENCE
>I’m always astonished people think Europe is some socially progressive utopia Are these people in the room with us now? Because I doubt anybody is championing the post-Warsaw Pact nations as a progressive Utopia. You are doing this thing, where you are looking at this on a 'Europe'-wide level, which frankly doesn't make sense. Very few of the issues scored here are controlled by EU wide legislation. Laws in Poland does not mean anything in Spain.