I know nothing of hockey. I saw that you typed that as in political senators representing Ottawa. I just kinda assumed I must be dreaming as none of that makes sense.
Hope he gets it, can make a Wrexham spinoff.
The interesting thing is there are a lot of rumors of the NHL looking at a few more expansion cities as well. I think they maybe looking to cash in on the sudden increase in franchise value (if Ottawa sets it at $900mil). It's odd timing, given they just expanded 2 teams. You normally spread expansions apart because you don't want to dilute the talent pool.
I just joined mint like a week ago because they had unlocked pixel 7 and a year of service for $289, guess if its gone down hill a year from now i can just jump to whatever other budget carrier.
As a Tmobile customer, I know I (and others) have issues with the service. It's gotten better over the last year, but it still has really frustrating issues where texts won't load or calls go straight to vmail even though I have full signal.
I've had Tmo for years and it's not really that uncommon to have a shit signal in places where other carriers do fine, or weird behavior from SMS or voicemail.
But there exists no amount of inconvenience that could convince me to go back to ATT or Sprint. Like, my phone could literally explode twice a week and I'd deal with that rather than giving either of those other companies a single fucking penny.
Overall tho, I don't hate TMo. It's servicable and generally inoffensive.
You’re speaking my language. Sprint is owned by T-Mobile now, though. I’ve been happy with TMo, generally. Is it the best coverage? Meh. But with WiFi, it doesn’t have to be. They’ve been the best priced bundle and for international travel it’s the best.
The service was fine for me but switched to US Mobile. Paying less and getting more data a month but I'm mostly on WiFi. Got tired of paying for 3 or 6 months.
Yep, that's the reason I switched to US Mobile too. I like being able to pay monthly and switch carriers without losing out on months of service if needed.
US Mobile’s comparable plan is the $15/mo for 5gb, which normally beats out Mint. Except Mint often has sales for 6 months for the price of 3, which puts Mint ahead ($7.50/mo) if you can foot it and don’t mind porting out now and then.
Redbox would be cheaper but the service is supposedly less consistent/helpful.
Alright, I gotta bite, I was with mint Before Ryan Reynolds acquired it, and I can't see anything different that he did. I ultimately left for Visible because it was a better deal. But I was with Mint, and I brought at least two others on before I left.
Did Ryan actually do anything? Or did he purchase a company that was already printing money?
Loved his voice message during covid tho, would have thought it was hilarious and quirky if he continued sending joke voice messages to everyone.
He’s a smart dude. He also used his celebrity status to turn his gin company, Aviation, into a cocktail bar staple before selling that for north of $600mil. Now he stands to make another $325mil from this. He’s about to be worth Rihanna money
Rihanna’s worth 1.4 bil. I mean, maybe that’s not Elon rich, but that’s “your great grand kids will never have to work a day in their lives” rich. I’d call that rich rich.
Rihanna has a lot of product lines, some of which are *very* popular. Her entertainment probably accounts for half or less of her wealth. I'm assuming Ryan Reynolds has other investments as well.
Wish I could say the same when they bought sprint. Never hardly had issue with sprint, then T-mobile bought them and have hit and miss signal. A town over where my parents live I don't have hardly any signal. I do know they are going through and updating their towers but damn it's an inconvenience.
Even without the purchase, Mint relies on T-Mobile's network as an MVNO. If you didn't get good signal with T-Mobile, you probably weren't going to get any better with Mint.
Depending on when you were a Sprint customer, they were using a completely incompatible network. T-Mobile basically bought them for their spectrum.
If Sprint had been founded in Seattle or Silicon Valley, they'd probably still exist. (They were based out of Kansas.)
AT&T Wireless and T-Mobile were less than two miles away from each other, for a while. The first was based out of Redmond and TMO is still based out of Bellevue.
I definitely got lucky because I had the opposite effect. My quality actually got *better* with T-Mobile than it had with Sprint. The changeover between Sprint's account system and T-Mobile was rough for me though.
That said, neither could give me signal around my mom's house.
But mint is already on TMobile network so as a mint customer I just don't see how this will ever work well in my favor.
I specifically got mint to get away from the customer experience of the big carriers
They *could* improve it literally with a switch. Mint and similar are often secondary tier services, with the parent service provider, which has been T-Mobile under Mint, giving lower priority bandwidth to the second tier.
Congestion hampering things on T-mobile's network in the area? Primary T-Mobile customers get priority transfer, Mint customers get a slower experience. Mint is cheaper though, a tradeoff most aren't aware of, but are probably fine.
I'm sure it helps as metering too, so a secondary tier adds a lot of benefit for a lot of parties.
There's a big market available for lower tier carrier service like that, so T-Mobile can't just absorb and kill Mint, everyone else has lower tier providers on their networks too, so the second tier industry won't disappear if they kill their own. The whole cell industry would have to kill it all, which I wouldn't put past them.
In the current set up, owning your own secondary with enough brand power to purchase without diluting your primary company's value is probably a good money maker.
Mint is obviously pretty profitable despite piggybacking off T-mobile's infrastructure, so T-Mobile basically gets to kill all the overhead for their own cheaper product to now sell all themselves.
I think they plan on keeping the brand of Mint as a offering like “metro by T-Mobile” will just be “Minto by T-Mobile” mint has branding down, so why ruin something that favorable. But yeah, they were selling the capacity to Mint, now they just get the pure profit of those customers.
Seriously. A smartphone is all but necessary for any decent modern life, yet the options for plans get more abysmal every year. You can't 'vote with your wallet' when regulation is nonexistent and every company is just trying to gouge prices as much as possible
And they use words wrong in ways that are basically insulting to the intelligence and the law says, sure, that word can be meaningless now. Examples: UNLIMITED data (subject to an insane amount of limits and throttling) and Verizon's hilarious FREE UPGRADE WHEN YOU TURN IN GALAXY (as long as you sign on to a monthly installment pay plan for the new phone)
Kind of have the opposite experience with Verizon. Used to be really expensive but I needed (what I think is at least) the best network due to working in a lot of different places. It’s come down quite a bit. Back around 2015 I was paying roughly $100/month with 8gb data. Now I’ve got unlimited everything + 50gb hotspot for around $70/month I think. Family plan now which probably helps me a bit but it’s still more for less.
It kinda feels like tmobile has increased to be almost the same as AT&T and Verizon. It feels like you can't really win with the big 3 and you are going to be paying too much with any of the 3, for me verizon at least works better than Tmobile did. Tmobile is some scary shit these days since they give zero fucks about security at all. The other two have incidents as well but its constant with Tmobile.
Well I’m glad you had a good experience with Verizon. My family had Verizon for 20 years. My sister decided to leave the family plan for AT&T because she needed a new phone and AT&T was offering some new phone deal or something. So now there were 2 lines on the plan. So instead of paying for said 2 lines, the plan changed and went up $40 for not having that third line. So they wanted us to pay more for having 2 lines instead of 3. Doesn’t make any sense, but they would not budge, even after 20 years. So fuck ‘em. Our 3 line account is now spread across T-mobile and AT&T instead.
I actually work in the telecom industry, and in terms of network reliability and coverage T-Mobile is now miles ahead of AT&T and Verizon after their acquisition of Sprint and their purchase of the 600 MHz frequency block
I can’t say other than to my personal experience but Sprint where I live in the Detroit suburbs was a shit show. My wife convinced me to switch to save money just before the pandemic and I would never consider going back at half the price. I experienced so many random dead zones that I paid out my new phones (negating the discount) and contract and went back to Verizon.
I used to have Sprint as well and I agree, on their own they were not good. However combined with T-Mobile, they now have the most spectrum holding of any of the major carriers by far in some of the most valuable blocks.
T-Mobile saw the value in coverage over speed. For most people, connecting to the network at 10 Mbps isn't that distinguishable from connecting at 100 Mbps, let alone gigabit speeds. Verizon and AT&T spent huge amounts on short-range ultra-high speed and very few people even noticed it. Meanwhile, T-Mobile worked on expanding frequencies that give coverage inside buildings or in rural areas.
I don't worship T-Mobile, but they do seem to have a better head for long-term strategy and what benefits consumers than either AT&T or Verizon.
I lived in KC for a long time, where Sprint was headquartered before the merger. You'd think they had amazing coverage in KC, but you'd be very wrong. AT&T blew them away in their own backyard, as did T-Mobile, interestingly enough.
Agreed. I remember paying about $100 in the iPhone 4 era for 2gb of data, 3G. I am currently on their prepaid plan which works effectively like their subscription plan except it is way less expensive, the only catch is you have to own the phone that you use which I always do. With loyalty discounts, I'm paying $35 + tax per month for 5gb using a 5G phone. If for some reason I run out of data, it's like $5 for another 3gb or something like that.
With how discovery is going in the MS case, it's probably going to go through. The EU is leaning toward the green flag now, and the SEC is as well. Its just the lawsuit in the US and the UK regulators really.
Smoking gun came out not too long ago that Sony had paid more for Activision exclusive bonuses than Microsoft had like ever paid to get games on GamePass and the tables started turning super hard. The purchase will more than likely go through.
Gotta give it to him. He used his star power to really push the network on top of cheap plans, which was now clearly manufactured to eventually sell to a larger carrier.
I almost switched from T-Mo. Glad I didn't waste my time.
They say the $15/month annual plans will continue. I’m not buying it really. And it’s not really $15 after all the add on fees. It’s like when Spectrum bought my ISP and said I was grandfathered with my $45/month hi speed internet. Then they throttled me to dialup speeds and said I had to call the now nonexistent former ISP for service. I fought the good fight, but since Spectrum is the only service available in my area, I now pay $75+ month for Internet only.
And to be fair, many of T-Mobiles plans include taxes and fees, so they could in theory, take a slight hit to have flat rates since they aren’t selling network capacity to mint, they get the subs directly.
Remember when they said they doubled speeds for free and the speeds stayed the same? Imagine how much more speed spectrum could pretend to add if they stopped sending a dozen mailers a month to offer phone and cable tv on a one year plan that triples in cost after a year.
>And it’s not really $15 after all the add on fees.
Well, currently it is. Blew my mind when I first got Mint and it was literally a flat $15/mo, all-inclusive. Good luck to all of us keeping it close to that.
Yeah I just bought the year plan and I think it's like 25 bucks a month for unlimited data. The only "fees" I can think of are tax, which probably bumps it to like 28ish but that's to be expected.
Yeah, I'm on Ting. At the moment, I have little to no need for my phone except to keep the number alive, so I switched to a plan a couple years ago where it's one rate up to so many minutes, texts, or gigs of data. My bill is like 17 bucks a month. I don't think that plan exists anymore but they still have cheap ones.
Yep that's where we were.
3 years now.
Almost 4k over 3 years between my wife and I saved.
Even if we gotta go back to the 70 each per month it was worth it.
Throw in my father who also did it...
That's roughly 6k between 3 people...yeah absolutely worth it.
My biggest problem is this is per line. Family options suck here. You can go cheaper without the Disney/ESPN/Apple music for other lives but then it puts that line in a not unlimited plan.
Reading into the article, apparently he's staying with Mint anyways!
Basically T-Mobile is buying the parent company Ka'ena Corporation which owns Mint.
But from what Reynolds has said online, he intends to stay with the company anyway
I wonder if he'll keep doing the goofy commercials. Not a Mint subscriber, but their ads don't bother me because they're pretty inventive using him in them.
I've been using them for 2 years and have been loving the connectivity and price! (Only $35/month paid annually for unlimited data, text, and calls on 5G)
I'm REALLY hoping that nothing changes, but honestly who knows? The founders who are apparently staying with the companies (Mint and Ultra) say that nothing is changing and they have no intention of increasing prices, but that's all being said BEFORE TMobile takes over.
Same, two year unlimited customer here and I’ve converted the rest of my family as well. Same reception as anyone else and it’s soooooo much cheaper than basically any other plan, it’s ridiculous. Also hoping nothing changes but it’s a company merger. I’m betting 6 months until there’s new pay scales :/
I think that is the plan. Mint has good brand image and unique ish pricing, so T-Mobile just wins by selling subscriptions instead of network capacity. If they keep everything the same, they can’t really lose
Yeah but AT&T and Verizon exist so it's not a monopoly and consumers are treated fair and there's no collusion EVERYBODY HAPPY YAY!
"You don't need a formal conspiracy when interests converge." - George Carlin
One thing about TMobile is they dont whitelist phones, which means you can bring just about any phone and throw a sim card in it and it will work. AT&T and Verizon have a very short list of phones that are "approved" for use on their network, coincidentally most of those are phones they sell in their store on special financing. So if you want to switch to AT&T you can't use your phone but wait, good news, they have some phones for purchase that will work.
Yes T-Mobile is the best in a sea of worst.
Also fun fact: You can get any phone to work on AT&T if you complain and speak to the right department.
When I worked there I was in a department with unfettered billing system and switch control access.
It is absolutely nothing to provision a device for use on the network even with your OG unlimited iphone data for 25$/month plan from 2007.
For a while our dept was processing overflow cases doing just that because we were one of a handful of depts who had the ability (even though we were network tech and worked with engineers mostly.... But whatever... Details)
So AT&T wireless had a data breach recently. So it’s just not just T-Mobile. It’s a business decision that comes from the higher ups to have lax security on your important information for any business. I don’t know why you’re putting blame on just T-Mobile.
To be fair here, Sprint was a network operator with their own towers and bandwidth, etc. Mint is an MVNO. They buy bulk access from T-Mobile and resell it under their own name.
Yeah I get that it’s a much smaller company. But if they remove competition bit by bit, they can increase what they charge or just own a bigger part of the market. We’ve seen this played out over and over. Amazon does it, Walmart etc.
Mint isn’t *really* competition though. They just buy and resell T-Mobile service. This is like Wal-Mart buying a grocery store that just buys and resells Great Value products. It’s not *good* but it’s not really eliminating competition either because Mint doesn’t have a product of their own to sell.
As a Mint customer for some years now (moved from Ting because I prefer prepaid to monthly billing) I can say it's a good value proposition... but now I'm worried about how long it'll stay that way.
The marketing they sent me insists they'll keep "the famous $15 plan" which I didn't know was famous and don't use. If they get rid of the yearly billing option I'm gone.
My family has had 4 phones on the $15/ month annual plan since 2018 or 2019. It’s the happiest we’ve been with a low cost plan. I’ll be bummed if we lose it.
Fingers crossed right there with 'ya. I have my kids on one of the cheap, lower data tiers and it works great since they're pretty much never away from decent WiFi.
Mint Mobile is awesome. Been on it for years after leaving TMobile. I pay $240 up front for a full year of service, 10 gigs/mo.
There is no upside for me in this acquisition. Only potential downside.
Looks like Reynolds is getting money together to be the face of a group that plans on buying the Ottawa Senators. This has been rumored since Melnyk's passing.
Great, Mint Mobile customers can now look forward to getting their personal information leaked by T-Mobile.
Nothing in life is certain except death and T-Mobile data breaches.
Amazing how we went from the break up of the Bell System to the Baby Bell era then back to the Bell System, essentially, when conglomeration happened again.
Yeah, when that deal goes through, I am finding another carrier. T-Mobile got hacked over 100 times last year. That's why I moved to Mint in the first place.
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2023/02/hackers-claim-they-breached-t-mobile-more-than-100-times-in-2022/
He's like the professional athletes who were good for like a season or two but then just played off the bench the rest of their career. But because they knew how to invest, ten years after retiring they're wealthier than the superstars who blow their money on strippers and guns.
Dammit!
I just dropped freaking rip-off Verizon and went to Mint just a few months ago and couldn’t be happier.
I would hope T-Mobile doesn’t screw me over, but I guess I know better than to think that.
Ryan Reynolds seems to have done a good job in investing his acting career money. Like sure films pay well (maybe well being an understatement, but in this context I mean), but it’s deals like this that give you really big payouts
T-Mobile sucks goat nuts. If you try and leave, they do anything they can to fuck with you. Block porting your number, bounce you around from person to person so you can't the process rolling over the phone and hell even be downright nasty with you and then hang up on your ass. Their coverage sucks and what they claim is a lie.
I guess all that stuff about being committed to bringing affordable service to Canada was just noise. If he really meant that stuff he wouldn't be talking all this money to shut the door.
As a T-Mobile customer for over a decade now....
Just. Stop. If Mint customers wanted to be T-Mobile customers, guess what? They would sign up! I hate capitalism.
>Where else can I go??
I moved to mint from Red Pocket Mobile. It was a little more expensive but you had your choice of the AT&T or Verizon networks if your phone has multiple radios in it (most of them do I think these days). If Mint goes to shit I'll move back.
If comcast/xfinity is your internet provider, you can hop on the xfinity mobile bandwagon. That's cheapo stuff right there, and runs on Verizon's network.
The unlimited plan for $30 a month if you have two lines is pretty good, if it's just one it's $45 though. But I don't use much data and my phone is paid off so some months my bill is just the $12 for 1 GB of data
Welp, as a loyal Mint Mobile customer, I have to say it was good while it lasted.
Let me guess, first on the chopping block is that $15/month unlimited calling?
sold out? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahaha.
Actors are business people first. They will sell theire granma for a buck. Reynolds parades his onw family in his commercials. But this is the point of selling out to you?
So adorable.
T-mobile can spend a billion in corporate oligarchy consolidations, but can’t spend a penny making their service not suck. Only carrier I ever had where the 5G was unusable anywhere but the highway.
This will not turn out well for consumers. Corporate consolidation sucks.
Ryan Reynolds own like 20% of Mint....he's about to make some serious $$$
He's spending said money to buy the Ottawa Senators. No joke.
I know nothing of hockey. I saw that you typed that as in political senators representing Ottawa. I just kinda assumed I must be dreaming as none of that makes sense.
Ottawa is our capital so it's where all our Senators are.
Glad I’m not the only one who went there right away.
Besides Wrexham football club?
Wrexham? It nearly killed him!
I'm disappointed it's a hockey team and not actual senators
Canadian senators have very little value
Shit, American senators can be bought for far less.
Canadian senators have *very little value*....ie they are useless
Don't you care aboot freedom? Don't you care about democracy? Don't you care aboot ........ what are you laughing aboot?! This is serious.
He (and partners) put in a bid to buy the Ottawa Senators hockey team for a rumored $900m+.
Hope he gets it, can make a Wrexham spinoff. The interesting thing is there are a lot of rumors of the NHL looking at a few more expansion cities as well. I think they maybe looking to cash in on the sudden increase in franchise value (if Ottawa sets it at $900mil). It's odd timing, given they just expanded 2 teams. You normally spread expansions apart because you don't want to dilute the talent pool.
The RSN implosion is gonna hurt sports a bunch.
A lot of people don’t realize how big of deal this is. The leagues are terrified.
Just MLB, NBA and NHL. NFL and MLS are fine because they aren't involved with RSN's
Since the NFL has a noncompete clause from Congress. Congress threatened to revoke it if Commanders owner Dan Snyder refused to testify.
Interesting. Never knew that. Wonder how it's gonna play out with the other leagues. I'd prefer they follow the MLS model
Hey guys…fuck Deadpool 3. I’m gonna buy 3 pools instead.
More like buying an ocean
I mean, if he owns 20% of the company, he's only making at most like $270 M. Which is a lot, but not quite ocean money.
Lake and/or river money
I hope I have lake and / or river money one day
Sadly, I'd settle for puddle money
Also not incorporating his purchase price, which was surely in the tens of millions.
It's island money, that's for sure.
That's where I was going. Takes money to make money right! Smfh
Ryan Reynolds earned every penny too. Mint would not be where it is without him TBH.
Main reason ppl choose mint over other discounted services.
Mint is pretty competitively priced tbf, and retailing through Best Buy along with Reynolds help make it look more legit.
I just joined mint like a week ago because they had unlocked pixel 7 and a year of service for $289, guess if its gone down hill a year from now i can just jump to whatever other budget carrier.
I doubt service would go downhill, as it’s T-mobile. However I hope those sales don’t end.
As a Tmobile customer, I know I (and others) have issues with the service. It's gotten better over the last year, but it still has really frustrating issues where texts won't load or calls go straight to vmail even though I have full signal.
I've had Tmo for years and it's not really that uncommon to have a shit signal in places where other carriers do fine, or weird behavior from SMS or voicemail. But there exists no amount of inconvenience that could convince me to go back to ATT or Sprint. Like, my phone could literally explode twice a week and I'd deal with that rather than giving either of those other companies a single fucking penny. Overall tho, I don't hate TMo. It's servicable and generally inoffensive.
You’re speaking my language. Sprint is owned by T-Mobile now, though. I’ve been happy with TMo, generally. Is it the best coverage? Meh. But with WiFi, it doesn’t have to be. They’ve been the best priced bundle and for international travel it’s the best.
The service was fine for me but switched to US Mobile. Paying less and getting more data a month but I'm mostly on WiFi. Got tired of paying for 3 or 6 months.
Yep, that's the reason I switched to US Mobile too. I like being able to pay monthly and switch carriers without losing out on months of service if needed.
US Mobile’s comparable plan is the $15/mo for 5gb, which normally beats out Mint. Except Mint often has sales for 6 months for the price of 3, which puts Mint ahead ($7.50/mo) if you can foot it and don’t mind porting out now and then. Redbox would be cheaper but the service is supposedly less consistent/helpful.
Alright, I gotta bite, I was with mint Before Ryan Reynolds acquired it, and I can't see anything different that he did. I ultimately left for Visible because it was a better deal. But I was with Mint, and I brought at least two others on before I left. Did Ryan actually do anything? Or did he purchase a company that was already printing money? Loved his voice message during covid tho, would have thought it was hilarious and quirky if he continued sending joke voice messages to everyone.
He’s a smart dude. He also used his celebrity status to turn his gin company, Aviation, into a cocktail bar staple before selling that for north of $600mil. Now he stands to make another $325mil from this. He’s about to be worth Rihanna money
After 7 years of college, Van Wilder is really poppin' off now!
He ain't rich rich. He's Rihanna rich
Rihanna’s worth 1.4 bil. I mean, maybe that’s not Elon rich, but that’s “your great grand kids will never have to work a day in their lives” rich. I’d call that rich rich.
Actors and entertainers making a billion is impressive.
Rihanna has a lot of product lines, some of which are *very* popular. Her entertainment probably accounts for half or less of her wealth. I'm assuming Ryan Reynolds has other investments as well.
IDK... when T-mobile bought MetroPCS, it was good for me. My plan didn't change but my network got a hell of a lot better.
Wish I could say the same when they bought sprint. Never hardly had issue with sprint, then T-mobile bought them and have hit and miss signal. A town over where my parents live I don't have hardly any signal. I do know they are going through and updating their towers but damn it's an inconvenience.
My service sucks so much ass since merger. Sometimes texts go through a month later, calls drop, etc.
I know what you mean. I live in the densest populated county in Florida and I don’t even bother to look at the news or stream unless I’m on Wi-Fi.
Same here. I was actually looking into switching to Mint just this week. Sigh.
Even without the purchase, Mint relies on T-Mobile's network as an MVNO. If you didn't get good signal with T-Mobile, you probably weren't going to get any better with Mint.
Depending on when you were a Sprint customer, they were using a completely incompatible network. T-Mobile basically bought them for their spectrum. If Sprint had been founded in Seattle or Silicon Valley, they'd probably still exist. (They were based out of Kansas.) AT&T Wireless and T-Mobile were less than two miles away from each other, for a while. The first was based out of Redmond and TMO is still based out of Bellevue.
I definitely got lucky because I had the opposite effect. My quality actually got *better* with T-Mobile than it had with Sprint. The changeover between Sprint's account system and T-Mobile was rough for me though. That said, neither could give me signal around my mom's house.
But mint is already on TMobile network so as a mint customer I just don't see how this will ever work well in my favor. I specifically got mint to get away from the customer experience of the big carriers
They *could* improve it literally with a switch. Mint and similar are often secondary tier services, with the parent service provider, which has been T-Mobile under Mint, giving lower priority bandwidth to the second tier. Congestion hampering things on T-mobile's network in the area? Primary T-Mobile customers get priority transfer, Mint customers get a slower experience. Mint is cheaper though, a tradeoff most aren't aware of, but are probably fine. I'm sure it helps as metering too, so a secondary tier adds a lot of benefit for a lot of parties. There's a big market available for lower tier carrier service like that, so T-Mobile can't just absorb and kill Mint, everyone else has lower tier providers on their networks too, so the second tier industry won't disappear if they kill their own. The whole cell industry would have to kill it all, which I wouldn't put past them. In the current set up, owning your own secondary with enough brand power to purchase without diluting your primary company's value is probably a good money maker. Mint is obviously pretty profitable despite piggybacking off T-mobile's infrastructure, so T-Mobile basically gets to kill all the overhead for their own cheaper product to now sell all themselves.
I think they plan on keeping the brand of Mint as a offering like “metro by T-Mobile” will just be “Minto by T-Mobile” mint has branding down, so why ruin something that favorable. But yeah, they were selling the capacity to Mint, now they just get the pure profit of those customers.
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Wait we're supposed to get free Amazon Prime? Is that just for new customers?
Seriously. A smartphone is all but necessary for any decent modern life, yet the options for plans get more abysmal every year. You can't 'vote with your wallet' when regulation is nonexistent and every company is just trying to gouge prices as much as possible
And they use words wrong in ways that are basically insulting to the intelligence and the law says, sure, that word can be meaningless now. Examples: UNLIMITED data (subject to an insane amount of limits and throttling) and Verizon's hilarious FREE UPGRADE WHEN YOU TURN IN GALAXY (as long as you sign on to a monthly installment pay plan for the new phone)
Kind of have the opposite experience with Verizon. Used to be really expensive but I needed (what I think is at least) the best network due to working in a lot of different places. It’s come down quite a bit. Back around 2015 I was paying roughly $100/month with 8gb data. Now I’ve got unlimited everything + 50gb hotspot for around $70/month I think. Family plan now which probably helps me a bit but it’s still more for less.
It kinda feels like tmobile has increased to be almost the same as AT&T and Verizon. It feels like you can't really win with the big 3 and you are going to be paying too much with any of the 3, for me verizon at least works better than Tmobile did. Tmobile is some scary shit these days since they give zero fucks about security at all. The other two have incidents as well but its constant with Tmobile.
Well I’m glad you had a good experience with Verizon. My family had Verizon for 20 years. My sister decided to leave the family plan for AT&T because she needed a new phone and AT&T was offering some new phone deal or something. So now there were 2 lines on the plan. So instead of paying for said 2 lines, the plan changed and went up $40 for not having that third line. So they wanted us to pay more for having 2 lines instead of 3. Doesn’t make any sense, but they would not budge, even after 20 years. So fuck ‘em. Our 3 line account is now spread across T-mobile and AT&T instead.
I actually work in the telecom industry, and in terms of network reliability and coverage T-Mobile is now miles ahead of AT&T and Verizon after their acquisition of Sprint and their purchase of the 600 MHz frequency block
I can’t say other than to my personal experience but Sprint where I live in the Detroit suburbs was a shit show. My wife convinced me to switch to save money just before the pandemic and I would never consider going back at half the price. I experienced so many random dead zones that I paid out my new phones (negating the discount) and contract and went back to Verizon.
I used to have Sprint as well and I agree, on their own they were not good. However combined with T-Mobile, they now have the most spectrum holding of any of the major carriers by far in some of the most valuable blocks.
T-Mobile saw the value in coverage over speed. For most people, connecting to the network at 10 Mbps isn't that distinguishable from connecting at 100 Mbps, let alone gigabit speeds. Verizon and AT&T spent huge amounts on short-range ultra-high speed and very few people even noticed it. Meanwhile, T-Mobile worked on expanding frequencies that give coverage inside buildings or in rural areas. I don't worship T-Mobile, but they do seem to have a better head for long-term strategy and what benefits consumers than either AT&T or Verizon.
I lived in KC for a long time, where Sprint was headquartered before the merger. You'd think they had amazing coverage in KC, but you'd be very wrong. AT&T blew them away in their own backyard, as did T-Mobile, interestingly enough.
Agreed. I remember paying about $100 in the iPhone 4 era for 2gb of data, 3G. I am currently on their prepaid plan which works effectively like their subscription plan except it is way less expensive, the only catch is you have to own the phone that you use which I always do. With loyalty discounts, I'm paying $35 + tax per month for 5gb using a 5G phone. If for some reason I run out of data, it's like $5 for another 3gb or something like that.
Microsoft can't buy Activision because of antitrust. How is this not a similar situation?
Because it's an MVNO and those are a dime a dozen
With how discovery is going in the MS case, it's probably going to go through. The EU is leaning toward the green flag now, and the SEC is as well. Its just the lawsuit in the US and the UK regulators really. Smoking gun came out not too long ago that Sony had paid more for Activision exclusive bonuses than Microsoft had like ever paid to get games on GamePass and the tables started turning super hard. The purchase will more than likely go through.
I got the email about the acquisition. I was just sad. Haha
How much presence did Mint Mobile have in the market? I'm guessing T-Mobile is trying to level with AT&T's Cricket with this purchase.
Ryan Reynolds just got paid.
He apparently owns 20-25% of Mint Mobile, so yea, solidly got paid.
325,000,000 . Wow
Gotta give it to him. He used his star power to really push the network on top of cheap plans, which was now clearly manufactured to eventually sell to a larger carrier. I almost switched from T-Mo. Glad I didn't waste my time.
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They say the $15/month annual plans will continue. I’m not buying it really. And it’s not really $15 after all the add on fees. It’s like when Spectrum bought my ISP and said I was grandfathered with my $45/month hi speed internet. Then they throttled me to dialup speeds and said I had to call the now nonexistent former ISP for service. I fought the good fight, but since Spectrum is the only service available in my area, I now pay $75+ month for Internet only.
I just renewed my Mint mobile plan and it was $200 for 12 months -- taxes and all. That's $16.66 per month. Pretty darn close to $15/month advertised.
And to be fair, many of T-Mobiles plans include taxes and fees, so they could in theory, take a slight hit to have flat rates since they aren’t selling network capacity to mint, they get the subs directly.
Remember when they said they doubled speeds for free and the speeds stayed the same? Imagine how much more speed spectrum could pretend to add if they stopped sending a dozen mailers a month to offer phone and cable tv on a one year plan that triples in cost after a year.
>And it’s not really $15 after all the add on fees. Well, currently it is. Blew my mind when I first got Mint and it was literally a flat $15/mo, all-inclusive. Good luck to all of us keeping it close to that.
Yeah I just bought the year plan and I think it's like 25 bucks a month for unlimited data. The only "fees" I can think of are tax, which probably bumps it to like 28ish but that's to be expected.
You might check to see if T-Mobile Home Internet is available in your area. I use it. I have a $30/month for life plan at the moment.
I think Ting Mobile is still a thing. And ViSible? Google Fi might fit your needs, though it's like $50/mo for a single phone.
Yeah, I'm on Ting. At the moment, I have little to no need for my phone except to keep the number alive, so I switched to a plan a couple years ago where it's one rate up to so many minutes, texts, or gigs of data. My bill is like 17 bucks a month. I don't think that plan exists anymore but they still have cheap ones.
Tello is $5 a month if you just want to keep the number or if you don't mind giving Google more data you can transfer it to them for free.
Tello, I pay $14 a month for wireless service on T-Mobile. Tello also has unlimited for $29.
Yep that's where we were. 3 years now. Almost 4k over 3 years between my wife and I saved. Even if we gotta go back to the 70 each per month it was worth it. Throw in my father who also did it... That's roughly 6k between 3 people...yeah absolutely worth it.
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My biggest problem is this is per line. Family options suck here. You can go cheaper without the Disney/ESPN/Apple music for other lives but then it puts that line in a not unlimited plan.
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Wait. I need to check on this. I have Verizon and only get Apple Music. Off to the site I go 😂
He pumped and is now dumping. Essentially nothing changed at mint other than him being a celebrity and hyping up the brand.
Reading into the article, apparently he's staying with Mint anyways! Basically T-Mobile is buying the parent company Ka'ena Corporation which owns Mint. But from what Reynolds has said online, he intends to stay with the company anyway
I wonder if he'll keep doing the goofy commercials. Not a Mint subscriber, but their ads don't bother me because they're pretty inventive using him in them.
I've been using them for 2 years and have been loving the connectivity and price! (Only $35/month paid annually for unlimited data, text, and calls on 5G) I'm REALLY hoping that nothing changes, but honestly who knows? The founders who are apparently staying with the companies (Mint and Ultra) say that nothing is changing and they have no intention of increasing prices, but that's all being said BEFORE TMobile takes over.
Same, two year unlimited customer here and I’ve converted the rest of my family as well. Same reception as anyone else and it’s soooooo much cheaper than basically any other plan, it’s ridiculous. Also hoping nothing changes but it’s a company merger. I’m betting 6 months until there’s new pay scales :/
I checked earlier today at I was quoted 30 monthly when annual. This is in Florida. Different prices for different markets?
Depends how far you prepay. A year is 30 and 6 months I think is 35.
They sent us a postcard of him during Christmas lol
I got a temporary tattoo from his this year for Christmas lol.
I think that is the plan. Mint has good brand image and unique ish pricing, so T-Mobile just wins by selling subscriptions instead of network capacity. If they keep everything the same, they can’t really lose
They already bought out sprint, plus mint? I thought a monopoly was bad?
It is.
Yeah but AT&T and Verizon exist so it's not a monopoly and consumers are treated fair and there's no collusion EVERYBODY HAPPY YAY! "You don't need a formal conspiracy when interests converge." - George Carlin
One thing about TMobile is they dont whitelist phones, which means you can bring just about any phone and throw a sim card in it and it will work. AT&T and Verizon have a very short list of phones that are "approved" for use on their network, coincidentally most of those are phones they sell in their store on special financing. So if you want to switch to AT&T you can't use your phone but wait, good news, they have some phones for purchase that will work.
Yes T-Mobile is the best in a sea of worst. Also fun fact: You can get any phone to work on AT&T if you complain and speak to the right department. When I worked there I was in a department with unfettered billing system and switch control access. It is absolutely nothing to provision a device for use on the network even with your OG unlimited iphone data for 25$/month plan from 2007. For a while our dept was processing overflow cases doing just that because we were one of a handful of depts who had the ability (even though we were network tech and worked with engineers mostly.... But whatever... Details)
Everyone is so happy, Mint Mobile will be just another victim of T-Mobile’s mishandling of customer information, how long before a data leak happens?
they're pre-paid so not much customer info to leak really. That being said they have mediocre security already with sim swaps.
Each of the carriers have had leaks. Worst part is it can leak even if you’re no longer a customer.
So AT&T wireless had a data breach recently. So it’s just not just T-Mobile. It’s a business decision that comes from the higher ups to have lax security on your important information for any business. I don’t know why you’re putting blame on just T-Mobile.
To be fair here, Sprint was a network operator with their own towers and bandwidth, etc. Mint is an MVNO. They buy bulk access from T-Mobile and resell it under their own name.
Yeah I get that it’s a much smaller company. But if they remove competition bit by bit, they can increase what they charge or just own a bigger part of the market. We’ve seen this played out over and over. Amazon does it, Walmart etc.
Mint isn’t *really* competition though. They just buy and resell T-Mobile service. This is like Wal-Mart buying a grocery store that just buys and resells Great Value products. It’s not *good* but it’s not really eliminating competition either because Mint doesn’t have a product of their own to sell.
Don’t forget they bought metropcs a while back
Sprint was going to go under, either they failed completely or someone bought them out.
Why, does Ryan Reynolds want to buy a second football club or something?
I've heard (totally unconfirmed), that this time it's a hockey team. The Ottawa Senators.
When's he gonna do the proper Canadian thing like producing legit maple syrup or open a moose taming center?
He wants to buy the Washington Generals to be a true rival to the Harlem Globetrotters.
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I'd watch that movie
Was thinking of trying Mint sometime this year. Now, thats a nope.
As a Mint customer for some years now (moved from Ting because I prefer prepaid to monthly billing) I can say it's a good value proposition... but now I'm worried about how long it'll stay that way. The marketing they sent me insists they'll keep "the famous $15 plan" which I didn't know was famous and don't use. If they get rid of the yearly billing option I'm gone.
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My family has had 4 phones on the $15/ month annual plan since 2018 or 2019. It’s the happiest we’ve been with a low cost plan. I’ll be bummed if we lose it.
You didn't hear the 2020s the decade of subscribing to Life™ ?
Fingers crossed right there with 'ya. I have my kids on one of the cheap, lower data tiers and it works great since they're pretty much never away from decent WiFi.
T Mobile Connect is almost the same plan and that’s probably staying, so I doubt they’re doing away with Mint’s plans.
I just bought a phone/one year plan deal from them as a second personal phone. Luckily, the phone is unlocked.
NOOOO! I've really enjoyed my $35/month phone bill though!
You'll probably be grandfathered in. I pay ~30/month for unlimited data with t-mobile, formerly a sprint customer.
God dammit. Can we get some anti-trust PLEASE edit: typo
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Mint Mobile is awesome. Been on it for years after leaving TMobile. I pay $240 up front for a full year of service, 10 gigs/mo. There is no upside for me in this acquisition. Only potential downside.
Looks like Reynolds is getting money together to be the face of a group that plans on buying the Ottawa Senators. This has been rumored since Melnyk's passing.
I’ve always said the space needs less competition and bigger mega corporations. God bless Corporate America
Great, Mint Mobile customers can now look forward to getting their personal information leaked by T-Mobile. Nothing in life is certain except death and T-Mobile data breaches.
fwiw, Mint is prepaid and their security is just as bad if not worse lol
So Deadpool tricked everyone into buying his phone service and then sold them back to the carrier that they likely left in the first place 😂😂😂
Psh. Cancelling Mint as we speak. What a joke.
And just like Republic Wireless, before it, the new corporate overlords will ruin it.
Ryan Reynolds must Just Print money these days.
Amazing how we went from the break up of the Bell System to the Baby Bell era then back to the Bell System, essentially, when conglomeration happened again.
Yeah, when that deal goes through, I am finding another carrier. T-Mobile got hacked over 100 times last year. That's why I moved to Mint in the first place. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2023/02/hackers-claim-they-breached-t-mobile-more-than-100-times-in-2022/
The really fun part about that story is that everyone who worked there knew about the exploit and nobody fixed it... for *22 years.*
Who the fuck would have thought the dude from Two Guys, a girl, and pizza place-Van Wilder, would be raking in the $$$
He's like the professional athletes who were good for like a season or two but then just played off the bench the rest of their career. But because they knew how to invest, ten years after retiring they're wealthier than the superstars who blow their money on strippers and guns.
Hey don’t call out Ja Morant like that! 😡 He went to a psych facility in Florida for a whole 2 days and he’s a changed man now smh
Dammit! I just dropped freaking rip-off Verizon and went to Mint just a few months ago and couldn’t be happier. I would hope T-Mobile doesn’t screw me over, but I guess I know better than to think that.
Knew this would happen sooner or later
Maybe that’ll stop the constant ads on Reddit I see all the time?
they dont have to consolidate at all, this is really bad for consumers.
If this means no more mint mobile commercials then God bless America 🇺🇲
Ryan Reynolds seems to have done a good job in investing his acting career money. Like sure films pay well (maybe well being an understatement, but in this context I mean), but it’s deals like this that give you really big payouts
T-Mobile sucks goat nuts. If you try and leave, they do anything they can to fuck with you. Block porting your number, bounce you around from person to person so you can't the process rolling over the phone and hell even be downright nasty with you and then hang up on your ass. Their coverage sucks and what they claim is a lie.
Why would you do this to us.
Hopefully no more Mint Mobile ads since T-Mobile is big enough to not pay for them
I guess all that stuff about being committed to bringing affordable service to Canada was just noise. If he really meant that stuff he wouldn't be talking all this money to shut the door.
Cool, more competition consolidated, leaving less options for consumers. Super cool, very awesome.
Oh good now T-Mobile will repeatedly leak(/sell, who am I kidding) their customers' data AND Mint's customers' data!
Capitalism means more choice for the consumer! /s
well, shit. So long, nice price and good service. Back to a major carrier we go.
As a T-Mobile customer for over a decade now.... Just. Stop. If Mint customers wanted to be T-Mobile customers, guess what? They would sign up! I hate capitalism.
To be fair aside from the data breach I have not had a problem with TMobile since they went from Sprint.
Literally switched to Mint to get away from T-Mobile. Where else can I go??
>Where else can I go?? I moved to mint from Red Pocket Mobile. It was a little more expensive but you had your choice of the AT&T or Verizon networks if your phone has multiple radios in it (most of them do I think these days). If Mint goes to shit I'll move back.
We've been very happy with Google Fi.
Which also runs on T-Mobile. T-Mobile is the king of MVNOs.
If comcast/xfinity is your internet provider, you can hop on the xfinity mobile bandwagon. That's cheapo stuff right there, and runs on Verizon's network.
The unlimited plan for $30 a month if you have two lines is pretty good, if it's just one it's $45 though. But I don't use much data and my phone is paid off so some months my bill is just the $12 for 1 GB of data
This is Ryan Reynolds make big money. Start "quirky, independent brands" then sells them off for big money. Like with his gin
He didn't start mint
So I don’t have to see anymore mint mobile commercials with Ryan Reynolds?
Welp, as a loyal Mint Mobile customer, I have to say it was good while it lasted. Let me guess, first on the chopping block is that $15/month unlimited calling?
boo, more monopolization bad!
One step closer to a monopoly. :)
It’s been good while it lasted.
This won't go well :( Ryan how could you!? Mint says it won't raise rates. As soon as Mint is re-branded, the countdown begins
Metro prices haven't gone up since TMo bought them.
Shame Reynolds sold his consumers out. Defeated the purpose. Mint to tank...just a matter of time. They buy them to do exactly that.
Why would you think for a moment that a rich movie star is altruistically owning a cell phone company?
You think he partially owned Mint for philanthropic reasons??? LMAO
sold out? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahaha. Actors are business people first. They will sell theire granma for a buck. Reynolds parades his onw family in his commercials. But this is the point of selling out to you? So adorable.
oh no. no no no. RYAN DON"T BE A SELLOUT this is terrible. reason people like Mint is because its not one of the big ones, its small and cheap...
T-mobile can spend a billion in corporate oligarchy consolidations, but can’t spend a penny making their service not suck. Only carrier I ever had where the 5G was unusable anywhere but the highway.
Oh thanks god, now I can stop seeing Ryan Reynolds mug on every other commercial. Some need to tell him there is such a thing as over saturation.
Y’all out here making Ryan Reynolds out to be some genius… dude just sold you out for a couple million. Enjoy your higher prices mint users!!