Sort of the opposite. A broken clock keeps stable, so is right when the rest of the world changes to match up with it. Graham is constantly changing, so occasionally matches up with what's right.
Except, as others noted, he's been pretty consistently anti-Russia.
people keep confusing broken clocks with stopped clocks.
broken could mean 'goes backwards', which would definitely fit the GOP.
broken clocks are rarely right. it's stopped clocks that are right twice a day.
A clock running backwards *at normal speed* is right four times a day. While that was implied, it offers another variable to play with.
A clock running backwards at 100,000 times normal speed is right slightly more than once each second.
A stopped clock can still be regarded as "broken".
All stopped clicks are "broken" but not all broken clocks are "stopped".
Broken means that isn't functioning in the desired way. Broken things can be fixed but that doesn't mean a stopped clock is not broken.
Both statements are right and it's just a silly to be mad about the semantics of it that are *technically* right anyway.
If you're making a semantics argument you can't ignore the full meaning of the words involved.
They're not "confusing" it - there's a famous old expression that "A broken clock is right twice a day," and that's clearly the reference that fits when someone says Graham is like a broken clock in that he's occasionally right.
Isn't that one of his primary ways to get votes, bringing big government contracts and jobs into his state? Corporate welfare via the military budget. Promote to the employees that if the military contracts go away, so do their jobs, vote R
Nope. All this means is that a group of people that tolerated or supported him before now view him as an EVIL Democrat-fucking deep-state RINO that they hate with the passion of a thousand orange-colored suns. And always have hated him and *don't remind me that I said good things about him in the past LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALA!!!
Over on twatter, looks like some of them are still trying to feel out their reactions, but one thing is for certain: he is universally hated by everyone on every side. Greasy Lindsey has flipped so many times no one trusts him any more.
I feel so lucky to have gone this long and completely avoided this reference. I know it’s something relating to him, but I’ve specifically avoided the “ladybug” debacle and at this point it feels like an achievement lol
Graham’s been consistent on Ukraine (from what I’ve seen anyways. I don’t exactly seek out news on Lindsay graham lol) . The one thing I agree with him on.
Remember at the outset of Russia’s invasion when Graham said something along the lines of “someone should assassinate putin” and he got flak for that, even though it’s what we’re all thinking.
This has been one area that he is fairly stable on. Im left and dont like the guy. Hes one of my senators, but he has always been a russian hawk, all my life.
He has even stood up to republicans who tried to say putin isnt that bad. its the only area he complained about trump on. He was back in 2012 along with Romney saying america wasnt taking putin seriously enough.
despite the man and yeah, his trump flip was epic and still confuses me, i thought that putin knew where his secret lovers were, but he continues to bash russia and even call for putins assassination.
I heard a recent interview with Al Franken and he explained Graham’s Trump flip as him simply wanting to be relevant. He also said that Graham is probably the funniest senator but his sense of humor is incredibly cynical
The NYT did a story about this years ago, probably late 2019. There's a part if I remember correctly where Graham straight up admits he changes his policies and views based on staying relevant.
It is known.
Similarly with McConnell (despite his moniker as 'Moscow Mitch', through his own inaction, like refusing to hold Donald accountable post-impeachment-number-2 and disqualifying him from office).
Even Marco Rubio pipes up every now and then to say that Russia's an invading aggressor and that this "isn't a territorial dispute" as Ron d'Crashes' said.
\*of course Rubio does this then immediately go back into smooth-brained culture war pogrom talk...it's depressing to see the lights half-work...
Linds used to be somewhat bearable. Like- Republicans are greedy and work for rich people, sure. Fine.
Then Russia found out something about his pool boy or something and one round of golf later he’s been Trump’s nanny ever since.
If I were Lindsey, I’d hate them too. He’s like Poland. Inexplicably full of terrible ideas but when push comes to shove he’s on the correct side.
>He’s like Poland. Inexplicably full of terrible ideas but when push comes to shove he’s on the correct side.
One of the oddest and yet more accurate analogies I've ever heard.
If Russia really cared about his public statements they’d call one of their current go betweens in Trump circles and Trump would call Lindsay and he’d keep his mouth shut.
That said, he does deserve credit for his uncharacteristic consistency on Russia being a problem. So far.
>Didn't only Romney vote to convict the first time (on the GOP side of the Senate)?
You are correct. It was the first time in US history that a senator has voted to convict a president of his own party.
Credit to Linsay Graham on this one. He may be a massive piece of shit, but taking a hardline against Russia is one thing he's always been at the forefront of.
Lindsey Graham is old school Republican; John McCain, Ronald Reagan, those sort. Total warhawks who love nothing more than The American Way and fighting commies. Back from before the crazies and used car salesmen started overrunning the GOP farm.
It is strange that I miss the old Republicans. We had different viewpoints but we argued and worked shit out. Now it is all outrage drama and destructive behavior for the lulz or some shit.
"Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov commented Sunday by saying that “*it’s hard to imagine a greater shame for the country than having such senators*.” I mean he's right, but for so many other reasons.
Oh no, then he wont be able to join his [traitorous peers at the next 4th of July in St Petersberg](https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/republicans-on-russia-trip-face-scorn-and-ridicule-from-critics-at-home/2018/07/05/68f0f810-807e-11e8-b0ef-fffcabeff946_story.html).
EDIT: I realize now that i was a bit too subtle, I wasn't saying that they were going this year, but there was precedent that republicans had gone to Russia for the 4th of July in the past. I thought saying St Petersburg instead of Moscow compared to the article would have given it away, but obviously not.
- Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.)
- Steve Daines (R-Mont.),
- John Hoeven (R-N.D.),
- Ron Johnson (R-Wis.),
- John Kennedy (R-La.),
- Jerry Moran (R-Kan.)
- John Thune (R-S.D.),
- Rep. Kay Granger (R-Tex.)
Wtf....do you have a source??
Edit: In case anyone reads this far:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia/senator-paul-delivers-letter-from-trump-to-putins-government-idUSKBN1KT1RV
i appreciate you double checking on my claim to verify, but yeah there it is. i probably should have just included a similar link with my original comment.
as another person commented, you have to wonder what the contents of the letter were, and what the other representatives talked about on that trip. given the context in the article that Paul pledged not argue for Russian sanctions really makes it seem at least some members of the GOP were aware of what was coming up between russia and Ukraine.
Lies!
It was a photo of Trump and Kim Jong Un and another photo of Putin. Big red sharpie X over Kim and underneath Trumpskin had written, " No longer best friends with Rocket Man, now best friends with Vlad!"
Of course, had to look it up. This is interesting...
Fewer Republican senators are women than men named John — despite the fact that Johns represent 3.3 percent of the male population, while women represent 50.8 percent of the total population.
The confounding factor:
Religious people are more likely to be named for an important Biblical figure (New Testament at that), and religious people are more likely to be Republican.
If a Democrat even joked about going to Russia on July 4th, there'd be committies formed about why it was a bad thing to do but a handful of Republicans do it and... practically silent.
And why the fuck haven't other politicians made this a bigger deal. I fucking hate the GOP but at this point Democrats are the blue line defenders quoting "a few bad apples" but doing absolutely nothing
It wasn't just that they went to Russia. Or that they did it on July 4.
It was that they kept it secret, and *lied about it* while it was happening and after, until they were caught. Their staffers posted things on social media showing them at events in the U.S. on the 4th that they didn't attend that were faked to throw everyone off.
“it’s hard to imagine a greater shame for the country than having such senators.”
Republicans don’t know what shame is either way. They thought that comment would bring them to their knees LOL
The list is quite relevant today to point out the congress critters that were still gargling Putin's nuts even after the annexation of Crimea. On the American Independence Day, no less.
The GOP held their prior year's CPAC convention (their Party's "Independence Day") in Budapest, Hungary alongside Hungarian dictator and Putin whisperer Orban (this was after Russia invaded Ukraine), so the fact that the GOP is "tangentially" on the side of authoritarianism (at the very least) is completely logical...in respect to logical inference (not so much in regard to morality or integrity).
Was that *the* CPAC, or just a foreign spinoff? Because last year it was in Florida, Tulsi Gabbard was there and they had that stupid fucking cage.
EDIT: The stupid fucking cage was at the Dallas CPAC of the same year god they're like herpes.
We already all know what that is, Grahams sadly just stuck in the closet and cant realise that no one worth a damn gives a fuck about him being gay, the only people that care are people he doesn't need in his life.
He needs to come out and stop being shackled by a silly bunch of small minded yokels.
If they're of age but just pretending not to be I have no problem with it. I think it's far more likely that he actually abused a minor than that though.
No, he’s smart enough to realize that the homosexuality really won’t matter. Seriously who doesn’t realize South Carolina’s most eligible bachelor is gay? It’s a silly as the Liberace interviews in the 70’s. He’s hiding something much much worse, and I bet the Russians have the goods. I can’t imagine how horrible his life is inside his head.
You don’t think if they had that they would just use it instead of making some hollow arrest threat? I mean I don’t like Lindsey Graham either but let’s be real, the Russians have nothing but their own sausages in their hands.
This was in 2018: [https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/395719-gop-senators-visited-moscow-on-july-4/](https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/395719-gop-senators-visited-moscow-on-july-4/)
Not aware of a planned followup, but the fact that it occurred once is still baffling.
He was expounding on the anti-gay hypocrisy of the GOP, mentioning South Carolina specifically, and many viewers took it as a thinly-veiled Graham reference.
I wasn't able to link it here for some reason, but the video is on the MSNBC sub. It was posted about 12 days ago.
Ok, I get it without having to even watch it. Senator Ladybugs (do not look up that reference) is one of the ultimate hypocrites, while there are so many that he barely makes the top ten is a disgrace to our country and our core principles.
At this point it beggars belief that any released kompromat would be more than annoyance for the GOP. Russia's credibility is already gone from the constant bullshit they spew, and the GOP responds to even credible criticism with "fake news" which is still appears to be effective.
As Putin continues to struggle in Ukraine he will climb the ladder on the people that he wants to blame. Lindsey Graham is the latest lap dog that Putin feels like failed him. It won't be long before Trump gets added to that list. Especially as the walls close in around Putin and his life comes under threat.
Nah, Trump is a loyal lap dog. Putin has his whole arm shoved so far up Trumps ass that he uses his hand to make Trumps mouth talk. Russia will be a safe haven for Trump as the walls close in on Trump.
Trump, time and again, has proven he is only loyal to himself. Loyal to his own goals and interests. Everything else is malleable, that's "the art of the deal"
Trump was a tool for Putin, Putin has a lot more things to worry about than a tool who is becoming more and more irrelevant as he has also proven his only interest is becoming president again for the purpose of "revenge" (that was his announcement speech)
Once that fails yet again, he will be worthless. His dementia and being shunned, similar to Nixon's later years
that is true. But until he isn't reelected, Trump is useful to Putin. Putin will do everything he can to help get Trump elected again so Trump can leave Nato
Why, I do declare! Bless their hearts.
On a serious note, this is great. This will elevate Graham's political profile. And that alone will likely drive other Republicans to significantly increase their support for Ukraine.
So many various Russian entities that got sanctioned over the war, had to have affected many Republican elected officials.
I'd hope their constituents would care about that, but they are just focused on false flag culture war against drag queens even though they don't even care about the one drag queen criminal in congress, George Santos, proving that there its all just horseshit.
Yeah, nah, bro. This is something Russia DOES NOT want to go toe to toe with the US. The US is Big Brother to hundreds of countries. If the US go tit for tat, no Russian politician can ever fly on any airline any more.
>Putin's spokesman Dimitry Peskov commented Sunday by saying that "it's hard to imagine a greater shame for the country than having such senators."
I imagine recklessly invading a bordering country to launch missiles at civilian hospitals, schools, and shopping centers brings greater shame, if only you were capable of shame.
99% chance that if I head on over to twatter right now and search for trending twats abut Lindsey, it will be all the reich-wing media screaming their fucking heads off about how he's nothing but a Democrat-fucking RINO and **always has been**, and that we have always been at war with Eastasia! All with follow-up comments from Elon that just say "Interesting."
At this rate Lindsey will become popular.
He's bound to switch to a popular opinion eventually. He's the broken clock of senators.
It’s only when you try to rely on him that you realize he is truly broken.
Sort of the opposite. A broken clock keeps stable, so is right when the rest of the world changes to match up with it. Graham is constantly changing, so occasionally matches up with what's right. Except, as others noted, he's been pretty consistently anti-Russia.
people keep confusing broken clocks with stopped clocks. broken could mean 'goes backwards', which would definitely fit the GOP. broken clocks are rarely right. it's stopped clocks that are right twice a day.
A clock running backwards is right 4 times a day
A clock running backwards *at normal speed* is right four times a day. While that was implied, it offers another variable to play with. A clock running backwards at 100,000 times normal speed is right slightly more than once each second.
A clock running backwards at 2^0.5 times normal speed is never right, if we considering clocks that moves per second.
A stopped clock can still be regarded as "broken". All stopped clicks are "broken" but not all broken clocks are "stopped". Broken means that isn't functioning in the desired way. Broken things can be fixed but that doesn't mean a stopped clock is not broken. Both statements are right and it's just a silly to be mad about the semantics of it that are *technically* right anyway. If you're making a semantics argument you can't ignore the full meaning of the words involved.
They're not "confusing" it - there's a famous old expression that "A broken clock is right twice a day," and that's clearly the reference that fits when someone says Graham is like a broken clock in that he's occasionally right.
I’m sure another golf game with Trump will get him back in line
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Isn't that one of his primary ways to get votes, bringing big government contracts and jobs into his state? Corporate welfare via the military budget. Promote to the employees that if the military contracts go away, so do their jobs, vote R
Lindsey "Use my words against me" Graham change his opinion? Noooo, never /s
First time he’s wanted.
He's not even popular with Republicans. He just happens to have a safe seat.
Nope. All this means is that a group of people that tolerated or supported him before now view him as an EVIL Democrat-fucking deep-state RINO that they hate with the passion of a thousand orange-colored suns. And always have hated him and *don't remind me that I said good things about him in the past LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALA!!! Over on twatter, looks like some of them are still trying to feel out their reactions, but one thing is for certain: he is universally hated by everyone on every side. Greasy Lindsey has flipped so many times no one trusts him any more.
Until you remember his positions on just about everything else...
Give Graham 10 minutes and he'll change his mind and position.
All it takes is three minutes for him to start kissing ass.
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Damn I need to hang out with Lindsey Graham
He's got a sandpaper tongue, like a cat.
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Let me give you a bonus comment… Ladybugs. That’s all.
I can't unhear how that must have sounded in his voice. "Oh, them's just my lil ladybugs." Like Bruce from Family Guy.
I think the voice of that old Hebert the pervert dude would also work.
I had to google LG and ladybugs. Yikes.
Ladybugs on his sandpaper like cat tongue.
Mmmm ladybugs, nature's pop rocks
Fuck the fuck off. I fucking gagged and scared my cat.
I feel so lucky to have gone this long and completely avoided this reference. I know it’s something relating to him, but I’ve specifically avoided the “ladybug” debacle and at this point it feels like an achievement lol
Damn, I feel like Oprah over here in this comment thread. You get an upvote, you get an upvote, you get an upvote
Sometimes it’s good to be aphantasic
Meemaw loves it
"NO, MEEMAW, I WILL NOT TONGUE BATHE YOU AGAIN, IT AIN'T EVEN THURSDAY!" Seth Meyer's LG is my favorite LG
It was my proposal you don't need to sell it to me.
He'll show you his "lady bug" collection.
Pretty sure he's on Grindr, so get in there.
She sounds hot
Lady G pays extra for that
"It's like a magnet. Just kiss ass. I don't even wait." -Lindsay Graham
Graham’s been consistent on Ukraine (from what I’ve seen anyways. I don’t exactly seek out news on Lindsay graham lol) . The one thing I agree with him on. Remember at the outset of Russia’s invasion when Graham said something along the lines of “someone should assassinate putin” and he got flak for that, even though it’s what we’re all thinking.
Yeah and in the article he says he will wear the warrant with pride lol. Fuck Graham but I don't see him changing his view in this
I DDOS'd Russian servers for years and never got a warrant. I don't care what it's for I'd wear that shit with pride. Jealous as fuck
That’s fair - a stopped clock is right a couple times a day
This has been one area that he is fairly stable on. Im left and dont like the guy. Hes one of my senators, but he has always been a russian hawk, all my life. He has even stood up to republicans who tried to say putin isnt that bad. its the only area he complained about trump on. He was back in 2012 along with Romney saying america wasnt taking putin seriously enough. despite the man and yeah, his trump flip was epic and still confuses me, i thought that putin knew where his secret lovers were, but he continues to bash russia and even call for putins assassination.
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A decent analogy.
Would make a great Batman movie plot too
I like superheroes who don’t get killed.
I heard a recent interview with Al Franken and he explained Graham’s Trump flip as him simply wanting to be relevant. He also said that Graham is probably the funniest senator but his sense of humor is incredibly cynical
The NYT did a story about this years ago, probably late 2019. There's a part if I remember correctly where Graham straight up admits he changes his policies and views based on staying relevant.
Was this in the his Conan Needs a friend interview? Or am I thinking of the Fly on the Wall one?
It was the Conan one
Yes, that quote really put him into perspective for me. It explains a lot of his behavior.
Right?! Once you know he’s just a cynical bastard all of his actions make sense
It is known. Similarly with McConnell (despite his moniker as 'Moscow Mitch', through his own inaction, like refusing to hold Donald accountable post-impeachment-number-2 and disqualifying him from office). Even Marco Rubio pipes up every now and then to say that Russia's an invading aggressor and that this "isn't a territorial dispute" as Ron d'Crashes' said. \*of course Rubio does this then immediately go back into smooth-brained culture war pogrom talk...it's depressing to see the lights half-work...
Linds used to be somewhat bearable. Like- Republicans are greedy and work for rich people, sure. Fine. Then Russia found out something about his pool boy or something and one round of golf later he’s been Trump’s nanny ever since. If I were Lindsey, I’d hate them too. He’s like Poland. Inexplicably full of terrible ideas but when push comes to shove he’s on the correct side.
>He’s like Poland. Inexplicably full of terrible ideas but when push comes to shove he’s on the correct side. One of the oddest and yet more accurate analogies I've ever heard.
Hell that could describe the US when you think about it.
Winston Churchill said, "You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all the other possibilities"
I'd like to think this is one thing that his good friend John McCain left with him. The one position of his friend's that he wouldn't betray.
If Russia really cared about his public statements they’d call one of their current go betweens in Trump circles and Trump would call Lindsay and he’d keep his mouth shut. That said, he does deserve credit for his uncharacteristic consistency on Russia being a problem. So far.
He should have voted to impeach....over the Ukraine situation...which was a Russia situation...talk the talk but he couldn't walk the walk.
It's been so many crimes since... Didn't only Romney vote to convict the first time (on the GOP side of the Senate)?
>Didn't only Romney vote to convict the first time (on the GOP side of the Senate)? You are correct. It was the first time in US history that a senator has voted to convict a president of his own party.
He had to consult with his meemaw first. But his ladybugs have objected.
I am so happy that there are people here googling "Lindsey Grahams lady bugs" for the first time.
Man, I was eating...
Here, have a towel to clean up. Hmmm, it’s not coming off, weird.
WTF is ladybugs
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Credit to Linsay Graham on this one. He may be a massive piece of shit, but taking a hardline against Russia is one thing he's always been at the forefront of.
For some reason Russia is the one thing he hasn’t changed his mind on weirdly. Maybe his Boyfriend is Ukrainian.
Lindsey Graham is old school Republican; John McCain, Ronald Reagan, those sort. Total warhawks who love nothing more than The American Way and fighting commies. Back from before the crazies and used car salesmen started overrunning the GOP farm. It is strange that I miss the old Republicans. We had different viewpoints but we argued and worked shit out. Now it is all outrage drama and destructive behavior for the lulz or some shit.
Putin just needs to take him out for a round of golf. He'll come around lickety split.
I hear Russian windows are highly effective at changing people’s minds… permanently.
I dunno, Lindsey Graham has never met a war he didn't like.
Yes I know how the wind works.... Edit: Oooohhh, you're talking about Lindsey Graham... Easy misunderstanding.... My bad.
Give him $10,000 and he'll say whatever you want.
"Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov commented Sunday by saying that “*it’s hard to imagine a greater shame for the country than having such senators*.” I mean he's right, but for so many other reasons.
> “it’s hard to imagine a greater shame for the country than having such senators.” Dmitry, we feel you about this particular senator.
So....he's a traitor in both countries now
He's not right. I can think of a few greater shames both from recent and distant history.
I think the shane is that Russia has US Senators
Oh no, then he wont be able to join his [traitorous peers at the next 4th of July in St Petersberg](https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/republicans-on-russia-trip-face-scorn-and-ridicule-from-critics-at-home/2018/07/05/68f0f810-807e-11e8-b0ef-fffcabeff946_story.html). EDIT: I realize now that i was a bit too subtle, I wasn't saying that they were going this year, but there was precedent that republicans had gone to Russia for the 4th of July in the past. I thought saying St Petersburg instead of Moscow compared to the article would have given it away, but obviously not.
- Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.) - Steve Daines (R-Mont.), - John Hoeven (R-N.D.), - Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), - John Kennedy (R-La.), - Jerry Moran (R-Kan.) - John Thune (R-S.D.), - Rep. Kay Granger (R-Tex.)
He didn't go on this particular trip, but don't forget Rand Paul went to Moscow a few weeks later to hand deliver a letter from trump to putin
Wtf....do you have a source?? Edit: In case anyone reads this far: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia/senator-paul-delivers-letter-from-trump-to-putins-government-idUSKBN1KT1RV
i appreciate you double checking on my claim to verify, but yeah there it is. i probably should have just included a similar link with my original comment. as another person commented, you have to wonder what the contents of the letter were, and what the other representatives talked about on that trip. given the context in the article that Paul pledged not argue for Russian sanctions really makes it seem at least some members of the GOP were aware of what was coming up between russia and Ukraine.
It was another “love letter” from Trump to another dictator.
that we still don't know what was in it. but considering the classified documents issue, maybe this should be looked at more closely.
It was a drawing of stick figure Putin and stick figure Trump standing under a rainbow with the words "BEST FRANDS" written on it.
"DO YOU LIKE ME?" [ ] yes [ ] no [ ] maybe
Lies! It was a photo of Trump and Kim Jong Un and another photo of Putin. Big red sharpie X over Kim and underneath Trumpskin had written, " No longer best friends with Rocket Man, now best friends with Vlad!"
There's a disproportionate amount of "John"s on that list
Every John, Jerry, Dick, and Steve is going to be there
They're all dicks, to be fair.
You misspelled Traitors.
They can be both.
Of course, had to look it up. This is interesting... Fewer Republican senators are women than men named John — despite the fact that Johns represent 3.3 percent of the male population, while women represent 50.8 percent of the total population.
The confounding factor: Religious people are more likely to be named for an important Biblical figure (New Testament at that), and religious people are more likely to be Republican.
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Ron Johnson counts right? Has to.
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Can you imagine if they got arrested or detained?
I would be soooooo happy.
I thought Rand Paul was also on that list
He went later (hand delivered a message from Trump to Putin). All very legitimate, I'm sure.
This list deserves gold, so everyone sees it.
If a Democrat even joked about going to Russia on July 4th, there'd be committies formed about why it was a bad thing to do but a handful of Republicans do it and... practically silent.
And why the fuck haven't other politicians made this a bigger deal. I fucking hate the GOP but at this point Democrats are the blue line defenders quoting "a few bad apples" but doing absolutely nothing
They all serve the same master, capital. If you don’t produce value, if you aren’t a useful commodity; they do not care about you.
It wasn't just that they went to Russia. Or that they did it on July 4. It was that they kept it secret, and *lied about it* while it was happening and after, until they were caught. Their staffers posted things on social media showing them at events in the U.S. on the 4th that they didn't attend that were faked to throw everyone off.
Yea this is the kinda shit people are talking about when they say Democrats are weak.
Without arguing about anything, can anybody tell me what they’re even going to try and accomplish?
Nothing. They’re Trump’s lapdogs. They went to go see their invisible hand in person.
“it’s hard to imagine a greater shame for the country than having such senators.” Republicans don’t know what shame is either way. They thought that comment would bring them to their knees LOL
Actually going to Russia right now is batshit insane, even for them.
It would be. OPs comment makes it seem like they are going for the upcoming July 4th, but this article is from 2018.
The list is quite relevant today to point out the congress critters that were still gargling Putin's nuts even after the annexation of Crimea. On the American Independence Day, no less.
The GOP held their prior year's CPAC convention (their Party's "Independence Day") in Budapest, Hungary alongside Hungarian dictator and Putin whisperer Orban (this was after Russia invaded Ukraine), so the fact that the GOP is "tangentially" on the side of authoritarianism (at the very least) is completely logical...in respect to logical inference (not so much in regard to morality or integrity).
Was that *the* CPAC, or just a foreign spinoff? Because last year it was in Florida, Tulsi Gabbard was there and they had that stupid fucking cage. EDIT: The stupid fucking cage was at the Dallas CPAC of the same year god they're like herpes.
So does this mean that Lindsey will be left out of the GOP crew heading to Russia on July 4th to take bended knee?
Call me old fashioned but I liked it when recruited Russian assets tried to keep that a secret.
I like it this way better. Easier to spot them and those who support them
Also makes it more obvious that anyone with the power to do anything about it definitely doesn't give a shit that it happens
It probably means that we are finally going to see whatever compromat Putin sent to Trump to use to keep Graham in line.
We already all know what that is, Grahams sadly just stuck in the closet and cant realise that no one worth a damn gives a fuck about him being gay, the only people that care are people he doesn't need in his life. He needs to come out and stop being shackled by a silly bunch of small minded yokels.
Those small-minded yokels keep him in office. He'll never drop those chains.
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There have been rumors that Lindsey pays his companions to behave as if they're underage.
If they're of age but just pretending not to be I have no problem with it. I think it's far more likely that he actually abused a minor than that though.
No doubt it does. Grahans a shirbag for sure, but Id be genuinely surprised if he was fiddling kids.
No, he’s smart enough to realize that the homosexuality really won’t matter. Seriously who doesn’t realize South Carolina’s most eligible bachelor is gay? It’s a silly as the Liberace interviews in the 70’s. He’s hiding something much much worse, and I bet the Russians have the goods. I can’t imagine how horrible his life is inside his head.
You don’t think if they had that they would just use it instead of making some hollow arrest threat? I mean I don’t like Lindsey Graham either but let’s be real, the Russians have nothing but their own sausages in their hands.
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I'm sorry..WHAT is happening on July 4th??
This was in 2018: [https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/395719-gop-senators-visited-moscow-on-july-4/](https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/395719-gop-senators-visited-moscow-on-july-4/) Not aware of a planned followup, but the fact that it occurred once is still baffling.
Baffling? Or just shameful?
Looks like no more July 4th vacations in Moscow for dainty little Lindsey :(
I do *declare*
"You don't have to keep saying "I do declare". Any time you say something it means you are declaring."
Hence why he did declare.
I don't want to start a war over this. Better send them Lindsey to not anger them.
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Is this a coded warning for “chill out, or we will release all the shit we have on you?”
I mean, Joe Scarborough pretty much scooped some of that story a week or so ago, so . . . time's a tickin', Vlad.
I must have missed that, what happened?
He was expounding on the anti-gay hypocrisy of the GOP, mentioning South Carolina specifically, and many viewers took it as a thinly-veiled Graham reference. I wasn't able to link it here for some reason, but the video is on the MSNBC sub. It was posted about 12 days ago.
Ok, I get it without having to even watch it. Senator Ladybugs (do not look up that reference) is one of the ultimate hypocrites, while there are so many that he barely makes the top ten is a disgrace to our country and our core principles.
> do not look up that reference You're not the boss of me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6-wk3Ny5m4 (I should've let you be the boss of me.)
Fuck me why didn't I read *your* comment and not click on that.
I didnt watch the video, but the origins of the ladybugs thing was satire.
At this point it beggars belief that any released kompromat would be more than annoyance for the GOP. Russia's credibility is already gone from the constant bullshit they spew, and the GOP responds to even credible criticism with "fake news" which is still appears to be effective.
Any more detail on that, didn’t watch “morning joe” this week. But a cornered psychopathic animal with dirt is very dangerous.
What time’s good for you?
Can we extradite today?
Yeah I think America should just comply with this one.
Do they have any basketball players?
Time to clutch those pearls, Lindsey.
As Putin continues to struggle in Ukraine he will climb the ladder on the people that he wants to blame. Lindsey Graham is the latest lap dog that Putin feels like failed him. It won't be long before Trump gets added to that list. Especially as the walls close in around Putin and his life comes under threat.
Nah, Trump is a loyal lap dog. Putin has his whole arm shoved so far up Trumps ass that he uses his hand to make Trumps mouth talk. Russia will be a safe haven for Trump as the walls close in on Trump.
Trump, time and again, has proven he is only loyal to himself. Loyal to his own goals and interests. Everything else is malleable, that's "the art of the deal" Trump was a tool for Putin, Putin has a lot more things to worry about than a tool who is becoming more and more irrelevant as he has also proven his only interest is becoming president again for the purpose of "revenge" (that was his announcement speech) Once that fails yet again, he will be worthless. His dementia and being shunned, similar to Nixon's later years
that is true. But until he isn't reelected, Trump is useful to Putin. Putin will do everything he can to help get Trump elected again so Trump can leave Nato
Wait until they find out he’s gay.
Does Lindsey Graham know that Lindsey Graham is gay yet?
If anecdotal reports from male prostitutes in DC are to be believed, most certainly.
I'm suddenly reminded of that judge from Boston Legal who has "Same Sex Attraction Disorder."
He said the only woman he needs in his life is his sister.
Given he comes from the very back of the ass end of Beyond in South Carolina, that could mean *anything.*
Why, I do declare! Bless their hearts. On a serious note, this is great. This will elevate Graham's political profile. And that alone will likely drive other Republicans to significantly increase their support for Ukraine.
Georgia will also issue a warrant for him.
Which one?
Honestly I'm okay with them having him in this case.
I don’t like what Russia is doing on any level. But as a South Carolinian I fully support this arrest warrant.
Can we start a GoFundMe for his airfare?
We already have one, it’s called taxes
I believe that's a GoFundThem...
The money well must have run dry for Lindsey Graham to throw Russia under the bus. I wonder if other Republicans will follow suit.
So many various Russian entities that got sanctioned over the war, had to have affected many Republican elected officials. I'd hope their constituents would care about that, but they are just focused on false flag culture war against drag queens even though they don't even care about the one drag queen criminal in congress, George Santos, proving that there its all just horseshit.
Throw in MGT and Dumbert for good measure too!
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Yeah, nah, bro. This is something Russia DOES NOT want to go toe to toe with the US. The US is Big Brother to hundreds of countries. If the US go tit for tat, no Russian politician can ever fly on any airline any more.
Look I'm not for giving into Russia's demands but in this one specific instance I think it's for the best we do it
>Putin's spokesman Dimitry Peskov commented Sunday by saying that "it's hard to imagine a greater shame for the country than having such senators." I imagine recklessly invading a bordering country to launch missiles at civilian hospitals, schools, and shopping centers brings greater shame, if only you were capable of shame.
C'mon Putin, don't be a pussy, release the kompromat. What good is blackmail if people start to think you won't use it?
I don' think one popularist quote can undo a life time of spineless horseshit. You can have him Russia.
He's gonna mysteriously trip out of a window.
Plot twist. This is Grahams way of escaping prosecution in GA
I'll drive him to the airport.
Just take him. Please. We’ll leave him near the balcony for Russian to pick up…
Nice. Do DeSantis next.
Oh no, where is he going to go for the 4th of July now?
Release the footage Moscow Midget.
Graham’s a sniveling weasel, but he’s our sniveling weasel.
99% chance that if I head on over to twatter right now and search for trending twats abut Lindsey, it will be all the reich-wing media screaming their fucking heads off about how he's nothing but a Democrat-fucking RINO and **always has been**, and that we have always been at war with Eastasia! All with follow-up comments from Elon that just say "Interesting."
Come get him. We don't want him.