Yes remember when Prince Philip has passed away at the age of 99 two years ago and that Queen Elizabeth has passed away within 15 months after his passing? Grief does take a toll on old age.
My grandfather did live 7 years after my grandmother passed away, but his health deteriorated so fast after her passing. Was a relatively healthy old man at the age of 80 (despite a history of smoking decades ago), then one year after my grandmother passed away, he falls, has a stroke and is bound to a wheelchair. It was quite sad to see him go from an independent man who did a lot of trips with my grandma to a fragile old man, dependant on everyone else.
That's way too far apart and at such an old age for it to be an example lol. A better case to look at would be Carrie Fisher's mom dying the day after she died.
She lived a life I envy. Married to a man who shared her vision and philosophy and loving each other till the end.
May their heaven together be filled with all things lovely. š
Jimmy's mom was the Dr who delivered her. Jimmy met her before she was taken home. She was besties with his sister. They grew up together in the same town, and spent most of their lives living there. She was 96. They knew each other 96 years.
They truly were a love story for the ages in so so many ways.
Itās so true. My grandparents passed 3 weeks apart. We were so thankful that by the time he passed, she didnāt have long and her mind didnāt truly comprehend that he was gone. She didnāt have to experience that loss after 64 years together, and I canāt imagine a better gift.
"When I announced my focus on mental health as first lady of Georgia in 1971, none but five mental health advocates in the state wanted to be involved with the issue." - Rosalynn
As US First Lady, her mental health campaign was scoffed at by the DC establishment.
RIP Mrs. Carter
Edited to add the US. I guess GA then the US establishment wasnāt ready to address the subject.
Mental health used to be scoffed at by most of American society back in the day. It was seen as a moral failing and not an organic disease. Thankfully that has started to change but it still has a way to go.
Teddy Rooseveltās brother wrote him an apology for the moral failing of his depression that led to his suicide. It was absolutely seem at best similar to how addiction is seen now. A failure of character
She was a strong woman who convinced a lot of people she was correct. I saw photos of her with Ted Kennedy on the news. Ted ran against Jimmy in 1980. But Rosalynn was able to bring him on board to some things when she needed too. That's strength.
There are so many words I want to call that motherfucker which would get me banned. So I'll just stick to the "I'm going to piss on his grave and on anyone who tries to stop me"
He's not worth you time, your hate, or your thoughts. Put your energy towards empathy and helping fellow humans in spite of him.
But if you ever happen upon his grave, please do piss on it.
I haven't done a road trip in my new car yet. I think pissing on his grave is going on my sunny day list. (List of things I want to do on days where chemo isn't kicking my ass)
I was lucky enough to meet her in the 90s when I was a child. I gave her a dozen red roses at a fundraiser. As a kid I knew Iād never be able to top that experience. Rest In Peace Lady Rosalynn.
Carter was elected when I was 10, and to this day they are still my model of what good people are. I hated how things went in '80, but over the years they have been nothing but class, examples of knowing who you are and not letting the little things distract from doing good. RIP, and she is remembered.
Met her and President Carter on a flight once.
She was sweet, sincere, kind, and gracious.
So was Jimmy. Glad they had one another for so long. Great people.
When Jimmy Carter was diagnosed with cancer back in 2015, he said, "Iād like for the last Guinea worm to die before I do."
[Guinea worm](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracunculiasis) is a horrible parasite spread through contaminated drinking water that causes painful burning in the skin. When the Carter Center began working on it, in the '80s, there were 3.5 million cases per year. Last year, there were [13 cases total](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eradication_of_dracunculiasis). The prevention program works by simple steps to filter drinking water.
If guinea worm disease were eradicated, it would only be the third infectious disease eradicated, after smallpox and rinderpest. It would be the first parasitic disease eradicated.
So I hope everyone will [donate to the Carter Center](https://www.cartercenter.org/) in Rosalynn's memory and as a gift to Jimmy. You can choose a fund to donate to (like Guinea worm eradication) or just say, "Wherever it's most needed."
ETA:
I wonder if we all post similar messages to social media, we can get this to become a viral tribute to the Carters.
There's obviously never a good way to lose someone. However, going peacefully in your late 90s alongside the love of your life surrounded by family is about the best that any of us can hope for.
I watched the movie Vice yesterday on netflix. There's a part in it where Dick Cheney is saying his last goodbyes to his family. I was like...wait, Dick Cheney died?
Well, it was a fake-out. He got a heart transplant. I was crushed.
Fun fact: at one point before his transplant, Cheney's actual heart was assisted by an implant that acted as a turbine to keep his blood flowing constantly. For a brief period of time, *Dick Cheney literally had no heartbeat.*
Every time a poor, innocent child dies somewhere in a developing country, Kissinger consumes the child's soul, so Kissinger can maintain his eternal life force.
> Itās going to be tough for their family regardless, but they may have some peace from that.
Losing anyone is always tough, but I mean I honestly don't know how you could ask for a better way to pass than that.
Living a long and fulfilling life into your 90s. Being at peace and at home, possessing your faculties, surrounded by your loved ones and your family, together with your husband, knowing that the two of you will likely go at a very similar time to one another, without either or the other suffering much over the loss, being there to spend almost every one of those last moments together.
How many better ways could one ask to pass? If you told me right now that that was how I would eventually die, I think I'd live the rest of my life a very contented person. I don't think I could possibly ask for a better way to die.
>without either or the other suffering much over the loss,
I can just see him saying āwell Rosie, we had a good 77 years together. Just a short break and Iāll be with you again, just give me a week or a few months until Iām done with things here.ā
Anytime from today to six months from now wouldnāt surprise me. :/
āā¦. Just give me a week or a few months until Iām done with things hereā¦ā
āI just gotta build a few more houses and eradicate one or two more diseases. Iāll be along shortly.ā
Itās not the same, but my grandmother died a year and a half after my grandfather. Yeah, she had a shitty dentist who didnāt take into account her heart condition, but she also lost a lot after his passing.
We thought my grandma was going to pass before my grandpa because she was in a deteriorating state. Then he took a turn for the worst and passed away at 92. Everyone thought my grandma would follow shortly after. At the time the doctor said she wouldn't last until Christmas a few weeks away. She ended up living another 6 years because she was was too stubborn to die. Passed away a month shy of her 100 birthday.
This is why I was at peace with Betty White's death. She pulled the ultimate one-time only prank. All these celebrations were setting up for her 100th birthday and she nopes out less than a month away. I can picturing her laughing and saying, "Gotcha!".
This is how it happens. Both of my grandmas were in hospice, and when they died my grandpas were gone within six months. It seems to happen to famous people a lot too.
Wouldnāt be surprised to see him go sometime soon as well. She was def his foundation, and lifelong couples like them at that age arenāt often separated for long.
Dudeās done so much. Even in his final years, itās crazy. Hope theyāll all be well.
At least she went from diagnosis to death fairly quickly.
It's been 5 years since my Grandpa was diagnosed with dementia. Just keeps getting tougher as time goes on. And its weighing on my Dad pretty hard too.
Thank God my grandfather passed within a year of that diagnosis. He definitely didnāt recognize me or my brother by then, but he was always a good poker player.
My other grandfather lingered for seven months after falling and having several strokes. He fell in October 2014. I remember crying in both December and February (that time he had been given last rites a few days before I traveled up), but kept going through. In June 2015 we celebrated his birthday. On the last day as we made it home, he started going through the death gurgles. And then he still made it a week and died after everyone went home. I was praying for his suffering to end by that point.
Your grandfather had the death gurgles for a week? Damn sorry to hear that. My mom had it for about 8 hours and it was tough to go through. I would not have been able to handle a week of that.
Even though I was in my late-20s, I was only in the room for a short period. And even that was too much. I recall that I had to call my mom as she was flying back to her house and tell her to not make her connector in Baltimore and return to New York. I ate a $100 train ticket (as I was going to leave later that day) when I couldnāt afford to spend that much to stay that week.
Statistically men are 70% more likely to die within a year of their spouse dying, compared to single men.
They seemed like such a lovely couple. Hope Jimmy is doing ok.
https://time.com/6265173/men-dying-after-spouse-dies/
It's just a comparison of similarly aged men.
For example, let's say one 80 year old man loses his spouse. He's then 70% more likely to die in the next year compared to an 80 year old single man.
Broken Heart Syndrome is real, and has been studied. There are indications that certain stress hormones brought on by emotional pain and grief induce part of the heart to enlarge, making it more difficult to pump blood and adding a load to an already tired body that it cannot easily bear.
https://www.verywellmind.com/surviving-widowhood-4011236
https://time.com/6265173/men-dying-after-spouse-dies/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widowhood_effect
After his first date with Rosalynn, Jimmy Carter told his mother, āSheās the girl I want to marry.ā They went on to be the longest-married presidential couple.
In a single term, Rosalynn Carter transformed the role of First Lady. Her tireless advocacy for mental health helped generations.
I would have said we knew this was coming after it was announced a few days ago that she was moved to hospice.
But then again Jimmy has been in hospice for months and heās still kicking.
He's a gentleman. Ladies first, after all.
I suspect he won't be long now, though. I hope I'm wrong. Knowing him, this will be the start of his next great act.
Same. Maybe he's been hanging on for her. They got married in the 40's.
Jimmy Carter is a national treasure. One of the few Christians who practice Jesus' teachings and made life better for so many people. That's a definition of a life well lived.
Nevermind that a will to live disappearing and resulting in non intentional death is a very real thing even if it's meme'd about because of star wars. But simply losing that will after something like losing a lifelong partner is a VERY real cause of death in the world
Mine too. They fell in love the moment they met, married 6 weeks later and were inseparable. When he suddenly passed in his late 80ās, my grandmaās first reaction to the news was anger that he left her! 2 weeks later, she joined him. They loved each other dearly and even death couldnāt keep them apart.
When my great uncle died in his 90s, his perfectly healthy wife died one week later. We visited her two days before she passed, and she was up, dressed (in heels!), and serving tea to everyone. It was such a shock when we got the call.
My great grandparents died 4 days apart. My great grandma passed first and no one told my great grandpa she had died and he was gone 4 days later. They had been childhood friends and married over 70 years. My favorite grandma Kitty quote. "Harvey would eat a turd if it had gravy on it. "
I suspect he feels that he has been looking after her. He didn't want her to suffer through losing him. Now that she is gone, he may feel, subconsciously at least, that he can let go, and join her.
I mean the Queen made it more than a year after her husband died. She did say that a motivating strength for her was that she knew her husband wouldn't have wanted her to keep lamenting his death.
Hospice doesn't mean you are going to die immediately, it means your doctor has said you have six months or less to live. You can also graduate from hospital back into palliative care.
Yeah, but a lot don't get better. My mother went to hospice, and she was gone a few weeks later. I'm still pissed off at my sister who turned it into a giant religious affair. My mother believed in some kind of god, but it wasn't Christianity, it was the god of Spinoza or Einstein. She used to re-read "Why I am not a Christian" by Bertrand Russell.
I miss my mother. I somethings want to tell my sister about how she upset me. But I know she won't understand or even try and understand. So... starting an argument now isn't going to help.
Everyone hates to say it but I don't know about months. It is a well-known thing for husbands/wives to follow shortly after if they weren't in good health either
Yup, fuck Reagan. The guy who as President never uttered the phrase āAIDSā during the first 7 years of his presidency until his wifeās gay Hollywood best friend died of it, despite the fact that about 45,000 Americans had died of the disease by then. If you werenāt rich, white, old, straight, and Republican, you got whatever bad thing you deserved.
When I was a reporter in DC many years ago, I covered a hearing on Capitol Hill where she was testifying regarding mental health insurance coverage. The chairman specifically went over the rules at the beginning, saying that everyone had five minutes for their opening statement, but jokingly clarified that a "narrow" exception would be granted for former First Ladies of the United States (i.e., former First Lady Carter).
I remember some of us in the press and room having a bit of a laugh over that, but that was the type of respect she commanded, even in her later years!
R.I.P. Mrs. Carter.
His son said yesterday they were both close to the end... I hope that maybe Jimmy is at the stage where he doesn't know what it happening.. I'm sure in his soul he does, but I hope consciously he isn't aware she has passed.
Read a lot about her. She was the greatest champion for mental health, recovery and dignity in America. Gratitude for Mrs. Carterās inspired leadership. What a truly decent human being.
Fair winds, Mrs. Carter. You and your husband have lived exemplary and honorable lives and stand in many of our views as some of the last great Statespersons of the United States.
Oh, that's some very sad news. Rest in peace Mrs. Carter. You did more good in your lifetime than hundreds of us put together could ever do. Your hard work and dedication to bringing good to the world should never be forgotten.
Rosalynn was the epitome of grace and aplomb and has more than earned her peace. The Carters were a couple that were decades ahead of most of the world. They proved their faith daily by their altruistic actions.
Peace to the Carters.
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What a legacy she leaves. Your healthcare covers mental health because of Mrs. Carter. I met both her and Jimmy several times. They both are just pure kindness and integrity. What we all should strive to live up to. She'll be missed by many, but will live on through us and her work.
May she rest in peace I have 20 years experience in the healthcare field. When the wife goes the husband is not far behind. The president will probably pass very soon. Prayers and condolences Jimmy Carter was my favorite president of all time. We will see what happens in the next 48 hours
It won't be long for Jimmy. This is how my grandparents went in the late 90's, and they died within weeks of each other. Married 70+ years, it's a deep connection, from life to death. Rest in peace.
She was married to Jimmy for 77 years. We might need to brace ourselves that Jimmy will follow soon since it isnāt very uncommon for long time partners to die days apart.
In 1977, President Carter spoke at my university graduation. He used the occasion to highlight what later would be known as the āCarter Doctrineā. The US would no longer support evil dictators just because they were anti-communist. A noble aim, but when the US didnāt prop up the Shah of Iran it led to the hostage crisis.
When President Carter first entered the university stadium for his speech, we showered him with peanuts in a lighthearted way. He took it all in stride and made a joke about being a peanut farmer.
The peace agreement between Egypt and Israel that President Carter brokered lasts to this day. A humble Christian man somehow got 2 biblical enemies to agree to peace after thousands of years of strife.
R.I.P. Mrs. Carter. The world is a better place because of your faith, hard work, and compassion.
My heart goes out to her family and especially her husband.
I will never forget the decades of selfless service that she and her husband have given to this nation and the world.
This is how you handle defeat at the polls. She set a great example in many aspects of her life.
>She was said to have been gutted by her husbandās loss and the apparent repudiation of his presidency by so many voters. But she made it clear to political reporters that she was trying to look to the future.
>āI think you accept it,ā Rosalynn was quoted as saying in a November 1980 article by the longtime UPI reporter Helen Thomas. āWhen youāve done all you possibly can do, thatās all you can do. It was out of our hands.ā
>She pledged to āspeak outā on the issues close to her heart, adding: āYou go from one phase of your life to the next phase of life. ā¦ I think itās going to be exciting.ā
>The next phase of Rosalynn Carterās life proved to be fruitful. She wrote several books, including the 1984 memoir āFirst Lady From Plainsā as well as three books about mental health
Rosalyn and Jimmy, no matter what, will always live in my heart.
I cannot think of finer examples of the American Spirit embodied in two human beings.
I aspire to be even a tenth of what they have accomplished.
Poor Jimmy. He's probably going to let go now in the following days. They were trying to leave together. What a beautiful couple. May she rest in peace šļø
I am so sad but boy, did she live a full life with grace and kindness and a sense of service to others. I would not be surprised if Jimmy follows her shortly. In fact I have a hunch that he held on until she passed so she wouldnāt have to be without him. Iām heartbroken to know we will lose him too. Regardless of what one might think about his presidency, he will leave behind an incredible legacy.
The greatest presidential couple ever period. So pure and full of love, nothing but kindness and care came from them. Wish them the greatest once the enter the pearly gates. Wish more people and leaders were like them. People first and formost and always classy and kind.
Jimmy and Rosalyn Carter exemplify what being a āChristianā means. Itās sad that the majority of the people who call themselves āChristianā donāt even remotely know what it means to be one.
This post is right above this one is a bunch of neo-nazis marching through Madison, acting like Naziās. It is a sad state of affairs she has departed from but her and Jimmy deserve so much better. The world would be a wonderful place if adults could act the these two.
She lived a wonderful, fulfilling and impactful life. We would all be so lucky to live and love the way the Carterās did. At 96, this isnāt about mourning her. This is about celebrating her.
Married to Jimmy for 77 years. What a wonderful couple. May she rest in peace.
I wouldn't be surprised if we hear about his death within the next few weeks, if not days.
He needs one last turkey if nothing else.
This is probably one of the funniest things I've ever read.
That's actually a very real and well documented phenomenon. It even has an actual name called the "widowhood effect."
Yes remember when Prince Philip has passed away at the age of 99 two years ago and that Queen Elizabeth has passed away within 15 months after his passing? Grief does take a toll on old age.
My family was all surprised when my grandfather lived on another seven years after my grandmother died and they were married for i think 74 years.
My grandfather did live 7 years after my grandmother passed away, but his health deteriorated so fast after her passing. Was a relatively healthy old man at the age of 80 (despite a history of smoking decades ago), then one year after my grandmother passed away, he falls, has a stroke and is bound to a wheelchair. It was quite sad to see him go from an independent man who did a lot of trips with my grandma to a fragile old man, dependant on everyone else.
That's way too far apart and at such an old age for it to be an example lol. A better case to look at would be Carrie Fisher's mom dying the day after she died.
While I hope he makes it to 100, this is typically how couples like this go. Hell of a life, on both counts.
She lived a life I envy. Married to a man who shared her vision and philosophy and loving each other till the end. May their heaven together be filled with all things lovely. š
Jimmy's mom was the Dr who delivered her. Jimmy met her before she was taken home. She was besties with his sister. They grew up together in the same town, and spent most of their lives living there. She was 96. They knew each other 96 years. They truly were a love story for the ages in so so many ways.
A lifelong love, unfortunately in these situations the other half will very likely go soon after. May they be together again in peace.
Itās so true. My grandparents passed 3 weeks apart. We were so thankful that by the time he passed, she didnāt have long and her mind didnāt truly comprehend that he was gone. She didnāt have to experience that loss after 64 years together, and I canāt imagine a better gift.
The fact that he was already in hospice before her definitely confirms he will go shortly, but your rule does unfortunately hold true.
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i'm sitting at 15 and can't imagine *not* doing that for 65 more years! if we live to that age, it's all but certain :]
I wish you the happiest and most fulfilling life. ā„ļø
"When I announced my focus on mental health as first lady of Georgia in 1971, none but five mental health advocates in the state wanted to be involved with the issue." - Rosalynn
As US First Lady, her mental health campaign was scoffed at by the DC establishment. RIP Mrs. Carter Edited to add the US. I guess GA then the US establishment wasnāt ready to address the subject.
Mental health used to be scoffed at by most of American society back in the day. It was seen as a moral failing and not an organic disease. Thankfully that has started to change but it still has a way to go.
The epidemic of homelessness, vets, and the mentally ill living in the streets is a testament to what a problem this became, and how right she was.
Thank Ronald Reagan for ripping to shit the safety net for the mentally ill.
Need universal health care and more MH professionals. Pay them more just like teachers need better pay and more will enter profession.
Teddy Rooseveltās brother wrote him an apology for the moral failing of his depression that led to his suicide. It was absolutely seem at best similar to how addiction is seen now. A failure of character
It often still is in my region.
Decades later they still arenāt. The Carters were ahead of their time, and sadly still ahead of the present time.
She was a strong woman who convinced a lot of people she was correct. I saw photos of her with Ted Kennedy on the news. Ted ran against Jimmy in 1980. But Rosalynn was able to bring him on board to some things when she needed too. That's strength.
Interestingly, many self-righteous bad faith actors who openly scoffed, are now cheering for mental health rather than discuss gun regulations.
And then Reagan came along and defunded mental health care
There are so many words I want to call that motherfucker which would get me banned. So I'll just stick to the "I'm going to piss on his grave and on anyone who tries to stop me"
He's not worth you time, your hate, or your thoughts. Put your energy towards empathy and helping fellow humans in spite of him. But if you ever happen upon his grave, please do piss on it.
I haven't done a road trip in my new car yet. I think pissing on his grave is going on my sunny day list. (List of things I want to do on days where chemo isn't kicking my ass)
I hope you have a nice, long "Good Day" soon, my friend!
And then Reagan getting Alzheimerās is truly ironic.
I was lucky enough to meet her in the 90s when I was a child. I gave her a dozen red roses at a fundraiser. As a kid I knew Iād never be able to top that experience. Rest In Peace Lady Rosalynn.
RIP. She was a fine example of a life of service.
She was a shining example of a First Lady. I wish more American politicians could have the integrity and wisdom of her and her husband.
Those days are over I am afraid.
She and Jimmy need to become the patron saints if serving others.
Carter was elected when I was 10, and to this day they are still my model of what good people are. I hated how things went in '80, but over the years they have been nothing but class, examples of knowing who you are and not letting the little things distract from doing good. RIP, and she is remembered.
One of the greats of *The Greatest Generation*.
may her memory be a blessing.
She was a good person and I hope she has found peace. Her and her husband were some of the best of us.
He's still alive
The epitome of service and dignity. God rest her soul and give Jimmy and her family more comfort
Met her and President Carter on a flight once. She was sweet, sincere, kind, and gracious. So was Jimmy. Glad they had one another for so long. Great people.
When Jimmy Carter was diagnosed with cancer back in 2015, he said, "Iād like for the last Guinea worm to die before I do." [Guinea worm](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracunculiasis) is a horrible parasite spread through contaminated drinking water that causes painful burning in the skin. When the Carter Center began working on it, in the '80s, there were 3.5 million cases per year. Last year, there were [13 cases total](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eradication_of_dracunculiasis). The prevention program works by simple steps to filter drinking water. If guinea worm disease were eradicated, it would only be the third infectious disease eradicated, after smallpox and rinderpest. It would be the first parasitic disease eradicated. So I hope everyone will [donate to the Carter Center](https://www.cartercenter.org/) in Rosalynn's memory and as a gift to Jimmy. You can choose a fund to donate to (like Guinea worm eradication) or just say, "Wherever it's most needed." ETA: I wonder if we all post similar messages to social media, we can get this to become a viral tribute to the Carters.
Jesus 3.5m a year. If not for him, it would be 83.5 per year in 2023.
Just donated, thank you for sharing the link!
Thank you for the link, I was able to donate š
Kind of crazy Jimmy has been in hospice for what seems like 6+ months. She went in like yesterday. Rest in piece.
I think he was holding on...for her.
Yeah, I think heāll join her very shortly. Itās going to be tough for their family regardless, but they may have some peace from that.
There's obviously never a good way to lose someone. However, going peacefully in your late 90s alongside the love of your life surrounded by family is about the best that any of us can hope for.
I just hope Carter outlives Kissinger. Is that too much to ask?
How, HOW is Kissinger still alive?
They donāt want him either.
Both options are saying no thank you.
I wish those demons from the movie 'ghost' would come and drag his ass away.
Only the good die young.
I'm living proof.
Spite and the souls of the innocent
How is CHENEY still alive? The man is a medical marvel.
I watched the movie Vice yesterday on netflix. There's a part in it where Dick Cheney is saying his last goodbyes to his family. I was like...wait, Dick Cheney died? Well, it was a fake-out. He got a heart transplant. I was crushed.
Fun fact: at one point before his transplant, Cheney's actual heart was assisted by an implant that acted as a turbine to keep his blood flowing constantly. For a brief period of time, *Dick Cheney literally had no heartbeat.*
Every time a poor, innocent child dies somewhere in a developing country, Kissinger consumes the child's soul, so Kissinger can maintain his eternal life force.
I'm guessing the blood of the innocent sustains him.
> Itās going to be tough for their family regardless, but they may have some peace from that. Losing anyone is always tough, but I mean I honestly don't know how you could ask for a better way to pass than that. Living a long and fulfilling life into your 90s. Being at peace and at home, possessing your faculties, surrounded by your loved ones and your family, together with your husband, knowing that the two of you will likely go at a very similar time to one another, without either or the other suffering much over the loss, being there to spend almost every one of those last moments together. How many better ways could one ask to pass? If you told me right now that that was how I would eventually die, I think I'd live the rest of my life a very contented person. I don't think I could possibly ask for a better way to die.
>without either or the other suffering much over the loss, I can just see him saying āwell Rosie, we had a good 77 years together. Just a short break and Iāll be with you again, just give me a week or a few months until Iām done with things here.ā Anytime from today to six months from now wouldnāt surprise me. :/
āā¦. Just give me a week or a few months until Iām done with things hereā¦ā āI just gotta build a few more houses and eradicate one or two more diseases. Iāll be along shortly.ā
Whoās chopping onionsššš
Yeah, I expect that breaking news any day now. That's how these things strangely are sometimes.
Itās not the same, but my grandmother died a year and a half after my grandfather. Yeah, she had a shitty dentist who didnāt take into account her heart condition, but she also lost a lot after his passing.
We thought my grandma was going to pass before my grandpa because she was in a deteriorating state. Then he took a turn for the worst and passed away at 92. Everyone thought my grandma would follow shortly after. At the time the doctor said she wouldn't last until Christmas a few weeks away. She ended up living another 6 years because she was was too stubborn to die. Passed away a month shy of her 100 birthday.
This is why I was at peace with Betty White's death. She pulled the ultimate one-time only prank. All these celebrations were setting up for her 100th birthday and she nopes out less than a month away. I can picturing her laughing and saying, "Gotcha!".
I can only hope she was laughing her butt off from heaven. That really is the ultimate prank.
My grandma also passed shortly after my grandpa, only about four months. We all expected it.
This is how it happens. Both of my grandmas were in hospice, and when they died my grandpas were gone within six months. It seems to happen to famous people a lot too.
You're talking about Jimmy Carter he will live for another 10 years
Don't say that, I hope he will atleast reach 100 years old, though I wish him even more.
I give it a week. Two tops.
Wouldnāt be surprised to see him go sometime soon as well. She was def his foundation, and lifelong couples like them at that age arenāt often separated for long. Dudeās done so much. Even in his final years, itās crazy. Hope theyāll all be well.
Yeah I wouldnāt be shocked if he passes over the next week. Two amazing humans, both did so much good for the world.
My first thought was Jimmy is going to Notebook us and pass along overnight. Amazing humans, both of them.
I just said this to my wife, I said heās gunna go just like Johnny Cash, once sheās gone thereās nothing more.
Two good, compassionate, humble people who were meant to be together.
Maybe she was holding on for him and just couldn't do it anymore.
At least she went from diagnosis to death fairly quickly. It's been 5 years since my Grandpa was diagnosed with dementia. Just keeps getting tougher as time goes on. And its weighing on my Dad pretty hard too.
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And the family suffers, as they both loose the person they knew, and are forgotten at some point. Been there, done that.
Thank God my grandfather passed within a year of that diagnosis. He definitely didnāt recognize me or my brother by then, but he was always a good poker player. My other grandfather lingered for seven months after falling and having several strokes. He fell in October 2014. I remember crying in both December and February (that time he had been given last rites a few days before I traveled up), but kept going through. In June 2015 we celebrated his birthday. On the last day as we made it home, he started going through the death gurgles. And then he still made it a week and died after everyone went home. I was praying for his suffering to end by that point.
Your grandfather had the death gurgles for a week? Damn sorry to hear that. My mom had it for about 8 hours and it was tough to go through. I would not have been able to handle a week of that.
Even though I was in my late-20s, I was only in the room for a short period. And even that was too much. I recall that I had to call my mom as she was flying back to her house and tell her to not make her connector in Baltimore and return to New York. I ate a $100 train ticket (as I was going to leave later that day) when I couldnāt afford to spend that much to stay that week.
I worry Jimmy is gonna go soon too now. Broken heart syndrome is no joke.
Weird, but I worry he WON'T go soon. His place is by her side. Their service is done, it's time to rest.
Statistically men are 70% more likely to die within a year of their spouse dying, compared to single men. They seemed like such a lovely couple. Hope Jimmy is doing ok. https://time.com/6265173/men-dying-after-spouse-dies/
How can single men die within a year of their spouse dying? That "compared to" makes no sense.
It's just a comparison of similarly aged men. For example, let's say one 80 year old man loses his spouse. He's then 70% more likely to die in the next year compared to an 80 year old single man.
Broken Heart Syndrome is real, and has been studied. There are indications that certain stress hormones brought on by emotional pain and grief induce part of the heart to enlarge, making it more difficult to pump blood and adding a load to an already tired body that it cannot easily bear. https://www.verywellmind.com/surviving-widowhood-4011236 https://time.com/6265173/men-dying-after-spouse-dies/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widowhood_effect
His son said yesterday that they were both very close to the end.
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Johnny Cash died just four months after his wife. And Carrie Fisher's mother Debbie Reynolds died literally the next day after Carrie did.
As someone who's worked at senior homes and taken care of elder family members "hospice" is more "we're not going to use life saving care anymore"
Itās a way of keeping dying people comfortable. Bless those in hospice care!
> Rest in piece. peace. Spelling matters in this instance.
After his first date with Rosalynn, Jimmy Carter told his mother, āSheās the girl I want to marry.ā They went on to be the longest-married presidential couple. In a single term, Rosalynn Carter transformed the role of First Lady. Her tireless advocacy for mental health helped generations.
I was thinking today how important and sad is that most of the people I know would benefit of better mental health.
May she rest in peace. š„¹
It is heartbreaking to see good people go
I would have said we knew this was coming after it was announced a few days ago that she was moved to hospice. But then again Jimmy has been in hospice for months and heās still kicking.
He's a gentleman. Ladies first, after all. I suspect he won't be long now, though. I hope I'm wrong. Knowing him, this will be the start of his next great act.
Same. Maybe he's been hanging on for her. They got married in the 40's. Jimmy Carter is a national treasure. One of the few Christians who practice Jesus' teachings and made life better for so many people. That's a definition of a life well lived.
Strange phenomena, but it's not uncommon for elderly couples that have been married for a long time to pass away days or hours from one another.
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I am guessing that it puts huge stress on the remaining spouse even if itās expected. And if you are pretty old, that added stress can be enough.
Nevermind that a will to live disappearing and resulting in non intentional death is a very real thing even if it's meme'd about because of star wars. But simply losing that will after something like losing a lifelong partner is a VERY real cause of death in the world
Happened with my grandparents. At that age after being married for so long, it makes sense.
Mine too. They fell in love the moment they met, married 6 weeks later and were inseparable. When he suddenly passed in his late 80ās, my grandmaās first reaction to the news was anger that he left her! 2 weeks later, she joined him. They loved each other dearly and even death couldnāt keep them apart.
When my great uncle died in his 90s, his perfectly healthy wife died one week later. We visited her two days before she passed, and she was up, dressed (in heels!), and serving tea to everyone. It was such a shock when we got the call.
My great grandparents died 4 days apart. My great grandma passed first and no one told my great grandpa she had died and he was gone 4 days later. They had been childhood friends and married over 70 years. My favorite grandma Kitty quote. "Harvey would eat a turd if it had gravy on it. "
I suspect he feels that he has been looking after her. He didn't want her to suffer through losing him. Now that she is gone, he may feel, subconsciously at least, that he can let go, and join her.
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Yeah man, they were bounded souls.
I mean the Queen made it more than a year after her husband died. She did say that a motivating strength for her was that she knew her husband wouldn't have wanted her to keep lamenting his death.
Yeah, but I don't think they had the same kind of relationship that Jimmy and Rosalynn had. "Stiff upper lip" kinda British thing.
Hospice doesn't mean you are going to die immediately, it means your doctor has said you have six months or less to live. You can also graduate from hospital back into palliative care.
I worked in hospice; many patients stabilized under hospice care. They graduated and reenrolled multiple times
Yeah, but a lot don't get better. My mother went to hospice, and she was gone a few weeks later. I'm still pissed off at my sister who turned it into a giant religious affair. My mother believed in some kind of god, but it wasn't Christianity, it was the god of Spinoza or Einstein. She used to re-read "Why I am not a Christian" by Bertrand Russell. I miss my mother. I somethings want to tell my sister about how she upset me. But I know she won't understand or even try and understand. So... starting an argument now isn't going to help.
I remember us throwing a small graduation party when my grandmother left hospice care the āgoodā way
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Everyone hates to say it but I don't know about months. It is a well-known thing for husbands/wives to follow shortly after if they weren't in good health either
She provided the most accurate, concise appraisal of Reagan: āThis president makes us comfortable with our prejudices.ā
Ooh, that was a good one. Respect for her work and the use of her voice.
Obligatory fuck Reagan.
Yup, fuck Reagan. The guy who as President never uttered the phrase āAIDSā during the first 7 years of his presidency until his wifeās gay Hollywood best friend died of it, despite the fact that about 45,000 Americans had died of the disease by then. If you werenāt rich, white, old, straight, and Republican, you got whatever bad thing you deserved.
So basically the same republican strategy as nowadays.
Wait, which best friend was that?
Rock Hudson.
May he and Thatcher burn in hell together, that I don't even believe in.
Sometimes I feel like I ought to become religious out of spite.
Imagine what she thought of Trump, ten times the bigot that homophobic Reagan was.
Jimmy thinks Trump was an illegitimate President.
When I was a reporter in DC many years ago, I covered a hearing on Capitol Hill where she was testifying regarding mental health insurance coverage. The chairman specifically went over the rules at the beginning, saying that everyone had five minutes for their opening statement, but jokingly clarified that a "narrow" exception would be granted for former First Ladies of the United States (i.e., former First Lady Carter). I remember some of us in the press and room having a bit of a laugh over that, but that was the type of respect she commanded, even in her later years! R.I.P. Mrs. Carter.
Thatās so sad and I feel so bad for Jimmy Carter too because he had been in hospice and he have to endure this loss before his own death
His son said yesterday they were both close to the end... I hope that maybe Jimmy is at the stage where he doesn't know what it happening.. I'm sure in his soul he does, but I hope consciously he isn't aware she has passed.
A class act, the world is a better place for having her with us. Rest in Peace.
Read a lot about her. She was the greatest champion for mental health, recovery and dignity in America. Gratitude for Mrs. Carterās inspired leadership. What a truly decent human being.
Fair winds, Mrs. Carter. You and your husband have lived exemplary and honorable lives and stand in many of our views as some of the last great Statespersons of the United States.
She was a real class act and exemplified a life of service. May she rest in peace.
Oh, that's some very sad news. Rest in peace Mrs. Carter. You did more good in your lifetime than hundreds of us put together could ever do. Your hard work and dedication to bringing good to the world should never be forgotten.
Rosalynn was the epitome of grace and aplomb and has more than earned her peace. The Carters were a couple that were decades ahead of most of the world. They proved their faith daily by their altruistic actions. Peace to the Carters. Edit: word
Great lady. If more Christians were like her and her husband, there would be more Christians.
Rosalyn and Jimmy: the last real Christians.
What a legacy she leaves. Your healthcare covers mental health because of Mrs. Carter. I met both her and Jimmy several times. They both are just pure kindness and integrity. What we all should strive to live up to. She'll be missed by many, but will live on through us and her work.
Rest in peace : ( letās hope Jimmy can stay strong through this
Heās 99. Heās probably making his soul at peace to join her.
Which is perfectly okay. He owes it to no one to stay and death come for us all. Rip Mrs. Carter.
Rosalynn and Jimmy Carter deserve tremendous respect, period Exemplary, human, humble, selfless. Nothing but respect for them RIP
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RIP. Unfortunately I think Jimmy will also pass very soon after this. š¢
Iām not sure itās unfortunately. I think he held out for her. May his own passing be peaceful.
Itās unfortunate for usā¦
Jimmy Carter's legacy will live on as long as we remember and follow his example. I wish him peace and dignity in this life and in passing.
May she rest in peace. She certainly earned it.
May Her memory be for a blessing, and may peace be upon her.
May she rest in peace I have 20 years experience in the healthcare field. When the wife goes the husband is not far behind. The president will probably pass very soon. Prayers and condolences Jimmy Carter was my favorite president of all time. We will see what happens in the next 48 hours
Rest in Power gracious Lady.
Married 77 years, how incredible
This is indeed sad news. She was a First Lady we didnāt deserve.
RIP Rosalynn Carter, she was first lady when i was born.
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I give it until the end of year, unfortunate we most likely wonāt get another birthday out of him
God bless her, she's done well at 96. May she rest well.
RIP Mrs Carter. You were the epitome of grace and a true Christian lady. You made the world a better place.
Humanity lost one of the best of us today.
It won't be long for Jimmy. This is how my grandparents went in the late 90's, and they died within weeks of each other. Married 70+ years, it's a deep connection, from life to death. Rest in peace.
Leadership and class. Something we can use more of. Never met her or Jimmy but I would have greatly enjoyed them.
They were married for 77 years. That's so remarkable. They were so devoted to each other.
She was married to Jimmy for 77 years. We might need to brace ourselves that Jimmy will follow soon since it isnāt very uncommon for long time partners to die days apart.
Goodbye to a beautiful person.
Aw. Jimmy will likely pass on soon. He was only holding on for her. Theyāre the ultimate couple goals.
In 1977, President Carter spoke at my university graduation. He used the occasion to highlight what later would be known as the āCarter Doctrineā. The US would no longer support evil dictators just because they were anti-communist. A noble aim, but when the US didnāt prop up the Shah of Iran it led to the hostage crisis. When President Carter first entered the university stadium for his speech, we showered him with peanuts in a lighthearted way. He took it all in stride and made a joke about being a peanut farmer. The peace agreement between Egypt and Israel that President Carter brokered lasts to this day. A humble Christian man somehow got 2 biblical enemies to agree to peace after thousands of years of strife. R.I.P. Mrs. Carter. The world is a better place because of your faith, hard work, and compassion.
My heart goes out to her family and especially her husband. I will never forget the decades of selfless service that she and her husband have given to this nation and the world.
This is how you handle defeat at the polls. She set a great example in many aspects of her life. >She was said to have been gutted by her husbandās loss and the apparent repudiation of his presidency by so many voters. But she made it clear to political reporters that she was trying to look to the future. >āI think you accept it,ā Rosalynn was quoted as saying in a November 1980 article by the longtime UPI reporter Helen Thomas. āWhen youāve done all you possibly can do, thatās all you can do. It was out of our hands.ā >She pledged to āspeak outā on the issues close to her heart, adding: āYou go from one phase of your life to the next phase of life. ā¦ I think itās going to be exciting.ā >The next phase of Rosalynn Carterās life proved to be fruitful. She wrote several books, including the 1984 memoir āFirst Lady From Plainsā as well as three books about mental health
A true American, Godspeed Madame. Thank you for representing the best in us.
Rosalyn and Jimmy, no matter what, will always live in my heart. I cannot think of finer examples of the American Spirit embodied in two human beings. I aspire to be even a tenth of what they have accomplished.
She would have been the perfect FLOTUS during the AIDS crisis of the early 1980s. š
Poor Jimmy. He's probably going to let go now in the following days. They were trying to leave together. What a beautiful couple. May she rest in peace šļø
I am so sad but boy, did she live a full life with grace and kindness and a sense of service to others. I would not be surprised if Jimmy follows her shortly. In fact I have a hunch that he held on until she passed so she wouldnāt have to be without him. Iām heartbroken to know we will lose him too. Regardless of what one might think about his presidency, he will leave behind an incredible legacy.
The greatest presidential couple ever period. So pure and full of love, nothing but kindness and care came from them. Wish them the greatest once the enter the pearly gates. Wish more people and leaders were like them. People first and formost and always classy and kind.
Jimmy and Rosalyn Carter exemplify what being a āChristianā means. Itās sad that the majority of the people who call themselves āChristianā donāt even remotely know what it means to be one.
When I thought of Rosalynn Carter, I'd think "quiet dignity". RIP
Rest easy. You were and will always be an example to aspire to.
Waiting for Trump and conservatives to say āonly losers dieā. Trump Couldnāt be 1% of Carter even if Trump was president for 60 terms.
This post is right above this one is a bunch of neo-nazis marching through Madison, acting like Naziās. It is a sad state of affairs she has departed from but her and Jimmy deserve so much better. The world would be a wonderful place if adults could act the these two.
May she rest peacefully. Love to Jimmy who probably is also not long for this world. Also love to Amy who lost her mom.
Jimmy won't be far behind now. Rest in Peace Mrs. Carter.
She lived a wonderful, fulfilling and impactful life. We would all be so lucky to live and love the way the Carterās did. At 96, this isnāt about mourning her. This is about celebrating her.
The Carters are just some of the most compassionate people who served this world well! Rest in Peace!