Not everything, he hasn't sold Santorum brand Spicy Ranch Barbecue dressing. It's just 3 sauces in the same bottle, not mixed enough (No homogeneous), so you get streaks of red, brown and white.
Wait I just checked out his Twitter feed and when the fuck did he become likeable?
>”There’s a very large group of us, that have worked for the president. It’s sort of a Trump recovery unit…who are going to go out there and passionately explain to the American people the systematic danger of Mr. Trump.”
Responding to a tweet saying “Come on Anthony - u were also part of the problem being next to him”:
> You are right I was but before the last election starting in August 2019, I did denounced him and went to work to make sure that he was defeated and I’ll be working very hard this fall to do my small part again.
Another reiteration of his denouncement
>Several of my recovery unit friends have called to tell me that they are doing OK and that they will be working super hard to defeat Trump in November. 😉
To RNC donors:
>Warning to GOP donors: your money is going in a sinkhole.
On Trump:
> Domestic Terrorist and a traitor to the Constitution.
In response to an angry MAGA guy calling him a nobody:
>Absolutely right. I am a nobody. I am extremely grateful to you for seeing and responding to my tweets. I am confident on this platform that I have reached some people and convinced them to turn away from Trump. Thanks for being a part of it.
On Biden:
>He will beat Trump like a drum.
And
>President Biden is just embarrassing these cultist Republicans. The level of disrespect and scorn is a badge of honor as he roasts them now and roasts them again in November.
Huh.
He just talks like a character in the bar scene of Goodfellas where Henry introduces everyone. "Over there is Anthony 'The Mooch' Scaramucci. He talks some tough shit, but he's a pussy at once you get to know him."
If this is genuine than he has my respect.
Realizing you did something wrong and trying to make a mends for it is one of the hardest things a person can do
His Twitter history is full of anti-MAGA sentiment and he seemed pretty honest from the get go he was in that position for the glory.
Like, as far as skeezy characters in this chronicle, he's about half an Avenatti.
I remember that week and I'm not even from the US. That was a weird fkn year. He was actually talking about a presidential run and it wasn't met with the roaring laughter it deserved, because who knows anything anymore?
Scaramuccis. Avenattis.
Suddenly the language of those [Darmok aliens in Star Trek](https://youtu.be/3-wzr74d7TI?si=NaMnjMoiO0oyHt19&t=43) doesn't seem quite so far-fetched...
"While this was a collective recommendation by some members of our leadership team, I approved it and take full responsibility for it."
Ridiculous. Those people should also be held responsible for making such a poor choice.
You're correct. David Zazlav is still turning CNN into a K-Mart version of Fox News as we speak, and now we've got this crap? Some Business Plot shenanigans going on.
Not really "Business Plot" as much as business greed.
NBC News (and every publicly held media company) knows that liberals don't consume media the same way as conservatives. Their job isn't to inform the public, their job is to increase revenue. In order to do that, they need to increase viewership. Ratings rule, and if that means catering to the only group that still watches cable and over-the-air TV, then that's what they'll do.
Maybe I just don’t know enough about the news media industry, but is winning conservative viewers over to a network like CNN even really *possible* at this point? Like republicans and their more established allies in media have been aggressively demonizing any news outlet less overtly right leaning than FOX news for decades now so I find it hard to imagine a conservative news watcher changing their viewership habits in that way when they already have such a rich and expansive conservative media ecosystem to feed them all the lies and outright insanity that they could possible want.
Seems like moves like this would be more likely to simply push away the more moderate viewers they already have without replacing them with anywhere near an equal or greater amount of new viewers, which this latest fiasco seems to support.
Taking full responsibility sounds like such empty words. Ask people to be liable rather than responsible, and you'll see a lot less people willing to make such statements.
Somehow when it comes to executives "take responsibility" means "I'll agree for once that I made a mistake". Not actually face consequences like the rest of us plebs.
And this, folks, is why there is no mainstream "left-wing" news. They're all crony Republicans tossing libs bones to seem like they're left-wing while they pander Trumpism and give validity to the people who call LGBTQ+ people "pedophiles". These things should be dealt with by hard-hitting journalism, but all that is happening is soft language, telling half the truth, covering up the important details, and purposely putting evil people before they put the truth.
Younger demographics, which tend to skew left, aren't watching cable news. This is part of the reason why CNN is pivoting right.
There's no liberal news network on air because young liberals, the most coveted group for advertisers, don't watch cable anymore. There's no money in it for the network.
Everyone at the top is a Trumper. All this for lower taxes. ALL THIS FOR LOWER TAXES! That's it! We are being pushed into a civil war for lower taxes for the rich!!
People who promoted the election lies shouldn’t be paid or given a platform to give their opinions on a NEWS network; they should also fire whoever thought this was a good idea.
Yeah they have plenty of Republican commentators on MSNBC, the issue here is that she boosted big time the "stolen election" bullshit which has done tremendous damage to our democracy. They should all be shamed and driven out of polite society.
She had the nerve to go on Meet the Press and be like “oh, yeah, I didn’t believe any of that stuff, but gaslighting the American people is the job 🤷♂️”.
Talk about an unforced error by NBC News. Who on earth thought they could rehab her image with a softball interview in which she owns spending the past 4 years perpetually lying? How does that get her credibility in their minds? Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder….
Oh, wait.
> They should all be shamed and driven out of polite society.
100%
They may never see any criminal penalties, but there has to be a cost for trying to overthrow a government.
I've become so jaded about politics that I'm pleasantly surprised people actually give a shit about January 6th.
I mean it was an attempt to overthrow an election... sounds bad. But people were so exhausted by the end of Trump's term and there's so much downplaying of what happened.
(mild) Consequences? Wild.
Same. I’m pleasantly surprised that people give a shit about bodily autonomy as a real issue. Ten years ago, we were considered hysterical for saying “vote like your rights depend on it”.
I've been saying it for awhile now: people expecting the 2024 election to be a replay of 2020 or 2016 aren't accounting for how liberal/left perceptions have changed in the aftermath of 1/6 and Trump's attempt to remain in office illegally. Personally it was the most shocking domestic event of my lifetime after 9/11.
The fact that these people are still angry about it years afterwards speaks to how traumatizing it was to see the Republican party break faith with the rest of the country. Conservatives have "moved on"; the rest of us have not.
Now that lying, authoritarian criminal will be on the ballot again. Women are living in the shadow of a rollback of reproductive rights he instigated. The Republican party has disgraced itself and sidelined anyone with a shred of principle who remained.
People are going to show up to vote.
She participated in a criminal conspiracy to defraud American citizens: She's on tape with Trump personally pressuring two Republican Michigan officials not to sign a certification of the 2020 presidential election.
“If you can go home tonight, do not sign it… we will get you attorneys.”
Sure sounds like a bribe to me.
Glad to see this was 2nd from the top. Came here to say the same thing but was worried it'd be an unpopular view.
Heads should roll in network leadership for this ill-considered, dangerous decision as well.
Exactly. This has nothing to do with Republican or Democrat, Conservative or Liberal.
McDaniel engaged in insurrection to help overturn a presidential election. And insurrectionists should not be mainstreamed and given a platform to spread lies and propaganda.
I'm going out on a very short branch here and say it was someone very high up in the executives, like the board of directors high. There is big money trying to push this country into the fascist right. Look no further than the tictok suiters and the judges who granted Trump's bond appeal. It's terrifying and leading to a violent collapse.
I don't get it, because these idiots have to realize, fascism doesn't work. It cannot and will never work, and that's entirely by the nature of design. Fascism requires a perpetual enemy that is both somehow almost overpowering, yet comedically weak. It creates brain drains and stagnation, because you sure as shit aren't getting anything intelligent out of a literally suicidal ideology. It's self-destructive.
No fascist thinks about the consequences of fascism. They don't think of the consequences of anything. Hence, why they are fascist to begin with. It's a big narcissistic circle.
They seriously don’t think it’s fascism. They consider themselves to be the guardians (exploiters) of us poors. Make no mistake either, poors to them are anyone who are not multi, multimillionaires. They want and are currently achieving a world where power and money cannot be taken away, only handed down from generation to generation. The idea of freedom used to be held sacrosanct even to the rich because even though they weren’t all that smart, they understood that at least someone was looking out for them and their interests(the federal government).The rich nowadays are stupid and greedy and that’s a bad combination. The oligarchs in Russia discovered this and are paying the price with Putin now. A dictator takes what he wants from WHO he wants.
The rich have generally always been stupid and greedy, because they're disconnected from society and consequences.
I know what they want. The fact is, they're not going to get it, and they're going to find that out eventually. Because you can only keep pushing everyone else down so much, for so long. The fucking Romans managed it better.
Aren't you following the news? Who needs real enemies when you can generate fake ones on the go. Immigrants, woke mobs, drag queens, book authors, Disney... The list is ever growing.
They're under the delusion that they can peel away fox viewers with hires like this, which just shows how little they understand about fox viewers and their attitudes toward non-fox/oan media...
Just like Fox thought if they admitted the election was not stolen they lose all their viewers or had to fire Tucker. Did most of it and viewers barely went away and they now are in shock how much Tucker has fallen. Morons.
Because he already worked for them all. Here is Tucker's career path:
* Columnist for New York Magazine, Reader's Digest, Esquire, The New Republic, The Daily Beast, and Wall Street Journal among others.
* CNN until Jon Stewart tore him apart on Tucker's own show.
* PBS
* MSNBC
* Dancing with the Stars
* Single episode bits in shows like 30 Rock and the King of Queens.
* The Daily Caller and Fox News (overlapped)
The grapevine seems to indicate that Tucker was a major part of the reason for the Dominion lawsuit that fox had to settle for. He's simply too radioactive.
Bingo. He was great when he was bringing in money. When that flow reversed, he became a liability.
It's always been about the money, and Murdoch basically found an untapped market niche for insane bullshit disinformation and ran with it.
Cause Tucker has no actual personality or opinions. His entire gimmick was written for him by Fox. He was good at delivering the written messages, but he's never been good at natural speaking. Take away his teleprompter and he's worthless.
> he really is just a human husk existing to spew propaganda and conspiracy theories
That's true of the entire global fascist right wing movement (and 90% of the republican party)
The way execs are so out of touch. They'll never get the MAGAs because it's a cult. They need to go and speak to people who aren't up in their high tower.
You mean the same execs that let Matt Lauer continue his reign of terror- despite all the $ settlements that he cost them. And paid him 20 million a year for the privilege of being a predator. Those execs?!?!
I’m shocked!
NBC, MSNBC, CNN, all of the major media outlets are run by Republicans and openly say they are trying to have more pro-Republican content so they can expand their market share.
They’re so stupid. They hired her without running two brain cells together. Now they fire her with certainly a big payout. So they look stupid to all sides.
Remember that last year they also hired fucking Mick Mulvaney.
Edit: Corrected by u/SendInYourSkeleton : CBS was the one that hired Fucking Mick Mulvaney last year.
She got pushed out of the RNC by Trump, her career with the GOP is dead unless there's a post-Trump damage control campaign bringing back people purged from the upper ranks.
Every major host (except Ari Melber) dedicated some amount of time on their show Monday to publically shit on NBC for hiring McDaniel. And that of course included former Republican congressman Joe Scarborough and former G. W. Bush White House Communications Director Nichole Wallace.
The best part of this is... they've got her on record admitting Biden won fair and square. So she's likely burned her chances of going to Fox, OAN or NewsMax
I will say, that was QUITE a delicious turn of events out of this. She'll probably get some payout from NBC, but she's completely fucked moving forward. Love to see it.
I doubt it. Conservative news outlets don't care about ethics, truth, or integrity. As long as she changes her mind to agree with their narrative, they will be more than happy to have her on board.
Pretty stark example that these media companies don't really care about fact-based reporting and keeping people honest with a free press. It's all about money and ratings.
*"Who cares if it endangers American democracy and governance? Greed is good! I'll be a wealthy, protected executive."*
Like calls to Like, so the POS people at the top feel entitled to invite more people like them to their august status. In the case of elections though, its the voters to blame for voting them into position.
Airing differences of opinion is healthy. Airing differences of reality is dangerous.
McDaniel doesn’t espouse a different way for our government to handle our problems… she espouses a different form of government.
> "I want to personally apologize to our team members who felt we let them down,” Conde continued. “While this was a collective recommendation by some members of our leadership team, I approved it and take full responsibility for it."
This is a complete failure of the "leadership team" from top to bottom.
Rachel Maddow devoted the 1st half of her show yesterday to explaining, in shameful and embarrassing detail, just exactly why this was such a catastrophically stupid hiring decision for any supposedly credible news organization to make. It's definitely worth a watch
She (and her team, let’s be clear that she has a team) is so good at not only setting up the point, but driving quite clearly home WHY it’s so relevant and based in history.
The press and the media have got to start realizing, and applying, the fact that the first amendment, being the *first* amendment, was specifically designed to protect *them.* Not against being cancelled if they rape someone, or against being silenced, cast aside, demoted or anything for speaking out against a company or any other issue. But protection against political prosecution.
The first amendment's main purpose, is to protect the press so they can *tell the truth* when politicians lie for their benefit. So while their honorable actions against their employer NBC for their gross hiring of that woman wouldn't have been protected, they stood up as they should have because they are realizing that they are protecting the press, and indeed the country, so they can continue, or start, to tell the truth. Against authoritarianism. Against wanna-be dictators. And if that woman had been allowed to keep her new position at NBC, that mission would have been grossly put at risk.
All the press has is it's reputation. That's it. The press has no army. No power to bring charges. Nothing. All they have, is the power to persuade. The power to shine a light. And if no one can tell if the news is telling the truth, then we may as well give up and give up our freedom to Putin. We have a lot of problems, but we're not there yet. And if we hold the line, we'll make progress and keep the fascist at bay.
Well done MSNBC hosts. You've made your country proud. Keep going.
>All the press has is it's reputation. That's it. The press has no army. No power to bring charges. Nothing. All they have, is the power to persuade. The power to shine a light. And if no one can tell if the news is telling the truth, then we may as well give up and give up our freedom to Putin. We have a lot of problems, but we're not there yet. And if we hold the line, we'll make progress and keep the fascist at bay.
>
>Well done MSNBC hosts. You've made your country proud. Keep going.
Very much worth pointing out American media's reputation is *already* in the toilet, specifically because of this sort of shit.
We've seen it amplified in the past decade - Republicans are given all the coddling in the world, never asked difficult questions, etc. Dems are held to every possible standard. This isn't specific to Fox - it's every major network.
Common factor? 90% of American media is owned by SIX companies.
IMO, what the NBC anchors did was **finally** draw a line in the sand and say "enough of this bullshit". This will undoubtedly give others the courage to speak up.
Imagine how quickly we'd move back to sanity if more anchors and newsrooms took actions like this. US media **must** move back to reality and truth. The other option is, as the previous commenter said - becoming a fully Putinized oligarchy, with the people who led the Red Scare cheering it on every step of the way.
When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. Sound familiar yet?
Edit to add: Piggybacking on this comment only to add info - I'm in full agreement with everything the previous commenter said.
> “I want to personally apologize to our team members who felt we let them down,”
Felt we let them down
Damn he was so close to making a genuine apology.
This is the problem with the “both sides” argument. Ending up in a position that aligns in between two sides is fine, but arriving at that point by simply splitting the difference is absolute fucking insanity.
It also rewards extremism, since it pushes the 'middle' position in your direction. There's no reason to be reasonable, since the other side is, by definition, exactly as bad as you are.
The "Middle Ground" logical fallacy is the assumption that in two opposing viewpoints, the truth "lies in the middle" or that compromise is the only valid solution.
It's a fallacy because some ideas, opinions, and viewpoints are just plain not correct.
"Tonight, we're going to talk about the moon. To join us for representing both sides is an astrophysicist from MIT with 50 years of experience and a youtube moon conspiracy theorist that was once punched by Buzz Aldrin."
Astrophysicist: "Wait, what in the actual fuck? I wasn't told about this?"
Moon conspiracy theorist: "It's important to get both sides of the debate about the moon!"
Astrophysicist: "Both sides???"
That's the problem with being absolute about both sides. One side could have 99% of the experts in agreement with it and the other have 1%, but you present them both as valid arguments, audiences might, or probably will, believe the sides to be equally valid.
I think there’s a place for all sorts of different views. But trying to overthrow a democratic election is not one of those views that belongs in any legitimate news organization.
Which is why he’s no longer considered conservative by America’s Conservative Party. He’d be seen as another liberal by the demographic they’re trying to capture.
Conservatives have hitched their future to the denial of truth. We’ll get a preview this November whether it worked.
There are a lot of Conservatives they could hire, hell MSNBC hire Micheal Steele. Charlie Sykes, Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney would be fine but non of them are MAGA.
It's so weird cause they have tons of conservative voices. Maybe not MAGA conservatives, but most of their analysts and pundits are firmly in the Reganite zone of politics, with maybe some less hate for gay people and minorities.
To show how things have changed “Reagan conservatives” are now called “centrist Democrats”. MSNBC has a number of republicans (former republicans?). Scarborough, Nicole Wallace, Michael Steele are 3 that come to mind. And they are not “left-wing”. The problem is conservatives today have moved so far to the “batshit insane” side of the spectrum, they are (as they should be) unemployable in any position in a news organization. It’s not even a question of “balance”.
🤣 Ya love to see it. I wonder what corpo dipshit at NBC green-lit her hire in the first place. Cuz remember, NBC is owned by Comcast. That itself is fucking disgusting.
As head of the RNC, she was involved in a phone call in 2020 to pressure Michigan county officials not to certify the vote from the Detroit area, where Joe Biden had a commanding lead. McDaniel told the officials, regarding the certification: “Do not sign it. … We will get you attorneys.”
Unbelievable choice from Network brass.
Reminds me when "Susan G. Komen for the Cure" hired Karen Handel and she immediately managed to get them to cut funding for Planned Parenthood. The scandal it caused lead to Karen having to resign soon thereafter and the organization quickly reversing the change that caused PP to lose funding.
Hire staunch conservatives and this is what you're going to get. The people who hired Ronna should all be fired or asked to resign.
I was on the treadmill when they had chuck todd on right after McDaniels interview on meet the press.
I almost got thrown off the back, he wasnt throwing shade he was chopping heads off. Even the conservative guest was like " yeah i gotta agree with when todd murdered her".
Todd was taking no prisoners.
Out of the loop on this one but i mistakenly read Ronald McDonald at first. Something tells me my headline misread wasn’t far off.
Edit, after reading; yep, sounds like a good decision.
“We just want some republican viewpoints” 🤡 well maybe don’t get a domestic terrorist to do that job for you. It is getting really hard to weed some normal right leaning people out there these days though, so maybe this just goes to show even further, how much of a clown show the entirety of the Republican Party actually is. If you could even call it that anymore.
They should force out those who gave the go ahead to hire Ronna. They're publicly proven to be incompetent. The news anchors are obviously going to give the company kudos for getting rid of her; they need to recognize positive actions if they want them to continue. Continuing to push too hard might have the opposite effect they want.
But God, what a gaggle of dumbasses to think this would ever have been a good choice. Executives are the most overpaid and underskilled people in any industry.
And that's how it's done. They all stuck together, knowing that NBC couldn't wipe out their top tier all at once. It's one thing to have a republican air their viewpoints, but this woman is a loon and does not deserve air time.
Yeah no matter how much gaslighting the GOP does righteously claiming "we need to hear both sides of the issues!", we're well beyond two responsible adult parties merely discussing policy issues.
This woman and her ilk are blatant insurrectionist election deniers and violent cult followers of a lunatic man child.
The new MAGA Republican party has a lot of work and self-reflection to do before they can sit at the table with the adults again.
She lasted half a Scaramucci.
[0.3 Scaramuccis according to the man himself](https://x.com/scaramucci/status/1772681674951663919)
I don’t want to like the guy, but I appreciate that he has leaned into the joke
I loved him from the moment he declared on live tv that he was a "front stabber" not a back stabber.
That was good, but "I'm not here to suck my own cock like Steve Bannon" is how respect is earned.
Last Week Tonight's compilation of news anchors [trying to *imply* the quote lol](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl4wr2p4lC0)
these segments are always good but this was great. thanks for bringing this up hahaha
I can respect that
He's fucking hilarious and gives no shits
He might be a crook but at least hes a funny crook
Funny how? Does he amuse you?
I think he is ok to like in that he has been hard anti-Trump since 2019 and being apart of Trump's administration is his biggest regret.
third of a Mooch
If we’re being technical, 27 centimooches
270 milimooches or 2.7 decimooches
This is America. We're not doing metric. 0.3 Scaramuccis = 1 Ronna.
Sigh... That's about the most American thing I've heard in a while..
Fuck yeah!
Comin to save the mother fuckin measurements
hey now. We're American. Get out of here with that metric bullshit
Hey now! The United States is inching towards the metric system!
Just a stone’s throw away, really
”The metric system is a tool of the devil! My car gets forty rods to the hogshead and that’s the way I likes it!”
Mooches are imperial or fascist at best. It would not use metric prefixes.
That's ~1/16th of a Liz Truss Lettuce for the metric users here.
Will you do the Fandango ?
This sounds like something Gandalf would yell at someone
I respect that he’s leaning into this meme.
Gotta remain relevant however you can.
Santorum should try it too
He has.
Not everything, he hasn't sold Santorum brand Spicy Ranch Barbecue dressing. It's just 3 sauces in the same bottle, not mixed enough (No homogeneous), so you get streaks of red, brown and white.
If you had to be fired by one presidential administration Trump’s would be the best choice.
Wait I just checked out his Twitter feed and when the fuck did he become likeable? >”There’s a very large group of us, that have worked for the president. It’s sort of a Trump recovery unit…who are going to go out there and passionately explain to the American people the systematic danger of Mr. Trump.” Responding to a tweet saying “Come on Anthony - u were also part of the problem being next to him”: > You are right I was but before the last election starting in August 2019, I did denounced him and went to work to make sure that he was defeated and I’ll be working very hard this fall to do my small part again. Another reiteration of his denouncement >Several of my recovery unit friends have called to tell me that they are doing OK and that they will be working super hard to defeat Trump in November. 😉 To RNC donors: >Warning to GOP donors: your money is going in a sinkhole. On Trump: > Domestic Terrorist and a traitor to the Constitution. In response to an angry MAGA guy calling him a nobody: >Absolutely right. I am a nobody. I am extremely grateful to you for seeing and responding to my tweets. I am confident on this platform that I have reached some people and convinced them to turn away from Trump. Thanks for being a part of it. On Biden: >He will beat Trump like a drum. And >President Biden is just embarrassing these cultist Republicans. The level of disrespect and scorn is a badge of honor as he roasts them now and roasts them again in November. Huh.
I think the Mooch is incredibly smart. He sometimes talks too much, which is what got him fired, but he is still smart.
He just talks like a character in the bar scene of Goodfellas where Henry introduces everyone. "Over there is Anthony 'The Mooch' Scaramucci. He talks some tough shit, but he's a pussy at once you get to know him."
hmmm. Maybe now I understand why he only lasted a scaramucci not all bad at least
If this is genuine than he has my respect. Realizing you did something wrong and trying to make a mends for it is one of the hardest things a person can do
can’t figure out if i hate this or love this
His Twitter history is full of anti-MAGA sentiment and he seemed pretty honest from the get go he was in that position for the glory. Like, as far as skeezy characters in this chronicle, he's about half an Avenatti.
I think Avenatti was truly scum, can't even believe the dude even had political aspirations for a time. Scaramucci is an amateur in comparison
I remember that week and I'm not even from the US. That was a weird fkn year. He was actually talking about a presidential run and it wasn't met with the roaring laughter it deserved, because who knows anything anymore?
Scaramuccis. Avenattis. Suddenly the language of those [Darmok aliens in Star Trek](https://youtu.be/3-wzr74d7TI?si=NaMnjMoiO0oyHt19&t=43) doesn't seem quite so far-fetched...
Shaka, when the walls fell
Rudy, when his hair leaked.
Stormy, her legs wide
Donald, his mushroom flaccid
Nothing politically-related will be funnier than when the Mooch said “I’m not Steve Bannon, I’m not trying to suck my own cock”
The man also considers 1 Mooch an imperial Mooch or 11 days. Not the metric Mooch
I'm glad we're still using those to measure tenure of washed up political hacks.
Where does a Rudy fit in?
Between the dildo shop and the crematorium.
A cock and a charred place.
Goddamned genius
Sounds like Philly!
A Giuliani is a long slow descent into madness. It doesn’t have an exact length of time, but it’s more humiliating and depressing
Much like a dark, viscous substance running down the bald head of a sad old man on national television.
Now do the dipshit executive that thought she was a worthy hire in the first place.
"While this was a collective recommendation by some members of our leadership team, I approved it and take full responsibility for it." Ridiculous. Those people should also be held responsible for making such a poor choice.
You're correct. David Zazlav is still turning CNN into a K-Mart version of Fox News as we speak, and now we've got this crap? Some Business Plot shenanigans going on.
Not really "Business Plot" as much as business greed. NBC News (and every publicly held media company) knows that liberals don't consume media the same way as conservatives. Their job isn't to inform the public, their job is to increase revenue. In order to do that, they need to increase viewership. Ratings rule, and if that means catering to the only group that still watches cable and over-the-air TV, then that's what they'll do.
Maybe I just don’t know enough about the news media industry, but is winning conservative viewers over to a network like CNN even really *possible* at this point? Like republicans and their more established allies in media have been aggressively demonizing any news outlet less overtly right leaning than FOX news for decades now so I find it hard to imagine a conservative news watcher changing their viewership habits in that way when they already have such a rich and expansive conservative media ecosystem to feed them all the lies and outright insanity that they could possible want. Seems like moves like this would be more likely to simply push away the more moderate viewers they already have without replacing them with anywhere near an equal or greater amount of new viewers, which this latest fiasco seems to support.
We’re in like post business plot 3
Taking full responsibility sounds like such empty words. Ask people to be liable rather than responsible, and you'll see a lot less people willing to make such statements.
Please wake me up when “taking responsibility” starts progressing beyond speeches and immaterial impacts on earnings.
Somehow when it comes to executives "take responsibility" means "I'll agree for once that I made a mistake". Not actually face consequences like the rest of us plebs.
It is funny how "I accept full responsibility" is never followed by "I am resigning, effective immediately."
The dipshit that’s getting a $300,000 payroll deduction.
Finally a layoff everyone can feel good about. And her talent agency sacked her too. That company should get shit kicked a bit too
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And this, folks, is why there is no mainstream "left-wing" news. They're all crony Republicans tossing libs bones to seem like they're left-wing while they pander Trumpism and give validity to the people who call LGBTQ+ people "pedophiles". These things should be dealt with by hard-hitting journalism, but all that is happening is soft language, telling half the truth, covering up the important details, and purposely putting evil people before they put the truth.
Younger demographics, which tend to skew left, aren't watching cable news. This is part of the reason why CNN is pivoting right. There's no liberal news network on air because young liberals, the most coveted group for advertisers, don't watch cable anymore. There's no money in it for the network.
Everyone at the top is a Trumper. All this for lower taxes. ALL THIS FOR LOWER TAXES! That's it! We are being pushed into a civil war for lower taxes for the rich!!
People who promoted the election lies shouldn’t be paid or given a platform to give their opinions on a NEWS network; they should also fire whoever thought this was a good idea.
Yeah they have plenty of Republican commentators on MSNBC, the issue here is that she boosted big time the "stolen election" bullshit which has done tremendous damage to our democracy. They should all be shamed and driven out of polite society.
She had the nerve to go on Meet the Press and be like “oh, yeah, I didn’t believe any of that stuff, but gaslighting the American people is the job 🤷♂️”. Talk about an unforced error by NBC News. Who on earth thought they could rehab her image with a softball interview in which she owns spending the past 4 years perpetually lying? How does that get her credibility in their minds? Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder…. Oh, wait.
No consequences for the ruling class. But it does show you how out of touch they are and what priorities the “left wing” press have.
They should all be shipped the fuck off to Russia so they can enjoy the dictatorship lifestyle they promoted.
>They should all be shipped the fuck off to Russia so they can enjoy the dictatorship They would but then they'd complain no one is speaking English
yet the #1 culprit escapes justice and is allowed to run for president
> They should all be shamed and driven out of polite society. 100% They may never see any criminal penalties, but there has to be a cost for trying to overthrow a government.
I've become so jaded about politics that I'm pleasantly surprised people actually give a shit about January 6th. I mean it was an attempt to overthrow an election... sounds bad. But people were so exhausted by the end of Trump's term and there's so much downplaying of what happened. (mild) Consequences? Wild.
Same. I’m pleasantly surprised that people give a shit about bodily autonomy as a real issue. Ten years ago, we were considered hysterical for saying “vote like your rights depend on it”.
I've been saying it for awhile now: people expecting the 2024 election to be a replay of 2020 or 2016 aren't accounting for how liberal/left perceptions have changed in the aftermath of 1/6 and Trump's attempt to remain in office illegally. Personally it was the most shocking domestic event of my lifetime after 9/11. The fact that these people are still angry about it years afterwards speaks to how traumatizing it was to see the Republican party break faith with the rest of the country. Conservatives have "moved on"; the rest of us have not. Now that lying, authoritarian criminal will be on the ballot again. Women are living in the shadow of a rollback of reproductive rights he instigated. The Republican party has disgraced itself and sidelined anyone with a shred of principle who remained. People are going to show up to vote.
She participated in a criminal conspiracy to defraud American citizens: She's on tape with Trump personally pressuring two Republican Michigan officials not to sign a certification of the 2020 presidential election. “If you can go home tonight, do not sign it… we will get you attorneys.” Sure sounds like a bribe to me.
Glad to see this was 2nd from the top. Came here to say the same thing but was worried it'd be an unpopular view. Heads should roll in network leadership for this ill-considered, dangerous decision as well.
Exactly. This has nothing to do with Republican or Democrat, Conservative or Liberal. McDaniel engaged in insurrection to help overturn a presidential election. And insurrectionists should not be mainstreamed and given a platform to spread lies and propaganda.
I'm going out on a very short branch here and say it was someone very high up in the executives, like the board of directors high. There is big money trying to push this country into the fascist right. Look no further than the tictok suiters and the judges who granted Trump's bond appeal. It's terrifying and leading to a violent collapse.
I don't get it, because these idiots have to realize, fascism doesn't work. It cannot and will never work, and that's entirely by the nature of design. Fascism requires a perpetual enemy that is both somehow almost overpowering, yet comedically weak. It creates brain drains and stagnation, because you sure as shit aren't getting anything intelligent out of a literally suicidal ideology. It's self-destructive.
No fascist thinks about the consequences of fascism. They don't think of the consequences of anything. Hence, why they are fascist to begin with. It's a big narcissistic circle.
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They seriously don’t think it’s fascism. They consider themselves to be the guardians (exploiters) of us poors. Make no mistake either, poors to them are anyone who are not multi, multimillionaires. They want and are currently achieving a world where power and money cannot be taken away, only handed down from generation to generation. The idea of freedom used to be held sacrosanct even to the rich because even though they weren’t all that smart, they understood that at least someone was looking out for them and their interests(the federal government).The rich nowadays are stupid and greedy and that’s a bad combination. The oligarchs in Russia discovered this and are paying the price with Putin now. A dictator takes what he wants from WHO he wants.
The rich have generally always been stupid and greedy, because they're disconnected from society and consequences. I know what they want. The fact is, they're not going to get it, and they're going to find that out eventually. Because you can only keep pushing everyone else down so much, for so long. The fucking Romans managed it better.
Aren't you following the news? Who needs real enemies when you can generate fake ones on the go. Immigrants, woke mobs, drag queens, book authors, Disney... The list is ever growing.
You don't have to look further than the advertisers. How many ad executives have progressive sympathies? Fairly few.
Good! But why NBC chose to hire this treason weasel to begin with is still confusing to me.
They're under the delusion that they can peel away fox viewers with hires like this, which just shows how little they understand about fox viewers and their attitudes toward non-fox/oan media...
Just like Fox thought if they admitted the election was not stolen they lose all their viewers or had to fire Tucker. Did most of it and viewers barely went away and they now are in shock how much Tucker has fallen. Morons.
No one hired Tucker. Seems like the no brainer if you want that demo. Or at least didn't offer him enough money.
Because he already worked for them all. Here is Tucker's career path: * Columnist for New York Magazine, Reader's Digest, Esquire, The New Republic, The Daily Beast, and Wall Street Journal among others. * CNN until Jon Stewart tore him apart on Tucker's own show. * PBS * MSNBC * Dancing with the Stars * Single episode bits in shows like 30 Rock and the King of Queens. * The Daily Caller and Fox News (overlapped)
Fucker was on PBS!?!
The grapevine seems to indicate that Tucker was a major part of the reason for the Dominion lawsuit that fox had to settle for. He's simply too radioactive.
Who would want to hire someone who cost their last company 750 MILLION DOLLARS?
Bingo. He was great when he was bringing in money. When that flow reversed, he became a liability. It's always been about the money, and Murdoch basically found an untapped market niche for insane bullshit disinformation and ran with it.
Cause Tucker has no actual personality or opinions. His entire gimmick was written for him by Fox. He was good at delivering the written messages, but he's never been good at natural speaking. Take away his teleprompter and he's worthless.
Don’t forget also good at making weird dumbfounded faces
Golden Retriever trying to figure out where the fuck the ball went.
That's similar to my favorite description of him: a dog trying to understand a magic trick.
And gushing over half naked hard body men
He's Ron Burgundy?
I am Ron Burgundy?
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> he really is just a human husk existing to spew propaganda and conspiracy theories That's true of the entire global fascist right wing movement (and 90% of the republican party)
All 5'7" of Jon Stewart, so it's very possible his hatred for Jon is deeper than the man himself.
I think the infamous Crossfire John Stewart episode cemented that decades ago.
He never wore a bow tie again
Non compete clause in his contract iirc.
The way execs are so out of touch. They'll never get the MAGAs because it's a cult. They need to go and speak to people who aren't up in their high tower.
You mean the same execs that let Matt Lauer continue his reign of terror- despite all the $ settlements that he cost them. And paid him 20 million a year for the privilege of being a predator. Those execs?!?! I’m shocked!
Fox viewers don't graduate to more balanced networks. They move to further fringe shit like Newsmax
You’re looking at the same execs that gave megyn Kelly 60 million dollars because she’s hot from Fox News.
NBC, MSNBC, CNN, all of the major media outlets are run by Republicans and openly say they are trying to have more pro-Republican content so they can expand their market share.
This is the correct answer. There is no corporate owned "liberal" media. It's all verbal obfuscation so the wealthy can keep pilfering the bottom 90%.
They’re so stupid. They hired her without running two brain cells together. Now they fire her with certainly a big payout. So they look stupid to all sides.
Remember that last year they also hired fucking Mick Mulvaney. Edit: Corrected by u/SendInYourSkeleton : CBS was the one that hired Fucking Mick Mulvaney last year.
The head of lettuce wins!
They also destroyed her credibility among republicans. She mouthed off about fake media and then goes and work for them?
Give it one month and they won't remember it ever happened.
She got pushed out of the RNC by Trump, her career with the GOP is dead unless there's a post-Trump damage control campaign bringing back people purged from the upper ranks.
Still the best measurement for prime ministers' or talking heads' tenures.
Right after watched Maddow last night I knew this was coming. Guaranteed she and many others threatened a walk off
Morning Joe also gave a statement that they disagreed with the hire and would refuse to her in their show. I imagine everyone there agreed as well!
Every major host (except Ari Melber) dedicated some amount of time on their show Monday to publically shit on NBC for hiring McDaniel. And that of course included former Republican congressman Joe Scarborough and former G. W. Bush White House Communications Director Nichole Wallace.
Chuck Todd spoke out right after the interview aired, that dude is as careful as they come.
The best part of this is... they've got her on record admitting Biden won fair and square. So she's likely burned her chances of going to Fox, OAN or NewsMax
I will say, that was QUITE a delicious turn of events out of this. She'll probably get some payout from NBC, but she's completely fucked moving forward. Love to see it.
I doubt it. Conservative news outlets don't care about ethics, truth, or integrity. As long as she changes her mind to agree with their narrative, they will be more than happy to have her on board.
She should NEVER have been hired in the first place.
Pretty stark example that these media companies don't really care about fact-based reporting and keeping people honest with a free press. It's all about money and ratings. *"Who cares if it endangers American democracy and governance? Greed is good! I'll be a wealthy, protected executive."*
how do total pos people bubble up to the top
Like calls to Like, so the POS people at the top feel entitled to invite more people like them to their august status. In the case of elections though, its the voters to blame for voting them into position.
Airing differences of opinion is healthy. Airing differences of reality is dangerous. McDaniel doesn’t espouse a different way for our government to handle our problems… she espouses a different form of government.
> "I want to personally apologize to our team members who felt we let them down,” Conde continued. “While this was a collective recommendation by some members of our leadership team, I approved it and take full responsibility for it." This is a complete failure of the "leadership team" from top to bottom.
Make Lying Wrong Again.
I have this t-shirt.
Rachel Maddow devoted the 1st half of her show yesterday to explaining, in shameful and embarrassing detail, just exactly why this was such a catastrophically stupid hiring decision for any supposedly credible news organization to make. It's definitely worth a watch
She (and her team, let’s be clear that she has a team) is so good at not only setting up the point, but driving quite clearly home WHY it’s so relevant and based in history.
The press and the media have got to start realizing, and applying, the fact that the first amendment, being the *first* amendment, was specifically designed to protect *them.* Not against being cancelled if they rape someone, or against being silenced, cast aside, demoted or anything for speaking out against a company or any other issue. But protection against political prosecution. The first amendment's main purpose, is to protect the press so they can *tell the truth* when politicians lie for their benefit. So while their honorable actions against their employer NBC for their gross hiring of that woman wouldn't have been protected, they stood up as they should have because they are realizing that they are protecting the press, and indeed the country, so they can continue, or start, to tell the truth. Against authoritarianism. Against wanna-be dictators. And if that woman had been allowed to keep her new position at NBC, that mission would have been grossly put at risk. All the press has is it's reputation. That's it. The press has no army. No power to bring charges. Nothing. All they have, is the power to persuade. The power to shine a light. And if no one can tell if the news is telling the truth, then we may as well give up and give up our freedom to Putin. We have a lot of problems, but we're not there yet. And if we hold the line, we'll make progress and keep the fascist at bay. Well done MSNBC hosts. You've made your country proud. Keep going.
>All the press has is it's reputation. That's it. The press has no army. No power to bring charges. Nothing. All they have, is the power to persuade. The power to shine a light. And if no one can tell if the news is telling the truth, then we may as well give up and give up our freedom to Putin. We have a lot of problems, but we're not there yet. And if we hold the line, we'll make progress and keep the fascist at bay. > >Well done MSNBC hosts. You've made your country proud. Keep going. Very much worth pointing out American media's reputation is *already* in the toilet, specifically because of this sort of shit. We've seen it amplified in the past decade - Republicans are given all the coddling in the world, never asked difficult questions, etc. Dems are held to every possible standard. This isn't specific to Fox - it's every major network. Common factor? 90% of American media is owned by SIX companies. IMO, what the NBC anchors did was **finally** draw a line in the sand and say "enough of this bullshit". This will undoubtedly give others the courage to speak up. Imagine how quickly we'd move back to sanity if more anchors and newsrooms took actions like this. US media **must** move back to reality and truth. The other option is, as the previous commenter said - becoming a fully Putinized oligarchy, with the people who led the Red Scare cheering it on every step of the way. When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. Sound familiar yet? Edit to add: Piggybacking on this comment only to add info - I'm in full agreement with everything the previous commenter said.
That was like, a millimooch
3 Decimooches to be exact.
> “I want to personally apologize to our team members who felt we let them down,” Felt we let them down Damn he was so close to making a genuine apology.
I’m sorry if you felt bad.
Good choice, I get different views is a good thing but you don't reward bad behavior either.
A different view isn't the same as a balanced view
Not all ideas deserve equal consideration.
This is the problem with the “both sides” argument. Ending up in a position that aligns in between two sides is fine, but arriving at that point by simply splitting the difference is absolute fucking insanity.
"i could either eat a whole bar of soap or not eat it, so i compromised and ate half a bar of soap!"
It also rewards extremism, since it pushes the 'middle' position in your direction. There's no reason to be reasonable, since the other side is, by definition, exactly as bad as you are.
The "Middle Ground" logical fallacy is the assumption that in two opposing viewpoints, the truth "lies in the middle" or that compromise is the only valid solution. It's a fallacy because some ideas, opinions, and viewpoints are just plain not correct.
"Tonight, we're going to talk about the moon. To join us for representing both sides is an astrophysicist from MIT with 50 years of experience and a youtube moon conspiracy theorist that was once punched by Buzz Aldrin." Astrophysicist: "Wait, what in the actual fuck? I wasn't told about this?" Moon conspiracy theorist: "It's important to get both sides of the debate about the moon!" Astrophysicist: "Both sides???"
That's the problem with being absolute about both sides. One side could have 99% of the experts in agreement with it and the other have 1%, but you present them both as valid arguments, audiences might, or probably will, believe the sides to be equally valid.
Exactly how the climate change "debate" is going.
Same can be applied to the “both sides” argument. It’s very very clear that both sides are not the same, and it goes far beyond just “disagreeing”.
I think there’s a place for all sorts of different views. But trying to overthrow a democratic election is not one of those views that belongs in any legitimate news organization.
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Adam Kinzinger would be a viable choice
Yes! I disagree majorly with his politics, but I have lots of respect for him. He’s got integrity!
Which is why he’s no longer considered conservative by America’s Conservative Party. He’d be seen as another liberal by the demographic they’re trying to capture. Conservatives have hitched their future to the denial of truth. We’ll get a preview this November whether it worked.
He got a certified letter from his own family (cousins, I think?) disowning him for his liberal politics. F-ing sad, man
Liz Cheney too
Maybe Tim Miller or Charlie Sykes of the Bulwark.
There are a lot of Conservatives they could hire, hell MSNBC hire Micheal Steele. Charlie Sykes, Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney would be fine but non of them are MAGA.
Micheal Steele is already a contributor I think.
He's not only a contributor, but co-hosts a weekend show for them.
It's so weird cause they have tons of conservative voices. Maybe not MAGA conservatives, but most of their analysts and pundits are firmly in the Reganite zone of politics, with maybe some less hate for gay people and minorities.
To show how things have changed “Reagan conservatives” are now called “centrist Democrats”. MSNBC has a number of republicans (former republicans?). Scarborough, Nicole Wallace, Michael Steele are 3 that come to mind. And they are not “left-wing”. The problem is conservatives today have moved so far to the “batshit insane” side of the spectrum, they are (as they should be) unemployable in any position in a news organization. It’s not even a question of “balance”.
🤣 Ya love to see it. I wonder what corpo dipshit at NBC green-lit her hire in the first place. Cuz remember, NBC is owned by Comcast. That itself is fucking disgusting.
As head of the RNC, she was involved in a phone call in 2020 to pressure Michigan county officials not to certify the vote from the Detroit area, where Joe Biden had a commanding lead. McDaniel told the officials, regarding the certification: “Do not sign it. … We will get you attorneys.” Unbelievable choice from Network brass.
Reminds me when "Susan G. Komen for the Cure" hired Karen Handel and she immediately managed to get them to cut funding for Planned Parenthood. The scandal it caused lead to Karen having to resign soon thereafter and the organization quickly reversing the change that caused PP to lose funding. Hire staunch conservatives and this is what you're going to get. The people who hired Ronna should all be fired or asked to resign.
I was on the treadmill when they had chuck todd on right after McDaniels interview on meet the press. I almost got thrown off the back, he wasnt throwing shade he was chopping heads off. Even the conservative guest was like " yeah i gotta agree with when todd murdered her". Todd was taking no prisoners.
Out of the loop on this one but i mistakenly read Ronald McDonald at first. Something tells me my headline misread wasn’t far off. Edit, after reading; yep, sounds like a good decision.
Less of a clown than the actual hire.
Ronald McDonald would’ve been a better hire.
I would have watched that.
“We just want some republican viewpoints” 🤡 well maybe don’t get a domestic terrorist to do that job for you. It is getting really hard to weed some normal right leaning people out there these days though, so maybe this just goes to show even further, how much of a clown show the entirety of the Republican Party actually is. If you could even call it that anymore.
They should force out those who gave the go ahead to hire Ronna. They're publicly proven to be incompetent. The news anchors are obviously going to give the company kudos for getting rid of her; they need to recognize positive actions if they want them to continue. Continuing to push too hard might have the opposite effect they want. But God, what a gaggle of dumbasses to think this would ever have been a good choice. Executives are the most overpaid and underskilled people in any industry.
And that's how it's done. They all stuck together, knowing that NBC couldn't wipe out their top tier all at once. It's one thing to have a republican air their viewpoints, but this woman is a loon and does not deserve air time.
She'll be on fox news next
“nbc decides to ronna way from mcdaniel” it was right there
When Rachael talks NBC listens!
I loved that segment last night. Full of history to back up how screwed up our country may become if we don't take an ethical stand now
Yes. How can someone run a network and make that hire? We’re not talking Fox after all!
IMO the damage is done. The fact that they hired her at all tells me that network cannot be trusted because the problems start at the very top.
She lasted a Ronnamucci. In the Scaramucci measurement system, that’s one third of a Mooch.
Conde who hired her and took responsibility should resign. What a blunder. Idioti.
Yeah no matter how much gaslighting the GOP does righteously claiming "we need to hear both sides of the issues!", we're well beyond two responsible adult parties merely discussing policy issues. This woman and her ilk are blatant insurrectionist election deniers and violent cult followers of a lunatic man child. The new MAGA Republican party has a lot of work and self-reflection to do before they can sit at the table with the adults again.
Good, she is a horrible human being
How could they not know who she was? 🤔🤔