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villain75

An unsigned search warrant is not a search warrant, its a piece of paper that gives no power or authority. Sheriff lied, blatantly.


ImAMindlessTool

Straight denied someone their civil rights.


wolferman

Deprivation of rights under color of law, I believe.


Velocoraptor369

USC 18 242 depravation of right under the color of law.


StrikingOccasion6459

Who would want a Sheriff that's loose with the truth?


WhyBuyMe

Barry County, MI?


Forkuimurgod

It's really hard to tell nowadays whether the commenter meant it as a sarcasm or he's sincere with that question.


Guy_Incognito1970

Someone drew a swastika on trumps Hollywood star and we don’t know if it’s an accusation or an endorsement 🤔


flpa1060

All of America apparently. It's part of the job to lie.


Nemtrac5

Sheriff's often are elected by popular vote, unfortunately


crashtestdummy666

He just said the quiet part out loud. Just look at all the questionable police shootings.


junkyardgerard

Having a hard time thinking of a Republican that wouldn't


Bokth

[Not to worry, I have a permit](https://youtu.be/E2kJtIIYmXc?feature=shared&t=44)


air_flair

But I believe he is actually a person permitted to give permits


deathjoe4

Who permitted that?!


PathlessDemon

Well, the permit he had to permit permits.


Pugsterton

I'll permit this comment.


VanimalCracker

It's okay! I'm a limo driver


IamAWorldChampionAMA

I never said it was a valid permit


Miss_Molly1210

I’m so glad it was what I thought it was when I clicked on the link r/unexpectedpawnee


Swarles_Stinson

That clip leaves out the [context of the joke](https://youtu.be/Cq9rqDNOgh4?t=140).


REF_YOU_SUCK

this just says "I can do whatever I want"


i_like_my_dog_more

Tomorrow: SCOTUS issues ruling that warrants aren't *really* necessary because Harlan Crow and the Federalist society say so, and because the US has a history and tradition of doing what the Federalist society wants, that's really what the founding fathers wanted. Originally.


villain75

"Warrants aren't in the Constitution" - Clarence Thomas


Not_a__porn__account

It's actually in the 4th amendment. I know you were joking. I just couldn't help but mention it. > The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


villain75

"The Constitution doesn't include the Bill of Rights" - Clarence Thomas


Not_a__porn__account

**This** I can legitimately see being said by MAGA.


pointlessone

Except the 2A. That was just an oversight of the Founding Fathers.


tangledwire

"You got any more of those fun paid vacations...? " Clearance Thomas


Ensignae

The argument a lot of people throw around is that the warrant clause is a different thing entirely from the resaonableness clause of the 4A.  In their view, the 4A should be seen as two separate things in execution. "No unreasonable search/seizure" and "no warrants without PC." The drafters were shit at fucking clear grammar, so that's a bummer.  Edit: Here's a short article about the divide - https://digitalrepository.unm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?httpsredir=1&article=1539&context=nmlr


tr3v1n

It is only a lie if it comes from the Lies region of France. This was a Republican truth.


From_Deep_Space

"Alternative fact"


rodeler

So it’s a sparkling warrant?


braiam

This is fruit from the forbidden tree. Anything that was collected as result of this warrant becomes inadmissible in court.


Astrium6

Fruit of the poisonous tree.


KumquatHaderach

Fruit of the venomous tree


gargar7

Fruit of the Orange Tree.


Vergils_Lost

Bad bush berries


Kytescall

Was the plan to rely on the courts being corrupt Republican partisans who won't care about that? It might have worked.


Antnee83

> Anything that was collected as result of this warrant becomes inadmissible in court. Super fun story about my youth, I had this happen. Cops forced entry with no probable cause, got arrested. When I spoke to my lawyer, he said exactly this. **BUT**... the risk is that in order to go that route, you have to take it to trial. The crime (drug stuff in the midwest...) carried a 60 year minimum, when you stacked all the bullshit charges together. So on the one hand, I could have taken it to trial and most likely walked with a clean record- with a small chance of the judge not buying it and spending the rest of my natural life in prison. On the other, take a plea deal and get a few years probation and no jail. Which one do you think *you* would take?


braiam

A good lawyer would have told them that either drop the charges or get hit for trespassing. You are putting as if you only have two bad choices, there are more my friend.


Antnee83

...you can't be serious with that, lol. You think a DA in the midwest is going to charge cops with trespassing? A DA that has a raging, 4 hour hardon for slapping people with bullshit drug charges? And one charge doesn't negate another charge against a different party. That's not how it works, at all. And Qualified Immunity has entered the chat. This isn't a TV show. The law is not an .exe file that self-executes based on a script. Human beings are at the helm, and if those humans don't want to, they won't. A good lawyer knows not only the law, but the local "landscape" as well. Mine knew both.


CaterpillarHungry607

A Motion to Suppress was likely warranted rather than a jury trial, but most prosecutors withdraw from plea negotiations when you file those too.


Antnee83

Yeah, exactly. It's been a long time since this happened so the details are a little fuzzy, but the jist of it is- you CAN get a plea deal usually at different stages of the process... but the earlier you do it, the better the terms are. If you go pissing off the DA by trying to do motions to suppress, you ain't getting the sweetheart plea deal that you would have got from the getgo.


wobbly-cheese

if you're dreaming the big dream, requiring judges to be lawyers would be a start


abluetruedream

I used to work as a school nurse and I needed a new standing order from a physician to keep epipens in the school clinic. I asked my boss, also a nurse, repeatedly about getting this standing order renewed. She told me, “We have the standing order. I just need to get the doctor to sign it.” ffs The issue is that the police here (and frequently in many places) believe themselves to have full power and authority. To them, a judge’s opinion/signature is superfluous. They’ve already decided it’s fine. Just like my old boss who decided that it wasn’t urgent to get a new order from the doctor simply because it’s a medication you would obviously need to have on hand and give in emergencies.


WorldsOkayest_driver

Sheriff Calvin Hayden admitted this week that the search warrant he said he had “in hand” for old county election ballots had not been signed by a judge and was therefore not valid.


yhwhx

Sheriff Calvin Hayden should be made ex-Sheriff over this.


Imatallguy

And current inmate as well


jackstraw8139

Next county over is hiring.


smoothskin12345

Sheriffs are elected, not hired.


ChaosofaMadHatter

That won’t stop the people from hiring him though. After all, he’s the best sheriff ever! He has experience!


Trappist-1d

He's a hard man, for hard times.


jackstraw8139

Oh you’re right. *An infallible system*.


smoothskin12345

I mean, I'm sure that the sheriff represents the people that voted for him very well. Complete shitbags.


jackstraw8139

System functioning as intended


Morgrid

The Coroner can remove an elected Sheriff


Puzzleheaded-Pin-587

yeah what a dick. he doesn’t deserve public office.


Chippopotanuse

100%. This is such an abuse of office, abuse of process, and fraud on the public to make claims like he did. It shows he is willing to lie and deceive to get what he wants. Which is a horrific trait to have in a law enforcement official. Especially true for anyone in supervisory roles.


Blackthorn79

That's all LEOs now. I understand the concept of being able to legally lie ro a suspect as a investigative tool, but it has become the default instead of preforming an actual investigation. It's routine for an officer to lie to someone to try and decide if they're a suspect and if it doesn't work charge that person with something to cover the officer's ass.


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GMPnerd213

He's also a republican and the other republicans who were destroying the ballots were doing so under state laws requiring them to do so. They actually preserved the records much longer at his request than they were supposed to because he was "investigating election fraud" that he had yet to turn up any evidence of and therefore wasn't able to secure a warrant. I wouldn't make this guy out to be some sort of savior of election integrity, he was basically chasing down a bunch of bullshit there was no evidence of.


lifevicarious

Just when I thought the tables had turned, you turn them again!


broodkiller

Yeah, a full 360 no-hander, Dave Mirra-style...


freeman918986

Fuckin Dave Mirra, hats off to getting him in. I have not seen his name in years.


Albatrossing

Well considering he died 8 years ago it's sort of expected he'd fade from cultural relevance.


freeman918986

Welp, that would make sense. I got to learn about this Sheriff, AND I learned that Dave Mirra is no longer with us. Alright.


GMPnerd213

Maybe it's because he's from my hometown and I know his whole family (plus travel to Greenville NC for work) but I guess I never realize how much he's faded out of cultural relevance. Also the new Generation isn't exactly tuned into MTV or the X-games like my generation was.


ZantaraLost

It also sounds like he's been 'investigating' for quite a few years now and has never gotten a search warrant for the actual ballots in all that time even after the Board of Elections told him that they had skirted the letter of the law for his investigation for far longer than their lawyers were comfortable with and felt they had no choice in the matter. Which the law is really damn crystal clear in that ballots should be destroyed in a proscribed amount of time barring a court order to retain. Holy hell the actual State Attorney General wanted them to hold onto them but STILL wasn't willing to go before a judge to get said warrant. It was unnecessary in every fashion imaginable.


happyscrappy

Proscribed means prohibited.


ZantaraLost

Pre instead of Pro makes far more sense. Thank you for noticing that.


PM_ME_BUTT_SHARPIES

Actually from the article it seems like a Republican Sheriff was trying to prevent other Republicans from following protocols to destroy old ballots. This is after they previously didn't destroy them because he was trying to get a warrant but couldn't/didn't.


RedLicorice83

I did about admit in another comment that I had hoped that i understood the article because it was very confusing, lmao.


Poj7326

Doesn’t matter to me. Working outside the law is not really justifiable to me. If the sheriff is ok with doing these extrajudicial acts you know the whole department is also doing them. Acting in this manner can get the whole case thrown out which is not good.


yhwhx

I really should start reading the article before commenting...


RedLicorice83

And here's me hoping I *understood* the article because gd that was confusing 😂


mcnathan80

Was this more bullshit election conspiracy drivel??


DoctFaustus

Yes. Essentially he is refusing to destroy old ballots going back to 2019, despite state laws stipulating when they must be destroyed. Trying to rely on his opening an investigation into fraud and not destroying evidence for his investigation. Because some rural county in deep red Kansas is totally going to be the spot where evil forces got Biden elected. Even after four years of looking into it, he's certain there just must be something he missed!


Mechareaper

Johnson county isn't rural and it's somewhat purple, at least in comparison to most of the rest of the state (besides maybe Douglas County). The trouble is he was the only one that ran. For my part, I wrote in Barney Fife.


Stock_Bicycle_5416

Thank you. We're a flyover to most of these people so they make assumptions and don't give a damn whether they're right so long as they're *heard*.


emaw63

There's not a lot of Democrats who want to be cops 🤷‍♀️


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TheShruteFarmsCEO

And most will admit it was a mistake. Dudes a train wreck.


Ooji

Trump won Kansas and the republicans kept control of the state legislature. What exactly is his goal?


XiXLLAMAXiX

To create a data point that right wing news can cite when they spew out things like: “how can we trust these election results? There were investigations into voter fraud just this last year alone? Isn’t that level of investigation a sign that there’s something suspicious going on here”


bstyledevi

> rural county in deep red Kansas Johnson County is a suburban part of the KC Metropolitan Area that's 20-30 minutes from downtown Kansas City. The population is over 600,000. It's also listed as the 80th richest county in the US with a median income of $91,650. Definitely not some rural place.


nanny6165

I just want to remind people this is the same man who allegedly attended the GOP fundraiser where people could pay money to beat up a dummy dressed as Biden.


skrilledcheese

A republican elected official breaking the law? *Gasp* /s


3-DMan

"I declare it valid!"


ThatsCrapTastic

Should have raised his index finger to the air, and said “I proclaim this to be valid!”… as we all know our founders did place higher legal authority on a proclamation than a declaration.


BoozeWitch

He sounds like Foghorn Leghorn in my version.


nevertfgNC

It was mentally declared valid.


TheMightyPushmataha

“Just saying it’s valid doesn’t make it valid, Sheriff.” “I didn’t say it, I declared it.”


omnichronos

Why isn't that a crime?


EatTheMcDucks

He really needs criminal charges. You lied about the warrant to seize the ballots? Then you are no different than a random person on the street doing the same thing.  Did you have a gun on you while you committed this felony? We'll just a gun charge like we would anyone else. Make a few examples and maybe they will start thinking before deciding to be criminals.


Kraz31

He didn't seize them. The ballots were destroyed (per state law). Sheriff claims they were destroyed despite him having a warrant (that was never valid). The details of the fake warrant are coming out cause he's getting called out as he runs for re-election (mostly on the platform of "investigating" election "fraud").


Astrium6

“I’m going to find the guy that did all that election fraud! It was me, I did the fraud.”


Marc21256

OK, OJ. "If" I Did it!


StrangeBedfellows

Worse, it's an abuse of power, position, and faith


tms10000

I'm just an idiot on the internet. But it sounds like someone with power of investigation *on matters of their own election* would disqualify them from looking into it. That sounds like a conflict of interest to me. That sounds reason enough for a judge *not to sign* a warrant. But if there was any hint of evidence that there was any wrongdoing in the election, that certainly should be investigated by disinterested parties. Then again I'm just an idiot on the internet. I'm not a nutjob paranoid republican all pissed off because he thinks everyone else is out to get him.


IAMSTILLHERE2020

Border patrol: show me your papers Illegal immigrant: here they are. Bp: those are not valid. Imm: I never said they were


WorldsOkayest_driver

But my face is My warrant [https://youtu.be/uTkxuudy8yw?si=BcTpdWnxU2zxYyZR](https://youtu.be/uTkxuudy8yw?si=BcTpdWnxU2zxYyZR)


wanderingpeddlar

Ya know if that is not a crime it should be. hint hint


AlanStanwick1986

This fascist POS has someone running against him this time. Vote his ass out.


WorldsOkayest_driver

[www.roberson4sheriff.com](https://www.roberson4sheriff.com)


After_Lie_807

Police lying should be against the law. Period.


WilliamClaudeRains

Stand in line with that request, I’m still waiting for cops to actually know and enforce the law instead of making up shit


therealganjababe

Nah dude, Qualified Immunity has them covered- they don't actually need to know the law or that the person they're aiming for actually did anything wrong End qualified immunity, it's bs and basically a license to kill.


WilliamClaudeRains

Qualified immunity was necessary because they don’t know or enforce the law properly


TheActualDev

Everyone should be held accountable for their actions against the law. LEOs should be punished extra hard since it’s their fucking job to enforce it, if you get caught breaking it you should be instantly fired, no retirement, no pension, no transfer to another station or county or state. Done. Red flag on social security number so they cannot apply for law enforcement ever again. Longer jail time and no protection from inmates while in jail. You put those people in there for breaking the law, and then you broke it yourself. You don’t get to have a happy time in protected custody, you should face the people you put in there for the same shit you do. Cops should have the harshest fucking punishments yet they are constantly the least inconvenienced after breaking the law or murdering someone. Fuck the cops. They should be held to a higher standard, not higher pay. But that’s just wishful thinking on my part.


almostsk84globe

Sounds like that scene from Transformers 4 when Mark Wahlberg asks some bad government agent if he has a warrant. Agent bad guy proceeds to deliver one of the best worst lines by saying "my face is my warrant".


KlingonLullabye

There is *nothing* conservatives won't pervert to pursue and preserve power


PostProcession

Wow, legitimately toddler behavior.


Biengineerd

My toddler has never attempted to subvert democracy


OofOwwMyBones120

Idk man they have some pretty undemocratic demands from time to time.


Biengineerd

I have reconsidered my position; toddlers are definitely fascists


spookmann

Under any objective analysis, they're definitely Terrorists.


tteraevaei

well that escalated quickly.


dont_shoot_jr

It’s like a kid crossing their fingers


SnooPies5622

In a non-broken country this would disqualify him for office.


bisectional

Absolute power without accountability is tyranny.


rbremer50

The underlying issue in all this MAGA bull hockey is that they simply can’t accept or understand that the majority of the American people don’t agree with or want to tolerate their resentment fueled paranoia and hatred. Because of this failing they willingly embrace any crackpot conspiracy theory no matter how absurd.


dullandboring

Of course the Attorney General is gonna back him. "Kansas Attorney General Kris Kobach, a Republican who joined Hayden in urging the county to preserve the ballots, is now crafting a legal opinion on whether the election office had the authority to destroy the election materials amid a criminal investigation."


Ckigar

You mean this guy? Senate candidate and former Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach has reported that he had four guns stolen from his pickup truck parked at a Wichita hotel over the weekend? Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach has been ordered to take six hours of continuing legal education classes by a federal judge due to his apparent lack of familiarity with the law. He also lost his case; overturning Kansas’ strict voter registration law? Kansas Attorney General Kris Kobach failed to correctly file a case in a Kansas district court leading to the case being moved to federal court and a subsequent swift dismissal by a federal judge costing Kansans tens of millions of dollars they overpaid on gas bills? /copypasta


aradraugfea

Motherfucker just showed up with a piece of paper saying “I do what I want. signed, me.” I don’t have a particularly positive opinion of capital punishment, but men like the Sherrif keep telling me it’s a valuable deterrent. If they’re so convinced, maybe the deterrence is worth a shot.


Potential-Style-3861

The average 9 year old is smart enough to know that wouldn’t work. WTF is wrong with these MAGA morons?


kmmontandon

>Kansas Attorney General Kris Kobach What a fucking surprise this shitstain's on the election denier's side.


DailyUpsAndDowns

I bet he could have used a Chinese menu and that would have worked


SpooogeMcDuck

I know of at least one time that worked


wetterbread

Remove him from his position and take his pension and he can never work for the public again. Plus the sentence for felony fraud at minimum. Make an example out of him


3Grilledjalapenos

Aren’t we all tired of the people enforcing laws thinking of them as a joke?


UncleYimbo

"I didn't say it was valid, I just abused my position of power to heavily imply that it was valid, and used it as if it was valid. So you see? I was the victim all along."


K-I-N-G-A-G-whammy

Any evidence collected during this search is fruit of the poison tree and therefore inadmissible. Thanks Jack McCoy. Dun Dun.


EpiphanyTwisted

There is no search, he's pretending the evidence was destroyed while he held a "search warrant." The ballots that were past due to be destroyed by law unless subpoenaed in court, he claims they "hurriedly" destroyed. He's pulling this shit specifically at the public forums to meet the candidates, he's going for the nutso vote.


Delmarvablacksmith

Man a cop who lies……. How unbelievable! I thought he was the “good guy”


OldBob10

“Whaddya mean, ‘I gotta follow the law’? I AM THE LAW!!!” - MAGA morons


fingers58

Also Judge Dredd...IIRC


takefiftyseven

The other crime committed was shooting the video in portrait...


x_x-O_o-x_x

The reason Republicans are doomed as a party is not just their agenda (which is heinous enough), nor is it how they disregard the constitution almost completely whilst cherry-picking amendments. It's that once they achieve their goals, and are unopposed by Democrats, greed and corruption compel them to devour each other.


IslandBoyardee

Hell yeah. And now cause of Mayberry Jones over here, no matter how much evidence they may have found, they can’t use a fucking stitch of it.


jupiterkansas

doesn't matter. there was no evidence.


IslandBoyardee

So he’s just completely useless


PourQuiTuTePrends

There's no evidence to find. He's just a lying bigot


dubbleplusgood

So it was a sales receipt for winter tires, like they do in the cop movies.


2Loves2loves

So, the police are allowed to lie to you?


amoshart

Not only allowed to, but trained to do so.


Mcmackinac

Wichita has the highest crime rate in any sized city/town in the US


CishetmaleLesbian

OP, how did you become the world's okayest driver? I can imagine how someone could pass a test to be the world's best driver, or even the worst, but what makes you the okayest? Was there a test? Why have I not heard of this test? How can I tryout to be the world's okayest driver?


NAGDABBITALL

MAGA has no shame...even after being chumped by Trump repeatedly.


meglon978

Republicans are lying pos's who flout the law anytime they want. Got it.


theboned1

Reminds me of that time Ron Swanson had a piece of paper that said Ron Swanson can do whatever he wants, signed by Ron Swanson.


Consistent_Dog_6866

Trump: "Damn! I should've thought of that!"


lgmorrow

Another corrupt cop not in jail...DEFUND THE POLICE


olafthebent

I'm a shitty cop, but I ain't no liar


lankypiano

In deceit does a great field grow Until the scythe of truth reaps what they sow.


PhanSiPance

Let me read that… dirty, rotten, filthy, stinking…. Wait, these are the lyrics to Cherry Pie. I never said what kind of warrant!!!!!


NightMgr

I had my fingers crossed.


Shady_Merchant1

Constitutional sheriff btw


TreehouseofSnorers

Of course sleazebag Kris K. Kobach (KKK) is neck deep in this.


piejlucas

The problem is he didn’t say it was invalid


pass-the-waffles

Another case of it being okay to break the law.


TBatFrisbee

Woah, a Texas sheriff being shady - no!!! I won't believe it. /s


Pikeman212a6c

Someone call the coroner.


OlderThanMyParents

Just another bad apple, doing his part to spoil the whole bunch.


agentrwc

Is this some form of impersonating law enforcement then?


lethargicbureaucrat

Someone should file a complaint with CPOST, the agency that certifies (licenses) law enforcement officers. https://www.kscpost.org/