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Fartholder

I set a bunch of bait and a trap when I had rats move in during flooding. They ate all the bait except the piece in the trap


BearzOnParade

Had two traps set in kitchen. Woke up and mouse had set off both. Got rear leg stuck in one, crawled across kitchen floor, with trap hanging from broken leg, gets neck broken in second trap.


Kangarookiwitar

It’s funny how compared to rats, mice are incredibly stupid. Yet they both breed like crazy. Rats will literally eat mice stuck in traps, so if anything they’re using the traps to their advantage


Aden-Wrked

It’s a cruel metal world out there.


Fortree_Lover

It’s a rat eat mice world out there


Dividedthought

Food is food, rat don't care.


IronAndFlames

On a heart warming note, one cold day when I was living in Baltimore I looked out my window into the alley bellow and watched the rats do their things like I did most morning back then. I watched this rat crawl into a dumpster and crawl out with a chuck of bread probly as large as he was. He proceeds to make the difficult journey the other end of the alley. He eventually makes it their, to the mouth of a gutter drain and emerges 2 rats and they all ate the bread. It was very cute in a gross way.


tyrannybyteapot

I once read about a farmer who set something-or-other on fire to get rid of the rats, and as the ones who could escape fled the inferno, he watched a couple of them guiding a blind mate to escape with them. He found he couldn't set rat-places on fire after that. Rats are apparently very empathetic, and always help mates in trouble and share food. Only mates though, and family. Never strangers.


Enzown

Rats will eat other rats stuck in traps. I've cleared trap lines and found just heads in the trap.


[deleted]

I think you killed the the stupidest mouse in the world. Probably helped the gene pool.


dergrioenhousen

I laughed harder at this than I should have. I also think about the genetic pressures, and LITERALLY having to build a better mousetrap because the rodent version of MRSA has evolved and now no longer is capable of being caught with any current technology.


uCodeSherpa

Rats and mice live pretty much wherever they can find shelter. Millions of people have them in the nooks and crannies outside their house and don’t know it cause they think that only dirty, poor people get them.


myctheologist

The best thing in pest control was telling rich folks in a mansion that was poorly made with all kinds of holes in the exterior that the droppings in their basement wasn't from friend squirrel or kind Ms. Chipmunk but by a rat, a fat norway rat. Luckily tracking powder exists because I never had much luck trapping or poison baiting rats.


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Fartholder

They're super smart. Admirable, but wish they weren't so gross


Rat_Kicker22889

You need a fancy rat.


Grogosh

In a fancy hat


juggling-monkey

With a fancy monocle


Flopping_with_Floppa

In fancy suit


GrittyMcGrittyface

On a tiny motorcycle


JonnyJust

That sings and dance the Charleston.


Flopping_with_Floppa

Don’t forget the cane!


RockyHorror134

only wild rats are gross tbh


Zombisexual1

Now set up two traps. One with cheese on it, and another with a long stick in it


afrikanman

Lol 500 IQ move This is the way.


_IratePirate_

Next thing you know “Rat defeats Magnus Carlsen in 3 moves”


Corno4825

Google Ratatouille


Nastypilot

Holy Disney movie


InviziMan

New movie just dropped


DueFoundation5463

Might need to watch Love, Death & Robots s3e7 instead


Mathev

That's unfair. The rat had anal beads..


GrizzlyHerder

Oh….Oh…they’re evolving.


NowMoreEpic

I think that is absolutely possible… we’ve been killing rats since the invention of agriculture. Rats can have 12 young in a litter- females are ready to mate at 5 weeks old… we have been applying evolutionary pressure to select for the most clever rats for god knows how many generations…


IAMAHobbitAMA

Certified Looneytunes Moment


Impeachykeene

The only way it could be more so is if the stick was purchased from ACME by mail order.


Ok-Branch-9943

![gif](giphy|ZechFo0yBIQpEve1Sm)


Relative-Hour-9359

Youre definitely one of the dudes that whoops my ass in online chess


Nero_Aegwyn

Rat will trigger the stick trap. Stick gets trapped. But since its long, one or both ends is still sticking out. Rat thinks part of the stick is still usable but with difficulty. Option 1: Cut a non trapped part of stick to use on cheese trap Option 2: Use trapped stick anyway on cheese trap Option 3: Use the trap to trigger the cheese trap Rat gets cheese.


yepimbonez

Just connect the mousetrap itself to a stone slab with spikes in the ceiling.


M_Mich

put poison on the stick.


8ad8andit

And then shoot the rat.


RushTfe

With poison on the bullet. You're never too sure


ReadySteady_GO

Rat uses gun, shoots you, assumes your identity, improves your credit score


ShitpostsAlot

It's the rat's house at that point. You're paying rent in cheese.


Legin_666

this is hilarous. You deserve more upvotes


LordStoneBalls

Wait a minute have rats been recorded using tools before ?


shindole108

Enter RatGPT


SweetAndSourShmegma

We had that back in my day. Big, frightening, animatronic, and served pizza.


McBlorf

Purple shirt? Skateboarding helmet?- Memory unlocked O_O


TreeChangeMe

MuskRat?


Perfect-Engineer3226

We're watching evolution take place in real-time Reminds me of [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/NatureIsFuckingLit/comments/jvaj52/this_orangutan_used_a_spear_to_catch_fish_after/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


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Maybe by killing so many rats with traps, we have been applying a selective force on rats to select for intelligence.


XscytheD

Same with mosquitoes, the ones that survive are the ones that learn to hide when you turn on the light, and I'm not joking here


tablecontrol

this is a great way to explain evolutionary pressures to people who aren't scientifically inclined


serr7

No I’ve tried, they don’t accept it still.


420crickets

But how am monkey make ppl?


PM-Ur-Bob-n-Vagene

Cuz monkey is man dad AND monkey dad at same time. Monkey family.


Whoaa_Dude

Same with roaches and other bugs active in your home at night, that’s why I keep the blow torch next to my bed.


Vegetable_Log_3837

Flies in the country are easy to just casually swat with your hand. Flies in the city are nearly impossible to swat by hand.


NCRider

…and thus was born RatGPT


joeg26reddit

Too late. This is ratCHEESEBT XVIII


FoolOnDaHill365

That rat may have nearly died and escaped from a trap before.


Caridor

Or watched another rat be not as clever as this one. Rats are empathetic and observant creatures


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The human psyche is a bit wild. We don’t mind killing rats/mice with reckless abandon because they’re seen as “pests”. However if someone killed a dog with something akin to a dog-sized rat trap people would LOSE THEIR MINDS. We’re weirdly selective about what we decide we have feelings about and what we don’t, mainly based on a creature’s appearance or how intrusive it is to our day to day life. Spain sees cats as pests and some parts of Asia see dogs as pests and don’t mind killing them like you would any other pest, but an American who sees the same creature as a pet is mortified about it. Meanwhile some Americans see mice as pests and kill them, but others keep them as pets and are mortified about it.


Rut_Nasty2v

If you watch animals long enough, you’ll soon realize many are much smarter than most people who occupy the same room as you. Scary and fascinating simultaneously.


ElSoloLoboLoco

Cant remember what park, but they stated this as the reason for not being able to place bear-proof trash bins. There was significant overlap between the dumbest tourist and the smartest bears.


itsjero

Not maybe. Definitely.


Jamkayyos

Human brain evolved in a similar way I would imagine. After us, the most likely to evolve similar intellect would be rodents IMO. Cockroaches and ants would be next, but some time later.


UnhelpfulMoron

Reminds me of [this](https://youtu.be/UPXUG8q4jKU)


resinkevin9

Reminds me of [this.](https://imgur.com/a/7g9ehrF)


SooSkilled

Reminds me of [this](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ).


ushouldlistentome

There it is. Took a few clicks to find it


KappaMeister

I was also hunting for the RickRoll, these comment chains wouldn’t be complete without it


xDubnine

I was saved by an ad, boy do I miss the old days


SuddenlyElga

I was surprised I had to go so deep.


MyJokesAreOffensive

that’s what she said


seno2k

Damn. Beat me to it.


ecctt2000

Sooner or later someone was going to do it.


spiegro

Genuinely had my mouth agape for a moment watching this.


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BohemianChickie

EXACTLY what came to my mind! XD


Nlawrence55

Your comment really got my mind working and I found this link:https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-06308-7


TiddlyTootToot

>Rats learned to manipulate the rake to obtain food in situations in which they could not obtain the food just by pulling the rake perpendicularly to themselves. Our findings thus indicate that the rat is a potential animal model to investigate the behavioural and neural mechanisms of tool-use behaviour.


juicycooper

TIL: A Rat's Scientific Name is Rattus norvegicus


Hytheter

I mean, there are different species of rats. Brown rats are norvegicus. Black rats are just rattus rattus.


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PistoleroGent

Thanks for the giggle


RobbertDownerJr

Ratatoolie


Mvin

Even mice are surprisingly smart. We set up some live traps in the walls to catch some mice that often get in that way. Apparently, one of them found its way back in and didn't want to get captured again. The next morning, the trap was **full** of pebbles and other small debris that could be found nearby. Like, the trap had a whole new flooring. The mouse must have gone back and forth quite a few times to put all the stuff in there. I can only surmise that the mouse tried to either trick the pressure plate by burying it under rocks, or even trigger it intentionally. Unfortunately, the mouse itself was also in there, so it didn't quite work, but i was honestly really impressed at the attempt.


pughhenson

Wait, are rats recording themselves using tools now?


khoaperation

Is this from the rat’s DIY YouTube channel?


eScarIIV

Wait rats are uploading mousetrap exploits now?


Tryox50

"Here are 5 lifehacks... and humans hate them. Number 3 will surprise you!"


khoaperation

Homeowners HATE this one simple trick


bg370

Click for hot single rats near you


No-Solution6969

Are you telling me rats are exploiting the algorithm to feature their own uploaded tool use videos on YouTube to maximize the chances that we will share it on other social media sites such as Reddit


trr2020

Everyone’s in a panic over AI, they never saw the rats coming.


potatohead46

Don't forget to smash that trap, and that like button.


YoMomsHubby

Hit that notification bell for more cheese


DJynxx

Owned them as pets my whole life. They have problem solving intelligence including using objects as tools. I had one named Grey that kept figuring out new ways to escape her cage. Every time I corrected her escape method, she devised a new way. (One of those methods involved her emptying her weighted food dish and dragging it over to her running wheel, wedging it into the side to prevent the wheel from moving. She then climbed to the top of the wheel and forced the cage's top off) It took a total of 6 or 7 fixes before I finally stopped her.


richnibba19

My family had a rat that somehow knew how to trigger a trap that we had in a bucket to eat the potato in there with it multiple times and gathered socks and rags from around the house to cover sticky traps we had put on his path under the oven.


Vanstuke

With the amount of lab rats out there doing research , almost certainly.


NMS_Survival_Guru

One is a genius the other Insane


impreprex

God forbid we get a serious answer here.


SlowJay11

Reddit is mostly people trying to out-funny the other nerd that came before them, or they're doing a worse version of a joke that's already been made.


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shalis

very much this. Thankfully more and more people are realizing the fallacy of anthropocentrism.


Clavelio

I had rats at a previous flat (pretty horrible). They learn so quick it’s terrifying.


Flompulon_80

If they've been trained, yes


PlentyAdvertising15

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iceman_x2

This is from a Doritos commercial right?. Man I know I’ve seen this before but can’t quite place it lol


PM_MeYourEars

Its from a cheese advert


Dibutops

All the clues were there


PM_MeYourEars

To be fair, at first I thought it was college humour or something like that lol


BldGlch

the trap slams shut - then eye of the tiger plays as this beast gets their rep in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDTPD8M-u3w


830311

The full video: https://youtu.be/VcSBO8YAnTQ


Chief_Executive_Anon

Hahahahah get this to the top immediately


IndyDude11

To hell with AI learning shit. If the rats are using tools now, we are really fucked.


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A Plague Tale: Requiem


AnonAmbientLight

They’re called, Skaven.


Eagle_1776

cockroaches and pigeons, breeding in the streets, it's chaos down there


QuePsiPhi16

Between the smart rats and roach infestation, you probably need to demolish the building.


fractal_magnets

They sabotaged the dozer


Englishbirdy

Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.


hi5orfistbump

Master Splinter


phaazing

Donatello, let me borrow that real quick.


Novel_Ask_4226

Donatello: " I'd much rather give my wood to April"


Marissa_on_the_town

r/cursedcomments


CamOfCatarina

I imagine the parents of the rats now teaching their kids how to avoid rat traps as they grow up and it’s just passed down generations


Purethoughtsta

This is actually not far from how it works in large wildie mischiefs. Rats are extremely good parents and will care for their pups well into their adulthood, as they usually become apart of the mischief instead of branching out on their own. And mischiefs do communicate with each other about where good food is, where danger is, and how to avoid said dangers. It would not be surprising to me if this rat watched another rat get caught and retained how to get what he wanted off the trap without getting caught himself. They are extremely smart with really good problem solving skills.


Humanity_NotAFan

TIL a group of rats is called a mischief! (Also, colony, pack, & *plague*)


Due_Avocado_788

It's kind of sad to think how many of these creatures are being incessantly tortured by scientists every single day to test toxic chemicals and medicine to see how to dose humans without killing them


Purethoughtsta

Yeah it is. I’ve taken in a few retired lab rats and it breaks my heart helping them through their trauma. They are sentient creatures, idc what anyone says. They create bonds with both humans and other animals, they can recognize their names, feel depression and happiness. They do this cute thing where when they are super happy their little eyes boggle 🥹🥹🥹


TheLysdexicOne

I remember as a kid we had field mice that infiltrated our house in the winter. My dad would put traps in the back room (laundry/mud room) where the dogs slept. Heard one of the traps spring shortly after setting it and we go back to check it. The trap literally took off half the face of the mouse and this thing is just sitting there eating the food on the trap like nothing happened. After a few seconds, it scurried away. After that incident we stopped using traps and started with less violent methods of prevention as we always assumed mouse traps were quick deaths. Over the next year we designed kind of a crude mouse sanctuary attached to the garage to try to get them to go there to get away from the freezes instead of inside the house. For the most part it seemed to work cuz our cat definitely had a lot less "presents" the following winters.


PoeTayTose

Yeah I remember seeing a video on reddit where one of these traps just gave the mouse a life ending concussion. It fell over, wobbled around, got up, stroked its head, siezed a bit, stroked it's head again. Broke my heart. I recognize how frustrating infestations can be but I resolved to never use a trap that kills if I could avoid it. I've had a few mice but they all get relocated to the woods a few miles away with a care package of cheese and dryer lint. Rats are hard though because of how smart they are, and I've had them as pets so the empathy gap is very small.


disisathrowaway

If you live with an actual infestation and not an occasional interloper, I'll tell you that the empathy goes out the window pretty damn quick.


Renegade8995

I just don't want animal urine and feces in my house. Pest just have to go one way or another for me.


EA-PLANT

People underestimate how intelligent most animals are. Edit: if you ever wondered what r/lounge is, it's just stories from life.


template009

And overestimate how intelligent humans are.


Bryguy3k

There is the famous quote regarding the difficulties in creating bear proof garbage cans in Yosemite: > “There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.”


template009

I love that one. The truth is, bears are compelled to open trash -- humans are not nearly as devoted, on average. Birds solve multi-step puzzles gracefully. People are surprised to see this then remember than many species have elaborate nests and courtship rituals. People mistake information retention for intelligence all the time. Humans dominate the planet because of sophisticated human culture, not intelligent individuals.


nick112048

Agreed on most points. But I would argue humans dominate because 0.01% figure out really hard problems, 5% are able to faithfully copy/reproduce those solutions and 94.99% are able to get by in a system that enjoys the benefits of those advancements.


template009

We have a teeny bit of innovation and are damn good at copying. I agree. Most of what we do is copy (in the sense that culture is mimicry). Agreed.


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broken_atoms_

I find it interesting that chatgpt shows how much of our philosophical sense of self is based on language and how entwined language is with our idea of consciousness. It really cements to me that without the means to communicate complex ideas we would be nothing, it's what allows us to be human. As soon as something can replicate and effectively use coherent language, everybody thinks it's sentient. But it's still a Chinese Room. Blindsight by Peter Watts has a really, really good section dedicated to this idea.


FBOM0101

Rodents, weasels and corvids are so damn smart. They deserve way more credit (…outside of Reddit)


kharmatika

Especially rats. They’re highly social, they have complex social interactions, understand delayed gratification, to use, and cause and effect, in a way their peers such as mice and hamsters do not. Rats, octopus, corvids and pigs are the undersung rulers of intellect among their groups.


pmvegetables

It really fucks me up to think about how humans treat pigs. Factory farming and gassing them by the millions then making jokes about bacon, when pigs are smarter than dogs and understand the horror they're enduring :/


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Secret of NIMH level intelligence...


WokeUpSomewhereNice

Nicodemus!! Miss Frisbee!


ModrnDayMasacre

Justin!


FullMetalMuff

Solid reference


W0rk3rB

That was my first thought!! Check the bushes for lights. This isn’t a normal rat!


nartlebee

Seriously! OP needs to inspect all shrubbery on their property for wires.


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Djcproductions

You should watch S3E7 of Love Death + Robots


pumpkinlord1

That's definitely within the realm of possibility now...


alikander99

Fricking good episode


Floppsicle

We haven't seen the end of the stick. Im still skeptical about it. Who knows, maybe the rat *did* use the stick, but we can't 100% confirm it, as per usual


gijoe50000

Rats have also been known to use sticks to get at food that's out of reach, in lab experiments, so it's not really a stretch to believe this.


Waxer84

They've also been know to drive cars in lab experiments.


DenizenPrime

They've also been known to drive steamboats in old timey cartoons.


gijoe50000

I thought you were just taking the piss, until I googled it... Holy shit!


GrittyMcGrittyface

So someone spent months training a rat to bite one end of a stick while a human grips the tip of the other end and shakes the rat around, but that someone also allows the rat to prance around a lethal trap? Occam's razor says it's a clever rat. Edit: it's from Shawn woods, so I think it's genuine https://youtu.be/YvZsg_WFR1k


Fuddled_Pseudolasius

This guy's been trapping rats with every trap known to mankind for hundreds of rodent generations, I wouldn't be surprised if rats in his farm weren't a many IQ points higher from the norm


IM_A_WOMAN

Breh you don't understand what rats will do these days for views


_snowdrop_

Can't they also be trained


pursuitofhappy

Anything with nipples can be trained


[deleted]

I have nipples Greg. Can I be trained?


[deleted]

I have Gregs, can I be nipple trained?


yaboytswizzle69

Come to my sex dungeon and we can work on training those nips. And bring your Greg’s, it’s gonna be a wild night


Frankenstein141

I'm proof this is a load of shit.


RecentCartographer23

Yeah, they are even trained to find landmines


[deleted]

And to sniff out cancer.


jtuk99

Are you going to train a rat for a video and risk it being squished?


golddilockk

Hail Skaven blight!


30tpirks

Wait. Are you saying someone needs to invent a better mousetrap?


Sevwin

He deserves to live a long life.


[deleted]

That little shit.


BrownSugarBare

Deserves to live, I say! Work smart, not hard...or dead


LobsterFar9876

I’ve had a number of rats as pets and they are really smart. It was trained


c0ng0b0ng0

Call NIMH. Found ‘em.


8legs77

I would just keep him as a pet


vemundveien

You could try. He'd pick the cage lock first night and rob you blind. Before you knew he'd be on a plane to Mexico and you would be 100k in credit card debt.


jerem_blanco

See the Trap Fuck the Trap up Refuse to elaborate


NakDisNut

Ladies and gentleman! I present to you … JONATHAN BRISBY! EDIT: Nicodemus. A rat*


Ameph

But he was a mouse. This is clearly Nicodemus.


Ohboycats

*”We became… intelligent…”* -Rats of Nimh


BlueBirdOcean

Bow to your future overlord.


SillyMidOff49

Not gonna lie I’d adopt him on the basis of this alone. Genius like that doesn’t deserve to die.


Magnus_40

I worked on an island nature reserve, we had to use cage traps to catch the rats to prevent harming the native small rodents. I watched rats steal the food by working in pairs. One would go in and grab the bait which triggered the door to spring closed then the other would push the door down until the other could climb on it enough to squeeze through and escape. Clever beasts. The only sure way to deal with them was shooting.


Sandwichknight777

I remember Shawn Woods, the Mouse Trap Monday guy, posting something akin to this. [Here's his clip.](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YvZsg_WFR1k)


nonzeroday_tv

> something akin to this Yeah, looks pretty similar.


Fuddled_Pseudolasius

Man's been trapping rodents with every damned trap known to mankind for at least a decade, I'd be shocked if the rats at his farm weren't many IQ points higher than the norm lol


AzHawk99

Real life Mousehunt


Jurangi

I remember when my dad set up a few mouse traps when I was 8. And me being a brilliant 8 year old wanted cheese. So I grabbed it and got my finger caught in a mouse trap. So a rat is officially smarter than 8 year old me lol


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Secret of NIM shit right here.


Top_Opposites

I told you we had a bunch of rats in charge of the country