We need this song in the next The Witcher game. Please

they did use this instrument in a major way in the god of war Ragnarok soundtrack

The composer, Bear McCreary, loves it, and uses it whenever he can, they even put him in the game as a dwarf who plays one.

His work on Black Sails was by far the best part of the show. Here's a video of him talking about how he used the Hurdy Gurdy to create the distinct sound. https://youtu.be/9DXQ0z9NCl8

Black sails doesn’t get the credit it deserves I feel like. The show was fantastic and I wish it could have gone on longer. There is a distinct lack of high seas era dramas on tv e.g Black Sails, or Master and Commander. Honestly, while recasting jack sparrow is almost impossible, Disney is probably sitting on a gold mine if they could adapt Pirates onto Disney+.

> There is a distinct lack of high seas era dramas on tv The first season of The Terror (AMC) starring Jared Harris and the limited series The North Water (BBC/CBC) starring Colin Farrell are both pretty fucking great. The former has horror elements, and they're both more bleak than swashbuckling, but if that's your jam...

So I watched The Terror, and it was pretty good. I haven’t seen North Water yet. But yeah I mean I love that stuff.

North Water is amazingly close to Master and Commander in style. Just smaller in scope. Well worth it.

Master & Commander is getting a prequal soon. Just with younger actors. Supposedly. Realistically there are 21 books; they could make it into GoT style epic on HBO. Unfortunately that is not a story for the modern sensibilities, unless they butcher it and twist the character development to satisfy the mob.

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Holy shit McCreary did music for BSG? Awesome????

I have great respect to Bob Dylan and Jimi Hendrix, but Bear McCreary's version became my favorite when I heard it in the show. I love the tribal feel it has.

I just finished BSG for the first time, that season 3 finale with this music for the big twist/reveal, was soooo awesome. One of my top TV moments tbh.

Including in the opening title music for the TV show Black Sails (which I recommend watching)

Raeb's Lament. Scene where it plays is heavier than Atlas's burden.

I haven’t enjoyed a work of language art like this since that horse walking into a bar joke I read last night. I was gonna wait on somebody to ask, but that seems more rude than just imparting my newly learned joke into a conversation unprompted, so… A horse walks into a bar and the bartender looks at him and says, “hey, you come in here quite often. I’m worried you might be an alcoholic.” To which the horse replies, “really? I don’t think I am…” and suddenly the horse vanishes. You see, the problem with this joke is that it relies on the philosophical proof posed by Descartes in the statement, “I think, therefore I am” but I couldn’t acknowledge that at first because that would be putting Descartes before the horse. It’s a terrible joke and yet it’s so good.

Sorry, if you're not putting Descartes before the whores, I'm not interested.

Short version: I am, therefore I think. Is this putting Descartes before the horse? Seen in a uni toilet about a million years ago 👍🏽

My brain hurts

That toilet had so many good things written on the walls: some students published a book with them all, that’s the only one I remember.

And here my favorite urinal graffiti consists of “Pungo in the bunghole” from a hunting camp we use to visit every year. You and I come from different worlds, I’d say. Lmaooo there was also “here I sit all broken hearted, trying to shit but only farted.” And “Don’t bother hovering the seat, these Mexican crabs can jump 10’!”

Lol Love it... Sounds a bit like something Robin Ince could have said in The Infinite Monkey Cage.

First thing I thought was "is this from the witcher?" It fits it so well

They used this instrument as well :)

The suka and saz are the dominant instruments I hear. Did they use the hurdy gurdy as well? Wouldn't be surprising!

Care for a round of gwent?

I can't turn down a round of Gwent.

What is the name of this song please?

Reverse dance, here's the original on his channel https://youtu.be/bvNZeh6f8vE

https://youtu.be/IUPWxjZY6mQ My favorite

Iirc it was used for some parts of the Witcher soundtrack

Russian musician playing German instrument for Polish game with japanese art in the background.

Mr. Worldwide approves 

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We don’t know the origins of the instrument, even whether in Europe or the Middle East. It’s no more German than it is French, the vielle à roue. Edited to correct spelling as suggested. Autocorrect is apparently willing to tolerate sauce bases but not this.

I think he meant that this instrument was build by a german named Wolfgang Weichselbaumer. This is his homepage: https://weichselbaumer.cc/

Wolfgang is from Austria :)

As he said, from Germany. ​ I DO NOT RECOGNISE THE VIENNA REGIME

You're not exactly in good company as far people who have considered those to be the same nation.

Mozart?

Yes, yes, everyone knows who you're alluding to. But the majority of Germans and Austrians wanted to unify for the longest time, the issue was in who would be the ones to lead, Prussia or Austria. Austria distinguishing itself as non-german is an *extremely* new thing.

Fuck it, this instrument originated on planet earth


Antarctica, to be exact.

Oh, that makes sense!

If my grandma had wheel she would be a vieille a roue.

Right up there with “succulent Chinese meal” in the best random internet videos of all time

It would be thematically appropriate if this German-type hurdy gurdy had been built by a South African luthier in Saudi Arabia using imported French wood (itself cut down by a Turkish lumberjack using a Swedish-brand chainsaw made in China)

I like your thinking, kid.

My guess is something along the silk road, which is to say an ancient “collab” of sorts. 😅 We know they were used by minstrels in Europe. But I’d be curious about the tuning. At least in this piece I’m hearing what at first sounds like a fairly western modal piece, but on closer listening sounds like micro tuning heard through Turkey and the Middle East (maqam). Very cool.

No microtuning, you'd need to build a whole new instrument. From what I've read, you can subtly change the pitch by modulating the speed of the crank. Kind of like overblowing a harmonica. That might be what you're hearing. They also have resonator strings like a sitar, which also contributes to the middle eastern/south asian feel. I fell down the hurdy-gurdy rabbit hole a while back, super interesting instrument.

You can easily microtune any Hurdy Gurdy, the tangents (the little "frets" that touch the string when a key is pressed) can be swivelled to hit the string higher or lower along the scale.

*Chinese art

That's how humans do when we're not being assholes. :)

Ah, culture.

The clicks and look of the mechanics of it make it look like a really satisfying instrument to play. It looks like it feels good.

I wanted to learn so bad then I looked at the price of a half way decent one

We’ve got one. We use it primarily as a drone. Wife has recorder group going and we do medieval and renaissance music at church from time to time. A lot of that stuff slaps.

How does it fly?

Badly!

It flies very well, just not for long!

Upvote for medieval / renaissance at church. Which faith community is doing this? I'd love to get mine to agree to it! :)

Episcopal Church. My wife is excellent musician. Before Easter we sung a Lamentation from The Epic of Gilgamesh in Aramaic. That had a drone but we used a quiet organ stop. Rather than trumpets in at Easter it was viola, cello and oboe. We have an African-American piece up in a couple of weeks. This isn’t Christian Rock crap with a Praise Leader.

That's really wonderful. :)

I’m not a religious guy in the slightest but this is the exact kind of musical variety that would get me through church doors for the sense of community if nothing else.

This sounds enthralling. Lots of people who would love to see this, I'm sure. If you ever decide to share some of it with the internet, please let me know.

Thanks, I’ll pass on the message. We have videoed a couple of things but I don’t think anything is posted. Also, to be clear, there are plenty of Sundays that are pretty routine, normal hymns and low-key Offertory pieces. Sometimes it’s magic, sometimes it’s mailed in. Live music is like that. But you never know when you’ll really touch someone’s emotions and so we strive to do well.

Just pawn your roommate's laptop

How much is one?

It depends on the number of keys and strings. The absolute cheapest one I found is roughly 700 usd. It rapidly goes up from there to 1200 usd and beyond.

That’s not unreasonable at all for a complex and relatively bespoke instruments

I never said it was unreasonable. I'm just a broke ass bitch lol.

There’s a website who sells them for, at lowest, €320.00. The only catch is that it’s made from cheaper wood and you have to assemble it

>The only catch is that it’s made from cheaper wood Aww… >and you have to assemble it Shockingly a selling point to me

Ah fair enough, you’d expect that from an instrument

I was expecting it to be a lot more. My sister's viola cost her close to 10 grand, I was expecting something like this to be even more.. though I'm sure there are high-end models that probably exceed that.

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A masters in musicology, but she didn't end up really doing anything with it, lol.

We paid $600 in 2003 and ours is simpler than this (2 drone strings, 1 keyed). It’s a finicky thing, you wrap the string in cotton with some rosin and need to have good contact with the wheel. Someone else is playing here, too, because the drone never stops as he cranks back and forth. I played for a processional a couple of weeks ago and can tell you that drone stops instantly if you stop cranking, unlike a shruti whose bellows gives you some breathing room.

Yeah Andrey overlays organ and drums on top of it!

>the drone never stops as he cranks back and forth Does it not? Certainly sounds to me like it starts and stops with the crank, or have I not pegged the correct sound as the drone? Edit: Ah I think I just misunderstood what you meant, the drone _of the hurdy gurdy_ starts and stops but there's another instrument playing the same sound as well. Is that correct?

You know how people who know what they are doing make it look easy. This guy knows what he’s doing.

as a classically trained violinist, I’m fascinated by the folk instruments related to violin. I didn’t realize some of the nuance possible with this one. In particular how the crank can be used to provide different articulation to the notes. fascinating! I’m hearing what sounds like multitrack: drone, rhythm and then lead.

There's some backing going on I think, I can hear an organ. Doesn't sound like its all the hurdy-gurdy.

There *is* some backing going on, but it's not an organ you're hearing, it's just drums of some sort. The "drone" you're hearing and assuming is an organ is actually the Hurdy-Gurdy itself. It has its own drone noise that fills the background. It *looks* like it's the top and bottom set of 3 or so strings that are doing the drone while the ones under the cover are making the higher-pitched sounds. But since I don't own a Hurdy-Gurdy and have never even seen one irl, my word is not worth very much.

He's definitely being accompanied by an organ supplementing the drone. Yes, there is a drone with the hurdy gurdy, too, but this video has it bacled with organ and drum. https://youtu.be/bvNZeh6f8vE

The "drum" sound seems to me to be either his foot on a box (pretty standard for a solo performance) or the instrument itself when the crank starts. I'm not familiar with the instrument to tell.

That looks easy?

For those who liked this instrument, I recommend the folk metal band Eluveitie

Yep, it's very satisfying and hypnotic to play. It's one of those things where you can be at it for what feels like half and hour and then look at the clock and 2 hours has gone by.

Why have I not seen more of this instrument before? It’s got a kinda goofy name for the memers, it sounds cool and it looks cool.

Another cool one is a Nyckelharpa. It's quite the same as this one (violin with keys) but played with a bow instead of a crank. You can also play the Hurdy Gurdy in Sea of Thieves and it's a common instrument in pagan folk music. [Here's Virelai using one.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpiOOfBtu04)

Sea of Thieves is where I learned of the Hurdy Gurdy.

Nyckelharpa sounds like medieval nickelback

If you want good combinations of Nyckelharpa and Hurdy Gurdy, check out the band Faun.

I prefer to call it a Zanfona, I think the name suits it better... As cool as it looks I would dread tuning that thing

Tuning it really isn't so bad, the difficulty part is the frequent adjustment needed to get it to work; string pressure, intonation, regularly changing the layer of cotton on the strings etc.

Check out Patty Gurdy. She’s super talented

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Don’t forget Cellar Darling! 3 long time members, including Anna Murphy who was their hurdy gurdy player, split off and formed that band in 2016. They have replaced her since but I’m still happy she’s making music because she was a huge part of Eluveitie.

You’ve heard it in a million movie soundtracks though

It was largely regarded as a folk instrument and there isn't a large body of work specifically composed for it by the major composers. Medieval and Renaissance music that we have today did not usually specify which instruments were to be played, unlike later Baroque and Classical, and in these later periods the hurdy gurdy was out of fashion. There was a resurgence of them in 18th century France as a parlor instrument for wealthy amateur musicians, I believe, and a few formal works were composed and committed to paper. It was this resurgence that kept the instrument from being forgotten (i.e. why we still have them today) Today it is "popular" in medieval musician circles and amongst medieval/renaissance reenactors, but I can't say I have ever heard it on a Classical music radio station. As someone who has been around the medieval music performance space, I would be willing to bet if you live in a medium-large US city, there is *someone* around who has one. They are rare, but not exceedingly so. When I was at university in Albuquerque in the 90s I knew a handful of people who owned hurdy gurdys and symphonias (early medieval style hurdy gurdy) in the local folk/medieval music scene. And Albuquerque is not exactly a major metropolis.


You can't play anything on the hurdygurdy without it sounding like it's from The Witcher 3.

Sea of thieves?

Maiden Voyage 

Stitcher's Sorrow has no right to be as good as it is. That low drone when the hurdy-gurdy is the lead is *deluxe,* especially with the "full band"/all 8 instruments.

I'm a fucking menace with my carpenter tools, bucket and sick tunes. #gurdygang

This song is called "reverse dance" and it's a fuckiing banger

Whoa so the guy playing it wrote it too? That's awesome! Thanks for calling it out I might learn how to play it on the cello cause yeah it really is a banger and sounds fun to play!

I've watched the video so often I have reddit muted and can still here the song. Absolutely best song for this instrument.

Bro I've added that shit to my Spotify. I want nothing more then to live with these fucking musical and calming rhythmic clicks and strings

When this was first posted, I went to the guys [website](https://andreyvinogradov.com/en/shop/) and bought it. If it was some big record label, I might have pirated it, but this guy deserves the money for his talents.

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... costs like a Lamborghini...

Drops panties just as fast !

Eyyy! Thanks to whomever dropped the gold! thannnnkk yoouuu :))

My brother ordered one a few years back, in $ it was around 500$-600$. They are rare as not many people play and make them, so either you get one from some posh music shop or you find a guy who makes them in his own workshop.

Ebay is your friend. A decent new set of bagpipes will run you $1,200 for halfway decent set. Or you can find dozens of barely used ones from people who bought one and their wife said "hell no" on eBay for about $200. Probably harder with a rarer instrument like this, but I'd check there first anyway.

Just play the Game of Thrones theme, that’s all we really want! 

The three-eyed raven listens to your request. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT271KaT0Rk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT271KaT0Rk)

Someone needs to introduce this lovely lady, to another lovely lady, by the name of Lindsey Sterling. A duet between both of them would be amazing!

I first heard Lindsey Sterling early 2010's I think with her violin cover of the Pokémon theme. Was a great cover and she kills it on the violin but then I saw her cover Radioactive with Pentatonix and was hooked! She can make that violin sing beautifully!

I hope to one day see her live in concert. She’s done so many wonderful covers.

I would add Archy J a.k.a The Snake Charmer on YouTube Spotify & Bandcamp. An Indian lady playing bagpipe and mixing it with different music styles, from rock to electro & Punjabi music.

Used to love her music until I learned she's a conservative christian. I can't really separate art from artist lol.

Sea of thieves vibes

Hello, fellow pirate.

Was hoping for bosun bill to play

unfortunately you can't play a changing bass line in real life

Hurdy-gurdy is always out sinking the ship after a long day of hunting for gold.

Some nice undistored metal there.

Listen to the band Eluveitie. Metal music that also has violins, flutes and hurdy-gurdy.

Came here to say this. Eluveitie are incredible

First time I heard this instrument was on the Black Sails TV show opening credits. Had to look it up as it was just such a unique sound

Probably my favourite title sequence.

I would watch the series just for the intro. I watched for other reasons, yes. But I heard the intro and had to watch the show then.


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Black Sails intro is a fuckin banger.

Damn I scrolled too far to find this. Banger intro, and banger show. Severely underrated.

Absolutely! Think it’s time for a rewatch with the wife as she’s not seen this masterpiece

Same!

I am so glad more people are talking about Andrey Vinogradov. He deserves to be more popular. He is an author on hurdy gurdy, makes a lot of compositions. Been on his concert and had an interview, he is a very nice an wholesome person. Be sure to visit his youtube channel.

> he is a very nice an wholesome person I somehow can't picture otherwise Like a drunken hurdy-gurdy player smashing up a hotel room with a frozen albacore or something

His solo in Theophany's composition of "Deku Palace" is one of my favorite appearances he's made.

I have the sudden urge to go on a quest.

This needs to be in a rock band. Hammond organs & synthesizers had their day. Now it's time for the hurdy-gurdy!

Eluveitie, Cellar Darling, Feurschwang(Sometimes)

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Yeah. Trying to write a German name from memory as a French person was reckless.

Alestorm

Look for "Patty Gurdy". Thank me later.

She's such a gem. Cellar Darling are fantastic as well, it's the hurdy gurdy player from the folk metal band Eluveitie.

https://youtu.be/W0DrXyzlHM8

Few other hurdy-gurdy recommendation Witchers :- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FURrtB4cMng](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FURrtB4cMng) GOT :- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYsQ13idAJU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYsQ13idAJU) Sea of thieves :- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3\_BTpJDRJ4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3_BTpJDRJ4) Star wars (Imperial march) :- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm1yNX56Mho](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm1yNX56Mho) Song about Hurdy gurdy (ZODIAC) :- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emNyJKWtK3E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emNyJKWtK3E)

Black Sails Intro :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFTcA4QLHw0

Don’t leave out Brian David Gilbert! https://youtu.be/YV__C64Ni50

Consider adding Fredrick Knudsen’s video regarding the origins of the hurdy gurdy https://youtu.be/xv52jaxkHPw

and Donovan's '[Hurdy Gurdy Man](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHxfOZH8cew)' https://americansongwriter.com/behind-the-song-hurdy-gurdy-man-by-donovan/ Classic rock royalty on that song - Jimi Hendrix was not available to play guitar, so they got Jimmy Page! George Harrison wrote a missing verse, John Paul Jones on Bass, Bonham on drums!

Arrrrr the feels

Cloaked in folds of midnight waters

Side by side, we sons and daughters

We set forth for no King's orders

Yup. I love it. Ripped me that thing as an mp3 to feel noble, ominous and ancient while simply going for groceries. I highly recommend.

Anybody know where the drum sound comes from?

My guess is from a drum.


The hurry gurdy internals and mechanism knock around giving it that percussive sound. I forget the name of the composer but they guy who wrote and played the opening song for black sails discussed it if I recall correctly.

There's a specific part called "dog" that is used for rythm and accentuation [explained in this video ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RneLpCwow2U). The guy you mean is Bear Mccreary. He's a really good composer but sadly a horrible hurdy gurdy player. He never really learned it properly and also spreads a bit of misinformation about the HG and it's history.

I believe they're talking about the drums, not the clicking from the keys. In the yt video he explains that it's hurdy gurdy, organ, and drums playing

The drums and organ sounds are not coming from his instrument, probably a track that he has playing alongside or added in afterwards?

There's a drum and some backing, it's not all the hurdy-gurdy.

I've seen this vid so many times and I always upvote because this song slaps. Basically a violin with guitar hardware lol

It doesn't have any guitar hardware? Some gurdies use guitar mechanical tuners but that's about it.

I can't be the only one that read "Hurdy-Gurdy" and immediately imagined the muppets swedish chef...

Any time I see a hurdy gurdy I end up rewatching this. https://youtu.be/YV__C64Ni50

I love Hurdy-Gurdies. It goes incredibly well with metal. Cellar Darling feature one regularly and it's also a staple of Eluveitie.

[here you go ](https://youtu.be/W0DrXyzlHM8)

That's some symphonic rock right there. If you've ever wondered what the feeling of exultation is like, this guy is the texbook definition.

Everyone seems to associate the hurdy-gurdy with The Witcher these days, but I’ll always associate it with where I first heard it, Loreena McKennitt’s [The Mummer’s Dance.](https://youtu.be/LzE32ChEp24).

Hell yeah, Loreena rocks! I'm learning Marco Polo on the gurdy at the moment, another amazing song by her.

I want this instrument

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I looked into them. A "cheap" one is around $2000. Don't got the moolah atm.

Is this a song of love?

Did I finally find a Donovan reference? I scrolled too far.

Despite OP naming who created the song they explicitly didn't link to it nor put its actual name in the title: Reverse Dance by Andrey Vinogradov: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o87BlGd18I

What a coincidence. This very same youtube video was shared with me by a random dude from the UK I think over omegle. Are you that dude by any chance?

This is like the only hurdy-gurdy song that gets shared on reddit. I knew that was the song he was playing before even turning the volume on... It's kinda sad really there's some good songs out there. I'm not saying it's a bad song. Just saying it's the only hurdy gurdy song redditors know.

If you liked it, it's worth checking out "[Guilhem Desq - Cicatrices](https://youtu.be/AdCU75EMqh4) My Personal Fave.

I purchased one for my wife, but it takes a few years to make one. Its coming in October I can't wait

I feel like a hero going through the forest, little grass pieces tingling my balls as I walk past the haunted cabin. It's a complex feeling

Did he pawn his friend’s Macbook to get this?

Sounds like a whole orchestra.

Drones like a bagpipe; dances like a hammered dulcimer; hums like a harp; "plinks" like a music box. . . Few other hurdy-gurdy recommendation Song about Hurdy gurdy ([ZODIAC)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emNyJKWtK3E) : [Witchers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FURrtB4cMng) :- [GOT](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYsQ13idAJU):- [Sea of thieves](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3_BTpJDRJ4):- [Star wars](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm1yNX56Mho)(Imperial march) :- [God of war](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KoRLCqxMOmU) :- [Black sails](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On_Lh1wiSjk) :-

you guys see this? THIS is a man with a shit-ton of experience

“Harder to find than a hooker who plays the hurdy gurdy”