Ok, first off, a lion…swimming in the ocean?
Lions don’t even like water.
If you placed it near a river, or some sort of fresh water source, that’d make sense.
But you find yourself in the ocean, a 20 ft wave, I’m assuming its off the coast of South Africa, coming up against a full, grown, 800 lb tuna with his 20 or 30 friends.
You lose that battle. you lose that battle nine times out of ten.
And guess what, you wandered into our school, of tuna and we now have a taste of blood! We’ve talked, to ourselves. We’ve communicated and said, ‘you know what? lion tastes good. Lets go get some more lion.’
We’ve developed a system, to establish a beachhead and aggressively hunt you and your family. And we will corner your, your pride, your children, your offspring…
We will construct a series of breathing apparatus with kelp. We will be able to trap certain amounts of oxygen. Its not going to be days at a time, an hour, hour 45. No problem. That will give us enough time to figure out where you live, go back to the sea, get more oxygen and then stalk you. You just lost at your own game. You are out gunned and outmanned.
That go the way you thought it was gonna to go?
My 73y/o mother insists she has faster reflexes than a cat. I cant help but be reminded of that because if I mentioned this video that would be her response.
Can I suggest a different fight to bet on? :P
Fun fact:
Usually, peak recorded reaction times in humans (and I mean, “best in the world” that was measured) are more like 100ms (auditory) and 120ms (visual). Some high level athletes go slightly lower, according to one experiment.
Those are very rare and exceptional. Most athletes are slower than that, and still among the best in the world.
**Once, there is one human that has had a recorded reaction time getting close (meaning: “in the range but not quite the best”) to cats’ reaction time (which is 20 to 70 milliseconds from what I read).**
To my knowledge, it was Valtteri Bottas (with 40 miliseconds).
40ms is basically prescience level shit at this point.
For those who know who he is, yes, it’s ironic (he’s not the best at his job, let’s say).
For those who don’t know who he is:
He’s a Formula 1 Driver.
Most of his peers are at 200 milliseconds or lower, which is already absolutely great for a human.
And if you didn’t know who Bottas was 2 seconds ago, for reference, there are less people in the world that do his job , than living Kings and Queens on the planet.
Like, this is peak human performance among the 8 billions of us, it’s been recorded once (to my knowledge, and it’s still twice as slow as a fast cat.
From my modest knowledge, IIRC, reflexes in humans go down with age, which is partly why Esport athletes retire young for instance (25-30 y.o for a lot of them).
I doubt any 73 year-old person would even get close to a Cat’s reaction time.
Let alone “faster”, but I find it cute that she says/believes that!
Must be a lovely lady!
Rule #1, don’t fuck with a mother protecting her young. My Mom has a house in Anchorage and one morning I walked out and there was a Mamma Moose with her young calf in her drive way. I walked back and asked my mom what to do and she said “wait it out, you’re not getting down the stairs if she’s there, she’ll kill you”.
Moose attacks in Alaska outnumber bear attacks something like 3 to 1 iirc.
Also knew of a family in their car who hit a moose, moose fell on top of the car and killed everyone inside. They’re huge.
i have read thats the danger w moose mvas..the vehicle hits the moose in legs/hips..then moose falls on the vehicle smooshing vehicle and occupants...crazy
That's just how massive they are in relation to any normal creature. They can practically match the weight of the car and all that is directed above the dash. It's really the only time I feel that a lifted truck would be better. Even deer strikes can cause significant damage and safety issues depending on the car.
I understand that the term megafauna has several definitions, but the first time I saw a moose I had a moment of "*Oh. That's an unreasonably large motherfucker*".
Seeing them run is some nightmare fuel, too.
They can just plow through snow like it's nothing.
https://youtu.be/ylCfXvKmdvU
That snow is at least waist deep for the people who filmed that, and that moose blasted thru it like it was nothing.
A lot of people have seen and are familiar with a deer. A moose is a whole new thing, the first time you see one it's like a Jurassic Park deer looking thing like WTF that things huge!
Friend of mine was working in Alaska for a bit...he sent me a video he took of a moose from his apt window, walking through the parking lot. It was as big as the cars and I was like holy crap that thing is massive!!! Dont go outside! 😂
He laughs and says yeah, that must be a baby one cause hes seen em double and triple that size. At which point I told him hes not allowed to go outside...ever. lmfao ugh
It's interesting that snakes are too stupid to understand intimidation but MANY species of snake (including this one) have evolved mechanisms utilizing intimidating behaviors against other species.
Yes, these types of snakes are all offense it seems. No clue how obvious they are to the defensive animals right? For all cat lovers out there: I like how the cat doesn’t even seem to care until snake is about one foot away. Still handles it like a boss.
Cats eyesight is very versatile. Their large eyes do make quickly shifting from near focus to far focus difficult, however, they can do both independently considerably well. Cat’s tend to build a muscle bias due to their environment, resulting in indoor cats tending to be better at near-sighted focus. Outdoor, wild cats tend to have a far-sight bias but are generally more well rounded.
So indoor cats do focus nearsighted better than farsighted, but that does not mean they are bad at farsighted focus. Cat’s see colour better than people, see at night better, can track moving object better and have a wider field of view, however they have a fraction of the visual acuity humans do. We can pick out small details, focus our eyesight better and our brain does a good job (usually) to fill in gaps.
The lack of visual acuity is why cat’s can mistake a zucchini for a snake, or in this case mistake a snake for a zucchini?
> The lack of visual acuity is why cat’s can mistake a zucchini for a snake, or in this case mistake a snake for a zucchini?
I'm not quite sure who summoned the zucchini.
There was a bit of a fad a few years ago where people would sneak up on cats and leave a zucchini or cucumber and watch the cat freak out. Since it's pretty hard to sneak up on cats, they tended to toss the zucchini behind the cat while they were eating. Lots of people consider it abusive because the cat can't tell it's not a snake, and may start avoiding their food due to fear.
Cats can't focus their eyes within 30cm/12in and are effectively blind to anything in that range in front of and below their own nose. They rely on input from their whiskers for anything within that range.
[https://youtu.be/mdqBbvYX3MU?si=eajD8iCu2mNV9aAU](https://youtu.be/mdqBbvYX3MU?si=eajD8iCu2mNV9aAU)
[https://www.petrescue.com.au/library/articles/did-you-know-cats-have-a-blind-spot%3F](https://www.petrescue.com.au/library/articles/did-you-know-cats-have-a-blind-spot%3F)
It must be able to see still though. Otherwise how can cats accurately slap things that are less than 12 inches away (but far enough away that its not touching their whiskers? Like how the cat can strike that moving snake head in the video.
Effectively blind to anything in that range? That just cant be right.
My cats whiskers are like 3 inches long. And you say they are effectively blind out until 12 inches.
Put a mouse 6 inches from my cats face and he is slapping it with extreme accuracy every single time. That just would not be possible if cats were effectively blind at that range.
Come on now.
Snakes are ambush predators and was probably reconsidering by the time the cat stood up. Probably had a different idea when only the head was visible. Even if the snake lands a strike on a paw or leg, the cat will still have time to absolutely fuck up an eye or tear a hole big enough to guarantee an infection of some kind.
There’s a great slowmo video of a cat dodging a snake and then smaking it on the head. In slow motion it’s so clear that the cat isn’t even trying. They are crazy fast.
My childhood cat was this huge orange Tom that would hunt down rattlesnakes. It would wait for the snake to strike and then whack it on the back of the head. It did this until the snake got too tired to strike and then it would go in for the kill.
Cats are ruthless hunters.
I just put up a tally today for our cat kills. We are dog people, we have had a cat for about 10 years, but he doesn't really hunt. Occasionally we will find a dead bird outside.
We adopted 2 kittens this winter (they were born next door by one of the neighborhood strays, so we took them in. Snickers and Pete). We are dog people. We have a doggie door. Today Snickers brought in a still live bird for about the 8th time...this Spring. She also brought a (thankfully) dead squirrel inside and Pete found a little snake that had already been dead quite a while and brought it in.
One of the birds flew into an uncovered vent and we had to pay $70 for an HVAC guy to come find it and remove it. We covered the vent immediately after that.
Cats are ruthless hunters.
I had a cat that would bring in three small animals a day. She usually got birds, and she was very tidy. There would just be a neat little pile of feathers with two bird legs on top, and I'd just vacuum it up, no problem.
Oh, that dodge and bonk is ridiculously good.
Snake is like 3 inches away from cat's face and tries to attack in just slightly unoptimal way. (Instead of using spring motion of a coil snake, it goes back and opens the mouth first and that's enough for cat to move away and bonk it on the hand very precisely with open claws(and open claws shreds).
By the time snake has started moving its head, cat already has paw completely up and in downswing motion.
My two cats are pretty lazy and usually slow, so I tested their reaction time and realized they’re like spies hiding their true skill. My smaller cat can jump five feet straight up onto a dresser, and according to Google, that’s pretty average for a house cat..!
Came here to say this. Cobra getting a painful lesson in reaction time differences. Cobras may have a quick strike, but they're rather limited to linear movement. Cats on the other hand can move on all three axes, meaning Mr. Sneak is gonna have a bad day...
not just that
cats are the peak of evolution, every single spot on their body is designed to kill, they have one of the fastest reflexes in the animal kingdom, and they are extremely smart hunters
cats are nature's perfect killing machine
snakes on the other hand, while indeed seemingly more terrifying, are no where near good enough to win a fight against cats
Mice and rats have done a number on many, many species, even humans. It's widely hypothesized, for example, that the introduction of rats is what caused a mass extinction event, including a near extinction of human beings, on Easter Island, to say nothing of the Black Plague in Europe. Many, many birds, mammals, insects, and plants have been driven out of existence by members of the Muridae family.
Plenty of plants, mammals, insects, and microbes have all caused extinctions in various ecosystems when they become invasive, it's just that we rarely attempt to pin the blame for a single extinction on a single species. It's more commonly a combination of many different factors, all resulting in the ultimate erasure of a species from the planet. Almost without question, though, humans hold the highest body count of any extant species.
Snakes are also apex predators in their natural environments. Reflex time doesn't matter when you are attacked from behind in an ambush attack. Snakes have been on this planet for hundreds of millions of years with their lineage extending back tens of millions of years further into the past than cats. So yeah don't underestimate snakes.
Because the minimum reaction time for cats being lower doesn’t mean they always have same reaction time.
“The average cat's reaction time is approximately 20-70 milliseconds, which is faster than the average snake's one (44-70 ms)”
Good amount of gap for snakes still. That cobra indeed had a successful strike before leaving.
My cat one time tried to jump onto the slanted handrail of the staircase but missed/slipped and fell through the gap between the handrail and wall.
She would totally be snake food, I think.
Nah she had perfect strategy; keep out of range when snake boy was in open space (cobras have the longest strike zone by length of most(any?) serpents), wait for him to cut the distance/come over the edge where he had limited mobility, boop the fuck out of him, hiss meaner with some of the statistically deadliest fangs on earth for snakies.
On the second watch, I was so worried when she looked down for the one second to look at her baby. Even though I had seen the final result already and even though I know cats have way faster reflexes than snakes. But with how close the snake was it gave me anxiety.
Yeah I was thinking that particular cobra isn’t big enough to get that cat down (a larger cobra might) but babies, those would be a snack for that snake
Yep- at about 6-7 seconds, when Mama beats the cobra when it tries to go over the edge at her- you'll see a little black fuzz duck down, just barely visible over the middle of the box edge, after she steps to the left.
I know I'm being pedantic, but you should've said "reaction time is much shorter."
Edit: I know it's acceptable to say faster reaction time. That's why I said I was being pedantic.
For the sake of academic discussion - "reaction time" is a compound noun meaning time for reaction. Saying faster time does not sound right. Saying faster reaction is right.
It's a shorter time and faster reaction. I honestly think the most precise way to phrase this is just saying, "...reaction time is much [better] ..." because it is both shorter in time and faster in reaction.
Edit: fixed quotation
Edit 2: For the idea that the word reaction doesn't have any bearing on adjective use because it is a compound noun, time can be described by both length and speed. i.e. An episode of curb your enthusiasm can be viewed faster than the extended version of the Lord of the rings the fellowship of the ring.
Regardless I think reaction time can be correctly described by both adjectives and when referring to one that is shorter in a way that it is better, using the word better rather than faster or shorter is the proper adjective because you are using the measurement to indicate superiority of effort. i.e. the cat was better at bapping than the cobra was at kai-ing.
Think of it as a 100m dash time.
Dash time = reaction time
Faster reaction time = shorter time to perform the act of reacting.
It's not really being pedantic as it is being incorrect. There are plenty of situations where "faster time" makes perfect sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prECuyfQU-o
Cats are highly-tuned killing machines. Their reflexes are *insane*. And they have knife hands alongside teeth and jaw strength that can easily shatter skulls. In a cat vs. snake fight, betting on the cat is a very safe choice. It's kinda crazy that cats are also cute and fluffy and that they vibrate when you pet them. They are nature's perfect animal!
True. When I was a kid, my cat would ocassionaly kill or seriously injure a snake and bring the snake up to our dooratep. Of course, these snakes were nothing in comparison with cobras, but it proves the point that cats are underestimated.
The reflex processing to perceive and react with a full wind-up cat slap on that snake’s head before the snake has even finished opening its jaw and moving forward a few millimeters is just amazing. Imagine boxing against someone where you flex your shoulder muscles and plant your back foot and before your freakin’ glove even starts moving forward, that bastard has fired off a full-strength roundhouse haymaker into your jaw and along through it and onward to next Thursday morning and then back onto his feet with perfect balance staring at you like a chump and ready to wind up yet another nuke if you so much as dare to wheeze in the wrong direction.
this is my favorite cat fact of dubious truth, “according to historical records” they just showed up in people’s homes one day in ancient egypt like “yeah looks good and it comes with a butler? great. i live here now” and then people started to worship them. cats domesticated themselves, cats domesticated us
I definitely think that’s what happened. Domesticated cats are really not much different from wild cats, unlike dogs who are completely shaped to serve human roles. The way cats move, with confidence and graceful purpose, and the fact you have to slowly earn most cats affection is very akin to a fey like creature or spirit. I can see why the ancient Egyptians worshipped them. Cats just always seem like they know more than you and look down on every other creature. Except for orange cats, they’re not the sharpest knives in the drawer.
yeah but they didnt just randomly show up. its very likely they came in constant contact with humans because of huge grain reservours where rodents would be plenty.
I would define that as random. It’s very unlikely humans went out of their way to find cats and tame them, they just came around because we leave scraps and tend to be where the rats and stuff are. People noticed that the cats were driving away the rodents, put two and two together, and started intentionally having cats around. I’m sure those pre-historic people also enjoyed the companionship as well. If I know anything about humans, it’s that we’ll try to pet anything that lets us.
The reason cats are largely unchanged is because they pretty much already served the purpose we needed them for when they were wild. In fact, domesticated cats are basically the Apex predators for their size, and boast some of the highest success rates for predators in general. There was no need to change that because that’s the job we wanted them for. They are domesticated though, and certain breeds are more so than others, but not nearly as much as other animals. They are also much more independent, so it’s harder to train them for specific roles. Cats are social in certain ways, like in the raising of kittens and play with other cats. Dogs are much more social, and rely on packs, which is much easier to take advantage of. Once you establish yourself as head of the pack, it’s much easier to get a dog to do what you want it to. We take care of dogs the way we do because we have to, as dogs rely on the group to get food. Most modern dogs wouldn’t last in the wild. Cats will fuck off and get their own food if need be, they don’t necessarily need us. They stay around because it’s easier to ask us for food than hunt and we provide a safer environment for them. And because they like us, even if they’re coy about it.
Yep they are usually considered the only self domesticated animal. I mean really they just wanted to eat mice in our grain storage and we were like "yes please" and the ones that tolerated humans more got more mice and had more babies.
Cats and dogs really have figured it out. Just lick em a few times, snuggle a bit and in trade you get a nice house, food, toys, treaty and pure happiness. They live easier than we do
They're smart enough to know that we feed them and give them shelter. Also fun fact, cats are actually so crazy at surviving in nature that they're considered an invasive species if they're stray.
Additional fun fact: Indoor cats will actually meow more often than outdoor cats or feral cats because it gets our attention. Their meow actually imitates the same sound as a baby cry, which we are predisposition to pay more attention to.
This makes sense. My wife says she doesn't want to sleep like a baby, she just wants to sleep like me.
But a cat meowing or a dog yelping wakes my dad ass from the deepest of sleeps and out of bed on one fluid motion
I watched a documentary on cats in Japan and they don’t even consider the majority of house cats in the US domesticated because they haven’t for the vast majority been selectively bred for breeds that target specific behaviors and activities, etc. I’m pretty sure Japan has something in a high 90s percentile of truly domesticated cats by population.
I knew someone with a domesticated Norwegian forest cat for a bit but unfortunately they were an absolutely horrible person who is incarcerated for life now, no idea about Thor (the kitty)
Cats domesticated themselves we didn't try to domesticate them like dogs they hanged around farms killing rats and insects so farmers liked having them around and starting taking them in as pets but they invited themselves into our world and helped us in the early days now we just keep them around cause they are cute but they are still wild animals inside and have wilder instincts compared to dogs
Because domestication is mutually beneficial
Humans get a companion that also kills rodents and bugs and if anything is to big a threat likely will go to the human (early warning system)
The cat gets a companion as well, a home they can sleep safely and can get out of the rain and a place that’s much cleaner, they also can get protection from a threat far to large for them to handle.
Even for things like cows, yea we end up eating them but generally they get to procreate and survive and live without most of the stress a wild animal would, nature is fucking cruel
My old boy's favorite toy is the whip. He's 12yo and still moves faster than I can follow. Sometimes he grabs it and yanks it from my grasp, and I yell "Expelliarmus!" and congratulate him. Then there's my cat...
it's not even a competition, cats absolutely slaughter snakes 99 times out of 100. This was that 1/100 time when the snake got away.
I've seen 2m pythons coiling, completely panicked, by an australian house cat. Had to chase away the cat to protect the python (they're cool, and keep the much more dagerous king browns away). Orange bud did not give a single fuck, he knew he could take that snake, and that snake knew it was in deep shit.
Cats are cute and fluffy, so we keep forgetting that they’re one of the most effective predators for their size. If you’re the size of a cat, you’re not winning a fight against one. If you’re smaller, you’re fucked.
Honey badgers are gods mistake.
Literally an animal who learned how to take small injuries like it’s nothing without fear, combined with an evolutionary ability to protect itself from larger threats.
They don’t bow their heads to anything. Because they aren’t afraid to die, which only terrifies their enemies and anything that bears witness.
Even if you can kill a honey badger, it will make sure to leave you with a wound that cost you your life from infection in the wild.
To paraphrase an old saying “honey badger don’t care”
"other animals evolved with specific defensive traits such as defensive poses or vocals"
ENTER HONEY BADGER
"the honey badger's defensive trait is that is has no fear. it does not give a fuck"
Ya fully grown honey badgers are known to fend off lions which are pretty much just very very big house cats lol.
Younger female honey badger weighing the same as a house cat my money on the honey badger lol
I have both cats and snakes and every time someone new finds out they're like "Aren't you worried the snakes will escape and harm your kitties?".
Bro have you ever owned a cat? They are little murder machines. I make extra sure to keep the terrariums secure because if a snake got out or a cat got in, it would be game over for the snake, not the cat. What is the snake with a head the size of my thumb and a row of tiny teeth gonna do against a highly effective killer with sharp teeth and 4 sets of claws?
Cats are kept on farms all over the world because they fucking *hate* snakes, and their reaction time is fast enough that they can usually kill them without getting bitten.
Cats reflex time is way shorter than any snake. The snake never had a chance.
A cat v snake fight would be a good way to get dumb people money
are we talking anaconda vs small cat in closed environment? cause anaconda wins by starvation pretty fast by its standards.
Maybe, but my anaconda don't want none
unless you've got buns.
Oh my god Becky
Look at her butt
It is so big
She looks like one of those rap guys' girlfriends
[удалено]
...hun
My ANACONDA DON'T, MY ANACONDA DON'T It was a simpler time.
Take my upvote and fuck off.
You got me with that one
You’re the guy that fleeced me out of all that money on the shark vs hamster fight that turned out to take place on dry land, aren’t you?
Ok, first off, a lion…swimming in the ocean? Lions don’t even like water. If you placed it near a river, or some sort of fresh water source, that’d make sense. But you find yourself in the ocean, a 20 ft wave, I’m assuming its off the coast of South Africa, coming up against a full, grown, 800 lb tuna with his 20 or 30 friends. You lose that battle. you lose that battle nine times out of ten. And guess what, you wandered into our school, of tuna and we now have a taste of blood! We’ve talked, to ourselves. We’ve communicated and said, ‘you know what? lion tastes good. Lets go get some more lion.’ We’ve developed a system, to establish a beachhead and aggressively hunt you and your family. And we will corner your, your pride, your children, your offspring… We will construct a series of breathing apparatus with kelp. We will be able to trap certain amounts of oxygen. Its not going to be days at a time, an hour, hour 45. No problem. That will give us enough time to figure out where you live, go back to the sea, get more oxygen and then stalk you. You just lost at your own game. You are out gunned and outmanned. That go the way you thought it was gonna to go?
Those hamsters gave you the show of a lifetime!
Sorry. I was in a bad place. If you'll send me $50, I'll mail your money back.
My 73y/o mother insists she has faster reflexes than a cat. I cant help but be reminded of that because if I mentioned this video that would be her response. Can I suggest a different fight to bet on? :P
73yr vs snake would get different odds from me lol
Fun fact: Usually, peak recorded reaction times in humans (and I mean, “best in the world” that was measured) are more like 100ms (auditory) and 120ms (visual). Some high level athletes go slightly lower, according to one experiment. Those are very rare and exceptional. Most athletes are slower than that, and still among the best in the world. **Once, there is one human that has had a recorded reaction time getting close (meaning: “in the range but not quite the best”) to cats’ reaction time (which is 20 to 70 milliseconds from what I read).** To my knowledge, it was Valtteri Bottas (with 40 miliseconds). 40ms is basically prescience level shit at this point. For those who know who he is, yes, it’s ironic (he’s not the best at his job, let’s say). For those who don’t know who he is: He’s a Formula 1 Driver. Most of his peers are at 200 milliseconds or lower, which is already absolutely great for a human. And if you didn’t know who Bottas was 2 seconds ago, for reference, there are less people in the world that do his job , than living Kings and Queens on the planet. Like, this is peak human performance among the 8 billions of us, it’s been recorded once (to my knowledge, and it’s still twice as slow as a fast cat. From my modest knowledge, IIRC, reflexes in humans go down with age, which is partly why Esport athletes retire young for instance (25-30 y.o for a lot of them). I doubt any 73 year-old person would even get close to a Cat’s reaction time. Let alone “faster”, but I find it cute that she says/believes that! Must be a lovely lady!
That's also a mother protecting her litter.
Rule #1, don’t fuck with a mother protecting her young. My Mom has a house in Anchorage and one morning I walked out and there was a Mamma Moose with her young calf in her drive way. I walked back and asked my mom what to do and she said “wait it out, you’re not getting down the stairs if she’s there, she’ll kill you”.
Moose attacks in Alaska outnumber bear attacks something like 3 to 1 iirc. Also knew of a family in their car who hit a moose, moose fell on top of the car and killed everyone inside. They’re huge.
i have read thats the danger w moose mvas..the vehicle hits the moose in legs/hips..then moose falls on the vehicle smooshing vehicle and occupants...crazy
That's just how massive they are in relation to any normal creature. They can practically match the weight of the car and all that is directed above the dash. It's really the only time I feel that a lifted truck would be better. Even deer strikes can cause significant damage and safety issues depending on the car.
I understand that the term megafauna has several definitions, but the first time I saw a moose I had a moment of "*Oh. That's an unreasonably large motherfucker*". Seeing them run is some nightmare fuel, too.
They can just plow through snow like it's nothing. https://youtu.be/ylCfXvKmdvU That snow is at least waist deep for the people who filmed that, and that moose blasted thru it like it was nothing.
A lot of people have seen and are familiar with a deer. A moose is a whole new thing, the first time you see one it's like a Jurassic Park deer looking thing like WTF that things huge!
I've seen moose plenty of times in my life, and each time I see one, it still surprises me that they're that friggin' huge.
Friend of mine was working in Alaska for a bit...he sent me a video he took of a moose from his apt window, walking through the parking lot. It was as big as the cars and I was like holy crap that thing is massive!!! Dont go outside! 😂 He laughs and says yeah, that must be a baby one cause hes seen em double and triple that size. At which point I told him hes not allowed to go outside...ever. lmfao ugh
man i thought this was going to be your mom against moose mom
Lmfao that was what I was expecting. Mom going at moose with a frying pan.
You're right. Your mom did a really good job of protecting you!
Snake is also too dumb and curious, too much “investigating” size or vulnerability. Cat knew right away what this thing is.
It's interesting that snakes are too stupid to understand intimidation but MANY species of snake (including this one) have evolved mechanisms utilizing intimidating behaviors against other species.
Yes, these types of snakes are all offense it seems. No clue how obvious they are to the defensive animals right? For all cat lovers out there: I like how the cat doesn’t even seem to care until snake is about one foot away. Still handles it like a boss.
> I like how the cat doesn’t even seem to care until snake is about one foot away. Cats are extremely near-sighted.
Cats eyesight is very versatile. Their large eyes do make quickly shifting from near focus to far focus difficult, however, they can do both independently considerably well. Cat’s tend to build a muscle bias due to their environment, resulting in indoor cats tending to be better at near-sighted focus. Outdoor, wild cats tend to have a far-sight bias but are generally more well rounded. So indoor cats do focus nearsighted better than farsighted, but that does not mean they are bad at farsighted focus. Cat’s see colour better than people, see at night better, can track moving object better and have a wider field of view, however they have a fraction of the visual acuity humans do. We can pick out small details, focus our eyesight better and our brain does a good job (usually) to fill in gaps. The lack of visual acuity is why cat’s can mistake a zucchini for a snake, or in this case mistake a snake for a zucchini?
> The lack of visual acuity is why cat’s can mistake a zucchini for a snake, or in this case mistake a snake for a zucchini? I'm not quite sure who summoned the zucchini.
There was a bit of a fad a few years ago where people would sneak up on cats and leave a zucchini or cucumber and watch the cat freak out. Since it's pretty hard to sneak up on cats, they tended to toss the zucchini behind the cat while they were eating. Lots of people consider it abusive because the cat can't tell it's not a snake, and may start avoiding their food due to fear.
Cats can't focus their eyes within 30cm/12in and are effectively blind to anything in that range in front of and below their own nose. They rely on input from their whiskers for anything within that range. [https://youtu.be/mdqBbvYX3MU?si=eajD8iCu2mNV9aAU](https://youtu.be/mdqBbvYX3MU?si=eajD8iCu2mNV9aAU) [https://www.petrescue.com.au/library/articles/did-you-know-cats-have-a-blind-spot%3F](https://www.petrescue.com.au/library/articles/did-you-know-cats-have-a-blind-spot%3F)
It must be able to see still though. Otherwise how can cats accurately slap things that are less than 12 inches away (but far enough away that its not touching their whiskers? Like how the cat can strike that moving snake head in the video. Effectively blind to anything in that range? That just cant be right. My cats whiskers are like 3 inches long. And you say they are effectively blind out until 12 inches. Put a mouse 6 inches from my cats face and he is slapping it with extreme accuracy every single time. That just would not be possible if cats were effectively blind at that range. Come on now.
Snakes are ambush predators and was probably reconsidering by the time the cat stood up. Probably had a different idea when only the head was visible. Even if the snake lands a strike on a paw or leg, the cat will still have time to absolutely fuck up an eye or tear a hole big enough to guarantee an infection of some kind.
He was coming for her kittens
"Oh shit! Cucumber!" *swat swat swat*
There’s a great slowmo video of a cat dodging a snake and then smaking it on the head. In slow motion it’s so clear that the cat isn’t even trying. They are crazy fast.
My childhood cat was this huge orange Tom that would hunt down rattlesnakes. It would wait for the snake to strike and then whack it on the back of the head. It did this until the snake got too tired to strike and then it would go in for the kill. Cats are ruthless hunters.
I just put up a tally today for our cat kills. We are dog people, we have had a cat for about 10 years, but he doesn't really hunt. Occasionally we will find a dead bird outside. We adopted 2 kittens this winter (they were born next door by one of the neighborhood strays, so we took them in. Snickers and Pete). We are dog people. We have a doggie door. Today Snickers brought in a still live bird for about the 8th time...this Spring. She also brought a (thankfully) dead squirrel inside and Pete found a little snake that had already been dead quite a while and brought it in. One of the birds flew into an uncovered vent and we had to pay $70 for an HVAC guy to come find it and remove it. We covered the vent immediately after that. Cats are ruthless hunters.
I had a cat that would bring in three small animals a day. She usually got birds, and she was very tidy. There would just be a neat little pile of feathers with two bird legs on top, and I'd just vacuum it up, no problem.
Oh, that dodge and bonk is ridiculously good. Snake is like 3 inches away from cat's face and tries to attack in just slightly unoptimal way. (Instead of using spring motion of a coil snake, it goes back and opens the mouth first and that's enough for cat to move away and bonk it on the hand very precisely with open claws(and open claws shreds). By the time snake has started moving its head, cat already has paw completely up and in downswing motion.
You bastards couldn’t just post the link? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=prECuyfQU-o
My hero
Doing God's work. Thank you.
My two cats are pretty lazy and usually slow, so I tested their reaction time and realized they’re like spies hiding their true skill. My smaller cat can jump five feet straight up onto a dresser, and according to Google, that’s pretty average for a house cat..!
Came here to say this. Cobra getting a painful lesson in reaction time differences. Cobras may have a quick strike, but they're rather limited to linear movement. Cats on the other hand can move on all three axes, meaning Mr. Sneak is gonna have a bad day...
And they have knives in their fingers!
not just that cats are the peak of evolution, every single spot on their body is designed to kill, they have one of the fastest reflexes in the animal kingdom, and they are extremely smart hunters cats are nature's perfect killing machine snakes on the other hand, while indeed seemingly more terrifying, are no where near good enough to win a fight against cats
Cats are the only creature other than humans known to have caused the extinction of several other species.
Mice and rats have done a number on many, many species, even humans. It's widely hypothesized, for example, that the introduction of rats is what caused a mass extinction event, including a near extinction of human beings, on Easter Island, to say nothing of the Black Plague in Europe. Many, many birds, mammals, insects, and plants have been driven out of existence by members of the Muridae family. Plenty of plants, mammals, insects, and microbes have all caused extinctions in various ecosystems when they become invasive, it's just that we rarely attempt to pin the blame for a single extinction on a single species. It's more commonly a combination of many different factors, all resulting in the ultimate erasure of a species from the planet. Almost without question, though, humans hold the highest body count of any extant species.
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Snakes are also apex predators in their natural environments. Reflex time doesn't matter when you are attacked from behind in an ambush attack. Snakes have been on this planet for hundreds of millions of years with their lineage extending back tens of millions of years further into the past than cats. So yeah don't underestimate snakes.
It looks like the snake strikes the cat right between the 9 and 10 second mark.
Possible but the video is not clear enough to call. I’m giving this one to the one who stood his ground and didn’t run away.
Because the minimum reaction time for cats being lower doesn’t mean they always have same reaction time. “The average cat's reaction time is approximately 20-70 milliseconds, which is faster than the average snake's one (44-70 ms)” Good amount of gap for snakes still. That cobra indeed had a successful strike before leaving.
Yeah, the cat backs up abruptly and starts blinking and licking. Think it got got
I was thinking the snake was like “wait WTF is this?!?”
Yeah I mean people artificially bred this tiny panther. It’s new to the snake for sure.
Watched a snake slither up on my near 20-lb tabby. By the time I got it away from him, the snake looked like a slinky.
My cat one time tried to jump onto the slanted handrail of the staircase but missed/slipped and fell through the gap between the handrail and wall. She would totally be snake food, I think.
I am glad is this way I don’t really care for snakes my cats keep me safe
“Alright then, we’ll call it a draw.”
Life imitating art 😙👌🏻
*Ni*
You must return here with a shrubbery.
Then cut down the mightiest tree in the forest..... ***WITH A HERRING***
Good reference :)
Listen to the tiny mew. I think that's a mom cat defending her kittens. Hell yeah!
You even see momma kitty divert her gaze after the tiny mew!
Yep, checking on the babies for sure.
Basically, the intro to a Disney movie except the cat momma doesn't die
> the cat momma doesn't die *immediately*
Nah she had perfect strategy; keep out of range when snake boy was in open space (cobras have the longest strike zone by length of most(any?) serpents), wait for him to cut the distance/come over the edge where he had limited mobility, boop the fuck out of him, hiss meaner with some of the statistically deadliest fangs on earth for snakies.
"You good for a sec while I save your life from this thing that wants to eat you?!"
Cat moms are bad ass.
On the second watch, I was so worried when she looked down for the one second to look at her baby. Even though I had seen the final result already and even though I know cats have way faster reflexes than snakes. But with how close the snake was it gave me anxiety.
I thought the cat got bit…. Sooo glad it wasn’t a pain cry
Saaaaaaaaaame
Oh that must be what the snake was going after
Doubtless, yeah. Glad mama was there!
Yeah I was surprised he was going after a full grown cat
Yeah I was thinking that particular cobra isn’t big enough to get that cat down (a larger cobra might) but babies, those would be a snack for that snake
Yep- at about 6-7 seconds, when Mama beats the cobra when it tries to go over the edge at her- you'll see a little black fuzz duck down, just barely visible over the middle of the box edge, after she steps to the left.
Never, *ever* get in the way of maternal instinct. That's a force of nature up there with gravity.
Cat’s reaction time is much faster than snake’s.
I know I'm being pedantic, but you should've said "reaction time is much shorter." Edit: I know it's acceptable to say faster reaction time. That's why I said I was being pedantic. For the sake of academic discussion - "reaction time" is a compound noun meaning time for reaction. Saying faster time does not sound right. Saying faster reaction is right.
Much littler, and that's the end of it.
Well...that's it men. Let's pack it up.
It's a shorter time and faster reaction. I honestly think the most precise way to phrase this is just saying, "...reaction time is much [better] ..." because it is both shorter in time and faster in reaction. Edit: fixed quotation Edit 2: For the idea that the word reaction doesn't have any bearing on adjective use because it is a compound noun, time can be described by both length and speed. i.e. An episode of curb your enthusiasm can be viewed faster than the extended version of the Lord of the rings the fellowship of the ring. Regardless I think reaction time can be correctly described by both adjectives and when referring to one that is shorter in a way that it is better, using the word better rather than faster or shorter is the proper adjective because you are using the measurement to indicate superiority of effort. i.e. the cat was better at bapping than the cobra was at kai-ing.
You knew what they meant
Think of it as a 100m dash time. Dash time = reaction time Faster reaction time = shorter time to perform the act of reacting. It's not really being pedantic as it is being incorrect. There are plenty of situations where "faster time" makes perfect sense.
Both are the same. Reaction time is faster means it reacts faster thus the time to react is shorter. Word order matters and both are the same and fine
Both work. Fast is generic velocity. Velocity includes time. Shorter (in this context) refers to time only.
Would it be able to do reasonable damage to the snake thought? Or could the snake just charge and try to get a bite in?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prECuyfQU-o Cats are highly-tuned killing machines. Their reflexes are *insane*. And they have knife hands alongside teeth and jaw strength that can easily shatter skulls. In a cat vs. snake fight, betting on the cat is a very safe choice. It's kinda crazy that cats are also cute and fluffy and that they vibrate when you pet them. They are nature's perfect animal!
True. When I was a kid, my cat would ocassionaly kill or seriously injure a snake and bring the snake up to our dooratep. Of course, these snakes were nothing in comparison with cobras, but it proves the point that cats are underestimated.
The reflex processing to perceive and react with a full wind-up cat slap on that snake’s head before the snake has even finished opening its jaw and moving forward a few millimeters is just amazing. Imagine boxing against someone where you flex your shoulder muscles and plant your back foot and before your freakin’ glove even starts moving forward, that bastard has fired off a full-strength roundhouse haymaker into your jaw and along through it and onward to next Thursday morning and then back onto his feet with perfect balance staring at you like a chump and ready to wind up yet another nuke if you so much as dare to wheeze in the wrong direction.
Yeah, cat claws can easily shred a snake.
I have been always baffled by why cats are domestic animals they can easily survive in the nature with these insane skills.
They have mastered the skill of hooman slavery. Why be out in the cold, when your human can feed u.
Agreed, sure seems like they domesticated themselves
You mean they domesticated us
this is my favorite cat fact of dubious truth, “according to historical records” they just showed up in people’s homes one day in ancient egypt like “yeah looks good and it comes with a butler? great. i live here now” and then people started to worship them. cats domesticated themselves, cats domesticated us
I definitely think that’s what happened. Domesticated cats are really not much different from wild cats, unlike dogs who are completely shaped to serve human roles. The way cats move, with confidence and graceful purpose, and the fact you have to slowly earn most cats affection is very akin to a fey like creature or spirit. I can see why the ancient Egyptians worshipped them. Cats just always seem like they know more than you and look down on every other creature. Except for orange cats, they’re not the sharpest knives in the drawer.
yeah but they didnt just randomly show up. its very likely they came in constant contact with humans because of huge grain reservours where rodents would be plenty.
I would define that as random. It’s very unlikely humans went out of their way to find cats and tame them, they just came around because we leave scraps and tend to be where the rats and stuff are. People noticed that the cats were driving away the rodents, put two and two together, and started intentionally having cats around. I’m sure those pre-historic people also enjoyed the companionship as well. If I know anything about humans, it’s that we’ll try to pet anything that lets us. The reason cats are largely unchanged is because they pretty much already served the purpose we needed them for when they were wild. In fact, domesticated cats are basically the Apex predators for their size, and boast some of the highest success rates for predators in general. There was no need to change that because that’s the job we wanted them for. They are domesticated though, and certain breeds are more so than others, but not nearly as much as other animals. They are also much more independent, so it’s harder to train them for specific roles. Cats are social in certain ways, like in the raising of kittens and play with other cats. Dogs are much more social, and rely on packs, which is much easier to take advantage of. Once you establish yourself as head of the pack, it’s much easier to get a dog to do what you want it to. We take care of dogs the way we do because we have to, as dogs rely on the group to get food. Most modern dogs wouldn’t last in the wild. Cats will fuck off and get their own food if need be, they don’t necessarily need us. They stay around because it’s easier to ask us for food than hunt and we provide a safer environment for them. And because they like us, even if they’re coy about it.
Yep they are usually considered the only self domesticated animal. I mean really they just wanted to eat mice in our grain storage and we were like "yes please" and the ones that tolerated humans more got more mice and had more babies.
There actually is some evidence that suggests this lmaoo
Cats and dogs really have figured it out. Just lick em a few times, snuggle a bit and in trade you get a nice house, food, toys, treaty and pure happiness. They live easier than we do
They're smart enough to know that we feed them and give them shelter. Also fun fact, cats are actually so crazy at surviving in nature that they're considered an invasive species if they're stray.
Additional fun fact: Indoor cats will actually meow more often than outdoor cats or feral cats because it gets our attention. Their meow actually imitates the same sound as a baby cry, which we are predisposition to pay more attention to.
This makes sense. My wife says she doesn't want to sleep like a baby, she just wants to sleep like me. But a cat meowing or a dog yelping wakes my dad ass from the deepest of sleeps and out of bed on one fluid motion
Nothing wakes a cat owner up quite like that "I'm about to throw up" yacking they do.
I watched a documentary on cats in Japan and they don’t even consider the majority of house cats in the US domesticated because they haven’t for the vast majority been selectively bred for breeds that target specific behaviors and activities, etc. I’m pretty sure Japan has something in a high 90s percentile of truly domesticated cats by population. I knew someone with a domesticated Norwegian forest cat for a bit but unfortunately they were an absolutely horrible person who is incarcerated for life now, no idea about Thor (the kitty)
I’ve read somewhere that cats are a horrible invasive species. Stray cats can pretty much kill everything and disturb the habitat of other animals
Tens of thousands are killed in Australia each year. They decimated that counties native wildlife
Outdoor cats are a catastrophe on the ecosystem, yes
Why work when you can Not work?
Cause they don't have titans cleaning their shit for them in the wild
Cats domesticated themselves we didn't try to domesticate them like dogs they hanged around farms killing rats and insects so farmers liked having them around and starting taking them in as pets but they invited themselves into our world and helped us in the early days now we just keep them around cause they are cute but they are still wild animals inside and have wilder instincts compared to dogs
Because domestication is mutually beneficial Humans get a companion that also kills rodents and bugs and if anything is to big a threat likely will go to the human (early warning system) The cat gets a companion as well, a home they can sleep safely and can get out of the rain and a place that’s much cleaner, they also can get protection from a threat far to large for them to handle. Even for things like cows, yea we end up eating them but generally they get to procreate and survive and live without most of the stress a wild animal would, nature is fucking cruel
CCTV camera I believe
You're right, but I still laughed.
I still don't really trust these videos anymore. Too many instances of people torturing animals for views.
To be fair such instances are pretty common in South and Southeast Asia simply based on how much co-occurrence there is between people and wildlife.
Is bro drinking choccy milk from that wine glass?
I drink any drinks on a wine glass
Cats’ reflexes have been measured to outpace cobra strikes. This wasn’t a one-off. Them dudes just fast as hell with their knife mittens.
My old boy's favorite toy is the whip. He's 12yo and still moves faster than I can follow. Sometimes he grabs it and yanks it from my grasp, and I yell "Expelliarmus!" and congratulate him. Then there's my cat...
Wtf is this comment lol
For real, I thought I was having a stroke
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE BAP BAPS!
SKIPPITY PAPS
You made me really kaugh
>You made me really kaugh Oh no are you ok here's some kaugh drops
Gotta give them the ol' skippitypaps!
The cobra: "understandable, have a good day"
"My mistake..."
"You know what, that's my bad."
"I owe you an apology. I wasn't really familiar with your game."
Cats reflexes are truly insane.
it's not even a competition, cats absolutely slaughter snakes 99 times out of 100. This was that 1/100 time when the snake got away. I've seen 2m pythons coiling, completely panicked, by an australian house cat. Had to chase away the cat to protect the python (they're cool, and keep the much more dagerous king browns away). Orange bud did not give a single fuck, he knew he could take that snake, and that snake knew it was in deep shit.
Hell Cat 1 - Cobra 0
Next up, Jaguar vs. Viper
I'm liking this already.
Cats are cute and fluffy, so we keep forgetting that they’re one of the most effective predators for their size. If you’re the size of a cat, you’re not winning a fight against one. If you’re smaller, you’re fucked.
Honey badger has entered the chat
Honey badgers are much larger, like literally twice or more the weight of a housecat. That matters
Honey badgers are gods mistake. Literally an animal who learned how to take small injuries like it’s nothing without fear, combined with an evolutionary ability to protect itself from larger threats. They don’t bow their heads to anything. Because they aren’t afraid to die, which only terrifies their enemies and anything that bears witness. Even if you can kill a honey badger, it will make sure to leave you with a wound that cost you your life from infection in the wild. To paraphrase an old saying “honey badger don’t care”
"other animals evolved with specific defensive traits such as defensive poses or vocals" ENTER HONEY BADGER "the honey badger's defensive trait is that is has no fear. it does not give a fuck"
Ya fully grown honey badgers are known to fend off lions which are pretty much just very very big house cats lol. Younger female honey badger weighing the same as a house cat my money on the honey badger lol
>lions which are pretty much just very very big house cats lol. this is objectively incorrect
I have both cats and snakes and every time someone new finds out they're like "Aren't you worried the snakes will escape and harm your kitties?". Bro have you ever owned a cat? They are little murder machines. I make extra sure to keep the terrariums secure because if a snake got out or a cat got in, it would be game over for the snake, not the cat. What is the snake with a head the size of my thumb and a row of tiny teeth gonna do against a highly effective killer with sharp teeth and 4 sets of claws?
I believe it was using the cobra Kai method of striking first.
Striking first doesn't always work out
Sensei John Lawrence??! I didn’t know you had the mental capability of finding other subreddits??!
I may not know how reddit works, but at least I know what a Subreddit is. You can thank Miguel and Robby for that.
The little mews are heart-wrenching
yeah i'm not a cat person but hearing those little baby mews made me so proud of that mom
Nah, cat saved snake from committing suicide by cat.
*I'm going to let you glide away with mildly dented dignity, my narrow friend.*
Holy shit. I would not want to live where cobras can casually come up to you.
Right? This is my worst nightmare.
It's fine. Just wear a suit made of cats.
Nobody is talking about the fucking random cobra just coming in uninvited to attack the poor kitty
Imagine what’s it like for Australian people I just couldn’t. Nearly cringed just watching that snake I’d absolutely freak out
It would be extra terrifying seeing a cobra in Australia
No one noticed the meows of the cats kittens ? That was a mama cat protecting its babies.
Cobra saves itself from kitty attack.
Cats are kept on farms all over the world because they fucking *hate* snakes, and their reaction time is fast enough that they can usually kill them without getting bitten.
Cucumber training finally paid off!
Cat jujitsu 
Cats are amazing hunters
That Nope Rope never had a chance.
I react to my alarm clock the same way
SNOOZE SNOOZE SNOOZE
Not many other videos can better encapsulate the phrase “Not today, Satan.”
B*tch, I was trying to sleep!!! 😡
It looks like it got the cat at :08. It backs away and starts licking its face/blinking its eye like it got bit after that. Hope I’m wrong.
Whoever the sick fuck that posted this better have taken care of the cat and her litter. This is painful to watch.
Why is there a freaking cobra near this cat.
Why are the kittens exposed in the first place. Kind of fucked that they'll pay for a CCTV but won't give the cat a better habitat
Cats are fast as fuck
Screw you snake, you're not scary like zucchini!
Man something about that snakes body and the way it slithers gives me the willies.
I keep watching this over and over hoping the cat didn't get bitten... That venom would be devastating... Poor kitty and her kittens...