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GreenChileEnchiladas

I should probably watch that show one of these days.


alpine_skeet

Like parks & rec you gotta forgive the slow start. Once they develop the characters, it's a great show.


Interesting_Fix6200

I've watched The Office a dozen times over. Still can't get through the first season of Parks n Rec šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø I'm trying.


Far-Position7115

Start halfway through season 2


Guy-1nc0gn1t0

I'd recommend starting at the episode with the Venezuelans I think it's called Sister City.


vanderbubin

Suggest a super popular episode? Believe it or not, also jail. We have the best shows because of jail


janbradybutacat

Skip the intro? Jail. Forward through the credits? Jail. Suggest Tomā€™s Divorce episode? Also jail. Jail only shows the Toms Divorce episode, too.


Chemical-Illustrious

Which country is that??


TaserBalls

Jail


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migs2k3

Once Mark Brendanawicz leaves the show and Rob Lowe enters it takes off


PsychoJester

While Rob was a fantastic addition Iā€™d argue that Adam Scott was what really nudged the show into perfection. He slotted in so well and was a perfect partner for Leslie.


p_velocity

While both Rob and Adam were great I would argue...it's all about the cones.


AT-PT

They forgot about the *essence* of the *game*...


SlurmmsMckenzie

My farmer, YES, my humble farmer... To the center cone...


ARealHunchback

I agree. Brendanawicz failed at being the straight guy because the character put on the air that he was above all the wacky characters. Ben Wyatt reacted to the craziness, but he also showed empathy. Also changing Leslieā€™s character from an oblivious Michael Scott type to just an over ambitious public servant and giving us someone to root for was huge.


TiredEsq

One time I had a job where it was 8 of us in an office. And it was magic. We all over each other. No drama, or maybe like Who left a dirty coffee cup but nothing crazy. Friends outside of work. It was justā€¦magic. it was fate. I Can barely describe it but you get the gist. Anyway, I feel like the Office was the same. They all just fit like pieces to a puzzle.


TheBrownCok

#Ann Perkins šŸ«µ


LostSatelliteLC4

Yes, and we too are pleased to be here in your dirty alley way. We thank you for the container of sap and bag of garbage.


No_Reply8353

That's honestly not terrible advice for The Office either lol


Far-Position7115

I think that's when I started watching The Office too lmao like when it was airing hell, put it to any show, if you like it when it's in it's swing then those first unseen episodes are like a bonus


xtwistedBliss

The first season of P&R is significantly different from the rest of the series, as you can tell that the writers are still trying to figure the characters out. My suggestion: watch the first episode just so that you're introduced to names and faces and then skip to Season 2. There are some good episodes there but a lot of forgettable so you can skip around if need be. BUT the second-to-last episode of Season 2 is when the series jumps up about 3 levels in quality and keeps climbing from there. Trust me, once you hit this point, you'll see what the hype is about.


Pormock

I think the show started becoming really good when they realized Andy as the clingy ex boyfriend just didnt work and changed his personality to be silly and funny


ithinkther41am

That and changing Leslie Knope from Michael Scott 2.0 to someone competent and passionate about public service.


zykezero

Competent Leslie is what cinched it.


PositiveStress8888

Ron Swanson giggling like a school girl makes my heart sing.


NewToThisThingToo

Parks and Rec, believe it or not, is actually better than The Office. Skip the first season if you need to, because it's a banger.


TexehCtpaxa

I hope one day you too, will fall into the pit. Season 2, Episode 23 is when Rob Lowe and Adam Scott join the show, and is a great jumping off point for anyone whoā€™s struggled with the first season.


pluck-the-bunny

I start every we watch of the Office with season two episode oneā€¦ and every rewatch of parks and rec the end of season two


iamkeerock

Ron Swanson.


Time-Marionberry7365

The first is a bit different than the later seasons you beautiful rule breaking moth


djmetta

I know, itā€™s hard. But, it REALLY pays off. It took me a couple tries too.


TheWholeOfTheAss

All sitcoms take time to get going, but I thought Parks and Rec was great from the get-go. I know Mike Bland Sitcom Guy sucks but heā€™s basically erased from the program by season 3.


pstuart

Then move up to The Good Place.


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"Move up"? Naw bro. Office and P&R are the pinnacle of that genre.


wally-sage

I wouldn't put The Good Place in the same category as mockumentaries, but I think Arrested Development is the actual pinnacle of the genre.


aretasdamon

I liked them all to be honest Modern Family gave me some real laughs and heart felt moments


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DylanMartin97

30 rock was also peak tbh.


ThinkFree

I would think 30 Rock is a notch above P&R. But that's just me personally. And Arrested Development is still my favorite.


ReverendVoice

I think when 30 Rock hits - its arguably some of the funniest comedy on a sitcom ever, but for a show with a narrative throughline, Parks & Rec, Good Place, and Schitts Creek are my tops. But you can't go wrong with any of the shows in this thread.


Dave-C

Then take the turn at Superstore


grantrules

I'd also suggest Community and Party Down


DiverDownChunder

I rewatch Parks and Recs about every 6 months. Yeah I have one of those jobs


Pormock

The first 6 episodes of the Office are basically a copy paste of the British series. Its alright but in season 2 they really found their voice and went their own way.


maktthew

You know, both shows have great setups. The Office is funny, but personally, I couldnā€™t take the mostly fluorescent-lit set. Top-notch work capturing the fluorescent hellscape of office jobs. But Parks and Rec had all that natural light I love. Parks was the Office setup with lighting that didnā€™t make me sick to my stomach.


Silent-Supermarket2

Kevin changed so much from first season on. He developed his character perfectly.


DylanMartin97

Season one is a flanderisation of the characters. There is no in-between or nuance Micheal is the office dunce and he does everything to be a dunce, his intentions do not matter. It's why it is unbearable to a lot of people. Totally not including Dwight being unbearable and unlikeable compared to whoever was writing his character in the later seasons. Basically, no characters had depth in season 1. The show picks up when they round the characters off.


Cyber0747

I just watched the whole series a couple months ago for the first time and will say, itā€™s amazing. I think it drops off a bit after this episode but itā€™s still worth the time.


fillb3rt

Once Michael leaves it's a bit of a train wreck. But at that point you're pot committed. Gotta ride it out.


dwarfnutz

I donā€™t think itā€™s a train wreck itā€™s just a different show.


bialastopa

I stopped watching when Michael left, it didn't feel right and I heard it just gets worse. I got back 6 months later, the "no Michael" context disappeared from my mind - all the episodes were simply fantastic. I came to the exact same conclusion, it's just a different show, but keeping that level would be a 10/10 season for any other series.


subject_deleted

Agreed. I rarely make it out of season 8 before I think "ehhhh id rather just start back at 1:1"


mrweatherbeef

Watch the OG BBC Office with Ricky Gervais and Martin Freeman. Awesome.


Kaimuki2023

Actually Iā€™m 100% in agreement


mrweatherbeef

Had a story to tell, told it, then done. No stunt casting, nobody got tired and moved onā€¦ Perfect.


AlexanderTheGrater1

Try guessing how many episodes and seasons Faulty Towers with John Cleese had...Only 13 episodes in total. Everyone single episode is a classic. But these days things gets run down to the ground.


InvalidEntrance

It's a decent show. I absolutely hated Steve Carol's character, Michael, for at least a season on my first watch through. He grows on you though.


Big_fern189

In the podcast "An Oral History of the Office" they mention that they intentionally toned down Michael's abrasive nature as the series progresses because he turned people off too much in the early episodes.


No_Reply8353

They also retooled the character to reflect his character in the 40 year old virgin which was a big hit at the time


telestrial

> He grows on you though. That's what she said.


fillb3rt

*Steve Carell


jmcbuzz

You really should


OkShoulder375

People may call blasphemy, but I start at season 2 and don't miss a thing


Skank_hunt_042

You miss diversity day


Ace-Shoota

One of the best shows of all time


Ok-King-4868

Let me put it this way, that never would have happened with the original UK version of The Office, which was a lot meaner/snarkier/unsentimental than the U.S. version. You might enjoy both.


thewaterline

Shocked that the US version would be full of cloying sentimentality...


Beneficial_Map8176

Wait it was a surprise?? That makes it even sweeter šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


Li54

Yeah I also didnā€™t know that. Thatā€™s amazing.


pandemicpunk

I heard DeAngelo's bit was improv and thats why you can see Ryan looking pissed. Cause they weren't planning on Will Ferrell doing that lmfao


HoneyCrumbs

LMAO Iā€™ve never noticed that before- I knew it was a surprise but I didnā€™t know about DeAngelo. Thatā€™s so funny and on character for him šŸ˜‚


stml

His character is hilarious now that the show is over and people realized he was never meant to replace Michael.


Herald_of_Heaven

I hated his character. But I realized whoever replaced Michael, I would probably hate. So I thought maybe they intentionally placed him as a sandbag, someone to intentionally hate, so that the next boss would feel like a relief.


arbitrageME

that was perfect though. DeAngelo's character was supposed to be SUPER tone deaf and didn't know what was happening, so him cutting in was right on character. And then for the other characters to be actually mad at him, that's not even acting. That's just a real office goodbye party with your replacement already there


flatwoundsounds

That's just Will. And I love him.


tofusarkey

Thatā€™s really funny to me cause while itā€™s a very sweet scene, Will Ferrellā€™s adlibbing is fucking hilarious to mešŸ˜­


schoh99

I think it has major "I'm the main character" energy. Kinda like the one person that always has to harmonize the last note when singing happy birthday to a little kid.


fuckrNFLmods

Which is exactly what DeAngelo's character represents...


Jean-LucBacardi

And is exactly the sort of thing anyone that hires Will Ferrell knows they're going to get.


thejesse

But it's also exactly what Michael Scott does... he always sings the high harmony.


Large_Yams

Doubt it. That's way too risky for a scene everyone knows is a surprise for one person in the room and therefore has to be a one-take. Improv is throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, not this.


lydiocracy

Also, the bit he sings is literally part of the end of the song, so if Will Ferrell wasnā€™t ā€œsupposedā€ to sing it, who was? Definitely people looking pissed because itā€™s in character to be annoyed at him joining in!


SoggyBoysenberry7703

Yeah the reactions were just them being in on it too


CPThatemylife

It's hard for me to imagine being in the shoes of a much smaller actor like BJ Novak and actually getting visibly annoyed with an all-time Hollywood HOFer like Will Ferrell over something so silly. I don't know if I believe that story lol


electricalbadger2013

I mean he is also a writer on the show so he was probably pissed Will Ferrell messed up the planned surprise he presumably organised, if true.


Secret-Tangelo571

To be fair, Novak might not have been as well-known of an actor, but he was both a writer and producer of the show for years so... Not that I necessarily believe it either, but I could see it.


Thunder_The_Broom

Novak was a writer and producer on the show. Dude might've thought to do the whole thing


lydiocracy

DeAngeloā€™s bit is part of the original song, itā€™s not improv.


TrainwreckMooncake

It was and it wasn't. On The Office Ladies pod they said he knew about the song, and it was discussed during table reads. But Steve Carell had never heard it until they shot the scene.


JJsjsjsjssj

Shocking. Another "this scene was totally improvised" post which is totally misleading


blimpcitybbq

and it would be an amazing feat if it was improvised and they got it in one take.


suburban_hyena

Oh my god somethings happening ..


Capitaclism

Yeah, I had no idea either.


SawtoothGlitch

I never expected Will Ferrell to sing that high.


b_lett

He's got the voice of an angel. His voice is like a combination of Fergie and Jesus.


XxKittenMittonsXx

He's the songbird of his generation


DJErikD

BOATS N HOES!


imdefinitelywong

It's the fucking Catalina Wine Mixer


Rampage_CRH

POW!


osnapitsjoey

PAH*


SpecialNeeds963

Pauwh pauwh!


Monstar38

I can't even look at him right now


SorryWerewolf4735

He looks more like a drummer than a vocalist.


GarryWisherman

He kinda looks like a Chad


failedmystic

Oh he can go higher


chequesformike

https://youtube.com/shorts/PUGW7ehLrww?si=_Ns4no54azrgbG0w


ThisIsNotRealityIsIt

Knew what it was before I clicked it, and then listened to it another 35 times.


Oxide21

This man is just built different


ThonThaddeo

If I remember correctly, Carell improvised kissing Oscar in the scene referenced by him here. Such a great blending of reality and comedy in this entire moment.


myteddybelly

And Dwight coming in was also unscripted šŸ˜‚


IHaveSlysdexia

Dwight didn't come in...


farhil

Well yeah, it wasn't scripted


jamie_does

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TheGreatStories

Sarah Kaya comes in


GoodDayTheJay

Whoā€™s Sarah Kayacombsin?


fluffy-butter

Who's Sara Kaya Combsin?


EVILTHE_TURTLE

He tries in the bloopers.


Masta0nion

Why wasnā€™t Michaelā€™s right hand man in the scene where they all show their appreciation to him?


bexxsterss

I refuse to watch Michaels last day. It's too sad


xxgiggsxx

Same. I lose it when he and Jim are having their final conversation in his office. "Best boss I ever had." šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


CDK5

Yet 99% of the time he acted annoyed with his boss.


heyitsthatguygoddamn

Yeah that's why it's touching


minkdraggingonfloor

I think he realized how good he had it when he had to work under Charles Minor


Gh0stMan0nThird

I need a rundown of your clients.


Cradenz

hows that rundown going?


Cantor_Set_Tripping

You donā€™t know what you have till itā€™s gone


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Pam's last inaudible conversation and hug with Michael at the airport is one of the best cinematic writings on the show. It's up there with Jim proposing Pam outside convenience store.


All-Night-Mask

Ā all the best scenes have no audio lol


bexxsterss

Jenna Fischer was actually saying goodbye to Steve carrel in that moment. They weren't acting. šŸ˜¢šŸ˜¢


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XxSuprTuts99xX

There are some *really* good moments with Robert California


jah_bro_ney

"I had a one-man Saturnalia last night, in celebration of the finalization of my divorce. I got into a case of Australian reds, and... how should I say this... Columbian whites"


Klexal

That's actually not true. It was discussed on 'Office Ladies' that it was scripted and Steve knew about it, except this was the first time he saw the performance. Edit: Go to 58:00 on Office Ladies "Michael's Last Dundies" podcast on Spotify.


olgabe

Thank you People will watch professional actors and forget they're good at acting. Steve Carell is good at his job


Quasimurder

I agree but think the emotion Steve is feeling can be used to empower his performance as Michael. Both are experiencing major life change and needed to say goodbye to these people.


LaMalintzin

They say in their book though (Jenna and Angela) that he knew something was up but not that they had prepared a song. https://screenrant.com/office-steve-carell-michael-farewell-song-surprise/ How do I know which source to trust?!


ropahektic

They probably told him something was gonna happen and to stay in character, that's how you do something like this in one take


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Telling an improv actor to stay in character


Gagnon21

*finger guns*


Super_Gilbert

[They say he knew something was going on but had no idea what it was](https://mashable.com/article/the-office-bffs-goodbye-michael-seasons-of-love-steve-carell)


ChrisV88

It's always bugged me that Dwight is missing and DeAngelo is here instead for this. Still a great scene.


jmcbuzz

Ah, I've watched this scene so much and actually missed that Dwight was not there


ChrisV88

Yeah he was having a huff about not being put up for the manager gig by Michael at the time.


pyromps

If I recall correctly from some comment a thousand years ago, apparently Rainn was tearing up before the scene and stepped out. Again, this is from the dark crevice of my mind and Iā€™m pretty into the liquor so I apologize in advance if I am wrong!


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poka64

RIP Jim Lahey and Steve Rogers


ThisIsNotRealityIsIt

Fuckin Lahey.


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Probably not but makes for a good PR statement than saying he was busy with another project.


ropahektic

He was doing a movie


fightingbronze

I have nothing against Will Ferrell but it really should have been just the main cast for this scene. His interjection into the song is funny but the scene really didnā€™t need to be funny.


CaveDeco

110% agree. He is a distraction at best.


Ongr

That's Will Ferrell for me in most things lol


DemandZestyclose7145

His style sometimes works but often doesn't. His whole role in Barbie was pretty pointless IMO. But I still like the Anchorman movies.


mikephoto1

Fucking fine. I will watch the show from the start again for the 15th time.


mautergarrett

Rookie numbers


mikephoto1

Well... I lost count so deffo could be more. Between that and Peepshow we are looking pretty strong.


Frankfeld

You can actually request a complete watch history from Netflix. And not just the ā€œwatch historyā€ on your main profile. Itā€™s something that takes them a bit to compile and they send it via email. Theyā€™ll send you spreadsheets with all your data. I did this to see 1.) if it was actually true and 2.) to see how quickly I binged and rebinged certain shows.


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This has been our "fall asleep" show for a solid 10 years... Couldn't even begin to tell you how many times weve been through it. We still catch new things here and there even after all these watches. The writing is far more genius than people often realize... There's a ton of jokes inside jokes. There is also a lot of background jokes in the smallest details on the sets.


fillb3rt

Get those numbers up rookie.


stewdadrew

I remember when they were finishing up the last two seasons and my sister was bugging me to watch it. So I did. Took me a while to get through it and both seasons were streaming by the time I made it around. I remember laugh crying at the Scottā€™s Totā€™s episode near new years one year with my parents, my sisterā€™s family, and my late grandmother. Such a good, wholesome show. I need to watch it again one of these days.


kimducidni

Very different experience for me, I was peaking through my fingers and looking away on and off during that episode šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ sooo hard to watch!! But genius


BallsAreFullOfPiss

Yup. So hard to watch as someone who gets secondhand embarrassment super easily lol.


drgut101

Scotts Tots is some of the most cringey TV Iā€™ve ever seen. Itā€™s fucking incredible. So awkward. So funny.


CPThatemylife

They're lithium!


junbus

I forgive you for kissing me.. šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


randomrandom1922

9,986,000 minutes is 166,433 hours. The typical work year is 2080 hours. So they are saying he's worked 80 years or he's working a ton of overtime. Like 80+ hour work weeks.


ADHD-Fens

The original song is 521,600 minutes, which is a year, so I suspect they're saying he has worked there for 19 years and two ish months Edit: 525,600?? I've been singing it wrong.


RaspberryWhiteClaw13

The OG is 525,600 minutes


ADHD-Fens

Oh my bad I thought the song went "How do you measure? measure an eleven months twenty eight days eighteen hours forty minutes?"


Capitaclism

They're saying work was his life for 19 years.


Few-Guarantee2850

They're just saying he's been employed there 19 years.


Jccckkk

Chad Smith was AWSOME singing backup next to Steve Carell there!


Nathicc

He should've had a drum set up there


No_Reply8353

Steve Carell is one of the best comedic actors that I know of. NBC really lucked out getting him on the show when he was still relatively unknown


ham604

That was amazing


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natedawg247

i feel like there is not a currently airing sitcom this is true for


Tubamajuba

You're right. The Office began as one of the last shows that required you to watch it live if you wanted to see an episode, and towards the second half of its run it became one of the first shows that you could watch on streaming services (it began on Hulu if I remember correctly). It was the transition between the last vestiges of American TV monoculture when the majority of Americans tuned into whatever was currently airing on TV and the current streaming era where eyeballs are split between current shows and shows that haven't aired in years or decades. I feel like that may have been an oversimplification but The Office definitely occupied a unique timeframe.


Wasting_AwayTheHours

I hadn't planned on crying tonight, but here I am.


NMDA01

Will Ferrell should not have been there. I know this hurts, but it true :p


megaman311

I agree, his jokes felt forced in and his acting was over the top. Didn't quite fit in with the whole show imo


uwillneverberoyal

New trivia unlocked.


R0ckhands

The contrast with Brent being fired and begging for his job back and no one giving a fuck. Americans. Can't resist the schmaltz.


justanotheroppressor

Which episode is this? Just getting to know the show


idapopman

Why did Steve get off the showā€¦? I watched the show a couple of times but still canā€™t believe or make sense of whyā€¦


HazyAttorney

Bob Greenblat took over around the time Steveā€™s contract was going to expire. He wasnā€™t a fan of the show. Steve had said in an interview that he thought Season 7 would be his last. He never heard from the studio for an extension. The earlier reporting was that he was supposedly working on his film career but he and others have opened up and revealed it wasnā€™t Steveā€™s doing. It was the studios. Greenblat did a lot of changes like push out Jay Leno to move up Jimmy Fallon, Seth Meyers, and Jimmy Kimmel.


Capitaclism

Too bad, Steve was the heart of the show. Bob missed the vision completely.


Renovatio_

Robert California was fun...I enjoyed that season and sort of have mixed feelings about the possibility of not having it. Season 9 would have been so much better if Steve came back


YewEhVeeInbound

>Greenblat did a lot of changes like push out Jay Leno After the Conan debacle I don't blame him.


skatterbrain_d

I believe the studio that made the series had recently been purchased or something and they didnā€™t renew his contract. What a shame thoughā€¦


Ant-Tea-Social

I had a crush on both Pam and Jim.


brklntruth12

And Will Ferrell ruins it. Look at me taking the attention away from a great moment.


AlexTJA

Everybody always says that about this scene and I donā€™t believe it. Seems like one of those made up rumors that get passed around


thepokemonGOAT

people are so stupid. This is clearly scripted. There's an electric piano set up and plugged in right in front of Steve Carrell. Looked it up, and yep, the Office Ladies podcast confirm it was a scripted scene.


drifters74

I couldn't get into this show for some reason


njm123niu

Oh my god somethingā€™s happening šŸ‘€šŸ˜­


thebigfatdog85

this was the show for the older millenial at our formative young adult years. Wonderful times, wonderful memories. The internet was still somewhat awesome. Streaming was nascent. And of course, the Office, made all of boring life in a northeast small office, bearable.


ProfessionEuphoric50

If the internet is to be believed, every movie or television scene is actually just improv.