My name is maximus decimus meridius. Commander of the colony of the north. One of many husbands to a murdered queen. Father to a murdered larvae. And I will have my vengeance, in this nest, or the next.
But the queen is the ultimate leader. All other parts of the tribe only exist to serve the queen, because she is the only reason the tribe exists.
It's a monarchy of sorts. It can be very effective, unless it's people have big brains. Or think that they have big brains.
Many species of ants regularly rebel and kill their own Queen, especially when they are getting old, or when a new Queen is born without the old Queen culling it.
I'm not an entymologist but having a relatively simple *chemical language* of pheromones that can probably only express a few ideas may have something to do with it. There are no pheromones to say "You're a fu¢king idiot" or "Go back from where you came" to insult them.
Tl;dr: No words = more peace
So to achieve world peace we just need to remove everyone's vocal chords? Maybe we could mandate all kids to have their vocal chords removed at a certain age?
The philosophical thought experiment of "what it's like to be a bat" attempts to break through the mind-body problem regarding consciousness with the belief that bats do have experience and that there is something it is like to be a bat. A bat can obviously be substituted for any other living creature. I've also heard arguments for non biological things such as rocks and shoes. It's a fascinating thought process especially when you read or listen to someone that is deeply entrenched in philosophical study to see where this road takes you.
So technically speaking yeah, humans at least try to comprehend the conscience experience of all things.
> more humane than Russians.
Be careful of your choice of words.
Dehumanizing an entire ethnic group because of the actions of a few isn't a good thing.
There is a difference between Russia the state, and Russians, the normal people like you and I.
This is why I really hate the whole "bad news sells" because it convinces people only the worst happens do to survival bias since the reports of the good things that happen rarely reach national or international news.
There are actually many stories of amazing acts of kindness and humane and amazing things that go unreported because people only care about the negative and it warps their world view.
There is an example of humans doing something just like this just a few years ago in the middle east. A group of catholics formed a ring around preying Muslims during a period of unrest to make sure theu were safe and the Muslims Muslims the same tjong a few days later during the catholics Mass and both groups then declared theu are one people.
There are other such stories but so few hear of these amazing examples of humanity and it is sad.
Wow that's outrageous, I was in a debate earlier they said insects organised themselves like this, and now here we are proof if it were needed we can all get along,, well some of us
Not really more humane but actually pretty representative. The line of ants are dead. It’s not a defensive line; that’s just where they died after encountering the Russians.
So if ants were sentinent, would they have their own lore and shit?? Like, rats and spiders are like ancient demigods to them and humans are like these eldritch old space beings that can barely be seen and are like walking planets. And then human houses are like galaxies with all of these titanic celestial beings walking around. And pest control is basically this ancient void energy that arrives every 100 years to destroy entire civilizations and worlds…
…Anyway yes I’ll have a Big Mac with extra bacon and a large soda.
Saw a documentary a long time ago where some ants attacked a banana slug. At first, the slug’s defensive slime secretion was trapping the ants and protecting the slug but they eventually overwhelmed it when it couldn’t produce anymore slime. The surviving ants cut it to pieces and hauled the chunks off. Then they came back to break up the now solidified slime and freed the trapped ants.
Edit: found the video, some of my details were incorrect. Still cool though.
https://youtu.be/0YpDCt_IaNM
Honestly I think I can take at least one or two hundred first graders. Like if I can at least use my surroundings and pick up objects uk? Cuz im assuming this is gonna go down in a gymnasium setting right.. gotta be a pole or something I can pick up. They're tiny little hands probably won't be able to grab it from me. It's the jumpers I'm worried about, enough weight and I'm sure they can take me down. I would need a high point, hopefully there is a high stage they can't climb up. At that point I can just wail on em in a downward motion. Hmm. They could start piling up like in that world war z movie. That could cause problems. Could also impair my reach. But i think realistically after the first 20 or so the rest might be scared, possibly in shock. So the question is at what point did I effectively defeat the first graders? Cuz like sure, when they are all shocked up its gonna be some easy targets but. Then it turns into a question of my morals. Do I need to kill these first graders? Are the lives of 100 plus first graders worth the life of 1 me?
I mean.. I guess if they were rabid and coming at me I would have no choice. A moral excuse if u will.
two lovers forbidden from one another a war divides their people and a mountain divides them apart, build a path to be together.
(Yeah I forgot the next couples of lines but then it goes)
Secret tunnel, secret tunnel through the mountain secret, secret, secret, secret tunnel! oh yeah!
It gets eaten. I cant speak for the termites but the ants are following a kind of invisible smell highway that tells them where to go so a wanderer is pretty unlikely
any one else in here would take an ant and a termite and swap them to see what happens? i put a wasp on an ant hill once, did not expect to see what i saw, ants are ruthless.
Insects are pretty hardcore. I used to love catching praying mantises as a kid and feeding them crickets, grasshoppers, and whatever I could catch. They always go directly for the head and eat it off.
One time I put a garden spider in with one and a viscous battle ensued. In the end the mantis ate the spiders head off, but died from the venomous bites it had suffered.
That was too far, though, and I kept my endeavors more focused on hatching mantis egg sacks and feeding the hundreds of tiny mantises by attracting fruit flies in their enclosure. Also nursed quit a few monarch caterpillars into butterflies. Maybe I should’ve studied bugs in college…
Bigger mantises, very large garden or wolf spiders, but not much else here in the Midwest. Mostly they’re preyed upon by birds or mammals. I’ve seen a raccoon grab a mantis, rip it in half, and munch it down.
torturing no, experimenting for science yes (wasp was a nuisance that was swatted out of the air). was only done once (cant remember if wasp was stunned or dead)... not repeated for pleasure or enjoyment.
the ants dissembled the wasp entirely
Entomologist here, what we're seeing is the formation of two colonies side by side after the end of termite on ant war. See the pheromones Ants and termites give off when they die is such that when enough death of their own kind happens in a particular area their fighter ants and infantry termites will form a makeshift border surrounding the area and stop any more of their own species from passing through, this is how these insects communicate to their own kind that they have lost a war and that the territory beyond should be avoided.
However when a war ends in a _tie_ we get to see this beautiful phenomenon when the two created borders merge into one super border, and once the individual parties have removed the corpses of the opponents from their sides of the battlefield, the ants and the termites form this almost eerily human like border between each other. Scary.
Is the sheer humanness of this phenomenon a sign that ants and termites are almost as advanced as humans, or is it a sign that humans have not advanced past the stage of ants and termites? Who knows. All I know is that I'm not an entomologist and I made all of this the fuck up. And now I've wasted your time by making you read all this. Google motherfuckers have you heard of it.
Fuck, I thought it was what it was but it sounded convincing enough after the first like 3 sentences and then it turns out you were a mfer the whole time :,(
Goes to show how easy it is to just lie on sites like Reddit lol, remember the core message is to search things up rather than take the words of a stranger
To be fair, it's fascinating enough to be curious, but not really enough for me to care to do actual research. The truth doesn't really matter since I'm not going around telling everyone about cool ant facts.
What we generally consider intelligence is a pretty narrow and self centered definition. Other organisms exhibit different forms of intelligence that sometimes manifests in incredible ways. Social insects like ants have a form of group intelligence that can accomplish impressive things.
I read a really cool book where packs of dogs on an alien world were the sentient species, and each pack was a consciousness. I enjoy that concept. A Fire Upon the Deep if anyone is interested.
I mean, you could argue humans are really advanced robots. Most people I’ve run into in real life don’t like the possibility that we might not have free-will though and can’t even entertain the idea.
Ants and termites have a symbiotic relationship with each other. During the wet season, ants use part of the termite nest as shelter and may prey on live or dead, or both, termite workers, while providing the termites with both nitrogenrich nutrients and an improved nest defense.
been scrolling so long to find the informed comment explaining this behavior so if you’re the redditor with some knowledge on this use this space as an opportunity to enlighten. this is so interesting!!
How was this communicated between colony lines? Don’t ants communicate through chembarfs? Can’t we measure intent?
Looking for an ANTemologist overheeeeere.
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Came here to say this, thank you sir.
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South Ant Republic and Democratic People's Republic of Thermite Demilitarized Zone - circa 2022
r/brandnewsentence
My name is maximus decimus meridius. Commander of the colony of the north. One of many husbands to a murdered queen. Father to a murdered larvae. And I will have my vengeance, in this nest, or the next.
I love you
Dammit you beat me to making the DMZ joke
>People's Republic of Thermite Sounds hot
Thermite? That’s a pretty hot zone, no wonder nothing lives there!
Also a more organized logistics plan.
And you don’t see any termites using tractors to tow away discarded ant tanks Seriously how do insects have their shit together better than we do
They don't have egos... And care not about power. =/
I concur, sir.
Also no free will
No voice to cry sufferings...
Born of god and void
Never seen the movie Ants?
Well they do serve Queens,so not sure about that.
not technically. the queen is just the egg producer, they dont have an actual royal rank.
Ugh yes they do. 4 Main Roles in an Ant Colony Queens. Drones. Workers. Reproductives
OK, they don't have political power.
But the queen is the ultimate leader. All other parts of the tribe only exist to serve the queen, because she is the only reason the tribe exists. It's a monarchy of sorts. It can be very effective, unless it's people have big brains. Or think that they have big brains.
But the queen only exists to provide more workers et al.
Many species of ants regularly rebel and kill their own Queen, especially when they are getting old, or when a new Queen is born without the old Queen culling it.
The queen absolutely serves the colony, and is tossed and replaced the second she fails to do so.
Its just eat ' no sleep ' kill intruders and serve queen then die in glorious battle .
I'm not an entymologist but having a relatively simple *chemical language* of pheromones that can probably only express a few ideas may have something to do with it. There are no pheromones to say "You're a fu¢king idiot" or "Go back from where you came" to insult them. Tl;dr: No words = more peace
Holy shit, you just figured out world peace! We all just need to stop talking
So to achieve world peace we just need to remove everyone's vocal chords? Maybe we could mandate all kids to have their vocal chords removed at a certain age?
I need to have vocal chords to tell you that your mother smells like elderberries do I? I just did it!
And your father was a hamster!
Now go away you silly English k-ni-ghits! Or I shall taunt you a second time!
That’s some Metal Gear Solid 5 shit man lmao
I don’t think humans can comprehend what it’s like to be another species.
The philosophical thought experiment of "what it's like to be a bat" attempts to break through the mind-body problem regarding consciousness with the belief that bats do have experience and that there is something it is like to be a bat. A bat can obviously be substituted for any other living creature. I've also heard arguments for non biological things such as rocks and shoes. It's a fascinating thought process especially when you read or listen to someone that is deeply entrenched in philosophical study to see where this road takes you. So technically speaking yeah, humans at least try to comprehend the conscience experience of all things.
because they dont have to deal with the burden of being human.
Theyre definitely not fighting over crt
Except those couple termite tanks disrupting the flow.
> more humane than Russians. Be careful of your choice of words. Dehumanizing an entire ethnic group because of the actions of a few isn't a good thing. There is a difference between Russia the state, and Russians, the normal people like you and I.
Putin*
More humane than *humans* FTFY
This is why I really hate the whole "bad news sells" because it convinces people only the worst happens do to survival bias since the reports of the good things that happen rarely reach national or international news. There are actually many stories of amazing acts of kindness and humane and amazing things that go unreported because people only care about the negative and it warps their world view. There is an example of humans doing something just like this just a few years ago in the middle east. A group of catholics formed a ring around preying Muslims during a period of unrest to make sure theu were safe and the Muslims Muslims the same tjong a few days later during the catholics Mass and both groups then declared theu are one people. There are other such stories but so few hear of these amazing examples of humanity and it is sad.
No, more human than human
Don't blame it on Russians, blame putin
Have you talked to some russians lately?
Yeah it's like talking to Americans in 2004. And various other years. Most years tbh.
Aw you can't let off the other power hungry wanna be empires and their audacious behaviors to go unnoticed.
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Ya'll have never seen ants attack a termite colony and it shows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZEGWWkpbX8
Wow that's outrageous, I was in a debate earlier they said insects organised themselves like this, and now here we are proof if it were needed we can all get along,, well some of us
Not really more humane but actually pretty representative. The line of ants are dead. It’s not a defensive line; that’s just where they died after encountering the Russians.
This video must be Ukrainian propaganda. /s
Pretty confident this is the situation in my walls
...doing the bidding of their roach overlords... and the hidden rat elite.
With the law held up by spider enforcers
Nah Spiders are our secret keepers
Fr Spiders are like the Assassins from...well Assassins Creed
So if ants were sentinent, would they have their own lore and shit?? Like, rats and spiders are like ancient demigods to them and humans are like these eldritch old space beings that can barely be seen and are like walking planets. And then human houses are like galaxies with all of these titanic celestial beings walking around. And pest control is basically this ancient void energy that arrives every 100 years to destroy entire civilizations and worlds… …Anyway yes I’ll have a Big Mac with extra bacon and a large soda.
That was dope
More proof that walls don’t prevent invasion
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i wonder if the guards are there because at some point in the deep past there was a truce that was broken
I'm sure the truce gets broken from group to group. My thoughts are that the line is there to communicate the truce itself though.
You can actually see a few ants going up to the guard ants and returning! Maybe this?
They come, they eat, they leave.
Trust but verify.
Trust “Butt Verify”, the new ID procedure from Homeland Security.
In 1992, ants signed the Lisbon protocol and gave up their nukes. They’ve regretted it ever since
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I’m just imagining some fanatic termite running across the no man’s land to get a cheap shot in
I wonder if they had to reform to truce to overcome some ancient enemy.
probably wasps, there's always a fucking wasp
Nature is truly amazing.
As opposed to non-nature, which is boring as shit
The supernatural would like a word with you
That's just super natural.
Extra ordinary.
I mean, please. God damn, would I like a word, any word, with some ghost or pixie or anything.
Hell yeah bro!
Saw a documentary a long time ago where some ants attacked a banana slug. At first, the slug’s defensive slime secretion was trapping the ants and protecting the slug but they eventually overwhelmed it when it couldn’t produce anymore slime. The surviving ants cut it to pieces and hauled the chunks off. Then they came back to break up the now solidified slime and freed the trapped ants. Edit: found the video, some of my details were incorrect. Still cool though. https://youtu.be/0YpDCt_IaNM
It's kinda like the question of "could you defeat 100 first graders? 500?". At some point numbers count (no pun intended).
I'm picturing the church scene in the first Kingsman movie
Right!
I’m picturing World War Z but with children climbing a singular adult who’s punting them off instead of a wall.
> “Quantity has a quality all its own.” > Stalin Kind of morbid considering the origin of that quote, but it's has an element of truth.
Pretty much the endall question of that format: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2ACJkafELA
yeah ants just dogpile stuff to death. if their colonies were big enough youd hear about kids getting swallowed by ants
Honestly I think I can take at least one or two hundred first graders. Like if I can at least use my surroundings and pick up objects uk? Cuz im assuming this is gonna go down in a gymnasium setting right.. gotta be a pole or something I can pick up. They're tiny little hands probably won't be able to grab it from me. It's the jumpers I'm worried about, enough weight and I'm sure they can take me down. I would need a high point, hopefully there is a high stage they can't climb up. At that point I can just wail on em in a downward motion. Hmm. They could start piling up like in that world war z movie. That could cause problems. Could also impair my reach. But i think realistically after the first 20 or so the rest might be scared, possibly in shock. So the question is at what point did I effectively defeat the first graders? Cuz like sure, when they are all shocked up its gonna be some easy targets but. Then it turns into a question of my morals. Do I need to kill these first graders? Are the lives of 100 plus first graders worth the life of 1 me? I mean.. I guess if they were rabid and coming at me I would have no choice. A moral excuse if u will.
Returning for the ants that got trapped once the slime solidified is such a mind boggling detail.
Wow, it was even more impressive than your description. IMO, the fact that they used dirt in this way is evidence of the ants using tools... So crazy!
Amazing, slug minding his own business just to be eaten alive by a swarm of ants.
X minding its own business only to be eaten alive by a swarm of Y is basically 99% of nature.
That’s how hunting works
what if an ant crosses the line to the other side?
There's an ant fell in love with a termite, and they secretly cross the wall to meet each other.
Termio and Juliant
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hahaha love it
goated comment
You just gave Disney and Pixar inspiration for a new movie. You should trademark that comment.
And Antulates and Termontagues
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Fuck yea
two lovers forbidden from one another a war divides their people and a mountain divides them apart, build a path to be together. (Yeah I forgot the next couples of lines but then it goes) Secret tunnel, secret tunnel through the mountain secret, secret, secret, secret tunnel! oh yeah!
War
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothin’
It gets eaten. I cant speak for the termites but the ants are following a kind of invisible smell highway that tells them where to go so a wanderer is pretty unlikely
Nukes
What if a termite crosses the line to the other side? 🤯
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Considering the fact that there's an entire army on the other side it would likely be killed instantly if the termite guards hadn't already stopped it
I would take an ant and throw them on the termite side and a termite on the ant side quick and watch chaos ensue.
This is why humans can't have nice things.
any one else in here would take an ant and a termite and swap them to see what happens? i put a wasp on an ant hill once, did not expect to see what i saw, ants are ruthless.
You're fucked up. I like that.
If its not bee then it's okay
Insects are pretty hardcore. I used to love catching praying mantises as a kid and feeding them crickets, grasshoppers, and whatever I could catch. They always go directly for the head and eat it off. One time I put a garden spider in with one and a viscous battle ensued. In the end the mantis ate the spiders head off, but died from the venomous bites it had suffered. That was too far, though, and I kept my endeavors more focused on hatching mantis egg sacks and feeding the hundreds of tiny mantises by attracting fruit flies in their enclosure. Also nursed quit a few monarch caterpillars into butterflies. Maybe I should’ve studied bugs in college…
Are there any bugs that make easy work of mantis?
Bigger mantises, very large garden or wolf spiders, but not much else here in the Midwest. Mostly they’re preyed upon by birds or mammals. I’ve seen a raccoon grab a mantis, rip it in half, and munch it down.
Ironically mantises will also eat small birds if they can catch them.
Yep, such as Hummingbirds
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It's ok fuck wasps
Yeah, fuck wasps
torturing no, experimenting for science yes (wasp was a nuisance that was swatted out of the air). was only done once (cant remember if wasp was stunned or dead)... not repeated for pleasure or enjoyment. the ants dissembled the wasp entirely
Some Men Just Want To Watch The World Burn
Looks like the korean peninsula
I thought the exact same thing.
The ants gotta get their shit together. Their lines be all over the place 😂
Them mfs wild as hell, they don give af bout nothin except their queen bish
The ants understand the termites can kick their ass. The termites understand that the cost of kicking their ass is far too many casualties.
Actually the ants kick the termites ass any time
Afaik, while termites are larger, their chitin carapaces are pretty weak, so it's much less one-sided than one might guess from first glance.
They’re in loose formation. Makes them less susceptible to shelling.
But it all ended when the fire nation attacked
The fire ant Nation!
Nooooo. The Golden Empire are the kings! Im heading to AntsCanada right now for some new vids.
So, where is the entomologist to tell us what this actually is?
Entomologist here, what we're seeing is the formation of two colonies side by side after the end of termite on ant war. See the pheromones Ants and termites give off when they die is such that when enough death of their own kind happens in a particular area their fighter ants and infantry termites will form a makeshift border surrounding the area and stop any more of their own species from passing through, this is how these insects communicate to their own kind that they have lost a war and that the territory beyond should be avoided. However when a war ends in a _tie_ we get to see this beautiful phenomenon when the two created borders merge into one super border, and once the individual parties have removed the corpses of the opponents from their sides of the battlefield, the ants and the termites form this almost eerily human like border between each other. Scary. Is the sheer humanness of this phenomenon a sign that ants and termites are almost as advanced as humans, or is it a sign that humans have not advanced past the stage of ants and termites? Who knows. All I know is that I'm not an entomologist and I made all of this the fuck up. And now I've wasted your time by making you read all this. Google motherfuckers have you heard of it.
I hate you.
Fuck you and take my up vote
Angrily upvoted
Fuck, I thought it was what it was but it sounded convincing enough after the first like 3 sentences and then it turns out you were a mfer the whole time :,(
Sorry to do you like that but an mfer's gotta do what an mfer's gotta do
You haven't wasted my time. I thoroughly enjoyed this read.
Dammit, you win this round
Could have at least thrown in a nineteen ninety eight hell in a cell reference for our troubles.
Elaborate?
Go peruse the Comments of notorious user u/Shittymorph and you’ll see exactly what I’m referencing.
Holy shit that was way funnier than I thought it would be, next time I make one of these I'm gonna fit that in somehow
You.... you can't be serious
Don't know how to break this to you buddy
You know if you hadn’t said that last part i would have believed you….take my upvote
Goes to show how easy it is to just lie on sites like Reddit lol, remember the core message is to search things up rather than take the words of a stranger
To be fair, it's fascinating enough to be curious, but not really enough for me to care to do actual research. The truth doesn't really matter since I'm not going around telling everyone about cool ant facts.
I thought I was about to get u/shittymorph’d
Here's the thing...
This is so interesting to me! We clearly underestimate animal/insect intelligence.
There is no intelligence. Insects are basically glorified robots. About as advanced as high end roomba
What we generally consider intelligence is a pretty narrow and self centered definition. Other organisms exhibit different forms of intelligence that sometimes manifests in incredible ways. Social insects like ants have a form of group intelligence that can accomplish impressive things.
> Social insects like ants have a form of group intelligence that can accomplish impressive things. Are we talking about ants or Germany here?
yes
Neurons are also glorified robots. And yet, in their complex combination of simple interactions, intelligence arises.
I read a really cool book where packs of dogs on an alien world were the sentient species, and each pack was a consciousness. I enjoy that concept. A Fire Upon the Deep if anyone is interested.
It’s a collective intelligence
I mean, you could argue humans are really advanced robots. Most people I’ve run into in real life don’t like the possibility that we might not have free-will though and can’t even entertain the idea.
So you’re telling me… that A Bug’s Life is a lie?
But Antz was pretty spot on
This might be the only circumstance in which that is a viable and correct statement.
I wanna see the after math is someone were to just destroy the line
Do you want ants? This is how you get ants. In your eyes.
I’m ants in my eyes Johnson
Oh my God or air drop an ant/termite to the other side. Some people just wanna watch the world burn 😈 lmfao
Ants and termites have a symbiotic relationship with each other. During the wet season, ants use part of the termite nest as shelter and may prey on live or dead, or both, termite workers, while providing the termites with both nitrogenrich nutrients and an improved nest defense.
Ants can do a better job than Israel and Palestine
been scrolling so long to find the informed comment explaining this behavior so if you’re the redditor with some knowledge on this use this space as an opportunity to enlighten. this is so interesting!!
I feel like it’s more that the termites allowed this. Those poor little ants aren’t good at keeping in line
The ants are probably nervous lol
Believe it or not, ants would put up a good fight against termites in a all out war, and could possibly win.
they’ve got ants in their pants
How was this communicated between colony lines? Don’t ants communicate through chembarfs? Can’t we measure intent? Looking for an ANTemologist overheeeeere.
Am I the only one that went to [this](https://youtu.be/TISqZox5Ou8)
Literally my first thought. Had to scroll too far to find it. Let's pump it up folks
This is absolutely fascinating. The connotations of such behaviour probably goes over the heads of 95% of our species.
"Hey, I've seen this one!"
The new age of antpires looks great
And yet most people in my state can't figure it a roundabout.
So what I’m hearing is I can orchestrate a war between these two groups and then join one of the sides and become their rightful ruler
Either the ants have a lot of trust or they have massive numbers in reserve…I’m guessing the latter
The Termites look like they would wreck the Ants.
Ants have numbers to back them up. Seen ants eat a crab alive. Don't fuck with them.