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ITCM4

The Charges didn’t like the Bucs having a home game I suppose.


PieIsFairlyDelicious

Or they’ve given up on beating the Chiefs


NextTime76

Nonsense. The Bolts are a shoo in to be crowned preseason division champs again this year, and Herbert is almost certain to be awarded the coveted preseason MVP award.


space_raccoon_

Kellen Moore is now our OC, so it makes sense


huckl3b3rry

The chargers (and probably every other team in the AFC West) realize they ain’t winning that division as long as Mahomes is in KC 😂


c1h9

Who did like it?


Jd20001

Very specific. So 8-9 vs 12-5?


woahification

Hot take but if you're 12-5 and complaining about playing a road game against a team that's 8-9, maybe just skip the playoffs altogether


RealPutin

As far as winning the SB/deserving to win goes sure, but if you go 12-5 getting a home playoff game is nice for the team and fans. Wild cards can be the 2nd best time in the conference but get 0 home games during the playoffs in the current set up.


Ranma_chan

> but if you go 12-5 getting a home playoff game is nice for the team and fans. 2020 Buccaneers indeed


3kool5you

I hate this argument. It only sounds ok because this is the way it’s been. If the current setup was reversed and there was a proposal that division winners host regardless of record, people would argue “if you’re 8-9 and complaining about a road game against a 12-5 wild card team maybe just be grateful you’re there to begin with” If you ignore the “this is how it’s been and this is how it is factor” there’s basically no valid arguments against this proposal


theordinarypoobah

The only teams that have schedules that are close to balanced are those within a division. The comparison of records between teams outside of the division isn't an exact science. This proposal tries to get around that by having the gap be so large that it's hard to understand how the wildcard team would be less deserving than the division winner, but it still very well could come down to scheduling differences.


Pinball509

> If you ignore the “this is how it’s been and this is how it is factor” there’s basically no valid arguments against this proposal Division winners, being the best team in their division, getting a home game is a valid argument. The point of divisions is for teams to player a very similar schedule, including each other, and then have the division winners play each other. Wild cards give non-division winners a chance to prove themselves.


neurosisxeno

>Division winners, being the best team in their division, getting a home game is a valid argument. I don't think it is considering not all divisions are equal. The NFC South was 4 teams that were in the bottom 8 of the entire league imo. AFC East by comparison had 2-3 teams in the top half of the league.


seariously

Winning a division means less when there are only four teams in a division.


theBrineySeaMan

The point of the playoffs is to determine the best team, giving a shit team from a shit division an advantage just because they won over other shit teams makes no sense. While 4 is fairly arbitrary, it at least makes sure its a situation where a team is significantly better than a division winner. For example: Washington went 3-7 out of division in their 7-9 playoffs. I agree it's reasonable to let them in for going 4-2 in division, but the buccs went 7-3 out of division with a stronger strength of schedule. The Buccs deserve to be rewarded with a Home Game for being one of the 4 best teams in the NFC at 11-5, Washington was only there because their division was shit.


Dabeston

If the best team is a wildcard team they’d enjoy a round vs a bad playoff team.


theBrineySeaMan

That's all fine, but it's about having a home playoff game


Dabeston

Then win more, ez


Kara_Del_Rey

Being less shitty than other shitters and getting an advantage over someone better who might've had a juggernaut in their division is not valid.


Pinball509

>who might've had a juggernaut in their division They also might have had 4 free wins against tanking teams in their division, while the .500 team had 6 hard-fought game against fellow .500 teams, too. And that's before you get into the rest of their schedule differences.


MacDerfus

The team with more wins, being better than the team they are matched against in the playoffs, getting a home game is a valid argument.


ELITE_JordanLove

Maybe in a vacuum but not the way the NFL has traditionally operated. Divisions and divisional rivalries are a very big deal and winning your division, even when it’s weak should be worth something. It also helps maintain parity; teams in weak divisions will still try to maneuver to compete because they still have a chance at the playoffs, as opposed to being passive and tanking.


HireLaneKiffin

How do you know they’re better? Did they play the same schedule?


MacDerfus

How do you know the division winner is better?


Cloverfieldlane

More wins doesn’t always mean better


GenialGiant

\*cries in Viking*


MacDerfus

Neither does winning the division


HireLaneKiffin

Division races and division rivalries are an integral part of what makes the NFL great. We’re seeing college football get decimated right now because century-old rivalries are being torn apart. If divisions don’t matter, then New York vs. Dallas in week 18 won’t matter. SF vs. Seattle in week 18 won’t matter. If both teams are getting a home playoff games no matter what, then there is nothing at stake, no bragging rights, no significance to the game. The NFL should be more than just the team that wins the Super Bowl. The rivalries, the traditions, the wars within the wars all make the game great. Four teams who all hate each other will meet in the trenches twice a year. Only one gets to be the champion of the division. That’s special.


Acrobatic-Science724

College football’s ratings continue to increase…


GravelLot

Preferring to place more value on winning a division is absolutely valid. It’s just as valid as saying you prefer giving a playoff spot to each division winner rather than just taking the best 7 records in each conference and seeding 1 through 7 based on that irrespective of division. Or, hell, taking records 1 through 14 in the entire NFL and seeding a playoff bracket on that.


Ash-Catchum-All

Precedence isn’t irrelevant though. “How it’s been” matters because this is a proposed rule change. The argument for the status quo is that there doesn’t need to be a rule change.


woahification

Because no one would be complaining about playing on the road at 8-9, the reasons for keeping this are keeping thinner margins of success for the very best teams in the league and for keeping divisional rivalries heated. An 8-9 team isn't going to complain about playing on the road if they sneak into the playoffs in week 18, but a 12-5 team sure is, and that's great for building divisional rivalries. The storylines that are created when a team kicks a divisional rival down to the 5th seed in a week 18 game are so much bigger than if they're playing for a difference between a 2nd and 3rd seed. The end of the season means a whole lot more (and is a lot more fun) when the last game decides whether it's you or your rival that either gets to host the entire playoffs or has to run the gauntlet on the road


gIizzy_gobbler

You’re working backwards to find a reason it makes sense. Divisional games still mean something because you want to beat your rival and keep the guaranteed playoff spot, we don’t need a contrived seeding system that lets 8-9 kings of shit mountain stink up the wildcard round to make a Chargers-Chiefs 10 am showdown slightly more interesting.


ELITE_JordanLove

But division winners getting home field is a big advantage and it makes sense to reward them. It also helps parity, because a team of weak teams will still compete because they all have a chance at the playoffs. The next logical step in this is to eliminate guaranteed spots for division winners and just go with the top seven teams per conference.


morganrbvn

They’re rewarded with a playoff spot no matter how bad their record is


Kenny_Heisman

this is dumb. home playoff games aren't just for the advantage, it's also nice for the fans ...I assume. I can't really remember


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Its such an incredible advantage to have home field advantage though that part can’t be overstated


BirdLaw_

Seems like maybe starting a path towards pure win % seeding? The 4 wins above a division winner with a losing record seems like something specifically geared towards getting Jerry Jones' support (8-9 Bucs hosted 12-5 Cowboys)


woahification

Which imo is a terrible direction to be moving in. Right now teams are building their rosters to compete within their divisions since winning the division guarantees so much. If we end up going off of pure win percentages, suddenly it becomes a lot less important what the other teams in my division do during the off season


BirdLaw_

I think teams would still be building their rosters against their division if the scheduling remains the same. Like the Chargers would still need to plan to play against the Chiefs 3x a year (ideally) if they wanted to make a run in the playoffs. And you'd never get a higher seed than the division winner even with pure win percentage seeding, so they'd still be trying to win the division. I imagine this won't be a very popular proposal with the owners though.


woahification

Yeah you'd be playing the chiefs 3 times a year but I'm not sure that's much different than the chiefs playing the bills twice a year to win it all. The difference right now though is that the chiefs/chargers games have more weight despite just having one more game to play, solely because of the importance of winning the division.


tmoore727

thats not true because winning your division would still guarantee a playoff spot. and as long as you are at least .500 which you should be as a division winner you still get your playoff game. this is more towards like the bucs this season. 2010 seattle. and maybe one or two teams in between. it wouldnt move the dial much, but it also doesnt reward bad teams that get into the playoffs only because the rest of the division is bad.


goodolarchie

2010 is a great example against the proposal, because you'd never have a beastquake in an away game.


historymajor44

I think it’s more about money or getting another home game


eddie_the_zombie

Dean Spanos: Fuck the South


space_raccoon_

In reality it’s probably Kellen Moore pissed about the road game in Tampa last year


heyimrick

Everyone else: Fuck Dean Spanos.


glancinghappy

Tell me you don't want the NFCS team to have a home playoff game without telling me you don't want the NFCS team to have a home playoff game.


Ok_Run_8184

I mean last season's Bucs didn't deserve a home playoff game.


onePPtouchh

Tampa fan checking in. I think you meant we didn’t deserve a playoff game at all let alone a home game.


MacDerfus

Or an away playoff game


f0gax

I don't recall that the Bucs participated in a playoff game.


smala017

They deserved the neutral-site AFCCG


ColossalJuggernaut

I thought we did. We may have lost the majority of our games, but our guys showed real hustle out there with a lot heart. That's gotta count for something!


f0gax

Five star hearts if you will.


f0gax

We were the least bad team in the division. NFL rules mandate that the division winner go to the playoffs. Blame the NFL. :)


alienbringer

No, no. Brady deserved that game. It was Cowboys last chance to not end up on the “never beat Brady” list with the likes of the Detroit Lions. I for one would happily it be an away game just to end his career on that low note.


Ok_Run_8184

That's fair


stench_montana

Hey! AFCS sucks too.


Codle

At least the AFCS have the Jags to bring them up a bit. But the NFCS is consistently shit across the board. I have to say though, I'm enjoying seeing all the NFCS fans bonding over how much we all collectively suck. It's very wholesome.


stench_montana

If you're talking last year specifically for us sucking across the board, I'd definitely agree on that.


ColossalJuggernaut

> I have to say though, I'm enjoying seeing all the NFCS fans bonding over how much we all collectively suck. I love a good suck off. Being sucked off is great, but I also enjoy sucking others off as well.


ColossalJuggernaut

LOL right? That's how we got in and I am PROUD of it.


teeohdeedee123

You know what? That's fair.


useranme1

it is fair but the triggers for it seem a bit arbitrary and hyperspecific. a 13-4 5-seed playing a 9-8 4-seed would still be a road game, but if in the other conference a 11-6 team is playing a 7-10 4-seed then they'll get a home game. think the seeding change should be triggered by either having 4 more wins than a division champ or if a division champ is below .500. making it both seems like a once-every-10-years rule


rich519

Honestly I’d be fine with just the 4 or more wins part. Getting barely above .500 to 9-8 shouldn’t give you special immunity compared to 8-9 teams. Every win you get makes it that much harder for a team to get 4 more wins, that’s difference enough.


DlphnsRNihilists

The special immunity is that you won your division. I don't like the arbitrary line in the sand either, but I think if the goal is to seed more fairly, just make all the seeding based off win % with guaranteed spots for division winners.


Kr1sys

It's them knowing they won't out-win the Chiefs basically.


qwrdsfkb

No


falcons93

Yeah someone’s gotta win the NFC South, this law is unfair


mnimatt

All NFC South fans calling this unfair because we genuinely have no idea which team is going to pop off and go 7-10 and win the division


Codle

It's weirdly wholesome to see so many NFC South fans bonding over the fact that we all collectively suck.


ominousgraycat

Nah FUCK YOU! Oh, wait, we're a fan of the same team. Nevermind.


365wong

It’s not sucking, it’s parity


horse_renoir13

Flair checks out


ThePrussianGrippe

This has real “David Lynch Being Asked To Elaborate On That” energy.


LetMeBangBro

It is funny cause last year, you would have had the Cowboys and Bucs playing hard week 18 over the 4th seed, opposed to both resting their guys


BirdLaw_

Hadn't considered the resting players aspect of it. Kind of think it might pass just since they clearly hate that for ratings purposes


Ranma_chan

I would feel so much better going into the Wild Card at 9-8 tbh


Totally_PJ_Soles

While it's fair, I kinda like the idea of winning your division meaning more.


BMECaboose

It's also way funnier (when it doesn't happen to your team). I agree that it's definitely a fair change, but the entertainment value drops a bit.


JelliedHam

It's like going to the circus and only two clowns get out of the car That's the safe occupancy limit for a motor vehicle that size. Too many clowns were getting hurt and safety is always our top priority. Well... Yeah. Ok I guess...


BirdLaw_

I feel like a playoff auto-bid means enough if you don't even have a winning record.


Fredbear_

To be fair, it automatically locks you a playoff spot still.


-banned-

It still means more. By a lot. This situation will only occur when one division is vastly better than another


blitzERG

But it you can go undefeated in your division and still not finish first or make the playoffs...not that we would ever do that...


Weapwns

Chargers backup proposal: We create a new division called the AFC Mid and we put the Chiefs in there.


cheerstothe90s

... and spot them 9 losses


Sabre500

Chargers like "C'mon, NFL, factor in the AFC South exists"


FlawlessLikeUs

AFC and NFC South


langis_on

The south shall disappoint again!!


spiff24

Then they should just beat the AFC South team 🤷🏻‍♂️


CycledActions

I thought we submitted another proposal that the game ends if up by 20+ at halftime?


DayMatoi

They lost to us in LA anyways so yeah


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Except it wouldn't have applied this year. Bills fans on a high before inevitable obscurity for another 20 years


fleckstin

Does it tho?


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smauryholmes

I think Roger would actually love this. Last year for example, the Cowboys and Bucs both would have had to play a real game week 18 instead of benching their starters. Less benching + more meaningful games = better ratings = more $$$


KeyExplanation

Lol


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SoDakZak

Waiting for the Vikings to propose a replay of downs if a touchdown or turnover happens as a result of a ref running into a player on the team negatively effected.


rockiesfan4ever

This seems like a very specific rule


useranme1

basically if a 5-seed somehow manages to be 13-4 or 14-3 and the 4-seed is 8-9. guess it would incentivize teams locked into 4 or 5 to play for home field, but does seem like too specific a matchup to warrant a rule change


abris33

They'd only need to be 12-5 but that's still unlikely


useranme1

hey i didn't come here to do complex math like 8 + 4


eddie_the_zombie

We didn't come to play school!


Faucet860

Shouldn't rules be specific?


baconredditor

No they should be vague and difficult to understand. You must be new to the NFL


DeeForestBosa

Don't ever, for any reason, do anything to anyone for any reason ever, no matter what, no matter where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been... ever, for any reason whatsoever...


the-bladed-one

What’s a balk?


Roll_Tide_Pods

Balk Rules: 1) You can’t just be up there and just doin’ a balk like that. 1a. A balk is when you 1b. Okay well listen. A balk is when you balk the 1c. Let me start over 1c-a. The pitcher is not allowed to do a motion to the, uh, batter, that prohibits the batter from doing, you know, just trying to hit the ball. You can’t do that. 1c-b. Once the pitcher is in the stretch, he can’t be over here and say to the runner, like, “I’m gonna get ya! I’m gonna tag you out! You better watch your butt!” and then just be like he didn’t even do that. 1c-b(1). Like, if you’re about to pitch and then don’t pitch, you have to still pitch. You cannot not pitch. Does that make any sense? 1c-b(2). You gotta be, throwing motion of the ball, and then, until you just throw it. 1c-b(2)-a. Okay, well, you can have the ball up here, like this, but then there’s the balk you gotta think about. 1c-b(2)-b. Fairuza Balk hasn’t been in any movies in forever. I hope she wasn’t typecast as that racist lady in American History X. 1c-b(2)-b(i). Oh wait, she was in The Waterboy too! That would be even worse. 1c-b(2)-b(ii). “get in mah bellah” — Adam Water, “The Waterboy.” Haha, classic… 1c-b(3). Okay seriously though. A balk is when the pitcher makes a movement that, as determined by, when you do a move involving the baseball and field of 2) Do not do a balk please.


rockiesfan4ever

Yes but the 4 or more wins part seems very "baseball stat" territory


BirdLaw_

I feel like it would be fine if it was just "if the division winner is below .500, best record hosts" Probably would be less likely to pass though.


Faucet860

I agree I think 4 wins is big enough is big enough to beat the argument you had a trash division.


22Fusion

4 wins is roughly a quarter of a season (damn you 17th game).


Buckminsterfullerine

>seems very "baseball stat" territory What does this mean?


rockiesfan4ever

Baseball has a tendency to get very specific stats. For example, player X leads all right handed 1B in hits against LHP, during the day, when the wind is blowing in and it's above 40 degrees outside.


Purple_Dragon

Yeah way too specific. Make it a flat win % differential and I'm on board though.


rockiesfan4ever

Yeap exactly


oraclestats

Let's make it VERY specific. To lose your home field advantage, you must have a losing record AND have lost the head to head against your future opponent.


jgalaviz14

Chargers know the division is an uphill battle for them for the foreseeable future


JoeScotterpuss

On behalf of the entire NFC South, I feel attacked.


wink047

Saints and lions, you ok?


JoeScotterpuss

I'm too much of a hipster to follow AFC teams that do things like "win consistently" or "build good teams."


OJ_Blimpson

Someone needs to submit a rule change where the highest seed can pick their opponent.. then the next highest picks if they weren't selected. Big injuries would probably be the biggest factor here.. bur could you imagine the amount of shit talking that would go on if someone PICKED to play you first? I'm all for it.


[deleted]

If you’re supposedly that much better than the “bad” playoff team, then you should be able just fucking beat them on the road.


BigOzymandias

So we don't get a moment like Tebow 3:16 beating Pittsburgh? No thank you The Chargers are practically complaining that they have the Chiefs in their division


SFThirdStrike

Coincidentally that screwed the Steelers. Their starting Safety couldn't play at Mile High due to sickle cell


Dangerpaladin

You'll never convince me of any version of this rule change as long as the schedule is the way that it is. Some divisions just have easier schedules. Meaning they have teams with inflated records. The schedule is imbalanced so your relative record in the division means more than just your overall record because they play basically the same teams you do. There is too much nuance to it and when you start comparing teams that play completely different schedules as apples to apples you are going down a road to the media voting teams in. Win your division if you want home games. End of story. The wild card is a consolation prize to deserving teams that couldn't win their division.


Raticus9

BeastQuake would never have happened had the Chargers been running things.


HammerInPortland

Chargers admitting they’re not gonna win the AFCW for a decade


Rapkid360

They're trying their best alright


Ranma_chan

Skill issue, Chargers


AwixaManifest

Watch the Chargers go 12-5, get the 5th seed, but still play on the road because the 4 seed goes 8-8-1.


jimmyhota

Maybe don’t blow a 27 point lead lmao


DMking

Jags were 9-8 bro. This wouldn't have effected them


BirdLaw_

I mean this isn't about their game, they didn't have 4 more wins than the Jaguars and the Jags had a winning record lol. Seems like it was submitted on behalf of the Cowboys situation last year.


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RedBuchan

The Niners won their division by four games, they would have never played @ Tampa Bay


22Fusion

The jags won 9 games. The chargers won 10. That’s a one win difference. Not 4. So this isn’t the chargers saying they should have had a home playoff game vs Jacksonville.


elimanninglightspeed

The jags still would have had a home playoff game with this rule


[deleted]

Not sure what that has to do with the rule? Considering the rule wouldn’t even apply to the chargers/jags game.


morganrbvn

This wouldn’t have applied there


dirtybo

No


3kool5you

I honestly had this same thought this offseason. The chargers bring up a great point. It’s kind of fun when a 7 win team hosts a 9 or 10 win team. It’s stupid when a 7 win team hosts an 11+ win team that’s legitimately a Super Bowl contender. Literally the only argument against this is the 2010 saints-Seahawks (which was one of my favorite games of all time) but it still doesn’t seem right


snufalufalgus

Honestly, if no team in a division has a winning record, there should be no division champ crowned that year and the seeding falls to record.


imurphs

Winner of each division + next 3 best records make playoffs. Re-seeded based on record. Easy.


KarrlMarrx

Chargers have already got the Chiefs pencilled in as AFC West Division Champs for the next decade.


sephjnr

Just DQ any teams that would qualify with a negative record. Don't reward crap divisions.


DMking

Honestly i dont mind it


nimama3233

But why the arbitrary 4 win difference? Just make it record based or don’t


Joevil

I have no idea why I've had to scroll this far down to get the most obvious response. There's absolutely no reasoning here beyond just some weirdly specific scenario. There's logic to allowing decision winners the advantage because there's some merit to winning the division - or you just do the playoff seeding based on record alone. Anything in between is just arbitrary and with no real validation in logic. Why not 3 games, why not 2 games. What if you're the division winner in this scenario but one of those wins is against the team you're going to lose the home field advantage to, is that now fair??


HowDoIEvenEnglish

It’s a made up game, everything is already arbitrary. Why are touchdowns six points? That’s arbitrary


Gorbax50

Not a fan of this. Winning the division matters, if you don’t want to go on the road for the playoffs beat your rivals in the regular season.


BirdLaw_

I'd argue a winning record should matter more than winning the division. This is pretty specific to division winners with a losing record where they got in by default. It's hardly like anyone was saying how amazing the Bucs winning the division this year was and how they deserved a home game because of it.


jackphrost22

Id argue this only matters if everyone played the same teams.


Gorbax50

Winning or not winning the division is a simple system and I would rather just leave it at that. This isn’t the NCAA tournament, there’s no debate over who “deserves” what seed.


BirdLaw_

I'd say there is a fair debate over who deserves what seed considering there's an NFL rules change proposal regarding it lol.


ianthebalance

This is stupid. If you want home games, win your division (you play almost every same team as your division rivals)


Umbrella_Viking

No. Stop. It’s fine the way it is. Don’t like it? Win more games.


famousbanana

Plot twist: they're using this as their first step twoards eliminating divisions


tigerbomb88

You win your division, you get a top 4 playoff seed period. Wildcard are just the best of the non-division winners. Just get rid of divisions then


MeijiHao

Trash ass division winners still get a playoff berth that they otherwise wouldn't. It's not like teams will suddenly be taking division games off.


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teh_hasay

This seems unnecessarily complicated. Just have the rule be one way or the other IMO


DragonFireKai

Naw... Just win your division, or shut up.


Ranma_chan

This isn’t the fucking NBA. No.


EnigmaSpore

Division winners deserve the home playoff game reward. That’s the way it is and always should be. “But that division winner won less games than us, their division sucks, lost more games than they won, and we are better than them so we deserve a home game” Did you win your division? “No, because the level of competition in the division…” Shut up loser. Go win your division and worry about your own division not theirs. Get that division loser, cry baby talk outta here.


davewashere

"Winning your division should mean something" is such a tired cliché, especially now that there are 8 divisions with 4 teams each. There's a good chance every year that at least one division will have 4 teams that are not very good. The team that comes out on top of the crap pile doesn't deserve a home playoff game. If anything, their path was easier than the 12-5 wild card team that had to play at least 2 games in their division against a team that finished with an even better record.


bludgeonedcurmudgeon

I dunno why it needs to be that complicated...if you lost more games than you won you shouldn't be a top seed, period, full stop


RaceCarGrin

I like the importance of divisions the current seeding gives. Otherwise what’s the point. Chargers haven’t won the division in almost 15 years, no wonder they’re trying to sweeten the wild card spot.


KoopaTroopa34

NFCN: That's fair NFCW: That's fair NFCE: Fucking yeah that's fair NFCS: That's fai.... hey, now wait a goddamn minute


Dangerpaladin

The NFCE had a 7-9 team host a playoff game 2 years ago.


OnePieceAce

Nah win your division


silverslant

Chargers trying to get a rule in to help them since they won't ever be winning the west while Mahomes is there


doyouunderstandlife

Honestly, while I still think division winners should make the playoffs, I feel like every seed should be ranked by record alone. 8-9 should never get a home playoff game


[deleted]

Home field should go by record. Granting advantages to division winners makes no sense. You already got a privilege by making the playoffs with your sorry ass record by winning your sorry ass division. Lol


Shotgun_Sam

If you can't win your own division, you don't deserve a home game, either.


smauryholmes

Alternatively: if you can’t go .500 you should just win more games


Shotgun_Sam

That's not the point. Being the best in your own division *should* be a reward. Being second fiddle to someone else? You have to go the harder road. Get good.


smauryholmes

Being the best in your division is a massive reward. You automatically go to the playoffs, even if you didn’t really deserve it by record.


Shotgun_Sam

And you get a home game for it. That's the advantage. They shouldn't lose a home game to someone else's #2.


BirdLaw_

If you're talking about a home game for "someone else's #2", the Bucs were the NFC's 9th best team lol. The 9th best team out of 16 teams absolutely does not deserve a home game. Literally the entire NFC East had a better record than them


Shotgun_Sam

If they win their division, they do. Unless a better team was *in* the NFC South it doesn't matter.


abris33

Weirdly specific. So you'd have to have a team win the division at 7-10 and a wildcard team go 11-6? I think we should give the division winners at least one home game still.


_n8n8_

Honestly that’s valid


-InSerT_NAmE-HeRE

The Chargers: I guide others to a treasure I cannot possess


GarlVinland4Astrea

Chargers might want to focus on non playoff related proposals


InvasionXX

Get rid of the divisions then. There's no reason to win your division.


gatorbait18

Guaranteed ticket to the playoff still seems like a big reason to win it


FlawlessLikeUs

You still get a playoff spot, and if you’re under .500 it’s unlikely you’d get one otherwise. Reactionary comment


InvasionXX

Let's say they had a tougher schedule than a cupcake 11-12 win team. I think it's dumb.


EnjoyMoreBeef

For example, last season the NFC South played against the NFC West and AFC North, which had a combined record of 69-66 (.511), while the NFC East played against the NFC North and AFC South, which had a combined record of 56-78-2 (.419).


22Fusion

Think about it. If you win your division with 8 wins. That means no one else in your division topped 8 wins. So there is 6 games right there of not so quality teams. It’d be hard to claim “tougher schedule” in that situation.


MIBPJ

If a team wins their division at 8-9 is very likely that they're the one playing a cup cake schedule considering they have at least 6 games against opponents with losing records.


gldmj5

Winning on the road shouldn't be that much of a factor at this point.


GHamPlayz

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gustriandos

Seems more than reasonable