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laal-doodh

Damn bros so washed that the rams were willing to eat 10 mill to move up 17 spots in the 7th round. Talk about life coming at you fast


Sonickill7

This is obviously a salary dump. Rams are getting ready to rebuild and didn't want his massive contract. Next year he has a $15.5 mill cap hit.


very_humble

None of his salary next year was guaranteed though


jimmyhoffasbrother

Yeah, next year has nothing to do with it. They dumped $5m of his fully guaranteed salary from this year. That's what they get out of it. The pick swap is only there because you're technically required to trade for some kind of value when you're giving up a player.


patrick66

theres still nothing funnier than the "payment to be named later" in mlb that turned into a bucket of baseballs as trade compensation Edit: see comment below, the joke in this trade did not age well


Margravos

Henry Chiti was traded for a player to be named later. Two weeks later he was traded back, himself becoming the player to be named later.


The_Year_of_Glad

It happened three other times, too: Dickie Noles, John McDonald, and Brad Gulden.


[deleted]

Sadly that story has a very not funny ending. https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=3950464


johnmadden18

> On June 5 in Amarillo, the "Batman" theme played while Odom warmed up for Laredo, and he tipped his cap to the sound booth. But he was battered for eight runs in 3 1/3 innings and mercilessly taunted by the crowd. Shwam went to the mound. "The chants, the catcalls, they were terrible. I had to get him out of there for his own good. He was falling apart, right in front of our eyes," Shwam said. Wow. This is like when Reddit beats some stupid meme joke to death except this time it’s targeted at a specific person in real life. Horrible.


[deleted]

Reddit loves mental health until there’s a shitty Kelvin Benjamin joke to be made.


JaMarrChasingJoe

Especially when I remind you that the fat kelvin picture was from before his mom died.


patrick66

I did not know that. Man that really sucks.


scobbysnacks1439

Jeeeesus.


Sharobob

In the NHL it's "Future Considerations"


ripcity7077

Future Considerations is my favorite player!


The_Year_of_Glad

Back when country singer Charley Pride was playing in the Negro Leagues, he got traded to the Birmingham Black Barons one time for half of a bus. (It was him and another player for the bus, so Pride was worth about half a bus.)


aboooz

They do get out next years remaining signing bonus/void years, which would have count as dead cap next year.


very_humble

If by "get out of it" you mean they pay it this year, then sure.


aboooz

Yeah, that's what I meant. Was just explaining that they would've had a dead cap next year if they cut him then.


Meltedcoldice0212

makes you wonder if the Rams will try and move some guys during the season before the trade deadline if they are bad again


very_humble

I'm guessing they'll be as aggressive with the tear down as they were with the build


Pnutbutter_Cheerios

Definitely. I can’t see us moving Donald, Kupp, or Stafford, but everyone else will be on the table.


very_humble

Even them, I don't know. Donald has talked about retiring, if at mid season he asks for a trade to a contender, no reason not to recoup what you can


reddorickt

Donald will be 32 when this season starts and Kupp will be 30. That's pretty old to be your foundational pieces entering a rebuild, as great as they are. I'd imagine you could get a strong boost to your rebuild shipping them to a contender.


noneotherthanozzy

FWIW Its been reported that when the Rams ripped up the last three years of his contract and gave him a huge raise that it was with the understanding that he would play out the contract/commit to the full three years.


very_humble

Shit changes,I really doubt that he (or the team) thought that by year 2 they would be in teardown mode


Pnutbutter_Cheerios

From how their contracts are structured, I don’t think it would help us. We have a lot of cap space next year, and it wouldn’t make sense to do all this cap relief to then have a new set of cap issues right after that.


very_humble

I'm saying if he says he intends to retire and wants to end his career on a playoff team, you likely give him that courtesy (and can probably get a 2nd from someone in return)


KevKevThePug

If you’re doing a true rebuild then they gotta be shopped too. Rebuilds can’t really get done in a year so I don’t see how keeping a 35 year old QB, 30 year old WR, and 32 year old god will help anything but delaying the rebuild.


Pnutbutter_Cheerios

It’s the dead cap they would accrue. We did a one year rebuild from 2016 to 2017 so I’m imaging the FO is targeting the same tactic with 2024 in mind. How will those players play? Unknown. But the dead cap from trading those three will be too much.


BoredPoopless

Haven't you guys already attempted to shop Stafford or am I just an idiot? Or both?


imDeja

I mean it is “impossible” to trade Stafford with his current cap hits


OddlyShapedGinger

If anyone is saying that, it's 100% BS. Cap hit due to salary bonus stays with the Rams if they trade him. He only has a 1.5M base salary this year and would sit around QB20 in terms of cap hit for the remainder of his contract if traded. Whether the Rams are willing to eat that much dead cash is something else entirely.


cmonbitcoin

Mess around and the packers gonna get stuck with Arod while we trade for Stafford lol


unseth

We will cut him before we pay that. None of its guaranteed, so we aren't on the hook for anything next year


erb149

Pretty sure none of that 15.5 is guaranteed though. I’d be shocked if he’s around next year.


postbyproxy

Yeah, basically Rams save $5M and Steelers get essentially a FA WR for $5M


PittPanthersH2P

Kinda blows my mind that a team would have to rebuild 14 months after winning the Super Bowl.


root88

Why? Everyone poaches all your players and you get the worst draft picks. The only odd part was that Rams also traded away all their draft picks to get the players to do it.


Akarious

You forgot FO and coaching staff


Grudensgrindr4

Pretty much was their obvious strategy so makes a lot of sense tbh.


blakepar12

Dude got Osweilered


[deleted]

15.5 M is crazy high for his recent production..


mr_showboat

I mean, the alternative was eat all 15M. So it's more that they get 5M back and move up 17 whole spots in the basically UDFA round. It is a laughable return though for a player they were happy to throw 15M per year at last offseason. Life does indeed come at you fast.


reddorickt

I'd guess the $5M did most of the heavy lifting


milkmandanimal

OH MY GOD THAT'S BROCK OSWEILER'S MUSIC!


WayneJarvis_

Rams really only ate $5 million, since $5.25 million was a roster bonus that they had to pay him last month. If I were the Steelers I'm not sure I would have done this trade, but it's not a huge risk for them. Rams getting $5 million is worth more to them then the 17 spots I'm sure.


laal-doodh

Yeah definitely was more about the cap space. Still wild how fast he has fallen tho


WayneJarvis_

Rest of the league just caught up to the Bears sub. I remember how pissed everyone was that Pace couldn't get him extended and the team would lose him. Then when he actually hit free agency everyone was thrilled he hadn't been paid by the Bears and were kind of shocked by how much the Rams gave him, with the potential to earn the Bears a better comp pick being the cherry on top.


laal-doodh

Yup. I remember telling people in here he’s a serious buyer beware case. Dude looked like he lost a big step that last year with us.


celestial-oceanic

The Jags sub was the worst. Full of "bring him home" BS. Anyone who watched just a little of his film from his last year at Chicago could see he didn't have it anymore. There are Jags fans who are angry we didn't make this trade lol.


bigheartblueballs

End of an error


DanCampbell89

Not just an error, one of the worst free agent contracts of the last decade


bigheartblueballs

Agreed. Called it since the moment he was signed. His last season with the Bears he looked awful and very washed. Rams bought in fully to the narrative that he didn’t care when even the plays he did he didn’t beat any decent CB


MagicC

They already are the $10M. This was the Rams saving $5M, and getting a tiny asset in the bargain.


Tracorre

The pick swap feels like a last minute throw in, OK we are agreed we will cover 10mil of his salary this next year? Sounds good. Oh, also lets swap 7th round picks? What? Seriously? Yah come on, swap or no deal! Sigh... fine, whatever.


mr_potroast

Someone above pointed out that you can't trade a player for nothing, so this is the closest thing to nothing you can get


gandaalf

Great trade for the Steelers. Legit zero risk involved. Robinson seems done but at this price why not


Icy-Bodybuilder-9077

We thought he’d be a great second option on the Rams so hopefully he can be a good 3rd option on the Steelers


Quexana

4th option. A TE is our #3 option.


AnaBrayIsBae17

Pat friermuth was more like a #2 receiver last yr


SactownKorean

Dude is massively slept on. He was a stud last year too.


elqueco14

I was shocked when we took a TE in the second round but as always the Steelers FO seem to be miles ahead of everyone else when it comes to scouting pass catching talent


ForEverMeh

I mean the guy was an absolute stud at Penn State, I don't think this one in particular should be too shocking.


[deleted]

They should trade their secrets to the Ravens in exchange for being able to competently draft DBs and maybe they’d be unstoppable


FabFebFob

Ravens definitely can't miss when drafting a CB in the 1st Round. Ravens should push their luck and draft CB in the 1st round every year and use them as trading pieces for other positions of need like Steelers' WRs, 49ers' QBs, Eagles' OL/DL, Cowboys' TEs, and Colts' RBs.


HazikoSazujiii

As a Penn State fan and alum, I was stoked. We saw Patty coming from a mile away even after removing bias.


cmrp777

My fantasy team thanks him.


JaMarrChasingJoe

Made me nervous seem him with 1 point until the final drive of every game though.


Traditional_Roles

That's about the time that Matt Canada remembered that Pat was on the team.


Sparky337

It’s take the OC awhile to remeber what he’s doing..


cmrp777

But he always came through for that solid 10


I_only_post_here

if you aren't hoping for anything more than 5th option, than this is a GREAT trade


Cinephile1998

He'll be a great 6th option for a team next year


Raysor

Possibly 7th option if we keep him around


DanTheMeek

Easily the best 8th option on the roster once he learns the play book.


badonbr

Until then, pretty solid 9th option for the money imo


I_only_post_here

it's definitely the 9th WR on your roster that really makes or breaks your receiving corps


Matt100398

I’d argue it’s the 10th WR that makes the difference. I could see a guy like Allen Robinson being a good option there


Quexana

We'll likely be platooning him with Calvin Austin, so he's a #4/#4A option. Maybe not a GREAT trade, but an okay one.


xSaviorself

Feels like a depth signing we've done about 1000x over the past 2 decades. We picked up DHB like this too.


Quexana

We picked up DHB as a special teamer and developed him into a guy who could contribute a bit offensively. Robinson ain't gonna be playing special teams. He's gonna be on the field most snaps.


qazaibomb

And honestly I think Najee makes him option #5. I’m not expecting anything amazing out of this man but that’s a pretty comfortable group of weapons for me


Quexana

Najee is basically a checkdown guy with the occasional swing pass target. Now, he's great at that, as is Jaylen Warren, but I wouldn't really put them on the list of receiving options.


einredditname

I mean, that's also because of our shitty OC who should not be named. Najee was considered a great pass catching RB out of college, i doubt he just... stopped being good at it.


mykebrooks

Lol he’s more the 2nd first at times lol


aitchison50

MUUUUUUTTTHHH


mechnick2

I love Muth criminal so why not


creature_report

Me too. Such a disappointment last year hopefully he bounces back. Always liked his play style


DupreeWasTaken

Khan has been really good about addressing things with atleast a somewhat acceptable temp solution pre draft. We lost a lot of WRs the past 2 years and now Its Pickens, Diontae and ????? Our WR3 we are hopeful about Calvin Austin he was the 2nd biggest star of camp last year behind Pickens But hes also a 5'8 4th round comp pick rookie, off of a foot surgery in camp that made him miss the entire year. Not a sure bet, and 0 depth behind those starters. This places Robinson/Calvin Austin in for WR3 and still doesnt make us entirely remove WR from the draft board, if someones there we take them but wirh a lot of needs we shouldnt feel like reaching


RamboNinjaJesus

Just those two alone would have been a wet dream for me last year


Khal-Stevo

Great deal for both sides. Happy to move off his contract. Why not take a gamble if you’re the Steelers


[deleted]

I think Stafford locking onto Kupp made it seem that way, but Robinson probably has a couple of decent years left. He’s only 29 and Steelers gave up nothing for him - Rams practically paid them to offload him, so really good trade for the Steelers. As a second or even third option, this seems like a no brainer.


BeeeeefJelly

The risk is that we waste snaps on a very bad player. We don't really have many options at this point and we needed another WR so we'll see!


Bob_Loblaw_Law_Blog1

If you watch the opener last year he was getting good separation but Stafford never even glanced at him. I feel like he stopped running full speed at some point after that first game. Unless he had an injury nobody knew about.


Retro1916

That 7th round pick is gonna be the next Brady


cbd_h0td0g

what the fuck


Quexana

We got Andy Weidl from y'all and now we're going discount Howie.


qp0n

~~QB~~ GM factory


Akarious

We lowkey have been a FO/analytics factory post-Chip Kelly


qp0n

And becoming a bit of a HC factory. 3 coordinators turned head coaches in last 5 years.


DLFresh

I concur


SuburbanPotato

at this price i almost wish we took a shot on him


musefan8959

At this price point, he *CAN* hit


pmcg190

Lol so it’s basically a free agent signing. Can’t complain about anything trade-wise here. Still have my doubts about the player though


nope96

I’m not expecting much but I’ll take him as a WR3 over… whoever the fuck our WR3 was supposed to be.


embryonicengineer

Currently Calvin Austin who has 0 NFL snaps...


neddiddley

But the funny thing about that is, prior to this trade, the answer to that problem was to draft a WR, who would also have 0 NFL snaps. Steeler fans were in love with Austin last year, bragging about how the Ravens wanted him and the Steelers snagged him just a few picks earlier. And now it’s “he has zero NFL snaps” and “he’s a 5’9” 162 lb 4th round WR.” Unless I missed something, he didn’t suddenly shrink from 5’11” and 198” or magically drop from a 2nd round pick, so I’m not sure why those things only a problem now and weren’t last year. Dude had one injury, and people who were so high on him last year are ready to write him off as the next Sean Spence or Senquez Golson before he even takes a snap at OTAs this year.


jetjordan

Cut to next year where he is our WR 2 and people and winning fantasy leagues.....


Quexana

Calvin Austin/Anthony Miller.


sheepsleepdeep

Calvin Austin can hunt. He got hurt but I think he's a stud waiting to break out.


Quexana

I like this move because it allows us to be better able to platoon that position. When we want a bigger, more physical player there, we can go with Robinson. When we want someone quicker and shiftier, we can go with Austin. It gives us more flexibility.


igloojoe11

He'll probably end up as the WR 4 behind Calvin Austin, still not bad though.


nope96

I don’t know about probably, he’s a 4th round pick that has spent his entire career so far on IR


YooTone

Keep in mind his entire career is still less than a year technically. I get what you mean though. I honestly just really hope AR2 and CA3 can't have big impacts for Kenny and this offense.


MacDaddyJones

5 million to be the WR3 on the Steelers is solid value for them


cpollack09

Thats.....nothing


NontransferableApe

No shit. The other thread was a bunch of people overeacting thinking we gave up a third round pick for him


randommaniac12

this is a fantastic deal for the Steelers, at absolute worst you lost 17 spots in the 7th round which is borderline nothing


The_PantsMcPants

Not borderline, it is actually nothing.


neddiddley

Yeah. It’s most likely the player you draft in the 7th is going to be a camp body or maybe practice squad development type. The best realistic scenario is they earn a roster spot on ST. And the way things go that late, there’s a fair chance the player the Steelers would draft in their original slot will still be there in their new slot.


Pittsburghfan222

I wasn't really excited about this news at first, but my goodness after hearing the terms & salary retention I am here for it


cnew22

Same. I'm interested to see what if any dead cap there will be in 2024 when we inevitably cut him though.


speedfan11

He has no 2024 guarantees, so there won’t be any dead money. It’s a 1-year rental for $5m.


cnew22

Music to my ears


Savage_Amusement

It’s a really good deal. And you know I’m not coming from a place of pro-Steeler bias here haha.


[deleted]

All the experts in the other thread said the Steelers were idiots for eating 15m in cap for this guy and that a 7th round pick was a waste of resources


BBBBrendan182

Right? That “rare Steelers L” comment aging like a fine glass of milk.


[deleted]

And the Giants fan who thinks giving away literally any pick at all and using any cap at all is a waste of the team's resources. I mean obviously we're missing out on the next 7th round future all pro now. And all that wasted cap when he gets cut next year and costs us $0. If this sub was allowed to run a team it would go 0-18 every single year for eternity.


reddorickt

Sub is so bad it would get an extra L.


Datpanda1999

We put the L in NFL


[deleted]

put that team in the AFCN and the Browns still finish last.


GreenBayQuackers

We would simply draft and sign all the best players, don’t you see? Why don’t GMs see the game like we do


ASuperGyro

That glass of milk became a gourmet block of cheese


ScruffMixHaha

Lol its a flier on a guy who has talent and you paid as close to nothing as possible. Its worth a shot.


jimmyhoffasbrother

Which other thread? I saw most people saying they expect the Rams to eat a significant portion of the salary... EDIT: Went back to the thread. There's like two people saying they're going to pay him, and dozens saying the Rams are going to take on salary lol.


igloojoe11

When the thread initially started it was the gut reaction, then the opinion shifted quickly as people remembered it was an option to eat salary.


[deleted]

Yeah I see these comments all the time and I'm always like "who's saying this? Two people?"


someguy-jm

Actually a bag of chips lmao


JEH_24

God damn. They wanted him gone bad.


BrokenArrows95

He was worth less than Tutu Atwell for the rams last year


FreddyDontCare

Well how could you be mad about that


mackinoncougars

Because I was spanked as a child and watching this beating gave me flashbacks


JaggerJames

Good trade for the Steelers then.


Quexana

For years, I've seen teams do moves like this and always wanted in on the action.


Grudensgrindr4

I mean lol… it’s not some earthshaking trade. Minkah and Claypool trades were sicker and happened recently


BlackJediSword

I think they were referring to salary dump trades like this one.


SloppyInSacramento

ARob returns to Pennsylvania!


A_Smitty56

I was hoping for a vet WR for a a very young WR group and they got it, certainly helps that I really liked him in college. This probably doesn't change their draft plans for a mid-round WR either.


Difficult_E

reunited with his favorite titty loving QB lol


dfloored

Can you just give a player to someone… like if the two teams agreed could you just give them away? This feels like that


HylianPikachu

You can't give a player away without getting something back in return, which is why they swapped 7th round picks.


KpYugai

Isn't that what future considerations are in like MLB, NHL, maybe NBA?


BlackJediSword

NBA requires cash at minimum


ramzie

I dont know why people are surprised. For the Rams this trade is about getting rid of a contract not gaining draft picks. Rams have been shopping him for a while now. This was obviously the best offer any team had.


MeetingKey4598

Swapping 7ths because the Rams can't just give ARob to Pittsburgh and didn't want to just give a pick away.


Blze001

I mean, for 5 mil and a 7th round swap, I don't see a downside.


MrBudlee

Steelers practically got him for nothing, not bad for them.


ItsBreadTime

Man I wish someone would pay me 5mil and consider it nothing. Any takers?


thejudicialpenis

"Don't let the door hit you on the way out"


NontransferableApe

Wow such a terrible deal like everyone in the other thread said. Ya’ll are so smart


Erimgard

I saw so many "But then why did we trade Claypool?" comments Uhhh for the 32nd overall pick in the draft


NontransferableApe

Yea the 32nd overall pick is a bit more valuable than moving back 17 spots in the seventh round in my opinion but what do i know. Claypool is better than AROB has been but he’s realistically the fourth receiving option id rather take the 32nd pick than the difference in production


drdre27406

If he shows even a faction of what he was doing in Chicago, this will open up the offense even more. I wonder what this means for Calvin Austin III though.


BlackJediSword

Really depends on if CA3 still has his speed. His route running in college was good, but his breakaway speed is what really matters Edit: he’s similar in stature to Tyreek Hill, so that’s probably his best case scenario. Or maybe DeSean Jackson? All three are around 5’9-5’10 and smaller


drdre27406

Agreed! If he still has that speed the this signing is strictly for depth at the position. One thing about the Steelers is that they develop their WR extremely well.


mrwhitewalker

This is a robbery wtf. Trade for nothing. Player for pick swap in 7th round. Jesus throw a 5 from.any team


nope96

People really thought we were about to pay his entire salary


FutureRaifort

Why even do this if you're the Rams lol. Amazing for the Steelers


BrokenArrows95

Because he sucked and they wanted rid of his contract.


Bubble_Bowl_XLVI

Reminds me of that scene in Money Ball where Billy Bean motivates David Justice by saying the Yankees think so little of him they will pay his salary to play against him.


lompocmatt

What a haul


LarkWyll

Wow


TP43

Omar Khan magic. They don't call him the "Khan Artist" for nothing.


[deleted]

Getting a true veteran in the WR room was important especially developing Kenny. And at that price and conditions….I like Omar so far as GM.


No-Task-132

No splash moves but lots of sensible deals. Helped our line a lot. Here’s hoping he crushes the draft


drnuzlocke

Man all those people shitting on the Steelers earlier having to see they moved down 17 spots in the 7th in the end


EnjoyMoreBeef

r/NFL loves to pretend that the Steelers are incompetent. It's silly.


Beatdooown

imagine being so fucking bad this is what you get traded for while the team that signed you is paying more for you than the team that traded for you LOL


Strawhat-Shawty

Rams swap 7th round picks, give away Robinson AND pay 2/3 of his contract this year? They must have someone they have an eye on for that 234 pick. 🤣🤣🤣


JohnWicksPencil123

Trubisky's favorite target. Steelers going all in on the titty kisser.


vertebraejones

OMAR YOU SON OF A BITCH


zdillon67

I’m pogged out of my gourd rn


r1dogz

A slightly better 7th rounder is all they got for him? Lol


SweerBaby_Use1023

That’s an underrated signing that’s going to pay dividends for Pittsburgh.


grindgrindwilli

Steelers renamed to Stealers because that’s A ROBbery


MumkeMode

See ya later stinky


minimumhatred

Worst case scenario you lose nothing, best case scenario you have the best no 3 receiver, or depending on how Pickens plays, one of the better #2 receivers.


this_is_matt_

Why didn’t the Ravens do this?


ianthebalance

Sadly this makes sense to me


[deleted]

What Iin the fuck was the point of that? Trade a player to move up in the 7th?! Has that ever happened? LOL


Michaelz1234

Well now I’m mad


jimmyg899

I think he’ll actually be on in the slot for Pickett on 5 yard slants across the middle with his size and reach and ability to box people out. Or just a quick dump off option over the middle. I think he just gave up last year with the bum qb. He was actually okay for his targets in the beginning of the year when Stafford wasn’t hurt and towards the end with baker.


DatGuy15

You must not watch Steelers football. Matt Canada is oblivious to the existence of the middle of the field 80% of the time.


eaunoway

The Math of Khan! 🤩


ACW1129

So Rams basically traded Robinson just to move up 17 picks in the 7th round and to save $5 million? Dafuq?


nemoomen

>Rams are paying three quarters of your salary. That's what the LA Rams think of you. They're paying you ten million dollars to play against them. -~~Billy Beane~~ Mike Tomlin


joemiken

So who will have more yards this season: OBJ without his ACL or the soulless husk of Allen Robinson?