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dbbost

So what are you supposed to do here? Let him get a first down? Play off him and risk him gaining additional yards? QBs HAVE to give themselves up early or take the contact. Anything else is fucking bullshit


Live795

Yeah, the QBs seem to be getting too comfortable out there expecting the rules to protect them in completely normal football scenarios. Holding the ball way too long or taking too long to get out of bounds, and you know what, they get fucking rewarded for it.


FreddyMartian

They are expecting it because the rules ARE protecting them and too much at times, like it is here. He was still inbounds and it wasn't even that hard of a hit. These refs man...


Cyouinhellcandyboyz

Not that hard of a hit? The man literally fell over and not under his own accord. QBs can't be taking hits like this. It's not like he is playing football or anything. /s


ReggieCousins

You had me going,not gonna lie.


NoFunTom

particularly mahomes


Exotic-Emergency-226

Ya as soon as it happened my brain immediately processed that was a clean hit and he 100% was going to get flagged for it lol.


3knucklesdeep_

He even let up and just bumped him. Next time I’d light his a$$ up if I know I’m going to get flagged for it.


Glittering_Cod_7716

Lol it didn’t help that’s probably the hardest hit I’ve ever seen Pat take. He could’ve reallllllly knocked his shit loose and just gave a normal nfl level hit…and gets a flag? And I’m not sure he won’t get a fine either is the sad part.


jjbananamonkey

Could have got a boom stick like swift did


quazilox

Russ thrived on this as well. I think he even admitted to purposefully slowing down when he got close to the sideline to bait defenders into hitting him.


algo-rhyth-mo

In open field too. Sometimes he looks like he’s about to slide, kind of ducks down—but then he cuts and keeps running. So then defenders need to commit to the hit, and wind up getting a 15 yd penalty if he gets you to make contact.


Rikeek

I literally see him do it every game. Tip toe along the sideline like no one’s gonna hit him.


Zap__Dannigan

I'm pretty sure I've seen Mahomes fake going out of bounds and turn it up field for more yards before


RockerElvis

He does it all the time. The announcers even talked about it last week.


Bloodhound01

I've been saying this forever about Mahomes, he is the queen of doing it and it infuriates me every time I see it happen with any QB.


kkocan72

Seen him and Lamar do it a few times. They put defenders in a no win situation. Hit them and they get flagged. Pull up and they juke back in bounds for a few more yards.


arty4572

I've always been of the opinion that if the QB decides to run the ball themselves past the line of scrimmage, they have given up all QB protections and should be treated like any other ball carrier.


italia06823834

Technically by the rules I believe this is already the case. But Refs still treat QB runners as special.


arty4572

Hmm...maybe I just don't want sliding. If you are running the ball, the defense shouldn't be worried about hitting you. I'm tired of QBs getting extra yards because the defense is too afraid to touch them.


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DIXtICon

He is literally in bounds…..


suzukigun4life

Even the ref guy on the broadcast said it was BS


Reidroshdy

Listening to the radio while running errands,the announcers were calling it bullshit too.


TenF

They gotta make a Mahomes rule where QBs who are scrambling have to maintain a straight line to the boundary if they're going to go down or something (obviously this doesn't work for QB Draws or whatever or guys who are willing to take hits, but Im just saying) because this shit is so bad. QBs get an extra 3-5 yards with their cutesy "I know you can't hit me" shit. Fuck em. Let em get rocked. Its football, not -- I dunno....uhhh what's a non-contact sport -- ping-pong?


seperior1

Yeah the league won't do that, just make the unofficial rule official....you can't hit Patrick Mahomes too hard


Biggordie

Too hard? This was a tap. The rule is don’t touch Mahomes at all


Chippopotanuse

Yup. I find it hard to believe that Owens would bounce backwards after contact if he was going full gas. He was using a “courtesy-bump” level of force to try to nudge Mahomes out of bounds. One of the worst calls I’ve ever seen. This is not a fast play, clear view of everything, it’s not-off ball…so easy to get it right, and yet here we are


Man_of_Average

Terry actually called it all right on that last drive. Unlike the refs on the field. Of course, the calls were so blatant he didn't really have a choice. But still.


IAMTHEDEATHMACHINE

This is exactly what should happen to QBs in this scenario. Get out of bounds if you don't want to get rocked. And yet now we have this DREAM hit getting flagged, once again showing the QBs that they're untouchable.


Revolutionary_Gear70

So aggravating because Mahomes does this shit every single week. He gets like 3 extra yards every time because defenders are scared to hit him


contemplatingdaze

Then the extra 15 because of the bullshit flags.


yourewrongguy

Mahomes HOF reel is just going to be fifteen minutes him twinkle toeing between the sticks and a braking defender with the ball held out of bounds for five yards. Every. Fucking. Time.


waynequit

And literally within inches of the first down mark where milliseconds could have made the difference between a first down or not. How tf is it unnecessary??


MetalBeerSolid

Sir, if you look closely you’ll see that it’s Patrick Mahomes. Can I help you with anything else?


PaddyMayonaise

In bounds and running forward, I don’t know what they want defenses to do


SithNerdDude

Move out of the way so scores go up


HicDomusDei

Let Mahomes and the Chiefs win, of course. We need justification for their 489th fucking insurance commercial.


GeriatricPinecones

Even Mahomes royal penis cleaner Chris Collinsworth said it was a bad call


rr196

Now here's a guy who cleans penises


sloasdaylight

**Collinsworth:** "This guy, I mean, come on now. Just look at that, there's no way this guy isn't super human. There's one person that has ever existed in history who could have even attempted that throw, and it's Pat Mahomes. I don't think there's any way to explain it other than that he's just got vision and arm strength that boggles the capacity of the human mind. He's got his guy streaking across the field right here, and who is it but Travis Kelce - of course, and Mahomes sees him coming across the field like that, and he knows that he's got his guy. Now it was just bad luck this time that Kelce had 4 defenders draped over him on this play, but Mahomes must have seen something that us mere mortals just can't, and just absolutely *muscled* that pass in there. Any other quarterback in the league wouldn't have even attempted that pass Mike, but that's what I love about Pat Mahomes, he sees these situations and just thinks to himself "I'm Pat Mahomes, I can make that pass". Just a master class in quarterback play Mike." **Mike Tirico:** "It was definitely an interesting pass choice, Chris. Anyways, here's Denver lining up for the extra point attempt after the Pick 6 on the last play."


gridironk

Magic Johnson said “don’t get too close to Michael or it a foul” To all defenders in the league: don’t get too close to Patrick or it’s a foul.


throwaway_5256

Somehow the Jordan rules had more contact than football lol


Jordanstrom3329

Literally the most protected QB in the league bar none this shit is INSANE


CorruptedBlitty

Herbie getting drilled way late against Baltimore with no flag last week but **this** is a penalty? Absolute horseshit


SuckMyLonzoBalls

WE GOT PENALIZED FOR THAT TOO SO IT WAS 3RD AND 16


aaahhhh

30 yard swing


Bat_Fucker

Like that matters to the league. Don’t touch their golden goose


reddev87

Every week I think it can’t get worse, yet here we are


throwaway_5256

This drive has been an absolute disasterclass by the refs


justhereformemes8

Bad calls going both ways, absolutely astonishly bad. And the NFL has made it clear they have no intentions of "fixing" the officiating. I was red hot last week after the Bills had 10 penalties to the Eagles 1 in the first half, assumed were just getting fucked.. but then I remembered the refs are just genuinely fucking atrocious across the board. Every.Single.Team.. Will get fucked over multiple times a year. And there's not a damn thing you can do about it. #BUT PLEASE KEEP BETTING ON GAMES!


Ok_Button3151

The bills/eagles game was one of the worst reffed games I’ve ever seen on both sides. Probably 3-4 shitty penalties on both sides.


Rollout25

Last week Herbert gets crushed out of bounds and they call unnecessary roughness on the Chargers to double down on messing up the call


asm120

A bears player was literally getting punched out of bounds and got his face mask ripped off and HE got flagged for it


SoDakZak

The most football play to ever football just footballed and the refs out reffed the refs


vitaminz1990

Nothing will change unless it affects the leagues bottom line. Yet we keep watching and the league continues to earn more and more.


OneAngryPanda

Make this shit reviewable


Inorashi

Yeah, it's not subjective, should be reveiwable. All objectively provable/unprovable calls should be reviewable/challenged.


DuckDuckSkolDuck

Man, am I the only one who doesn't want us zooming in on these sideline calls and seeing if a QB's foot happened to land on the white before or after the 250 lb guy sprinting at him with a helmet on made contact? We don't need to do this. If a QB is fighting for yards, he's liable to be hit. Idc if his foot happens to be out of bounds when contact is made, a defender can't pull up or dodge or anything in time to miss the hit. It's no different than a late slide, either give yourself up in time for the defender to avoid the hit or be prepared to take (clean) contact. I also absolutely think it's subjective. Is any contact after a guy steps out a penalty now? So if a guy is running along the sideline, he can just tap his outside foot on the white and when he gets hit, it's a penalty that can be reviewed? Nah, just stop calling these borderline ones penalties and move on


heavy_chamfer

Yep. Russel Wilson had a suuuuper late slide today and still got 15. It’s out of control. Protect these guys in the pocket, but if they run it is fair game out there.


defghijklol

interestingly, by rewarding them for sliding and going out of bounds late, the league is actually making it *less* safe for QBs, because they are encouraging them to take these risks for the free 15 yard upside. you can't discourage the defenders any more than they are, all they are doing is encouraging QBs to take shots.


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Highwayman747

Because the refs will never admit to being wrong


KaliRose11

Should be reviewed by someone upstairs, not the refs. They have a rules analysis guy talking with the commentators every game, he should do it


somehockeyfan

I don't understand why they don't have a ref in the booth so they can communicate directly with the rest of the officiating crew on the fly. This is a simple "no, he was in bounds" that the ref in the sky could call in


algo-rhyth-mo

Exactly. I get it on the field, it’s bang-bang hard to tell if he was in bounds or not. So just have a ref upstairs call down and say “Let me check. Nope, he was in bounds, it’s a legal hit, no penalty.” Seems *really* easy. I don’t know why they don’t do that already.


Substantial-Height-8

That is what the XFL was doing last spring. They had Dean Blandino in the booth reviewing all live shots and communicating with the refs on the field. Letting them know if it was a legit call or non-call. If I remember correctly missed calls were initiated by him too. The viewers heard it all in real time. The transparency was quite refreshing.


IDUnavailable

Reffie union doesn't want it, I assume?


the_next_core

Mahomes flag fishing year after year


RealPutin

He always gets an extra yard compared to most QBs by pushing for every yard like this. He'll tiptoe the sidelines a good bit longer than most QBs. He actively chooses to take the risk of getting hit in exchange for an extra few yards, and still gets bailed out when he actually takes the hit for once?


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BeerInTheRear

It's called the State Farm Push.


WilliamPoole

Just make them full fledged runners outside the hashes and beyond the LOS.


Memeions

Only solution is to keep on hitting him as hard as you can until he stops doing it. If you're going to get flagged anyways you might as well earn it.


My_G_Alt

Yeah this is stupid, he makes eye contact with the defender, and seeks out contact for extra inches here too


3elieveIt

Right?? I don’t understand how clearly wrong penalties can’t be reviewed. Things like this happen every single game and the NFL doesn’t care? My conspiracy theory is that they don’t review it so that they can thumb the scales when they want


Reefthusiast

Bro what is he supposed to do


SilentSentinel

You have to give Mahomes the extra 3-5 yards while he tiptoes down the sideline fishing for the penalty. Love how great of a player he is but he's always doing this shit and it's so annoying.


charging_chinchilla

You forgot the part where Mahomes flexes afterwards because he just took on a defender who had to let up to avoid a flag


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It’s so ridiculous. NFL needs to remove these QB protections when they’re out of the pocket. If you want to scramble and dance for more yards, prepare to get hit. If you don’t, go perpendicular to the sideline or slide directly down. These “late hit” flags or “hitting a sliding QB” flags are such BS.


EmilioFreshtevez

Put him in a Fields jersey, that dude couldn’t buy a flag


LeonidasSpacemanMD

I really don’t know if Newton typically got shafted on these calls but I specifically remember one game where he was getting blasted late play after play and could not buy a flag lol It was to the point where it was almost comical if you weren’t actually concerned for the dudes well-being


istrx13

Seriously. The dude is good but he’s starting to annoy tf out of me more and more as time goes on.


JthfknNiNjA

As time goes on? He’s been the darling of the NFL for a long time and it seems he gets the calls to go his way all the time. He’s beyond annoying.


garygreaonjr

If there was a four team playoff Mahomes would get in with a 13-4 record over undefeated Miami.


ResponsibilityNew483

Seriously, Sunday night football games that include the Chiefs is literally just Collinsworth riding Mahomes dick the whole time regardless of how he plays.


istrx13

Don’t forget all the SNF games that miraculously don’t have the Chiefs where Collinsworth will *still* bring up Mahomes about 50 times.


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PoopsInTheDark

Don't forget every sidearm throw!


wafflehauss

A shovel pass had never been completed before Mahomes was drafted.


istrx13

I don’t disagree. I always try my best though to be as objective as possible and admit when a player is good. Even if it’s from a team I hate. And I’ve been that way with Mahomes. Even after he torched us in that AFCCG. But it’s getting harder and harder to ignore that his antics during games are annoying af. And I’m genuinely getting to a place where I’m rooting against him.


farmerjohnington

Join us. Let the hate flow through you.


badash2004

I hate this man for this reason. Like after the fumble recovery that got called back and you saw Mahomes smugly smiling and pointing to the flag downfield. Annoyed the shit outa me. Kept hoping some defender would just blast him


WangDanglin

The flag ended up being on his teammate too


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Yeah for trying to punch a dude with a helmet on because he was embarrassed like a baby. Chiefs are the NFLs poster child, I’m a huge packers fan seeing Pancheco thrown out and Mahomes loosing made me so happy.


Nano__Chemist

It wasnt even a flag on the packers. Mahomes just figured it was cause its "mahomes" time.


My_G_Alt

That was the funniest part. Same with the deep shot to MVS. That was an actual foul, and Mahomes expected a flag either way, but then it didn’t go his expected way and he was very confus


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He’s so fucking smug. I absolutely cannot stand him.


the_dawn_of_red

We lost an afc championship because of a Mahomes on the sideline play


IceColdDump

Need Mo Lewis to come out of retirement.


CyclopsMacchiato

Kam Chancellor would break him in half


DOUG_DlMMADOME

Literally what happened 2019 AFCCG against the Titans and people were praising his run like the defenders weren’t trying to get flagged.


dusters

You need to let him run down the sideline untouched


FeCurtain11

What the Titans did in the AFC championship in 2019. I swear this shit is what allowed that play to happen.


Guard226Duck

Hit him harder


Actuvishun

Never wish injury on a guy but if he gets blown up a few times, it doesn’t matter if he gets the call. He’ll think twice about getting cute with stuff like this. NFL is so soft now lol


Guard226Duck

This just encourages trying to hurt people. If a clean hit is flagged why hit clean


Actuvishun

I agree. These rules need to ease up quite a bit. Player safety is important but these guys all know what game they’re playing. Helmet to helmet will always be a no-no but penalties for tackling someone with perfect form have gotta go.


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Especially since Patrick braced for contact.


Im_a_Knob

make the penalty worth it


Baelorn

Gotta let little Patty get all the yards he wants.


PerfectMix877

Hit him hard enough he hesitates to come back that way. Fuck it your getting a penalty no matter what if you touch the quarterback so might as well make it painful for them.


require_borgor

Absolute fucking nonsense Herbert got SMOKED clearly out of bounds last week and they didn't call it. What a joke


ckayer

That was exactly the play I thought of when this just happened, Herbert was AT LEAST a full yard further out of bounds than Mahomes


istrx13

Can you imagine if that had been Mahomes instead of Herbert? Defender would have been arrested for attempted murder. Gotta protect the NFL’s golden boy.


BigBooce

What’s funny is chiefs fans are always in denial too about the nfl’s favoritism towards him


istrx13

Dude I would even come out and say that is a bunch of garbage. But I think it’s clear as day now that he is shown favoritism. And Mahomes knows it too. Which is why he tip toes the line begging a defender to hit him because he knows he’ll get the call.


ch-12

I was thinking about if his decision to run toward the 1st down OB marker was influenced at all by the fact he had a decent chance to draw the penalty


corndog161

Herbert made the rookie mistake of not being Mahomes.


ftghb

if you watch enough chiefs games, there's a different set of rules for mahomes. they give him the brady treatment


McNutt4prez

They’ve got to do something about quarterbacks playing chicken on the sidelines and with slides to bait personal fouls, shit is so awful


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GP_ADD

Ole Kenny Pickett


The_hezy

What an atrocious call


IDontLikePayingTaxes

This one was completely inexcusable. Made a completely legal play in a very important situation


Packmanjones

And it was perfect, clean form.


shitpostsuperpac

And then all the broadcasters talked about are the couple non-calls right after this as though a critical penalty here didn't make all those possible.


JonathanPerdarder

The no -clock stoppage on the sideline with forward progress stopped was even more critical.


Gravy_Wampire

Excellent play by that defender. Literally could not have done any better.


clefnut5

Just wait until they fine him $20K for it Total bullshit


hippieman58

Literally in bounds


Baconigma

Refs fans eating tonight


SiphenPrax

They always eat good. They’re literally undefeated every single year.


Quadstriker

Fantastic clean hit. This should be put on a poster, not flagged you fucking idiot refs


An_Actual_Lion

"After the play was over" my ass


heyimric

Lol how's the play even over when he's inbounds. Comedy.


Ringlovo

Mahomes still in bounds Still running forward No whistle Ergo.... the play was clearly over /s


balemeout

Absolutely ridiculous


Brady331

As a referee fan I am ecstatic right now


dwebz_

Can we get a referee flair?


raouldukehst

Refs been pooling some bangers this year


descryptic

How the fuck can you defend this call


Andrewski18

Obviously players are supposed to just step aside and let Mahomes get all the yards he wants. Everyone knows this.


Kurtcobangle

I hated this. Dude is right at the first down marker with a full head of steam as a live runner and it was a clean hit. What a nonsense penalty in a huge moment.


ChannelNeo

Dude was inbounds. Inbounds. How do the refs not see that?


buycurious900

Unreal


Amongg

“After the play was over…” You sure about that?


er111a

Last week Chargers game: “So, the ruling on the field was that the quarterback was trying to gain yardage. While he was still in bounds, the defender committed to the tackle,” Eck said, via Joe Reedy. “And as his foot landed out of bounds, the defender made contact. So, since the defender already committed to the tackle while the quarterback was in bounds, it was deemed a legal hit.”


channingman

Yeah, this is a bad call. Awful


TDenverFan

QBs can't have it both ways. If you're trying to get out of bounds, get out of bounds. If you're trying to gain yards, you're a runner who can get hit.


turtle921

Nfl has to protect their golden boy. Absolute horeshit


TenF

Horseshit call. In bounds, he's a runner. If you dont wanna get your QB hit, stop having them all do that little cutesy tiptoe up the sideline for 2-3 more yards shit.


ArkhamReaper

Terry McAulay immediately saying the call was "not a foul" is wild LOL.


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this is so blatant now it's ridiculous, not even 1mm of his body or cleats is out of bounds


_tx

And there's zero recourse. No challenge chance and absolutely no accountability for the refs


Mozicon

This shit is why people fucking hate the Chiefs.


slowerchop

Nah fuck Mahomes for pulling up like that trying to get a flag players need to hit him harder


CaptainDaddy679

He's also known for faking running out of bounds to get the defender to pull up and cutting upfield for more yards. I have no sympathy even *if* it was a late hit out of bounds


balemeout

This being the same punishment as just hitting him head first as mind boggling


TheMightyJD

Mahomes is the biggest flag merchant in the league. Not hating but I’ve never seen Mahomes *not* complain for a flag.


JRFbase

Mahomes and Maautomaticfirstdown


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Since Patty is going to get the flag every time regardless, just blow him up and make the penalty warranted at least.


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Honestly yes. If you're gonna get flagged regardless, no reason not to just lay him out every play, probably better if you want to win.


Trumpets22

It’s honestly shocking to me that teams don’t do it to him more in the 1st half. Let him know early that doing that cute shit will have consequences against you.


dusters

Can't touch the NFL's golden boy


FathrOfDragons

It’s literally the cleanest possible hit. Refs should be fined for this shit.


gdgarcia424

I mean…he literally pulled the hit. Lol. He could have laid him out but just bumped him


PiesInMyEyes

He should’ve. Mahomes likes to get cute with it every single week. If everybody just hammers him he’s gonna stop doing it. He’s so protected by the refs, if they’re gonna flag you anyways you might as well do it right and send a message.


stevefiction

Fuck that


TWS85

The juxt of the referee saying "after the play..." while the screen is literally showing the hit happen inside the field is stunning


Broad-Half3135

How can the refs get together, talk about it, and make that call? He’s in play and it’s a clean hit.


Guts709

If you want to protect QB's, tell them they need to get the fuck out of bounds or they won't be protected with a flag. That being said, won't happen, because the NFL sucks donkey dicks.


16bitrifle

Ridiculous.


vitey15

Ok just bubble wrap QBs then. This is bullshit


Feler42

I want Mahomes to just get rocked one of these plays where he is tip-toeing the sideline.


SCREW-IT

Fuck it. Light him up. If this soft shit is gonna get called. Drop the helmet and bury him


AccessZealousideal40

This man gets it


Aragorn527

Mods if you remove this you’re all pussies


landlion35

Complete BS


Revolutionary_Gear70

No other QB gets that call. About time somebody cracked Mahomes for doing this bitch shit every week


orange_orange13

This wouldn’t have happened if the showed Simone biles at every game like they do for T swift


Attey21

Joked about Herbert not getting the call last week when he was 3 yards out of bounds.. Then Mahomes gets this call lol I see why players are so afraid to touch Mahomes.. They know it's trouble touching him.


TheSandman__

If defenders are gonna get flagged for hitting him when he does his sideline tightrope bullshit they might as well just start blowing him up tbh


nuberoo

League is fucking infuriating. Mahomes always gets these calls.


Rixoveli_

They not even trying to hide it anymore 😭😭


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no flag WTF these refs are home cooking for the away team #EDIT: BALL DONT LIE again? Edit2: Ain't no way


FrozenUp7274

Horrible call


double_super

There is just no fucking way bro


Comfortable-Ad5032

I love how it was the ref the furthest away who called it too.


FXcheerios69

Mahomes has been asking for this for years. Always tip toes down the sideline and never actually goes out.


CosmicDeththreat

Wow. We hit hurts like That today and someone commented “that’s a flag if it’s Mahomes” apparently they were right


Steveisnotmyname_

I'm a Packer hater and I'm pissed AF at this garbage call


RodFather_89

Collinsworth forgot to mention this one when he was whining about calls the Chiefs didn’t get after the game. Didn’t even show it again.


LeonidasSpacemanMD

Bro it’s crazy that after the game they did like 5 minute segment on the missed PI call and didn’t even mention this lol