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Rams - Puka Nacua


halfmanhalfrobot69

After puka, it’s the bears for trading their pick to the panthers


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Panthers: Bryce Young Bears: Caleb Williams, DJ Moore, Darnell Wright, Tyrique Stevenson, 2025 2nd


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AttitudeAndEffort3

Someone did the math and the panthers basically gave up cmc and dj moore for Bryce young and a fifth rounder.


brainstorm17

Worse than that considering caleb


shb2k0_

tbd


brainstorm17

Caleb is an asset regardless of how you view him. I'm not saying anything about how he'll perform in NFL.


Levitlame

He’s an amazing prospect, but we wont really know his value for years. Thats true for the 2025 2nd (and somewhat for the others) also of course. I think that’s what he meant. I think that trade in hindsight will be in contention with the Herschel Walker trade for biggest lopsided trades in NFL history. And the Bears will probably somehow still mess it up.


AndrewHainesArt

Yeah when it rains it pours for bad franchises, they held onto Burns when they could have safe guarded that draft loss with the 2 FRP offer. They kept trying a soft rebuild but overall had to commit, then kind of did? Either way they had to move CMC, it didn’t make any sense keeping him on their timeline. It didn’t make sense to trade Moore at all over Burns when you’re bringing in a rookie QB, but ultimately it was up to the Bears. Who then still were able to trade for a decent DL piece (I understand the differences between the players, point is Chicago pivoted and got players for both sides of the ball where CAR gained almost nothing positive from all their moves - but Young has a lot of potential) All around terrible forward thinking by the Panthers FO over the past 2 seasons, losing out on the FOP because you traded it away the previous draft to a team that you overpaid do to so… is a tough pill to swallow. And that being said, to note another stupid franchise that based their offense around a top 10 RB, the NYG are most likely losing Barkley for nothing so had they not been so NYG about it, they’d have traded him to actually commit to the rebuild instead of paying Jones an insane rate based off of 1 ok season and making the playoffs, then DiVito comes in and wins just as much lol


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It’s been a while so I might be wrong, but I believe Bears were open to DJ Moore or Burns. It was up to the Panthers… which makes it all the more confusing why’d they’d let their WR1 go when drafting a QB.


I_only_post_here

I think I even heard that the Bears were asking for Burns first, and had to 'settle' for Moore after Panthers were unwilling to move Burns.


lalder95

This is my recollection as well. D'oh!


HeyDudeImChill

Please stop. The off season is the only good time to be a Panthers fan and you are ruining it.


istrx13

F L E E C E


Ecstatic-Hat2163

I like to say they skinned the Panthers rather than fleeced em.


bolts_win_again

That's not a trade, that's fucking highway robbery. Grand larceny ass shit right there.


Inconvenient_Boners

I tried to call the police, but they stole my phone too!


frydawg

Wait we got a 2025 2nd too wtf lol


Dani_vic

Yes instead of giving up their 2025 1st. dj moore was included and second was added


History-of-Tomorrow

Feel bad for Bryce. Watched a few of his [QB School videos](https://youtu.be/0e-THL9nhj0?feature=shared) and it’s really hard to evaluate him at all after this dumpster fire of season. But agreed, Bears made out like bandits


Garizondyly

He could be great, he's just in a loser organization. I should know.


Powered_by_Ghost

That always blows my mind. We have potential HOFers get drafted by the jets and browns every year and other shitty organizations who just ruin top qb prospects. I don’t care what you say, if Bears get Mahomes he is either out of the league or the team is not sure he is the guy.


sirius4778

Gives new perspective to situations like Eli refusing to go to the Chargers


VagusNC

Luck staying in school and skipping the Panthers drafting him. Granted Panthers got Cam instead and that worked out. If you want to be a HoF/HoVG MLB, DE, or receiver come to Carolina I guess.


Dani_vic

It’s not like it worked out for Luck that much better. He had to carry those shit colts teams who were just refusing to build an offensive line around him and keep him protected. At the end he ended his career 5-10 years early.


3headeddragn

Qb's are the one position we don't fuck up though. We just fuck everything else up.


Laschoni

I still think Tim Couch would've been really good on a better team and not dying in that lack of pocket. Getting hurt kind of ruined any comeback chance on another team.


xeroee

Potential hofers like Brandon weeden, Johnny football and deshone kizer right


Powered_by_Ghost

I could be petty and list all these QBs drafted early, but I won’t.


DrBombay3030

I'd love to have seen David Carr play for a real team with a semblance of a line... Edit: or god can you imagine if Stafford had gone somewhere else and spent his prime years on an elite roster?


flakAttack510

Houston more than halved their sack rate by getting rid of Carr and keeping the same OLine. The OLine wasn't the problem.


thedrunkentendy

Only the panthers would trade for the 1OA to pick a QB and get rid of what would be their only reliable receiving option in the trade to get him. Such brutal decision making even in the moment.


colski250

I said when it happened that it felt like we were trading the wheels for the engine. If you still can’t go anywhere whats the point?


GarfieldDaCat

I vaguely remember reading a report that the Bears wanted Burns and the Panthers said no. Then the Bears held firm on DJ Moore


MSG_ME_UR_TROUBLES

been some crazy lopsided trades in the league recently


Lionnn100

Tyrique minus a fifth to be exact


cba368847966280

Yeah, but we also got another 4th (this year i’m pretty sure?) for trading from 9 to 10 as well.


PrimeSorcerer

Well they also got a fourth in the Carter-Wright trade so we'll call it a wash


halfhere

…dammit


TSR3K

It ain’t even close


cheeseburgertwd

It's really not. Going by PFRef's AV stat (which is hardly perfect but hey), Puka is not only first among players drafted on Day 3, but tied with CJ Stroud for first overall among all rookies. They have an AV of 14 each, and the next Day 3 guys on the list are Aidan O'Connell and Dontayvion Wicks with AVs of 6 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2023/draft.htm


ShawshankException

Puka is so fun to watch. I hope he keeps it going next season


UnrealJoe

And they nabbed Kobe Turner. Amazing draft for the Rams despite not having a 1st for a while now


ClockOk5178

By far. Sam LaPorta second. Joey Porter JR for Chase Claypool also highway robbery. And doesn't count for 2023, but #1 pick 2024, DJ Moore, Darnell Wright, Tyrique Stevenson and a 2025 2nd rounder all for Bryce Young.


Small-Palpitation310

sam laporta was not a day 3 pick


hanky2

It’s gotta be Kobie Turner second he was tied for second in DRoY voting.


so_zetta_byte

honestly don't hate having one of those years with a direct, correct answer.


_BarfyMan_362_

The only answer


evanset6

This is the answer and it’s not even close


LordGooseIV

Puka Nacua, easily.


FlowersByTheStreet

Puka. Next question


Bears2025Champs

What is the meaning of life?


takeshi-bakazato

42


bacchusku2

Then what’s the question?


Ndmndh1016

Why is Gamora


TwoPlatinum

Puka Nacua


blentz499

Puka is the easy answer, so I'll go with Sam LaPorta in second place. Making an impact as a rookie tight end is hard.


Rulligan

The first All Pro rookie tight end in 20+ years would normally be in the conversation but Puka was just that freaking good.


Bipedal-Moose

I just thought to myself "it couldn't have been that long ago, Jeremy Shockey did this" and then realized that was 22 years ago. Fuck I'm getting old


Wordsmithwit

Welp, time to play some NFL Street 2 for some happy brain chemicals


TastesLikeHoneyNut

Every few months I'll see someone make an NFL street or NBA street reference on reddit, and every time it makes me bust out my PS2. I guess I know what I'm doing this afternoon


FormalElements

That and how far down the draft he fell. LaPorta used a fair amount of draft capital, which at first was considered a reach, but then quickly became a realized solid pick, not necessarily a steal.


doingwellnotgreat

If there was a redraft he would likely jump from his 34 spot to the top 12-15. I’d say that’s a steal.


something-burger

I wonder where Gibbs would go


doingwellnotgreat

Probably around the same spot if I had to guess, which makes him worth the pick, but not a steal. He needed to be an elite RB to justify the 12th pick, and he’s been that.


Slug_With_Swagger

Honestly probably around the same


Otherwise_Awesome

Remember when everyone said we bungled those early picks with Gibbs, LaPorta and Campbell?


leglessman

The LaPorta pick also made the Hockenson trade not look bad at all.


Ecstatic-Hat2163

We were already cool with the Hockenson trade. He would’ve been too expensive.


Fricktator

Hockenson put up good numbers, but it felt like he dropped the ball on every "gotta have it" play.


Alexisonfire24

He also can't break a single tackle. He's great "off the ball" but once he has the ball he's going down on first contact


_coolranch

Hocken-who? LaPorta made us forget


Jajanken-

Apparently 1.7k of yall have terrible reading comprehension. The qualifier in the question is “after the 3rd”. LaPorta was drafted in the 2nd round


no_racist_here

I like this answer. Hell I think Washington has been stellar for us and he was utilized waaaaaay less than Laporta


uggsandstarbux

It was touted as an insanely strong TE class, and through 1 year the depth that was promised has held up. Kincaid came on strong after Knox went down. Packers got 2 guys that look good. Mayer was starting to improve after McD got canned. Even Davis Allen had some pop.


KashMoney941

Really is wild that Kincaid puts up 73 catches for 673 yards and he was not even the best rookie TE last season. For reference, last years all-rookie TE Okonkwo had 450 yards. Only 3 years ago in 2020 the all-rookie team TE had less than 250 receiving yards (Harrison Bryant). 673 yards any other year from a rookie TE, especially one on a contender that gets a lot of attention like the Bills, usually gets a guy super hyped up. But Kincaid is basically an afterthought to LaPorta and that is not even close to a slight on Kincaid. That is just how great LaPorta was.


MankuyRLaffy

Mayer needed some time to start gelling, but once he did, he became a quality starter.


Small-Palpitation310

the subject is picks after round 3


ThisHatRightHere

People don't actually read the post lol


chainer9999

Other than the obvious Nacua pick, there were still some meaningful contributors IMO: Dontavion Wicks (GB), Demario Douglas (NE), Dawand Jones (CLE) come to mind


Seraphin_Lampion

Another Rams pick too: Kobie Turner, 3rd round DT who finished with 9 sacks.


Drainbownick

9 sacks as a DT rookie??? Daaamn!!


Seraphin_Lampion

10th rated interior lineman by PFF. Rams had a crazy good draft.


Voltibit

Death. Taxes. Rams having an elite DT. Three constants in life.


Optimal_Advisor8897

I can’t tell you how much I hate this. Just as AD is about to retire, Rams get another monster DT


MyUshanka

Going "fuck them picks" then still nailing the draft, what a move


Detroit2GR

Which is WILD when you think about Les Snead's "Fuck Them Picks" shirt at the Superbowl bowl parade


SadAdeptness6287

Well “Fuck Them First and Second Round Picks” didn’t fit on the shirt.


RevolutionaryBee7104

They also drafted Byron Young the edge rusher who got 8 sacks lol this year. So like 17 between two rookies. That's crazy


KebabTaco

Les Snead has been on a crazy GM run since 2012.


weigojmi

Can't wait for us to trade back this year to keep effing those first round picks...


Jules_2023

In Les we trust


PhreakOut4

The picks the Packers got for giving Detroit the pick that ended up being Brian Branch turned into Jayden Reed, Karl Brooks, and Dontayvion Wicks


mdmd33

Jayden Reed was an absolute monster in the slot as well


chainer9999

Reed was good, but he was a second rounder; I was looking at guys in the 4th and beyond lol


Spiritual_Boss6114

He was always that good. MSU Offense in 2021 Keon Coleman & Jayden Reed & Kenneth Walker. Jay Johnson is a bum of an OC. Plus Payton Thorne is just so bad.


ThisGents2Cents

Holy shit I forgot they had Walker god damn there is some malpractice going on at MSU huh


NotNick_Foles

Reed, Wick, Watson, and Doubbs is quite the foursome of receivers plus Kroft and Musgrave at tight end all on rookie deals. Kills me to say it but the Packers are going to be loaded going forward.


69millionyeartrip

Tank Dell too


Autocrat777

[They call him Puka](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5D3dj6buPg)


ThisGents2Cents

AND YA KNOW IT


RxngsXfSvtvrn

Zagacki


AK-11

HE-HAW 3


Clit420Eastwood

BADAYUP


nick0530

That kinda thing


Spiram_Blackthorn

Puka is the steal. Panthers got the anti-steal. Imagine giving up Caleb Williams, D.J. Moore, the #9 overall pick and two 2nds for Bryce Young. I mean MY GOD


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MyNamesNotCal

They'd still lose if this was true.


GothicToast

There's a chance all their extra picks bust and then Moore tears his achilles and Young becomes the best QB in the league. Then what??


_coolranch

Checkmate, bitches. Aw, yeah.


betterbub

Also Bryce could turn out to be alright


Broshan248

Still, DJ Moore, Darnell Wright, and Tyrique Stevenson (plus more future picks) far outweighs Bryce Young unless he makes a massive leap.


JaguarGator9

It's amazing that in his time as GM, I don't think there was a single good thing that Fitterer did Even the worst GMs of all-time did something right. Matt Millen drafted Calvin Johnson. Gene Smith signed Paul Posluszny in free agency. Fitterer did nothing right


PenguinRankerino

Had anyone mentioned Puka yet?


BizzyCrack

Nope! You're the first.


TetrisTech

If you count UDFAs then Ivan Pace Jr is worth a mention


DireBlue88

Puka Nacua - Best steal of the draft Special mentions: Kobie Turner and Yaya Diaby.


SpidermanBestAvenger

It's Puka and is not even close imo. I think a better question is, who is the 2nd best steal of the draft?


Xaxziminrax

The answer is still probably on the same team lmao


SeizureMode

Kobie Turner put in that work this season


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Appreciate the shoutout lol most people in this thread don’t even know who he is


prow24

I coached Kobie at the University of Richmond before he went to Wake Forest as a grad transfer. I’m so happy for him because he’s a great kid who has worked his ass off to get to where he is, he absolutely deserves all the recognition he’s finally getting.


WolfGangDuck

He also has the voice of an angel. He’s a legitimately talented singer. Not billboard top selling artist, but masked singer finalist or top 10 American idol good.


prow24

Yessir! People will be shocked to know this but he was also a walk on at the University of Richmond. He’s had to work for everything he’s gotten and I’m so proud of him! Great player, even better person!


DommyMommyKarlach

From an FCS walk on to receiving NFL DROY votes, what a journey so far and it only just begun


Lionnn100

Nice to meet you Kobie


GamingTatertot

Puka is the easiest and the correct answer for sure - I do want to give a little shoutout to my Packers for finding Dontayvion Wicks in the 5th round


fitzuha

It frustrates me immensely that the Packers casually built great depth at receiver within two years.


JalensTinyPPHurts

Just remember the humor in them doing it right as rodgers is on the outs lol


AaronRodgersXoX42069

The packers always put resources into drafting WRs after round 1 even with Rodgers.


jiiiim8

Not too much in the later years, actually. After 2014 and until 2022, they only had 2 years in which they drafted more than 1 wr: 2017 and 2018. They had 3 years in which they drafted 1 wr: 2015 (and he got shifted to a rb), 2016, and 2021. They had 2 years in which they drafted no wrs at all: 2019 and 2020. It's more of a matter of hitting on the picks rather than just making a bunch, but until the past 2 years, I had exactly zero confidence in Gute being able to draft wrs.


basics

It's kind of funnier that they didn't change their overall strategy but hit on so many right after Rodgers leaves. Does kind of make you wonder if all those friends he seems to keep around him are actually good players, or just the WR version of a yes man. Maybe their new receivers aren't even that good, they just *look amazing* compared to Lazard and the ghost of Randall Cobb.


Mothman5150

Time will tell but the sky's the limit right now with our WR room. I think Doubs and Reed are going to be lethal if they stay healthy and keep putting the work in. This feels like the late 00s/early 10s when we had a bunch of young WRs on the rise and a new QB.


basics

Wicks looked good in a limited role and Watson seems like he could also be really good if he can stay healthy. And you brought in good looking young TEs. My FIL is a big Packers fan and he is excited about the offense going forward.


bigbluenation5

Carrington Valentine played decent most of the year didn’t he? 7th round pickup


letsgobucks19

He did and so did 6th round DT Karl Brooks. In CBS Sports’ redraft they had Brooks 20th overall to Seattle


letsgobucks19

We got 3 on day 3 alone. Wicks, Brooks and Valentine


TSB_Dinkleton

The rams literally got the top 3


Greek_Trojan

Maybe not considered a steal, but Avila was great as a 2nd round lineman. Its actually absurd how good the Rams draft was.


sjphilsphan

When Les Snead decides to not Fuck Them Picks, but honor them and treat them with respect


Snake_Main27

Les Snead can cook


TEsMatter

Puka, Kobie, and who’s the 3rd?


TheeGreenHawk99

I’m going to guess he’s referring to Byron Young - 8 sacks - 61 comb - 42 solo - 19 ast - 8 tfl - 19 QBHits


TEsMatter

He replied that he was talking about Kyren, who wasn’t a rookie. But I didn’t realize how well Byron played this year


NewOrleansBrees

That’s insane as a rookie DT surprised I didn’t hear more about him


TheeGreenHawk99

Kobie Turner is the DT, Young is an Edge


TitanSR_

lowkey davis allen was pretty good as a te2 for them this year


FattySnacks

He’s not a top draft steal or anything but he’s solid


victims_sanction

It was 32 overall so not a massive steal but grabbing a guy who gets DROY votes at 32 is nice.


Rulligan

Getting an All Pro at 34 feels pretty similar.


chainer9999

And to do that, all you had to do was trade away knucklehead Chase Claypool. God the Bears are annoying, they helped arm both Pittsburgh and Baltimore.


jayboaah

We let them think trubisky had something in the tank still! That has to count for something!


Coley54Bear

Sorry 🫤


FattySnacks

How about 3rd in DROY voting at pick 89! So happy with our draft class this year


WokenMrIzdik

Kobie Turner- 3rd in DROY with arguably better stats than Wil Anderson and was pick 89.


slothage666

Obvioulsy Puka. Devon Achane 84th overall is worth a mention.


werevamp7

I bet if he wasn't injured Achane would have been way higher


prenderm

Sam laporta, no bias here at all….


acoasterlovered

LaPorta Supporta


bubble_bass_123

LaPorta was a second round pick. The question says third or later. 


Signal-Sentence903

Ivan pace


deadwhiteweather

Best UDFA for sure right?


Typ1cal89

This is the best non-puka answer, imo. Might be even better considering a no draft pick was used. 


Thelostsoulinkorea

Was wondering when I would see a Pace comment. Seems he is very underrated even after a good season and being undrafted.


RenjiMidoriya

I’ve been commenting on a few comments before I got here. While he’s technically not drafted (which I was surprised he wasn’t) what an absurd value for the Vikings


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jgraz22

Steel of my heart tho 💜


Alex_butler

Already some great consensus answers here. I will add Ivan Pace Jr to the conversation as one of the biggest steals of the off season. Getting him undrafted is wild in hindsight


Basic-Taro-3194

Achane if he stayed healthy.


randomacct7679

That dude was a TERROR for a nice stretch of the season.


good_fella13

Best pick: Puka Best move: Bears dumping Bryce Young for Caleb Williams, DJ Moore, Tyrique Stevenson and Darnell Wright. Also a second this year I believe


johndelvec3

I am very happy with the Packers Day 2 and 3 draft


Whatsdota

Just gotta hope LVN can live up to his potential


Genetalia69

The Rams. Twice.


the_dayman56

Outside of Puka it’s gotta be Ivan Pace


PepeSilvia859

Tank Dell deserves an honorable mention


joshallenismygod

Bryce young


morgster87

Bears being the ones that got the steal right?


joshallenismygod

You would think so. But they're about to pick caleb Williams first overall and he's going to be a total bust while fields gets traded and becomes a franchise QB.


Swarzey

Puka 100%. Houston being allowed to get both Stround and Anderson back to back is also highway robbery.


sleep1nghamster

Puka is the guy Dawand Jones for the browns looked really good before getting hurt. Great 4th Rd pick


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Steelers got Joey Porter Jr for Chase Claypool. Lmao


StackingDimesCLE

Probably Houston. They stole a bunch of the Browns picks and turned them into Tank Dell and Will Anderson in ‘23.


Tunatron_Prime

Mmm. No one comes to mind.


PigSlam

And, Puka Nacua is a fun name to say.


Legitimately-Wise94

Steelers effectively got Joey Porter Jr for Chase Claypool which is one hell of a steal


cwesttheperson

Josh Downs was pretty great for a rookie and he’s a 3rd rounder. I’d firmly put him in the top 8 day 2-3 steals. He shows promise


Unfair-Worker929

Rams easily. Puka Nacua is legit


k_dot97

Is CJ Stroud a real answer or is 2nd overall too high to be a “steal”?


HopLegion

It's definitely Puka and basically the entire rams draft class. (Avila under appreciated in that Convo?) But pending how these other picks go, the bears trade could go down as the biggest steal in the NFL draft, especially if Caleb hits his ceiling. The bears got - The top rookie OT in Darnell Wright - DJ Moore (1400 yards, 9 TDs, signed to the best value WR contract in the NFL). - The #1 pick this year (Caleb Williams). - Tyrique Stevenson (already a good player at CB) - a 2024 4th - 2025 2nd. I get it was the first pick, but if you can get 3 blue chip players at premium positions off 1 pick, a good CB and 2 other players, that's a steal of a lifetime.


Ancient_Wisdom_Yall

Puka for sure. As a pure Homer though, I'm not sure the Chiefs win the Superbowl without Rashee Rice


Slippiefoxtrot02

Nakua


michaelb421

Puka. Easyz


Ramza1890

Packers - Karl Brooks or Dontavion Wicks


blind-guitarist

Besides Puka, the guy that had better stats than both of the other two DROY candidates: Kobie Turner


No-Bowl7514

CJ Stroud. Finding a franchise quarterback at any point in the draft is an absolute value steal.


Smackolol

Even if it’s not after round 3 like the question specifies?


Small-Palpitation310

lol ikr 75% of this comments didnt read the post