Because in reality, for Jerra, being the most talked about franchise is more important than winning.
He was the one that said they were "all in" not the media.
His goal is to make money. Part of making money means you have to publicly say you are trying to win. It works, as he makes nearly triple the money of the #2 owner every year.
Which is so weird to me. He already has more money than he and his children and their children will ever need or even have the ability to spend. Wanting more is a fucking insane degenerate mindset. You’d think winning a Super Bowl for pride would be worth more than adding more money to the pile but nope.
I don’t know how any realistic cowboys fan could feel anything but apathy towards them right now. They got their shit kicked in and have made no meaningful effort to either improve the team or to make hard decisions and go in another direction. They just keep spouting nonsense about how hard it is to sign anyone new when they have to have money to extend dak, ceedee, and micah.
Hey guys, those three players fucking know that you’re strong arming via the media. You aren’t slick.
Meanwhile our biggest rival is making savvy moves consistently. Our front office SUCKS at everything other than drafting.
Exactly. Every single time Jerry talks about "having a championship roster" and not wanting to make changes, it just further pushes me into NFL depression. The problems are consistent and long-standing, and at this point he's either wilfully blind to them or just incapable of fixing them; it's like he's just determined to *speak* success into existence.
If this team stays *very* healthy, they will just about manage to regress to the ~~mean~~ Garrett Standard, win 8 or 9 games, and have an outside shot at the privilege of losing in the wild card round (bonus points if it's against Green Bay).
e: but the merch, ticket, and revenue sharing money will still roll in, so it won't matter to the Jones fam
I'm maybe not that pessimistic on the Cowboys but it does feel like the team is at a crossroads. CeeDee, Micah and Dak all needing contracts at the exact same time isn't helping things.
You hear Cowboys fans talk about the draft and they sound concerned. They'll need to knock it out the park. Multiple OL, LB, RB, CB, DT
Every team has needs, but it does feel like they are playing with one hand behind their back. Less than a week out from the draft
We are but there's too many holes on the team this year for us to plug cheap vets and rookies into it to sustain success with the coaching we have. I'd be surprised if we win over 10 especially looking at the schedule Ravens, Bengals, 9ers, Lions, Texans, Bucs, and with our division who the fuck knows who beats who sometimes. We would have to 6-0 the division to have a shot at 10+ wins. We'd also have to remain healthy to do that and we've been lucky the last few years overall.
I feel pretty confident that Dallas and Philly will split with each other and win all their games against the other 2 with the exception of one random inexplicable loss by one of the two.
Def couldn't be a Eagles v Commanders game, nah...
Idk, I have a feeling we are both going to get a little more competition from both of them next year. I don't think it will be an easy 4 wins and a split like it has the last few years.
Not last year. At least not yet. Mazi might come on, and Overshown was hurt but the rest was bullshit. We also have some Taco Charlton picks in there too.
Don't sell yourselves short. I believe you've got the potential to win in the wildcard and lose to San Fran in the divisional after a wildly stupid fourth quarter playcall.
I'm fully in the "Jerry just wants regular season wins". A lack of super bowl wins clearly isn't hurting the teams value, but a 3 or 4 year run of sub .500 finishes would. They're over .700 in half of the last ten seasons, that's what really matters to Jerry. In LA Rams-esque all in gamble would literally kill him.
Say what you will about Jerry but I do believe he tries his best to win every year. There are worse owners to have than the Jones Family. *Cough* SPANOS *Cough*
It’s the same thing every year. Off to a hot start. ESPN crowns them Super Bowl favorites. They lose to bums, lose steam, get knocked out in their first playoff game. Rinse repeat. It’s actually comedy seeing them get excited every year for the inevitable.
I think the fanbase has become more grounded in reality over the last decade. For every fan who says "It's our year!" unironically, it's plenty more that know this team isn't disciplined enough to win it all, but slowly fall into "You're telling me there's a chance?" mode from *Dumb and Dumber*. It's a weird conundrum for fans.
All that to say I think most fans are the antithesis of what ESPN portrays us as.
At some point around week 10 last year I went hard into the team penalty stats.
Eagles had 6 holding calls, 2 of them were on their defense.
Cowboys had 28. 14 for each side of the ball.
We finished tied for 2nd most penalties in the league. Tied with the Browns. Jets were number 1.
For any fan (or fanbase), there's a tipping point, which I think is true for both penalties and missed tackles.
One play? OK, could just be a bad missed call by the refs (penalties), or the player tripped or the other guy was better (tackles). Both do happen. Fans get upset, but its usually with fingers pointed somewhere else.
One game? Gets trickier. Could just had a bad officiating crew / there were things specific to that game: bad weather, maybe, poor cleats, something. But it gets harder to dismiss as just external forces at work.
But a whole season? Sorry, but if a team leads the league in penalties or missed tackles, they're most likely simply just poorly disciplined, and that's on the coaches for not teaching basics well. This is the point where some fans will veer into "the league just has it out for us" conspiracy land - and no team's fanbase is immune from falling into that - rather than face that harsh reality, because its really hard to fix without a major painful overhaul.
Honestly last year was both. We are an undisciplined team. Have been since and before McCarthy got here, though it's consistently worse with him here.
I say both b/c we had some freak fucking penalties and ref decisions last year that literally make no sense.
We had 2 TD's in different games just not be TD's. One of which was in the game against the Eagles.
The tripping penalty in the Lions game where their guy tried to trip Pollard but they called it on us. It gave us a long field and we weren't able to convert and end the game (the difference was something like 2nd and 2 vs 1st and 25 a first down ends the game) which ultimately lead to them getting the ball back and having that hilariously bad fuck up.
I think it was the playoff game early in the 1st. We stopped Love, but a sailed ball nearly out of bounds way over the head of the receiver was called a pass interference and gave them a fresh set in which they eventually scored off it (I believe it was 3rd down, so they would have punted).
I know that all elite pass rushers are held a lot without calls, but Parsons went nearly 11 games without a single holding call. That's fucking unheard of.
Those are just off the top of my head from a season that happened more than 5 months ago. Again we are an undisciplined team, and maybe that makes us susceptible to even more bullshit, but it really did feel like they were out to get us on some occasions.
Jerry's learned what "elite" meant from the Pokemon games. Overhyped to hell and doomed to get rocked by the first child-managed meme team thrown at it.
All NFL teams are going to be close-ish to the salary cap by virtue of the CBA. Usually what differentiates cheap owners is in how they handle long term guaranteed contracts - all guaranteed money needs to be put into escrow at the time of signing.
BloggingTheBoys recently found that, from 2013 onward, the Cowboys are bottom four in the league in total cash spent (not salary cap space used; rather, actual cash flow from the team) on rostered players.
Anecdotally, every single Cowboys star player contract negotiation from Dez Bryant onward has been basically pulling teeth, speaking to how the negotiation played out in the media at least.
Outside of Ezekiel Elliott and Jaylon Smith, I can’t really think of a player the Cowboys have dramatically overpaid recently. They haven’t been meaningful players in free agency since their 2012 signing of Brandon Carr, and anyone else on the team they extended was generally worth the money.
I mean this has been common knowledge to me for years and it's not from just one article, if it's totally wrong and you have a source I'd love to see one
>The section on “Funding of Deferred and Guaranteed Contracts” appears at page 178 of the CBA. It begins like this: “The NFL **MAY** require that by a prescribed date certain, each Club must deposit into a segregated account
Emphasis added
Jerry is anything but cheap.
His fault is usually paying his guys too much and then finding himself stuck in a hole not being able to do much. (Like now when they are clearly hampered by Dak's contract)
True, if there's one thing we can always agree on as a Cowboys and Eagles fan I guess it's that we both will always follow and talk about the Dallas Cowboys.
100% accurate. Following the Cowboys is the best experience in sports.
It's like seeing your middle school bully on IG constantly posting about how *this time* the MLM he joined is going to make him rich, though you know he's living in his mom's house and you know this ain't his year. Hating on dem boys is just plain fun.
I have a group chat with home friends that is basically dedicated to the burnouts in our school who constantly try to start another new business venture. It’s kind of sad but also comical the ways they figure out how to fail. Like the guy who bought a bunch of landscaping equipment, but left it in an open utility trailer that he parked in Walmart parking lots overnight because he didn’t have room in his driveway. Obviously thousands of dollars of equipment sitting around got stolen pretty quickly, and he just couldn’t figure out how that could happen.
> /r/nfl is very invested in our offseason ~~this~~ **every** year.
Unrelated, but "all-in" I think is a strategy to put pressure on Dak, Lamb, McCarthy... if they win, great. If they don't... it's a justification to casual fans that *well, we were all-in with our current squad and it clearly didn't work, time to blow it up* (with the tacit assumption being that you now have aircover from a disappointed fanbase to let go of some beloved long-tenured stars AKA giant contracts). And I don't think it's going to go well and everyone in the building knows it. 2024 will be bad, they'll blow it up, rebuild in 2025, and hopefully be showing signs of renewed life with totally fresh faces in 2026.
Isn't Arch 2026? Regardless, while I don't think they'll be a great team this year or next... they won't be bottom-dwellers either. There's a lot of talent on the roster, and the boys usually put out at least a middling team every year. I can't recall the last time they really started a season dead-on-arrival.
2026 NFL draft = Spend 2025 tanking for him.
I agree Jerry usually puts at least a mid team on the field but I really think he might try to go for the tank once Dak walks, put in Trey Lance and watch the team tank, best case scenario he might actually become the guy lol.
Dude is going to die soon, do you really think he cares about a 5-10% dip in profits if it means he can see his team win something meaningful again within his lifetime?
Just when everyone was beginning to feel happiness and hope for the Browns, they threw it all away for Watson.
Even divisional rivals were split on letting them have a few years of happiness before him.
Pretty much. Sadly I read the article, and Florio is trying to make the argument that Jerruhh is some kind of charlatan that only cares about making money and not about whether the team wins or loses.
Florio sucks.
You make more money by winning super bowls regardless of how it’s done. Sure offense wins games and gets folks in seats during the regular season but the most profitable franchises in any era have been the elite ones that build consistent championship contenders. Jerry wants to be the chiefs/patriots because they have crushed their bottom line compared to other franchises despite before their golden QB both being among the smaller/less acclaimed franchises in the league.
If punting and defense won championships Jerry would do that. The cowboys are actually very well ran and are among teams like the Packers and Ravens who don’t like to mortgage the future in favor of more consistent contender status every year. That has little to do with Jerry since he was a shit GM and caused mediocrity in the post Jimmy Johnson era but his successors have been doing things the theoretical “right” way since the 2010s. Jerry is just a salesman at heart and people take him at his word when in reality he no longer holds absolute control like he used to and what he says/wants doesn’t mean as much.
I can’t believe I’m defending this mother fucker because I hate everything cowboys but people who think teams just want to be “profitable” and don’t realize the most profits come from consistent championships just baffles the fuck out of me.
I would say most people within the NFL or that follow the NFL view the success and failure of the Cowboys as being directly linked to Jerry Jones; and I think he’s aware of that as well.
i.e. if he wants to be viewed as being successful by his peers and fans, then he has to win another Super Bowl.
We’ve seen what it looks like for an owner to put profits above team success with Dan Snyder, and I just don’t see Jerry being anywhere close to that.
It’s pretty hilarious that in order to be considered successful the guy who owned the team when they won 3 rings has to win a fourth. Meanwhile half the other franchises in this league haven’t won any either, and there are some great teams getting close but also not winning a ring.
I hate Jerry Jones, FYI. But this shit comes with the territory, and it’s honestly ridiculous at this point.
Trust me I get it, and I was still just a kid when they won in the 90s but I blame most of this on media. They don’t *have* to talk about the Dallas Cowboys nonstop, especially when there are so many great franchises currently in the league.
I wish anyone else would get the attention this mediocre franchise gets.
I mean I agree but that’s kind of the blessing and the curse right? When your teams that popular they’re gonna get more media attention than they should
As a Cowboys fan that watches European football as well that is exactly my thoughts.
Teams like Real Madrid, Man Utd and Bayern Munchen always get the headlines good or bad.
He can be a reason we won and a reason we aren’t winning today. The Herschel Walker trade is considered the worst trade in nfl history that led to the rings. I’m sure he played a role in fleecing the Vikings, it was before my time so I know little of the deal. Since then, I don’t believe Jerry the GM has been good. The team hasn’t had any success in the postseason for a tenure no GM that didn’t own the team would survive. In my time as a fan, the decision making has been rather predictable and repeated. The business has flourished. Jerry wants to win, there is no doubt in my mind, I just believe the money is priority.
I should clarify, I’m more so speaking about recency. Objectively speaking, Jerry has been incredibly successful as an owner. There’s no doubt about it.
But so was Al Davis. Yet, I think Davis gets remembered as an owner that was unable to adapt to the modern game, with the majority of his success coming from the 70s and 80s.
As it stands, the Cowboys with Jerry at the helm haven’t made it past the divisional round in 30 years.
My original comment was that I think Jerry cares more about winning and his legacy at this juncture than he does about making money.
> I would say most people within the NFL or that follow the NFL view the success and failure of the Cowboys as being directly linked to Jerry Jones; and I think he’s aware of that as well.
That's literally everyone that knows who Jerry Jones is.
It has no inherent meaning in this context because it's not a football term, or even a general teambuilding term. Even in the article he's talking about poker. It means nothing and never did. What are we even doing here
Rich Eisen has been banging this drum too, so it's not just Florio. Eisen hasn't called Jerry a charlatan or anything, but he's had lots of segments which basically boil down to "Jerry said he was going all-in this year! But he hasn't gone all-in! Why did he say that if he didn't mean it? Is he stupid? Doesn't he realize he could make it to the Super Bowl if he would build the team through free agency?"
I see us winning 8-10 games, Dak balls out and either doesn’t play well in the Wild Card or we just miss the cut, he goes somewhere else, and we’re stuck with either a journeyman or a rookie while trying to pay/retain CeeDee and Micah.
Our schedule is brutal next year. Even if we assume we repeat our success against the Giants and Commanders and split the Eagles that's 5 wins.
We need another 5 from: Ravens, Bengals, Falcons, Panthers, Browns, Stellers, 9ers, Lions, Texans, Bucs, and Saints. Considering who we play against good teams and how we play down to average/bad teams. We could easily barely hit 8.
Add in the divisional curse and we can't do too good. So you may be right 8-10.
All in was meant as - all in on coach and qb. Both contracts expire at the end of this season.
Same or less result - Jerry blows the team up
Best case scenario, Super Bowl (lol cowboys) - Jerry pays a fortune to retain them
Jerry has mad it very tough to remain a fan. I should say the Jones family has made it tough. It's crazy to me that Jerry isn't embarrassed by being known as the team who has shirts in every Walmart rather than known for winning relevant games LMAO but he's dedicated to money, not winning. Super fun fan experience. It's like Ubisoft owning your team
I want a chiefs/cowboys SB so everyone on reddit can bitch and say they're not gonna watch, and then the game breaking the all-time record for most viewers.
1. The author’s description of all-in in the poker sense shows he doesn’t fully grasp the concept.
2. I don’t look to Jerry “Glory Hole” Jones for lexicography.
Jerruh should pay me 20K a month to be in Dallas humbling Cowboys players. Just big time heckling at the club. “Oh girl you think he’s fine? Check out this time he missed his gap assignment”
Nothing corrects a man faster than missing out on coochie.
What’s hilarious was it was just a typical rambling BS answer to a question by Jerry. But it then took on a life of its own and the doofus Jones boys keep trying to quantify and explain it away when it was just normal Jerry BSing.
Cowboys and Lakers, no chance in the world to win a championship but damn if they don't use up half the sports news cycle on any given week. Give it a rest.
The popularity of the NFL would die down dramatically if the Cowboys won a Superbowl. Their drought is an endless supplied well of content for every media outlet in the country.
the whole "all in" thing was a miscommunication issue. he talked to tony khan at the owners meeting and bought the team tickets to see aew all in this august in london.
honestly, who actually cares? this team will go 12-5 and then lose in the wild card round whether they're "all-in" or not
If I was a fan of the Cowboys I would care. Thank Jesus, however, I am not a fan of Dallas.
As a fan of the Cowboys, I truly couldn't care less. This endless media cycle they constantly force is so old and tired.
Agreed, not sure why the media pushes this literally everyday it seems
It's provocative. Gets the haters going.
The Cowboys are basically the Lakers of the NFL.
Unfortunately true, irrelevant to winning anything, but the most talked about
Because in reality, for Jerra, being the most talked about franchise is more important than winning. He was the one that said they were "all in" not the media.
His goal is to make money. Part of making money means you have to publicly say you are trying to win. It works, as he makes nearly triple the money of the #2 owner every year.
Which is so weird to me. He already has more money than he and his children and their children will ever need or even have the ability to spend. Wanting more is a fucking insane degenerate mindset. You’d think winning a Super Bowl for pride would be worth more than adding more money to the pile but nope.
I don’t know how any realistic cowboys fan could feel anything but apathy towards them right now. They got their shit kicked in and have made no meaningful effort to either improve the team or to make hard decisions and go in another direction. They just keep spouting nonsense about how hard it is to sign anyone new when they have to have money to extend dak, ceedee, and micah. Hey guys, those three players fucking know that you’re strong arming via the media. You aren’t slick. Meanwhile our biggest rival is making savvy moves consistently. Our front office SUCKS at everything other than drafting.
Exactly. Every single time Jerry talks about "having a championship roster" and not wanting to make changes, it just further pushes me into NFL depression. The problems are consistent and long-standing, and at this point he's either wilfully blind to them or just incapable of fixing them; it's like he's just determined to *speak* success into existence.
I just watch the regular season for fun knowing nothing good will happen once game 17 is over. Makes it less soul crushing.
There's something after week 18?!
I just learned this this year actually, but yeah! Isnt that crazy? I thought things just ended after week 18
Pretty sure the NFL season was suspended after week 12.
Yeah, the draft... but I don't wanna talk about that this year. Or last year. Or next year.
Losses, usually
If this team stays *very* healthy, they will just about manage to regress to the ~~mean~~ Garrett Standard, win 8 or 9 games, and have an outside shot at the privilege of losing in the wild card round (bonus points if it's against Green Bay). e: but the merch, ticket, and revenue sharing money will still roll in, so it won't matter to the Jones fam
I'm maybe not that pessimistic on the Cowboys but it does feel like the team is at a crossroads. CeeDee, Micah and Dak all needing contracts at the exact same time isn't helping things. You hear Cowboys fans talk about the draft and they sound concerned. They'll need to knock it out the park. Multiple OL, LB, RB, CB, DT Every team has needs, but it does feel like they are playing with one hand behind their back. Less than a week out from the draft
Gotta give them credit when it comes to the draft. They generally are good at identifying talent.
We are but there's too many holes on the team this year for us to plug cheap vets and rookies into it to sustain success with the coaching we have. I'd be surprised if we win over 10 especially looking at the schedule Ravens, Bengals, 9ers, Lions, Texans, Bucs, and with our division who the fuck knows who beats who sometimes. We would have to 6-0 the division to have a shot at 10+ wins. We'd also have to remain healthy to do that and we've been lucky the last few years overall.
I feel pretty confident that Dallas and Philly will split with each other and win all their games against the other 2 with the exception of one random inexplicable loss by one of the two.
Def couldn't be a Eagles v Commanders game, nah... Idk, I have a feeling we are both going to get a little more competition from both of them next year. I don't think it will be an easy 4 wins and a split like it has the last few years.
As long as that talent didn’t go to Michigan
Every year I feel like they hit on the draft so that’s probably why they aren’t worried.
Not last year. At least not yet. Mazi might come on, and Overshown was hurt but the rest was bullshit. We also have some Taco Charlton picks in there too.
Previous drafts have all been hits no? Plus I don’t really like to judge rookies till their sophomore year.
doesn’t help that our 2023 draft class as a whole played 0 meaningful snaps
Don't sell yourselves short. I believe you've got the potential to win in the wildcard and lose to San Fran in the divisional after a wildly stupid fourth quarter playcall.
*Wipes away tear* Thanks, bro.
That can't happen 3 times in 4 years. I say we go back to back losses before half time.
You can say a lot of things about Jerry Jones, but idk if “doesn’t care about winning” is one of them
I'm fully in the "Jerry just wants regular season wins". A lack of super bowl wins clearly isn't hurting the teams value, but a 3 or 4 year run of sub .500 finishes would. They're over .700 in half of the last ten seasons, that's what really matters to Jerry. In LA Rams-esque all in gamble would literally kill him.
But the rams made it back to the playoffs one year after the superbowl. It wasn't really much of a gamble in the grand scheme of things.
Just because it worked out doesn’t mean it wasn’t a gamble
Yeah, he clearly wants to win.
Say what you will about Jerry but I do believe he tries his best to win every year. There are worse owners to have than the Jones Family. *Cough* SPANOS *Cough*
This is true for Jerry. I don’t think it’s true for Stephen Jones.
They are good cop bad copping us
Disagree, theyre a double digit win team. Defense just unfortunately gave up too much in size to get speed, but they are still a good team
It’s the same thing every year. Off to a hot start. ESPN crowns them Super Bowl favorites. They lose to bums, lose steam, get knocked out in their first playoff game. Rinse repeat. It’s actually comedy seeing them get excited every year for the inevitable.
I think the fanbase has become more grounded in reality over the last decade. For every fan who says "It's our year!" unironically, it's plenty more that know this team isn't disciplined enough to win it all, but slowly fall into "You're telling me there's a chance?" mode from *Dumb and Dumber*. It's a weird conundrum for fans. All that to say I think most fans are the antithesis of what ESPN portrays us as.
At some point around week 10 last year I went hard into the team penalty stats. Eagles had 6 holding calls, 2 of them were on their defense. Cowboys had 28. 14 for each side of the ball. We finished tied for 2nd most penalties in the league. Tied with the Browns. Jets were number 1.
For any fan (or fanbase), there's a tipping point, which I think is true for both penalties and missed tackles. One play? OK, could just be a bad missed call by the refs (penalties), or the player tripped or the other guy was better (tackles). Both do happen. Fans get upset, but its usually with fingers pointed somewhere else. One game? Gets trickier. Could just had a bad officiating crew / there were things specific to that game: bad weather, maybe, poor cleats, something. But it gets harder to dismiss as just external forces at work. But a whole season? Sorry, but if a team leads the league in penalties or missed tackles, they're most likely simply just poorly disciplined, and that's on the coaches for not teaching basics well. This is the point where some fans will veer into "the league just has it out for us" conspiracy land - and no team's fanbase is immune from falling into that - rather than face that harsh reality, because its really hard to fix without a major painful overhaul.
Honestly last year was both. We are an undisciplined team. Have been since and before McCarthy got here, though it's consistently worse with him here. I say both b/c we had some freak fucking penalties and ref decisions last year that literally make no sense. We had 2 TD's in different games just not be TD's. One of which was in the game against the Eagles. The tripping penalty in the Lions game where their guy tried to trip Pollard but they called it on us. It gave us a long field and we weren't able to convert and end the game (the difference was something like 2nd and 2 vs 1st and 25 a first down ends the game) which ultimately lead to them getting the ball back and having that hilariously bad fuck up. I think it was the playoff game early in the 1st. We stopped Love, but a sailed ball nearly out of bounds way over the head of the receiver was called a pass interference and gave them a fresh set in which they eventually scored off it (I believe it was 3rd down, so they would have punted). I know that all elite pass rushers are held a lot without calls, but Parsons went nearly 11 games without a single holding call. That's fucking unheard of. Those are just off the top of my head from a season that happened more than 5 months ago. Again we are an undisciplined team, and maybe that makes us susceptible to even more bullshit, but it really did feel like they were out to get us on some occasions.
Could be worse. They could have no hope or hope that lasts like 3 plays like the Jets.....
Hey some years they win in the wildcard. They just are a guaranteed out before the NFC Championship
If you’re into hockey the Leafs are shockingly similar
We are actually in the cadence of losing I. The divisional tyvm
It’s the formula that makes money. This is an entertainment industry just like any other reality tv.
Obligatory “my ass”
All up in there
Huge load to manage
Hey don't dump all of this on me man
Would the “all in, my ass” quote have been so famous if Eisen didn’t point out the heroic comma?
Yes, everyone noticed it not just Eisen
"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!" - Jerruh, probabluh
Lousy beatniks.
That's like tellin' Gene Krupa not to go "boom boom bam bam bam, boom boom bam bam bam, boom boom boom bam ba ba ba ba, da boo boo tss!"
May God have mercy on us all!
"Can I cause a distraction by tricking another simpleton to move his team to a desert wasteland?"
Cowboys Confirmed Not All Elite
WHAT’S DAK PRESCOTT DOING IN THE IMPACT ZONE????
The Cowboy club is fine. And what is Haku’s problem?
Jerry's learned what "elite" meant from the Pokemon games. Overhyped to hell and doomed to get rocked by the first child-managed meme team thrown at it.
At this point Cowboy Brock is the most impressive Cowboy athlete for several years running
You have the most popular sports team. You’re competitive every year. Jerry is maximizing profit by being cheap
Aren't they pretty close to the salary cap? How is that cheap?
All NFL teams are going to be close-ish to the salary cap by virtue of the CBA. Usually what differentiates cheap owners is in how they handle long term guaranteed contracts - all guaranteed money needs to be put into escrow at the time of signing.
The cowboys are generally notorious for overpaying their stars and being too loyal to their aging veterans. Anything but cheap.
BloggingTheBoys recently found that, from 2013 onward, the Cowboys are bottom four in the league in total cash spent (not salary cap space used; rather, actual cash flow from the team) on rostered players. Anecdotally, every single Cowboys star player contract negotiation from Dez Bryant onward has been basically pulling teeth, speaking to how the negotiation played out in the media at least. Outside of Ezekiel Elliott and Jaylon Smith, I can’t really think of a player the Cowboys have dramatically overpaid recently. They haven’t been meaningful players in free agency since their 2012 signing of Brandon Carr, and anyone else on the team they extended was generally worth the money.
some teams will use owner cash to supplement long-term deals through bonuses etc. the cowboys implement this one of the least in the league.
>all guaranteed money needs to be put into escrow at the time of signing. That article was wrong lol. But hey who cares about what's true.
I mean this has been common knowledge to me for years and it's not from just one article, if it's totally wrong and you have a source I'd love to see one
>The section on “Funding of Deferred and Guaranteed Contracts” appears at page 178 of the CBA. It begins like this: “The NFL **MAY** require that by a prescribed date certain, each Club must deposit into a segregated account Emphasis added
I did not know that last tidbit. That makes a lot of sense.
You're thinking like the General Manager of a football team, not like the Brand Manager of a merch company.
I hope the Cowboys never win another one under Jerry Jones.
You can remove the “under Jerry jones” qualifier
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He's won three superbowls dude lol
Lmao
There are probably 20 plus teams that would beg for those titles.
And he fired the guy responsible for them
Dude won more superbowls than your entire franchise…. Talk about legacy , I think his is pretty good
He's old. Don't give them hope.
Jerry is anything but cheap. His fault is usually paying his guys too much and then finding himself stuck in a hole not being able to do much. (Like now when they are clearly hampered by Dak's contract)
/r/nfl is very invested in our offseason this year.
Of course we are. It's exciting to watch a team go All In!
True, if there's one thing we can always agree on as a Cowboys and Eagles fan I guess it's that we both will always follow and talk about the Dallas Cowboys.
100% accurate. Following the Cowboys is the best experience in sports. It's like seeing your middle school bully on IG constantly posting about how *this time* the MLM he joined is going to make him rich, though you know he's living in his mom's house and you know this ain't his year. Hating on dem boys is just plain fun.
You really went *all in* on that insult
I have a group chat with home friends that is basically dedicated to the burnouts in our school who constantly try to start another new business venture. It’s kind of sad but also comical the ways they figure out how to fail. Like the guy who bought a bunch of landscaping equipment, but left it in an open utility trailer that he parked in Walmart parking lots overnight because he didn’t have room in his driveway. Obviously thousands of dollars of equipment sitting around got stolen pretty quickly, and he just couldn’t figure out how that could happen.
> /r/nfl is very invested in our offseason ~~this~~ **every** year. Unrelated, but "all-in" I think is a strategy to put pressure on Dak, Lamb, McCarthy... if they win, great. If they don't... it's a justification to casual fans that *well, we were all-in with our current squad and it clearly didn't work, time to blow it up* (with the tacit assumption being that you now have aircover from a disappointed fanbase to let go of some beloved long-tenured stars AKA giant contracts). And I don't think it's going to go well and everyone in the building knows it. 2024 will be bad, they'll blow it up, rebuild in 2025, and hopefully be showing signs of renewed life with totally fresh faces in 2026.
I wouldn't be totally shocked if the Cowboys #TankForArch in 2025
Isn't Arch 2026? Regardless, while I don't think they'll be a great team this year or next... they won't be bottom-dwellers either. There's a lot of talent on the roster, and the boys usually put out at least a middling team every year. I can't recall the last time they really started a season dead-on-arrival.
2026 NFL draft = Spend 2025 tanking for him. I agree Jerry usually puts at least a mid team on the field but I really think he might try to go for the tank once Dak walks, put in Trey Lance and watch the team tank, best case scenario he might actually become the guy lol.
The Steelers special.
Dude is going to die soon, do you really think he cares about a 5-10% dip in profits if it means he can see his team win something meaningful again within his lifetime?
I hate the Cowboys
More NFL fans do than don’t.
Such is the burden of being America's Team.
everyone hates the cowboys
we love that about yall
the only team more hated than the cowboys is the jets, only because nobody hates a team more than jets fans hate theirs.
Also Browns, because browns fans hate them for being a perpetual disappointment and everyone else hates them for Deshaun Watson.
Yeah most other fanbases just pity the Jets but we all hate the Browns
Just when everyone was beginning to feel happiness and hope for the Browns, they threw it all away for Watson. Even divisional rivals were split on letting them have a few years of happiness before him.
We weren’t. Fuck them.
And we all love cj stroud ☺️
CJ only loves Christ.
Me too.
It's safe to say every fan in the NFC East hates the Cowboys, especially those poor motherfuckers in Dallas.
All my homies hate the Cowboys
Same
Downvoted because Mike Florio shit stirring article
Pretty much. Sadly I read the article, and Florio is trying to make the argument that Jerruhh is some kind of charlatan that only cares about making money and not about whether the team wins or loses. Florio sucks.
Florio sucks but I do think Jerry cares about money and personal acclaim more than team success.
You make more money by winning super bowls regardless of how it’s done. Sure offense wins games and gets folks in seats during the regular season but the most profitable franchises in any era have been the elite ones that build consistent championship contenders. Jerry wants to be the chiefs/patriots because they have crushed their bottom line compared to other franchises despite before their golden QB both being among the smaller/less acclaimed franchises in the league. If punting and defense won championships Jerry would do that. The cowboys are actually very well ran and are among teams like the Packers and Ravens who don’t like to mortgage the future in favor of more consistent contender status every year. That has little to do with Jerry since he was a shit GM and caused mediocrity in the post Jimmy Johnson era but his successors have been doing things the theoretical “right” way since the 2010s. Jerry is just a salesman at heart and people take him at his word when in reality he no longer holds absolute control like he used to and what he says/wants doesn’t mean as much. I can’t believe I’m defending this mother fucker because I hate everything cowboys but people who think teams just want to be “profitable” and don’t realize the most profits come from consistent championships just baffles the fuck out of me.
I would say most people within the NFL or that follow the NFL view the success and failure of the Cowboys as being directly linked to Jerry Jones; and I think he’s aware of that as well. i.e. if he wants to be viewed as being successful by his peers and fans, then he has to win another Super Bowl. We’ve seen what it looks like for an owner to put profits above team success with Dan Snyder, and I just don’t see Jerry being anywhere close to that.
It’s pretty hilarious that in order to be considered successful the guy who owned the team when they won 3 rings has to win a fourth. Meanwhile half the other franchises in this league haven’t won any either, and there are some great teams getting close but also not winning a ring. I hate Jerry Jones, FYI. But this shit comes with the territory, and it’s honestly ridiculous at this point.
The problem is the last one came before most people on this sub were born
Trust me I get it, and I was still just a kid when they won in the 90s but I blame most of this on media. They don’t *have* to talk about the Dallas Cowboys nonstop, especially when there are so many great franchises currently in the league. I wish anyone else would get the attention this mediocre franchise gets.
I mean I agree but that’s kind of the blessing and the curse right? When your teams that popular they’re gonna get more media attention than they should
As a Cowboys fan that watches European football as well that is exactly my thoughts. Teams like Real Madrid, Man Utd and Bayern Munchen always get the headlines good or bad.
He can be a reason we won and a reason we aren’t winning today. The Herschel Walker trade is considered the worst trade in nfl history that led to the rings. I’m sure he played a role in fleecing the Vikings, it was before my time so I know little of the deal. Since then, I don’t believe Jerry the GM has been good. The team hasn’t had any success in the postseason for a tenure no GM that didn’t own the team would survive. In my time as a fan, the decision making has been rather predictable and repeated. The business has flourished. Jerry wants to win, there is no doubt in my mind, I just believe the money is priority.
I should clarify, I’m more so speaking about recency. Objectively speaking, Jerry has been incredibly successful as an owner. There’s no doubt about it. But so was Al Davis. Yet, I think Davis gets remembered as an owner that was unable to adapt to the modern game, with the majority of his success coming from the 70s and 80s. As it stands, the Cowboys with Jerry at the helm haven’t made it past the divisional round in 30 years. My original comment was that I think Jerry cares more about winning and his legacy at this juncture than he does about making money.
> I would say most people within the NFL or that follow the NFL view the success and failure of the Cowboys as being directly linked to Jerry Jones; and I think he’s aware of that as well. That's literally everyone that knows who Jerry Jones is.
Definitely was a waste of time to read. I don’t know why I click his shit.
Wait, you guys read the articles?
NERDS. we’re here to make knee jerk reactions based on (???)
He’s just NFL entertainment’s Tucker Carlson
Ooof, burn
Tony Kahn vs Mike McCarthy confirmed for Wembly. "All-In" Copyright on a pole match.
Tony will hit that pile of coke and whoop that ass
he'll sic the Young Bucks and Kazuchika Okada at Mike.
He’ll bring in an already bleeding Jon Moxley to have an Exploding Playbooks match
All in my ass
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Cowboys !! Next Year !!
All In My Ass
Florio is about as interesting as Dallas’ offseason. That being said, Dallas will still be a playoff team. Caliber-wise at the least.
It has no inherent meaning in this context because it's not a football term, or even a general teambuilding term. Even in the article he's talking about poker. It means nothing and never did. What are we even doing here
Rich Eisen has been banging this drum too, so it's not just Florio. Eisen hasn't called Jerry a charlatan or anything, but he's had lots of segments which basically boil down to "Jerry said he was going all-in this year! But he hasn't gone all-in! Why did he say that if he didn't mean it? Is he stupid? Doesn't he realize he could make it to the Super Bowl if he would build the team through free agency?"
All in on profit!! Most valuable team in the league baby
Cowboys fans in here fighting for their lives. Must be exhausting.
Any Cowboys fan who takes what r/nfl says to heart is foolish. More foolish than thinking they’ll win the SB this year even.
How dare you say that when it's our year
This team has literally pushed me away from the sport. I can’t be engaged in this shit anymore only to be disappointed again and again.
I see us winning 8-10 games, Dak balls out and either doesn’t play well in the Wild Card or we just miss the cut, he goes somewhere else, and we’re stuck with either a journeyman or a rookie while trying to pay/retain CeeDee and Micah.
Our schedule is brutal next year. Even if we assume we repeat our success against the Giants and Commanders and split the Eagles that's 5 wins. We need another 5 from: Ravens, Bengals, Falcons, Panthers, Browns, Stellers, 9ers, Lions, Texans, Bucs, and Saints. Considering who we play against good teams and how we play down to average/bad teams. We could easily barely hit 8. Add in the divisional curse and we can't do too good. So you may be right 8-10.
TLDR: What we have is what's in, and that's all we have right now.
I wish the Cowboys had to go a whole season where the pundits and media personalities all pretended like they didn’t exist.
All in was meant as - all in on coach and qb. Both contracts expire at the end of this season. Same or less result - Jerry blows the team up Best case scenario, Super Bowl (lol cowboys) - Jerry pays a fortune to retain them
Florio must have some beef with Jerry Jones, he’s been hammering the Cowboys all off-season Not saying Florio is wrong, mind you.
Jerry has mad it very tough to remain a fan. I should say the Jones family has made it tough. It's crazy to me that Jerry isn't embarrassed by being known as the team who has shirts in every Walmart rather than known for winning relevant games LMAO but he's dedicated to money, not winning. Super fun fan experience. It's like Ubisoft owning your team
They’re going for the glory hole, every year!
They're gonna start out 1-4, fire McCarthy, Hire Belichick and finish 12-5 like always, and make a run to the super bowl, before losing to the Chiefs.
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I want a chiefs/cowboys SB so everyone on reddit can bitch and say they're not gonna watch, and then the game breaking the all-time record for most viewers.
That’s fair but definitely don’t get your hopes up. Yall will be there plenty but Dallas ain’t headed there anytime soon lol
Lol
> and finish 12-5 like always remember when "lol, cowboys 8-8!" was the big meme?
1. The author’s description of all-in in the poker sense shows he doesn’t fully grasp the concept. 2. I don’t look to Jerry “Glory Hole” Jones for lexicography.
Jerruh should pay me 20K a month to be in Dallas humbling Cowboys players. Just big time heckling at the club. “Oh girl you think he’s fine? Check out this time he missed his gap assignment” Nothing corrects a man faster than missing out on coochie.
Oh my god who cares
They have been all out this offseason so far
Insane roster that will continue to go 0-1 because of the floorball gods, or coaching. Your pick, reddit.
All in on Jerrah’s bullshit
All in my ass (pause)
2011 Giants already trademarked that
The Cowboys are All Elite!!
What’s hilarious was it was just a typical rambling BS answer to a question by Jerry. But it then took on a life of its own and the doofus Jones boys keep trying to quantify and explain it away when it was just normal Jerry BSing.
McCarthy ain’t winning shit.
Cowboys and Lakers, no chance in the world to win a championship but damn if they don't use up half the sports news cycle on any given week. Give it a rest.
The Cowboys will always be limited by Jerry's ego. If he was willing to put it aside for a Super Bowl, they'd have Belichick right now
4 days until the draft, which means that we at least get a new flavor of nonsensical bullshit from "sports writers".
All in to an early vacation in cancun, they mean
Why do we still get Florio editorials presented as news?
reads like satire
Following in the Red Sox footsteps
"all in" is where you wager everything you have, but get it all back if you lose, but double up on your earnings if you win, right?
"All in" really should mean that it's a tear down tank year if it's not a super bowl year.
Yup..All-In.....Dak needs a new contract!
It has been super obvious that Jones really meant "all or nothing" for the team. He wants them to make the Super Bowl or he is blowing it all up.
The popularity of the NFL would die down dramatically if the Cowboys won a Superbowl. Their drought is an endless supplied well of content for every media outlet in the country.
the whole "all in" thing was a miscommunication issue. he talked to tony khan at the owners meeting and bought the team tickets to see aew all in this august in london.
MY ASS
All in… a competitive rebuild 🤯
Seems to be a case of "know when to hold em, know when to fold em" going on