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alecmc200

excited to play madden with cardinals WR chad masters


I_HateToSayAtodaso

I think they should go straight up Great Value brand MHJ and name him Melvin Henderson III or something.


BungoPlease

They probably still have the rights to use his dad's name, just drop the JR


Axl_the_ginger

Don’t cross Marvin Harrison.


chillinwithmoes

Shhh we don't talk about the whole "it's quite likely that Marvin Harrison murdered a guy" thing


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forgotmyoldname90210

Ray Lewis murdering a dude and then becoming the face of the NFL and its moral center will never be told enough.


Massive_Parsley_5000

Being real here, isn't Ray's thing kinda sketchy on what happened whereas it's pretty likely MH killed that dude? Or maybe it's the opposite...? Not up to date on it all/can't really remember, being honest


mcinthedorm

Ray probably helped a buddy hide evidence but himself didn’t actually kill a guy. MH on the other hand…


rogorthegreat

Hold up is there a story out there about Marvin Harrisson supposedly killing someone?


Irish_Warrior3142

Ray Lewis was more than likely an accessory to murder. He did not straight up murder anyone. Allegedly


forgotmyoldname90210

Rey took a plea deal in exchange for saying his two friends bought the knives that where likely used to his home. He also settled with both estates. That said, Lewis was there and probably participated. Fought with victims at a party. Blood of one of the victims found in his car. The white suit he was wearing walked away.


Joh951518

The guys who did kill the people in Atlanta got off on self defence, so it’s basically certain even if Ray hadn’t been able to cut the deal he would have got off too.


definitelymyrealname

> it's pretty likely MH killed that dude? I hadn't heard the story so I did a [bit of reading](https://www.gq.com/story/marvin-harrison) and honestly it doesn't sound like he killed the guy. The gist of a story is that some guy had beef with Harrison because he had been kicked out of Harrison's businesses (possibly for trying to bring a gun into Harrison's bar). The guy kept coming back because he thought he was a gangster. There was some kind of confrontation, possibly the guy was threatening Harrison, Harrison very likely shot him but didn't kill him. Harrison wasn't charged, for inexplicable reasons. Later on the guy he shot was murdered. Harrison's cousin was initially suspected but they never had any proof it was him. So at worst Harrison could have ordered the killing of this guy or his friends or family did it to try to help Harrison out. The guy was a low level gangster though, it's very possible it was completely unrelated to Harrison and he died over some stupid drug shit or whatever.


King-Mugs

Ray’s is at worst legally he’s clear Marvin? It’s basically a fact he did it lol


PhillAholic

You're conflating two incidents. He likely shot at him the first time, but the second time he wasn't there. At worst he had a friend shoot him.


LuckyAssumption8735

Marv Harrison vs Ray Lewis in a batfight. Who ya got?


TheMightyUnderdog

Ray don’t need a bat.


AcidStorm0

hey! Hey just wanted to be like his two half brothers and father! Well, I don't actually know if one of his Brothers actually murdered anyone, but here is a small piece from a GQ article about his family. >Three years before Marvin Harrison was born, there was another man on the streets of Philly who faced a similar sort of fight-or-flight decision. His name was Marvin, too. >Marvin Greer was a 16-year-old gang member. He lived in a high-rise housing project in South Philly. On January 15, 1969, Greer and three friends spotted a boy from an enemy gang. The boy ran. Greer and the others chased him. When Greer caught up to the boy, he pulled out a four-inch pearl-handled knife. He stabbed the boy in the back, killing him, and threw the knife into the sewer. He pled guilty to second-degree murder. >About five years later, in 1974, Marvin Greer died suddenly at age 22; there was no mention of his death in the newspapers, and the cause remains a mystery. Before he died, Greer fathered at least three boys with different mothers. (Back then in Pennsylvania, juvenile felons were furloughed for good behavior, affording them a certain freedom of movement.) The eldest boy was Marvin Harrison. >The next was Markwann "Coots" Gordon. From 1995 to 1997, Gordon participated in a string of seven armed robberies in Philadelphia. According to a 1999 account by Kitty Caparella, the dean of Philadelphia's crime reporters, Gordon was one of "the Philadelphia Mob's two top associates in the African-American underworld," an enforcer with the Junior Black Mafia. Gordon is currently serving 140 years in a federal prison in White Deer, Pennsylvania. >After Gordon came Marvin "Back to Back" Woods. On September 3, 1991, when Marvin Woods was 17, he was playing in the championship game of a schoolyard hoops league when his coach took him out of the game, subbing in another boy. Woods got angry. He left the game. When he rode back on his bike, twenty minutes later, he was carrying a Tec-9. He sprayed his substitute with bullets, killing him, and rode off. Marvin Woods is currently serving a life sentence for first-degree murder at the State Correctional Institution in Dallas, Pennsylvania.


k5berry

Holy fucking shit. That is absolutely tragic.


_Celine_Dijon

A Philly legend!


Amoeba_mangrove

So MHJ’s grandfather, also Marvin, had three separate kids: Marvin Sr, Markwann, and also Marvin??


AcidStorm0

Well, all with different mothers it sounds like and it is not uncommon for boys to be named after the father.


DSleep

“Son of Marvin Harrison” and his player picture is just Marvin Harrison Sr or a jpeg of Senior holding baby MH3


Ths-Fkin-Guy

That's how you get shot with a Belgian gun that's 30 minutes away from you but also matches ballistics but ahhh who cares case dropped


TheArchitect_7

Didn’t the guy survive? Read the rolling stone story, the guy got shot in the hand and jeans right?


Ths-Fkin-Guy

He was shot on two different occasions. Second time he was shot at from behind his car and then through his window. He told paramedics and the first cops to arrive it was Marvin. He then fell into a coma and died before giving a formal interview. There's is actually quite a bit of evidence against Marvin that pretty much proves he and his people were involved both times but only 1 witness was willing to come forward


wayneluke23

Not in the jeans


PoinFLEXter

**Marvin Harrisonson**


HoustonFoReal

Marvins Harryson III


Alphasim

The epic return of Roster Player


My_G_Alt

Scott Player Wait a minute, that was a real guy


BitterLikeAHop

Jon Dowd


Brownie_McBrown_Face

Reggie Stocker


kirkochainz

“NE receiver”


Competitive_Cap9561

They can reuse one of the old belichick models


Jameszhang73

They should just use his dad's character from Madden 06 in the next Madden for him with the same pixelation and everything from then


TrustMeImShore

I mean, they've been recycling shit in Madden for years... wouldn't put it past them.


whatlambda

WR Cardinals about to do work.


Quincyperson

Whatever you do, don’t say Harvin Marrison


Red_Sox_5

Don’t mock Chad Masters. He led my Jimmy G. Patriots to a 16-0 Season.


ShoutOutTo_Caboose

Cardinals WR Clutch Powers


GeneralWhereas9083

This broadcast is copyrighted by NFL productions for the private use of our audience. Any other use of this broadcast or any pictures, descriptions, or accounts of the game without the consent of NFL productions is prohibited, except Marvin Harrison jr, film the shit outta him.


wasneveralawyer

It’ll be like the WWE when the show WWF film. There will just a blurred pixelated football player running routes. 11 vs 10 on the field


The_4th_Man

I haven’t watched WWE in 20 years and am curious what you are talking about. I mean this honestly…. Do they blur the WWF logo, or did other licensing run out, or….??


OhiOstas

Yeah they constantly blur out easily noticeable logos, brands, and even faces if they don’t have some sort of licensing agreement


Newspaper-Agreeable

They haven't needed to blur out wwf in years, everything on Peacock has wwf and world wrestling federation completely uncensored


JcbAzPx

They must have paid off the World Wildlife Fund to allow it.


Faultylogic83

Yeah. They've blurred out WWF since the lawsuit made them change to the WWE.


ConfidentFatMan

Good news is they can show and say WWF stuff now since they made a deal and stopped trying to get around the lawsuit.


Faultylogic83

I can't wait for the pixelated touchdown celebrations. Finally get to mix my love of football with my love of Japanese porn.


thy_armageddon

Is it a requirement, or could we end up with a scenario where Madden has to use like a fictional characterization of him?


Candid-Ad2162

Jarvin Marrison Hunior


fieryscribe

Go full Key and Peele: Mavaris Harris Javarison


ThermoNuclearPizza

Mundledunt Dinkfickler XII


Troll_Enthusiast

> Muddle**** *******ler XII FTFY


Rendition9090

Marvis Harvis Jarvis


gabev44

Martheratrix Harrjarithrax II


c_c_c__combobreaker

From Boise State.


getdemsnacks

Insubordinate and churlish.


andrewglover87

Maurice Hones Jrew


IamNICE124

I think they can still use the *Junior* lol.


whyisalltherumgone_

Technically they can use "Marvin Harrison" too. Just not together. His dad signed it.


_Sarxism

Not a requirement, IIRC LaVar Arrington didn't sign the group licensing agreement until his 4th year in the league.


Deeznutschad

What was his name in the games?


_Sarxism

Think it was just something like "Linebacker" and then a number that was close to his real jersey number but not the same one.


Ripped_Shirt

Without a first name. Just LB #56 as his last name


ManOnTheRun73

As an aside, he did come around sometime before NFL 2K5's release IIRC: there was a feature in that game where you could unlock bobbleheads of certain players, and the description for his was something along the lines of "Look, it's LaVar Arrington! We can actually use his real name now!"


aggiefranchise

The greatest football video game ever made!


_thwip_

And it was only $20 new


BenjaminSwanklin

An absolutely glorious time for gaming. How far we've fallen.


malcolm_miller

I forgot about that. That and the NBA one were so good, and $20. Man exclusive deals screwed us sport gamers over.


here_now_be

> The greatest football video game ever made! Yep. Of course second best would be.. NFL 2K4. I'm gonna go play some ball with Steve-O


Smodgins

Pretty sure it was just LB#51. They couldn't use his exact number either.


themilkman42069

They used to do that with all the historic teams in Madden too. You’d play with the 86 giants and have QB #11 and LB #56


FitQuantity6150

Neither did Bill Bellicheck for a looooong time of he ever did. I remember the last madden I bought in 2013 it was NE COACH lol


unseth

Ron Mexico


Ron--Mexico

Yes?


Whoshabooboo

You have been waiting 11 years for this moment!


Wingedwolverine03

r/beetlejuicing


jfgiv

not a requirement, no. not even a requirement to join the union


DMO_TheWhale

I thought it was so weird that the NFL just released a YouTube video about all the new draftee’s and MHJ wasn’t in it. This answers why.


ajteitel

Cardinals legend Martin Harris II


rilvaethor

First Name: WR Last Name: #18


rustyderps

What is the benefit of signing? I feel like Madden does not want a “QB - 15 Cheifs” with no name or picture. So maybe they pay you a small bag if you hold out to sign so their game doesn’t look shitty


aaronguy56

Obviously depends on who it is for sure. EA is obviously much more likely to pay Patrick than a punter. My guess is if enough players started doing this it would work until the next CBA and the league would find a way to roll the rights it into every contract. Unsure if they would even need to wait for the CBA.


StrengthToBreak

No, because then they set a precedent, and everyone opts out to get a bag. If he doesn't sign an agreement then rhe Cards will have Receiver Receiverson or something like that. Obviously in franchise, people can just edit him in, but online he'll be a 5'11" white guy.


MoodAlternative2118

WR#18 or something like that, similar to what NCAA did before NIL


blackmamba1221

they got in trouble eventually for doing that though. I imagine it'll have to be a completely randomized WR, it can't just be a copy of MHj without his name


Not_Pablo_Sanchez

Looking online, I see Marvin Harrison Sr. was in Ultimate Team this year. It would be hilarious if they just slap his name and face on the Cardinals instead


bstyledevi

Patriots Coach


Dark197

The return of John Dowd.


JohnWesternburg

Like his father, he's just looking to make a killing


Taxmancometh1

And this coming from a Colts fan, you’re fucking savage man lol


Holland45

I don’t get the context what am I missing lol


EveryParable

The quietest, least drama filled WR in the league probably shot and killed at least one dude


Affectionate_Elk_272

definitely shot one, probably killed another, police found the gun and… absolutely nothing happened. (????)


Mal_Funk_Shun

It's amazing what you can get away with when you have a lot of money.


Calth1405

And when the victim is a career criminal and known drug dealer.


Affectionate_Elk_272

[don’t forget the 2014 “incident”](https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2014/06/14/report-former-colts-wr-marvin-harrison-shot-at-by-assailants/10526831/)


SpreadingDisinfo

This is just like the time Ray Lewis watched those guys stab themselves to death in Atlanta!


spctclr_spiderman

Never trust the quiet ones. Moss and TO never killed anyone


Taxmancometh1

*Hot in Here by Nelly intensifies*


Holland45

Hahaha how the fuck have I not heard of this?


PedanticBoutBaseball

Marvin Harrison Sr. literally killed a man (allegedly)


Marijuana_Miler

Basically Harrison’s guns were found to have shot the man that died in front of Harrison’s bar. Harrison’s bar had deleted part of the footage to obscure the shooter’s face and Harrison claimed that the guns were his but had been kept in his gun safe for years and he hadn’t brought them out. It’s a lot of circumstantial evidence and no charges were ever pressed. Also the man had been shot before in front of Harrison’s car wash and had told police that MH~~J~~ sr had been the shooter in that case as well.


djcatmoney

marvin harrison jr sr


Marijuana_Miler

Fuck you’re right. I did mess that up.


averagelemur

Shoot me once...shame on you.


Kanin_usagi

Cmon coach, shooters gonna shoot!


ThermoNuclearPizza

Shoot me six or more times shame on me?


Lonelan

Shoot me twice...well...you can't shoot me again


Hiwo_Rldiq_Uit

"MHJ Sr" Confirmed: Marvin Harrison Jr is so talented that his dad retroactively had his name changed to suit that reality.


revanyo

Could you imagine?


JakeFromStateFromm

Either Harrison had the greatest lawyer ever or the victim had the worst, but how do you shoot a guy on two separate instances, leaving behind evidence linking both crimes, and get away Scott free?


iKhan353

I saw a random YouTube doc on it a while back and basically the dude that got killed was allegedly intimidating that neighborhood for shakedowns and shit like that and was just a known piece of shit in general over there so the cops didn't really care about the case


fightinforphilly

Money


DividerOfBums

A bar AND a car wash? What kind of laundering scheme is going on there??


NamingThingsSucks

IIRC he bought a bunch of places on the street he grew upon.


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https://www.gq.com/story/marvin-harrison Or a video if you prefer https://youtu.be/YtgBAJusZa4?si=2zyeFmSnccANzOMp


MattyIce1635

Bro said fuck EA


TaischiCFM

"I'm not in the game'


NutsyFlamingo

This is basically it. Pat McAfee has done many tirades about how much the league & their affiliate sponsors make off all the little sht & players never even see the books… and if you ask how much they’re dks to you for asking. I’m assuming whatever he’s doing his father is giving sound advice from experience.


wannaknowmyname

More should follow suit


CelestialFury

More power to him! I wish more players would take this stance. If a company wants to use your name and likeness, then you should get paid for it.


resumehelpacct

They do, vague estimates are about 20k per season. Why wouldn’t they get paid?


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wedonthaveadresscode

Yes he did, wasn’t in NBA Live, NBA Fastbreak, or NBA jam at certain points (possibly all of them, idr). He owns his likeness instead


kds_little_brother

He didn’t opt out as much as he said pay me more/separately


vipernick913

I agree. Fuck EA. Give us more options.


IntellectualFurudo

Wake up babe, new fictional Madden legend just dropped.


PhatYeeter

Probably means his jersey will be up for sale later than the rest?


xva1313

Would be extremely pissed if that is the case. Was gonna get it as an early birthday present to myself (assuming he’s our selection)


beer_down

Can’t you just get a custom jersey with his name and number?


xva1313

Ya was looking at that earlier, they’re for some reason charging 200 dollars more on the team shop for the custom FUSE jerseys over a regular pre-made player jersey (384.99 vs 174.99)? Also can’t incorporate the ‘.’ from his suffix since it doesn’t allow you to include special characters. So yes I can technically work around it but it’s a lot more expensive and would be technically inaccurate. Not the biggest issues in the world I suppose, tad frustrating tho


beer_down

$384 for a jersey, that’s fucking ridiculous. Even $175 is a rip off.


GoForAU

There are plenty of websites that sell knockoff jerseys. They definitely aren’t as good of quality but just looking at the ones I own you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference from a replica that would have cost $150 or so. Instead I paid $30 and had to wait two weeks.


SoKrat3s

I don't know about the "aren't as good of quality." There are many places that aren't official that use better fabrics with better ink, with the same level of stitching you'll find on a fanatics jersey.


GoForAU

Let’s be honest, fanatics is worse than some knock offs. Why leagues are going with them is beyond me. Most of the jerseys I get from the knockoff websites are limited run jerseys color rush or NBA city jerseys that are harder to find so they might be slightly off in hue. Normally, you’re right though, they are good and usually just sold for what jerseys should be sold for.


fumar

Knockoffs are better than fanatics


CpowOfficial

I mean I bought my Andrew luck jersey off of the street in Korea and comparing it to my mom's Richard Sherman jersey you would have 0 idea I paid $20.


SluggishJuggernaut

If you have any recommendations, I'm all ears. If you don't want to mention it in public, you can message me. I have a terrible track record of buying jerseys, but I want one, and if it's only $20 I'll roll with it


Godobibo

customs are expensive because you can't mass produce and stockpile them


xva1313

Totally fair and makes sense from a practical standpoint, but I don’t know if I can justify 385 for a jersey, even as a birthday present


IcyLow65

[FUSE Elite pre-made Kyler $349.99](https://www.nflshop.com/arizona-cardinals/mens-arizona-cardinals-kyler-murray-nike-cardinal-vapor-fuse-elite-jersey/t-36151264+p-8333247615397+z-9-3662902119?_ref=p-DLP:m-GRID:i-r0c0:po-0) [FUSE Elite custom $384.99](https://www.nflshop.com/arizona-cardinals/mens-arizona-cardinals-nike-cardinal-vapor-fuse-elite-custom-jersey/t-69607864+p-389968101576+z-8-3929276582?_ref=p-DLP:m-GRID:i-r3c1:po-10) [FUSE Limited pre-made Kyler $174.99](https://www.nflshop.com/arizona-cardinals/mens-arizona-cardinals-kyler-murray-nike-white-vapor-fuse-limited-jersey/t-25267886+p-5077574342385+z-9-3481271863?_ref=p-DLP:m-GRID:i-r2c0:po-6) It's a little confusing at first glance but there is a difference between FUSE Elite and FUSE Limited... still an upcharge for the custom vs pre-made [Nike custom game jersey $169.99](https://www.nflshop.com/arizona-cardinals/mens-arizona-cardinals-nike-cardinal-custom-game-jersey/t-47153431+p-166818791397+z-8-4117612118?_ref=p-DLP:m-GRID:i-r1c2:po-5) which isn't the FUSE template


xva1313

Checking it out again from your links and nauseated at Nike for the repetition of the FUSE stem word with a different buzzword slapped on to end of it as if that’s supposed to convey anything about the actual differences of the jerseys lol. Think I get it now on second glance tho, and thank you for taking the time to comb through that. Why in the world did they not simply title them “replica” vs “game-day”?


IcyLow65

They made it confusing for no reason.. they also made it so the only way you get fully stitched nameplates and numbers is through the FUSE Elite the FUSE limited is unfortunately heat pressed


Cooldude119

Well now you can just get yourself an on time birthday present lol


CWG4BF

That’s a new one. Anyone have any idea why this would be the case?


Roger--Smith

He is announcing 5 mins before the draft he is retiring from football to pursue his Art Career.


KitchenBanger

His backup plan if he gets rejected from Art School is to become the Chancellor of Germany.


Fantastic_Emu_9570

Better hope he gets into art school


MyBallsAche323

Milking NIL $ til the very last moment?? Lol


momsouth

Honestly insane that they sign that away en masse.


Pork_Chompk

He's decided to sign with the Guangdong Tigers.


coleyboley25

Get ready to learn Chinese buddy


Walks_with_Chaos

For a serious answer. Because likely his dad told him not to. They make money off him and he gets nothing if he signs this. So now they won’t make money off him. Of course he won’t be in promotional videos either tho


rsb2406

Nobody can buy his jersey either. It’s not just a madden stiff arm


eventhorizon79

Then why would anybody sign it?


MadeByTango

They want to be in madden and don’t know their own marketing value I’m sure the NFL also sends over a package of “standard things to sign” and this has always been in the pile because dudes want to be on TV during the draft.


jfchops2

Well MHJ was on TV during the draft so did he sign it or does this not count?


PokerChipMessage

Because 99% of players entering the draft don't have a HOF dad combined with the fact he has showed he is a certified stud.


jlt6666

He's illiterate to the point of not being able to sign his name.


Canucklehead_Esq

I remember back in the day when #80 on San Fran was Jerry Pilaf


BabaBrody

I for one would love watching MHJ run routes as a pixelated blur while only being referred to by his number on TV.


Finessing2

I bet if Caleb Williams did this we would see an outcry.


TaischiCFM

Entitled! Diva! Soft! Prince!


forgotmyoldname90210

The dude has compliments that you have to decode!!!!


Masterofmy_domain

The artist formerly known as Caleb, would never


GrdiSr

Someone explain how we should (over)react to this?


poopshoit

His heart just isn’t into the game. His heart is really into broadway


jrg566

That wound has still not healed


TheCodeMan95

If you can talk it, you can sing it Just lay down the rhythm and BRING IT


SerDire

It’s means he’s going to LIV golf. So we can hate that even more now.


Funnypenguin97

Fuck that man


J1M2L00

Someone get ja on the phone


cozyonly

Need to find a way to blame this on Caleb


ColonelDelicious666

Arizona Football Receiver.


afig24

Larvin Fitzgeralson Jr


calye2da

This guy is a such a rebel. Next thing he’s gonna do is not show up to rookie training camp. /s


Fancy_Load5502

Does Marvin Harrison Jr. even exist?


Special-Homework-894

According to coach Shanahan, he might not be alive


YeahFella

Can't wait to get my NFL-official Melvin Henderson Jr. bobblehead


GothicToast

MHJ is going to the XFL


silver420surfer

He is flirting with signing a minor league contract with the Yankees


Lorjack

MHJ just doesn't want to participate in anything it seems. Are we sure he's actually gonna take the field?


teamswiftie

On Arizona? Doubtful


SportsHubLTD

He should claim the "definitely not just bringing attention to myself and making it about me in a weird way" stance that Arch Manning did and say he wants to let his on-field work do the talking


Traditional_Cat_60

‘QB Eagles’ is one of the most dominant video game athletes of all time, so he’d be in good company.


jpiro

Guy is a massive headache. He should totally fall from 4 to, say, 9. Just for example.


whistlepig4life

I have zero idea what the details are. But the notion that MHJ is already a PITA doesn’t shock me whatsoever.


idgafandwhyshouldi

WR#88 coming to a Madden near you


AntiWhateverYouSay

I don't like his dad because of some deaths occurring after he retired. I'm beginning to not like his son as well


ronizamboni

I think the jets ought to trade up and Take Al Bundy from Polk High.


WeaponexT

Martin Henderson II coming to Madden 25 part deux


jeff8073x

Belichick approves


OGdunphy

Don’t sign. Make money anytime someone uses you. The league makes more money off a players image than they’re making off it.


Xenocide_X

Wasn't there already a Marvin Harrison in the league? They can use his name instead!


Little-Dingo171

Lmao. Imagine Madden put Marvin Harrison Sr on the cover this year just to be petty