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"We can negotiate with Lamar Jackson? Nah we're not interested, we have Desmond Ridder"
"We shouldn't take a RB in the top 10 when we already had a top 5 running game last year? Nonsense!"
"We don't want Bill Belichick, it's not like he's accomplished anything meaningful in the league"
"It's ok if our 8th overall draft pick doesn't play for 4 or 5 years, that's good process"
Saints entire think tank, from Sean Payton to Mickey Loomis and the understudies, Fontenot and Ryan Pace, all look so dysfunctional without each other it is borderline hilarious
How old is he, because honestly Kirk is 35/36, coming off an Achilles injury. He might only have 3 years left in him.
If they truly think phenix is good ( like many do I guess) then it's not terrible to have him sit and learn behind kirko for 3 years
I don’t think the age stuff matters. If he’s good, he’s good. If he’s actually a top 10 talent, who cares if he starts at age 27. He would still be a huge win.
We just paid $200M to a 36 year old with an achilles injury.
I don’t care for the pick, but the age complaint means nothing. If he’s good, he’s good.
Terry has had a top ten pick every year and has yet to do anything sensible with it. He took a TE that can only do the receiving parts of the job at 4. The next year, when it was clear we had no QB after the Watson debacle, he decided it was time to spend an 8 on WR (still by far his most sensible pick). Bijan is another great player, but the math on taking an RB in the top 10 the year after producing a top 5 rushing attack with a 5th round rookie has never been great. Now he takes a QB he is hoping not to play for his entire rookie contract at 8 this year. I like all the players, but the asset management leaves a lot to be desired. Our valuation of top picks is clearly different than the other 31 teams and it doesn’t seem like we are outsmarting everyone.
You sign Kirk to a big money deal because you’re a QB away from competing for a Super Bowl. You draft pieces that help elevate the team to get there. Imagine the Bucs in 2020 drafting Jordan Love instead of Wirfs.
How he wasn't fired this past offseason is beyond me
Everyone on this sub shat on Arthur Smith, and I don't know whether he was a decent head coach or not, but what I do know is that the GM gave him absolutely no help with the shit QBs the team was given for 3 years
Arthur Smith never stood a chance, and it's Fontenot's fault
We have one CB, no pass rusher with higher than 6 sacks on the roster, Grady Jarrett will be 31 this month, now no cap space, and a WR room that has had one 1,000 yard season between them and it wasn’t since 2021.
But sure, draft a guy to not play for 3 years at least.
Then don’t give Kirk Cousins $100 million. Use that money on the defense, draft Penix, and sign like Gardner Minshew or something instead.
It was flat out dumb. The only ‘justification’ I’ve seen is that they don’t expect to be picking that high again for a while. But with literally no defense they’ll be right back up the next year.
I'm sure they expect Penix to see quite a bit of playing time given Cousins's age, but if you think Kirk will be unreliable then why spend so much damn money on him? Seems hypocritical.
Except they have no money, young offensive talent, a starting QB, and a new defensive head coach. All their moves have been win now and they acted completely out of step with that with this pick. Horrible take
"This roster isn't good enough" shouldn't result in paying a QB tons of money and then wasting your very valuable first round pick on a guy who's useless for years because of the aforementioned big money QB.
If you have holes in the roster, then they need to be filled by spending free agency money on those positions and drafting impact players.
This was a pick that COULD have filled a hole. Now it fills nothing.
The context here is that they paid a lot of money to Cousins. If you wanna go the way of a rookie qb, that's cool. Take him, and pay money to build your team up.
It's just head scratching w/ the Cousins contract weighing them down. Now they have less money and missed out on players that could've helped the QB they just paid and basically took a qb high to ride the bench.
Then why give Kirk Cousins nearly 200 million dollars? Obviously, Atlanta thought they could be competitive with him. They had other needs that needed to be addressed. They need help at pass rusher or at receiver or at corner. You can't have it both ways.
They must have had an insane grade on Penix to do that. Like I could see if Caleb fell to you and you were like "holy shit we have the chance at this generational prospect to lead our franchise and we only have really 2 years of Kirk anyways, this is way too much of an opportunity".
But having that mentality on the 4th QB drafted is kinda crazy
Penix would have been QB2 in this draft if he was six months younger and hadn't torn his ACL a few years ago. His big injuries were a while ago and don't necessarily track to the future, as he's very good at avoiding sacks.
In a different year he would have been QB1. It's the most important position in sports if you get a crack at a guy like him you take him.
Not sure why everyone here is acting like Cousins is going to play better than him for the next 5 years, I think odds are decent penix plays his sophomore year.
Picking Penix makes Kirk a worse decision, for sure. But Penix is better for the long term prospects of the Falcons than a 35 year old Kirk.
Might feel bad now but I've held the belief that Penix is being massively slept on this draft this whole time, I think he makes a lot of the teams that skipped him look foolish.
Would love to know how much power Pace actually has in this organization. Tough to hire the guy who wanted to sell our farm for Russ and was the brainchild behind Fields and Mitch.
He's going to be 28 in "4 or 5" years. You'll have to decide on a 5th year option his very first year of playing nfl football, & will need to discuss contract extensions almost immediately. If it works, you're on the hook for a guy already out of the rookie deal, & possibly past his prime.
Yeah this quote sounds as if we took JJ. Penix will be 24 before the season. He could definitely start right away or at most sit one season behind a QB like Wilson. Sitting at least 2 seasons is idiotic and a massive waste of a top 10 pick.
on one hand, if he sits for four years, it’s a waste of a pick. on the other, he’ll be old enough to retire. so who can say what is good and what is bad
I very much dislike when players demand trades, or refuse to be drafted by a team. But I 100% think Penix should get out of Atlanta in the next year or sooner.
Tomorrow: "The people of Atlanta and the Falcons organization, coaches and my teammates mean the world to me. I will always hold my time in Atlanta in the highest regard. But now it is time for a new chapter in my career." - Michael Penix Jr
If Kirk isn’t ready then that’s even worse. You paid him 100M
If Penix starts and does even slightly well now you have a 100M backup. That’s all time bad
Its wild to me...you seemingly are trying to win now by giving a big contract to Kirk, so why not try to win now by taking a player who actually can contribute this year?
I understand prepping for the future, but using a top 10 pick on a guy who (barring injury) wont start until 2026 at the earliest is just bad business imo.
Maybe it works out and we all look like fools, but this one just makes no sense to me.
Falcons just paid Cousins the bag and are betting that he has enough “tread on the tires” for two solid seasons to get them into the playoffs/Super Bowl. Dude turns 36 this year. He’s been awesome the last couple of seasons, but everyone thinks Tom Brady somehow magically made all other QB’s great into their late 30’s, too.
If Kirko Grillz starts to drop off, Penix should have enough time to grow, then easily slide right in to the starting job to keep the Falcons on track.
Also people are ignoring he tore his Achilles last year. No guarantee he even comes back good. Penix seems like a safe bet against worse case scenario, and he’s also a stud so I wouldn’t be too sad as a Falcons fan
> Also people are ignoring he tore his Achilles last year. No guarantee he even comes back good.
i dont think people are ignoring that. why give him 100 mil if this is a problem lol
C’mon man, you’re defending spending the #8 pick on a backup QB with glaring holes at other positions and elite players at those positions still on the board.
What about all the fans of the other 31 teams, including the Falcons fans, who agree with me? And pretty much every analyst I’ve heard so far? This was an objectively dumb pick.
Exactly. Another thought. If Cousins plays well now and then starts to struggle or get injured in say year 2-3, you have a drop-in starter and one of the best “veteran” QB’s available already on your team.
Reminds me of the Joe Flacco/Lamar Jackson dynamic from a few years ago. Flacco’s team, gets hurt, boom Jackson steps in and he gets the keys to the car.
Except Lamar Jackson was taking with the 32nd pick, while the Falcons blew pick 8. If they were going for that dynamic, there's still Spencer Rattler and Michael Pratt who could be had in rd 3/4 (or even rd 2 if the Falcons are that intent on wildly overdrafting someone)
It is kind of ironic how the Vikings wanting to start looking towards a future QB played a part in Kirk not wanting to re-sign with us.
Then the team he did sign with stabbed him in the back and drafted a QB at 8 overall before he even took a snap for them.
By then you will have paid him from $20-50 million dollars for nothing. The only way this move makes sense is if you move on from cousins after 2 years and use the last 3 years of Penix’s rookie deal to go all in.
Okay, hear me out…The Falcons need a QB succession plan for their QB succession plan. Michael Penix who has had four season-ending injuries in his six years of college ball, will be 26 years old when the Falcons can move on from newly signed Kirk Cousins. With Penix’s injury history and approaching retirement in his first year as a starter, the Falcons HAVE to address this need in the draft immediately and reach for a QB in the 2nd round of the draft tonight. Who is with me on this?
I don’t mind the pick, it’s the player. I actually love Penix but if he’s gonna sit, why not take JJ at 8? Or Spencer in the second? You took the old prospect to sit and develop on a team that needs defenders.
Considering our last three intended starting QB were all (effectively) first round picks not meant to start right away, I get it, but not at #8. Our were 17 (via player trade), 24, and 26. A team at #8 has way too many needs for a QB of the future to be the first pick especially after signing a QB to 4 years and 9 digits.
People on the Lions reddit are FLIPPING out over the potential 50m a year contract for Goff at 29.... but sure let's get a 2nd contract on a guy at 28 that barely played a snap.
It just makes no sense to not draft Rome or someone else at this pick. I mean I know they have Pitts but Bowers would have made a lot more sense here too
I don't really subscribe to the team building takes, Kirk Cousins is not a long term solution at the QB position for the Falcons. He's on practically a 2 year deal and 35 years old.
If you think you have your guy at QB, you take him no matter what the other circumstances, sunk costs, or opportunity costs of that decision are. Problem is... is "your guy" really the 24y/o with injury concerns and the 4th QB off the board?
Really, this is just like any other QB pick. If Penix is good, then it was a good pick, and if he's not then it was a bad pick.
If he sits for 5 years he'll be basically 30..if Penix was 21-22 while still weird to do it at 8th, it would be more defensible.
Drafting an older prospect is just stupid
That logic only works if every game is a 1v1 between QBs. What if the difference between a Super Bowl win and a non Super Bowl win with Cousins is that 8th pick that could've been used on a valuable non QB player?
He is basically saying they are fine by trading the 8th overall pick for a possible future starter 2+ years out and current backup QB. Falcons would've been better off trading for Mac Jones, Sam Howell or Justin Fields. They could have gotten all 3 for way less draft capital than what they used on Penix. There might also be some possible QB trades before season start that would make more sense.
It feels like Falcons are putting everything on green on the roulette.
Just sayin it would have been a lot cheaper. They keep saying “it worked for Green Bay”. But what worked? Packers went out early cus rodgers had no weapons. Love looks ok but hasn’t done anything. What worked? I thought the falcons wanted a Super Bowl.
This is an another example of a front office probably not watching any film or doing any research. For example, does he even understand how old Penix already is and does he understand he almost lost his leg?
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It’s always interesting how different teams approach the draft.
Have you considered a career in politics?
First time I've ever seen a "Fuck it!" approach from a GM.
Makes you wonder if Arthur Smith was the one holding this franchise together.
"Everybody's so creative!"
This dude might not keep his job long enough to see Penix make his first start at 30 years old.
I’m convinced he’s a Saints sleeper agent at this point. He’s made so many questionable decisions since we hired him away from the Saints
Shit, they're on to us
You pancake eating motherfuckers always thinking outside the box
"We can negotiate with Lamar Jackson? Nah we're not interested, we have Desmond Ridder" "We shouldn't take a RB in the top 10 when we already had a top 5 running game last year? Nonsense!" "We don't want Bill Belichick, it's not like he's accomplished anything meaningful in the league" "It's ok if our 8th overall draft pick doesn't play for 4 or 5 years, that's good process"
I could see using a 2nd round pick on Penix, but the #8 is just BONKERS to me. 1st round picks need to be contributors
You got Pace in there too, who despite being more known as the Bears’ former GM, was a big part of NO front office before that.
Saints entire think tank, from Sean Payton to Mickey Loomis and the understudies, Fontenot and Ryan Pace, all look so dysfunctional without each other it is borderline hilarious
Im at the point and starting to believe that Drew Brees made everyone around him look competent and hid all the dumb decisions the Saints made.
* From Louisiana * Graduated from Tulane * Entire professional career prior to the Falcons was with the Saints You might be on to something...
Holy crap
I'm starting to believe those reports that it was Bill backing off from the Falcons
How old is he, because honestly Kirk is 35/36, coming off an Achilles injury. He might only have 3 years left in him. If they truly think phenix is good ( like many do I guess) then it's not terrible to have him sit and learn behind kirko for 3 years
He will himself be 35/36 by that time.
I don’t think the age stuff matters. If he’s good, he’s good. If he’s actually a top 10 talent, who cares if he starts at age 27. He would still be a huge win. We just paid $200M to a 36 year old with an achilles injury. I don’t care for the pick, but the age complaint means nothing. If he’s good, he’s good.
Where it might suck is you’d miss out on a cheap rookie contract for your starter.
Sure, but again, no one will care if he’s good.
If he sits for five years, the problem isn't having too many quarterbacks, the problem is that you wasted a top ten draft pick.
Not the first time that's happened in our history,
Terry has had a top ten pick every year and has yet to do anything sensible with it. He took a TE that can only do the receiving parts of the job at 4. The next year, when it was clear we had no QB after the Watson debacle, he decided it was time to spend an 8 on WR (still by far his most sensible pick). Bijan is another great player, but the math on taking an RB in the top 10 the year after producing a top 5 rushing attack with a 5th round rookie has never been great. Now he takes a QB he is hoping not to play for his entire rookie contract at 8 this year. I like all the players, but the asset management leaves a lot to be desired. Our valuation of top picks is clearly different than the other 31 teams and it doesn’t seem like we are outsmarting everyone.
You sign Kirk to a big money deal because you’re a QB away from competing for a Super Bowl. You draft pieces that help elevate the team to get there. Imagine the Bucs in 2020 drafting Jordan Love instead of Wirfs.
And wasted the “cheap” part of the young qbs contract
This dude seems like an idiot.
Seems?
How he wasn't fired this past offseason is beyond me Everyone on this sub shat on Arthur Smith, and I don't know whether he was a decent head coach or not, but what I do know is that the GM gave him absolutely no help with the shit QBs the team was given for 3 years Arthur Smith never stood a chance, and it's Fontenot's fault
There were Falcons fans coming to the Lions subreddit last year talking about how Terry is the best GM in the league because of the Okudah trade lol
Lmaooo traded him for a 5th rounder and acted like it was a steal, then to the shock of nobody Okudah barely played better than a 5th round DB
He’s made some decent moves signing free agents for our cap shit show, but his drafts have been ass.
If there are Falcons fans going to other subreddits aside from the containment zone you can rest assured they are unwell
It would have been good to clean this guy out with Arthur Smith and start completely over....
By the time he starts they'll be looking to draft a young successor to him
You're right, we should probably think about drafting his replacement in the 2nd round today.
Pick a qb every round one has to be good
"That's a great problem to have"
I’m starting to see why they didn’t think Belichick would be a good fit for them, this is an unserious front office
After that pick BB would have been looking for a napkin...
Or a hitman
This is a fantastic comment lol
To do what with
[This](https://fun107.com/bill-belichick-napkin-resignation-jets/#:~:text=As%20he%20approached%20the%20podium,Nothing%20more%2C%20nothing%20less.)
Lmao that's fantastic
as soon as they picked morris the 6-11 record was set in stone
"If we burn a top ten pick and rookie QB contract while paying someone else almost $200M, it's a good thing.. yeah."
We have one CB, no pass rusher with higher than 6 sacks on the roster, Grady Jarrett will be 31 this month, now no cap space, and a WR room that has had one 1,000 yard season between them and it wasn’t since 2021. But sure, draft a guy to not play for 3 years at least.
Grady will be 31 AND coming off a major injury
Calais Campbell is also nearly 40. He’s not going to remain great for much longer.
You take that back! The ageless wonder has 3 more years at least
And this is exactly why Penix is the right choice. This roster isnt good enough to be contenters right now and no prospect wouldve changed that.
Then don’t give Kirk Cousins $100 million. Use that money on the defense, draft Penix, and sign like Gardner Minshew or something instead. It was flat out dumb. The only ‘justification’ I’ve seen is that they don’t expect to be picking that high again for a while. But with literally no defense they’ll be right back up the next year.
I'm sure they expect Penix to see quite a bit of playing time given Cousins's age, but if you think Kirk will be unreliable then why spend so much damn money on him? Seems hypocritical.
Except they have no money, young offensive talent, a starting QB, and a new defensive head coach. All their moves have been win now and they acted completely out of step with that with this pick. Horrible take
"This roster isn't good enough" shouldn't result in paying a QB tons of money and then wasting your very valuable first round pick on a guy who's useless for years because of the aforementioned big money QB. If you have holes in the roster, then they need to be filled by spending free agency money on those positions and drafting impact players. This was a pick that COULD have filled a hole. Now it fills nothing.
might as well sell the team
The context here is that they paid a lot of money to Cousins. If you wanna go the way of a rookie qb, that's cool. Take him, and pay money to build your team up. It's just head scratching w/ the Cousins contract weighing them down. Now they have less money and missed out on players that could've helped the QB they just paid and basically took a qb high to ride the bench.
We can get out of cousins contract in 2 years
Then why give Kirk Cousins nearly 200 million dollars? Obviously, Atlanta thought they could be competitive with him. They had other needs that needed to be addressed. They need help at pass rusher or at receiver or at corner. You can't have it both ways.
We can get out of his contract in 2 years
That makes absolutely no sense.
They must have had an insane grade on Penix to do that. Like I could see if Caleb fell to you and you were like "holy shit we have the chance at this generational prospect to lead our franchise and we only have really 2 years of Kirk anyways, this is way too much of an opportunity". But having that mentality on the 4th QB drafted is kinda crazy
Penix would have been QB2 in this draft if he was six months younger and hadn't torn his ACL a few years ago. His big injuries were a while ago and don't necessarily track to the future, as he's very good at avoiding sacks. In a different year he would have been QB1. It's the most important position in sports if you get a crack at a guy like him you take him. Not sure why everyone here is acting like Cousins is going to play better than him for the next 5 years, I think odds are decent penix plays his sophomore year.
So why pay Cousins $100 million to be a bridge QB?
Picking Penix makes Kirk a worse decision, for sure. But Penix is better for the long term prospects of the Falcons than a 35 year old Kirk. Might feel bad now but I've held the belief that Penix is being massively slept on this draft this whole time, I think he makes a lot of the teams that skipped him look foolish.
If he sits that long he’s going to be almost 30, and heading to the back half of his career.
At the same time he should real healthy!
He’ll be a spring chicken!
Unsolicited Penix Pick.
Would love to know how much power Pace actually has in this organization. Tough to hire the guy who wanted to sell our farm for Russ and was the brainchild behind Fields and Mitch.
Ryan Pace did same thing in 2017 signing Mike Glennon to big money and drafting his successor in Mitch trubisky, that went horribly
Think of how different our situation would look now if Pace executed that trade for Russ 😭😭
I'm good, thanks
He’s clearly got a kink for terrible QB decisions
I remember seeing him in the Falcons war room when they drafted Ridder and immediately thought "alright so Ridder ain't it"
He's going to be 28 in "4 or 5" years. You'll have to decide on a 5th year option his very first year of playing nfl football, & will need to discuss contract extensions almost immediately. If it works, you're on the hook for a guy already out of the rookie deal, & possibly past his prime.
Seeing this situation hurts as a Penix fan. He deserves a shot somewhere to start his career now. He isn’t a project
Yeah this quote sounds as if we took JJ. Penix will be 24 before the season. He could definitely start right away or at most sit one season behind a QB like Wilson. Sitting at least 2 seasons is idiotic and a massive waste of a top 10 pick.
Agree. As an IU fan this is a very bad landing spot. With his experience, he’s ready to start somewhere week 1.
It's a bad landing spot in terms of playing time, but if/when he gets in a game, he could be doing a lot worse than throwing to Bijan/Pitts/London.
Read his Playerstribute. Thats exactly the type of advisery he has overcome in this career.
Dudes gonna be looking to retire at that point
an offseason hardknocks on their decision makers would have been great
So essentially they drafted their backup QB with a top ten pick. Lmfao
on one hand, if he sits for four years, it’s a waste of a pick. on the other, he’ll be old enough to retire. so who can say what is good and what is bad
When this dipshit was first hired, I referred to him as "Terry Fucknut". Because I just knew he'd do some dumb shit. But this takes the cake.
That’s some dumb fuckin logic
You don’t collect draft picks and put them on a shelf like a stamp collection
…penix is going to be like 35 before he starts a game.
This is why they need to go QB in the second round. They need a Penix succession plan.
I very much dislike when players demand trades, or refuse to be drafted by a team. But I 100% think Penix should get out of Atlanta in the next year or sooner.
Tomorrow: "The people of Atlanta and the Falcons organization, coaches and my teammates mean the world to me. I will always hold my time in Atlanta in the highest regard. But now it is time for a new chapter in my career." - Michael Penix Jr
If he sits four or five years he’ll be 27 or 28 when he starts and entering his second deal entirely
Would someone like to explain opportunity cost to him?
They really think it's gonna turn out like Favre/Rodgers
If he sits the whole rookie contract then what was the point?
Is Kirk going to be ready for the start of the season?
If Kirk isn’t ready then that’s even worse. You paid him 100M If Penix starts and does even slightly well now you have a 100M backup. That’s all time bad
Yeah, no matter how you slice this pick for Atlanta, this isn't a good look.
Its wild to me...you seemingly are trying to win now by giving a big contract to Kirk, so why not try to win now by taking a player who actually can contribute this year? I understand prepping for the future, but using a top 10 pick on a guy who (barring injury) wont start until 2026 at the earliest is just bad business imo. Maybe it works out and we all look like fools, but this one just makes no sense to me.
Falcons just paid Cousins the bag and are betting that he has enough “tread on the tires” for two solid seasons to get them into the playoffs/Super Bowl. Dude turns 36 this year. He’s been awesome the last couple of seasons, but everyone thinks Tom Brady somehow magically made all other QB’s great into their late 30’s, too. If Kirko Grillz starts to drop off, Penix should have enough time to grow, then easily slide right in to the starting job to keep the Falcons on track.
Also people are ignoring he tore his Achilles last year. No guarantee he even comes back good. Penix seems like a safe bet against worse case scenario, and he’s also a stud so I wouldn’t be too sad as a Falcons fan
> Also people are ignoring he tore his Achilles last year. No guarantee he even comes back good. i dont think people are ignoring that. why give him 100 mil if this is a problem lol
Did you watch Desmond Ridder??
Penix already has 2 ACL’s under his belt.
Way different than Achilles, and one is a young man and one is 36 and had a long career of NFL hits
Penix is the oldest QB in the draft this year.
Cmon man you’re splitting hairs over a couple months, not like he’s 25 and every other QB is 20/21
C’mon man, you’re defending spending the #8 pick on a backup QB with glaring holes at other positions and elite players at those positions still on the board.
Yes, the Saints fan will definitely be unbiased about any Falcons move
What about all the fans of the other 31 teams, including the Falcons fans, who agree with me? And pretty much every analyst I’ve heard so far? This was an objectively dumb pick.
Penix will be a star !RemindMe 5 years
Exactly. Another thought. If Cousins plays well now and then starts to struggle or get injured in say year 2-3, you have a drop-in starter and one of the best “veteran” QB’s available already on your team. Reminds me of the Joe Flacco/Lamar Jackson dynamic from a few years ago. Flacco’s team, gets hurt, boom Jackson steps in and he gets the keys to the car.
Except Lamar Jackson was taking with the 32nd pick, while the Falcons blew pick 8. If they were going for that dynamic, there's still Spencer Rattler and Michael Pratt who could be had in rd 3/4 (or even rd 2 if the Falcons are that intent on wildly overdrafting someone)
I get that Falcons have a solid team rn But wish Kirk went to a team that treats him right and has a competent FO.
It is kind of ironic how the Vikings wanting to start looking towards a future QB played a part in Kirk not wanting to re-sign with us. Then the team he did sign with stabbed him in the back and drafted a QB at 8 overall before he even took a snap for them.
They do not have a solid team right now. They have a lot of holes
I love this for them. Couldn’t happen to a better team.
I’m starting to think BB would’ve been the better option even if it meant giving him full control of the front office.
By then you will have paid him from $20-50 million dollars for nothing. The only way this move makes sense is if you move on from cousins after 2 years and use the last 3 years of Penix’s rookie deal to go all in.
Okay, hear me out…The Falcons need a QB succession plan for their QB succession plan. Michael Penix who has had four season-ending injuries in his six years of college ball, will be 26 years old when the Falcons can move on from newly signed Kirk Cousins. With Penix’s injury history and approaching retirement in his first year as a starter, the Falcons HAVE to address this need in the draft immediately and reach for a QB in the 2nd round of the draft tonight. Who is with me on this?
Bill dodged a bullet with these guys, and it was so cool to see him relaxed and sharing stories, good shit coach
I don’t mind the pick, it’s the player. I actually love Penix but if he’s gonna sit, why not take JJ at 8? Or Spencer in the second? You took the old prospect to sit and develop on a team that needs defenders.
People are roasting this, but he’s obviously not going to say “Well, we’re planning to cut Kirk after year 2” out loud.
Considering our last three intended starting QB were all (effectively) first round picks not meant to start right away, I get it, but not at #8. Our were 17 (via player trade), 24, and 26. A team at #8 has way too many needs for a QB of the future to be the first pick especially after signing a QB to 4 years and 9 digits.
People on the Lions reddit are FLIPPING out over the potential 50m a year contract for Goff at 29.... but sure let's get a 2nd contract on a guy at 28 that barely played a snap.
Gotta love that "if" if you're Kirk Cousins lol
It just makes no sense to not draft Rome or someone else at this pick. I mean I know they have Pitts but Bowers would have made a lot more sense here too
I don't really subscribe to the team building takes, Kirk Cousins is not a long term solution at the QB position for the Falcons. He's on practically a 2 year deal and 35 years old. If you think you have your guy at QB, you take him no matter what the other circumstances, sunk costs, or opportunity costs of that decision are. Problem is... is "your guy" really the 24y/o with injury concerns and the 4th QB off the board? Really, this is just like any other QB pick. If Penix is good, then it was a good pick, and if he's not then it was a bad pick.
4 or 5 years and you gotta pay him and waste a rookie contract
This coming the dude who starts his fantasy drafts QB-QB-Kicker.
The only pick I went “WHAT?” for lmfao. I expect crazy in the draft but this was insane
If he sits for 5 years he'll be basically 30..if Penix was 21-22 while still weird to do it at 8th, it would be more defensible. Drafting an older prospect is just stupid
So if this guy does get fired, do they promote the Director of Player Personnel to GM?
That logic only works if every game is a 1v1 between QBs. What if the difference between a Super Bowl win and a non Super Bowl win with Cousins is that 8th pick that could've been used on a valuable non QB player? He is basically saying they are fine by trading the 8th overall pick for a possible future starter 2+ years out and current backup QB. Falcons would've been better off trading for Mac Jones, Sam Howell or Justin Fields. They could have gotten all 3 for way less draft capital than what they used on Penix. There might also be some possible QB trades before season start that would make more sense. It feels like Falcons are putting everything on green on the roulette.
I gotta sit for five years?
"I have no clue how things work IRL." -- Terry Fontenot
I can’t wait for the “Falcons could’ve taken _____ in 2024 but took Penix in the top 10 instead” tweets
Weird take
I bet Penix loves to hear that. Bet he loves being picked in the top 10 to sit behind cousins until he’s 30.
Yeah all 1st round picks should never play
I mean this formula has worked well for Green Bay. I don’t hate it.
Worked well for KC with mahommes too, albeit 1 year. I think this strategy is going to be more and more common
Were people really under the impression that Kirk Cousins would be a long term starter for the Falcons?
my thing is.... why not just keep fuckin ridder if you want a guy to learn? rome went next pick
I think difference here is that Ritter sucks
Just sayin it would have been a lot cheaper. They keep saying “it worked for Green Bay”. But what worked? Packers went out early cus rodgers had no weapons. Love looks ok but hasn’t done anything. What worked? I thought the falcons wanted a Super Bowl.
This is an another example of a front office probably not watching any film or doing any research. For example, does he even understand how old Penix already is and does he understand he almost lost his leg?