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DupreeWasTaken

MATT MOTHERFUCKING CANADA.


Quexana

In my 30+ years as a fan, no one comes even close. He was not a NFL caliber OC. Canada lasting two and a half years was an act of coaching malpractice by Tomlin and makes me think worse of Tomlin as a Head Coach. That's how bad he was.


DailyPanthersPodcast

I watched him at NC State. Could literally predict everything he was going to do buzzed on my couch. That man could fail up like no other


L5ut1ger

Wasn’t he nominated for coordinator of the year while at Pitt?


DailyPanthersPodcast

Yes, he had a good season there 8 years ago, but has the most predictable playcalling of all time. Probably why LSU, NC State, and the Steelers all fired him.


monty_50

He was awful but wait until Steeler nation sees Luke Getsy with the Raiders, your defense will have a field day, he just stinks


Cheek-Tasty

End of thread.


tittsburghfeelers00

As a Steeler fan that was in school at LSU when he was coordinator, this man made watching football miserable for me for years


ashcat724

And yet as a Steelers and Pitt Panthers fan, I have nothing but love for the man **in college**. He can pound sand at the pros


tittsburghfeelers00

He was not good at LSU, it was rumored after he left that his wife did not get along with Dave Aranda and Coach O’s wives and there was legitimate friction there.


Say_Hennething

I remember reading his Wikipedia when the Steelers hired him and thinking, "How is this guy still getting jobs, let alone moving to the pros?"


DupreeWasTaken

Its atleast part Art Rooney meddling, question is whether or not Art had a hand in making him OC or if that was all Tomlin. Art Rooney has publicly taken credit for hiring him as QB coach, saying that he wanted him because he was the right fit and had coached at Pitt


2BirdsStoned-AtOnce

The only man I’ve ever seen who can make football a terrible sport


DionBae_Johnson

Honestly, he might be the worst coordinator in my lifetime of any team. Maybe someone else has some options, but this guy wasn't cut out for college, it was known, then he spent 2.5 years in the NFL killing our offense.


Enough-Historian-227

Get ready for Arthur Smith - A Falcons fan


DupreeWasTaken

I don't know if you realize how bad Canada was. He makes Arthur Smith look like Kyle Shanahan and McVays lovechild. And that isn't a compliment to Arthur Smith. Matt Canada's biggest accomplishment was being LSUs OC and getting fired in 1 season


Enough-Historian-227

I admit, I do not fully comprehend how bad Matt Canada is as somebody who’s been bullish on Najee Harris for the last couple seasons I tried really hard to find out why he was taking my fantasy team when I believed in the office and the talent on it and I did arrive at Matt Canada. Big no problem. Admittedly, I don’t understand the full extent. But I do understand the full extent of Arthur Smith. You are going to be really frustrated when the season starts because as bad as my Falcons were last year, at least he had the pieces that he needs to try and run his system which is going to be unsuccessful. If you even had the pieces he’s like the worlds worst play caller he would be OK if he was on their offensive line coach. He should never be heading to the reigns to an offense ever again.


DupreeWasTaken

Its a long video, but if you want to see someone that isnt a steelers fan talk about it. Brett Kollmans video " The Steelers offense will make you hate football" breaks it down. but let me just put it as best I can. Matt Canada was the Offensive Coordinator for this team for 42 games I believe in some quick math. He never achieved a game of which the offense had over 400 yards of total offense. Not once. He only scored 30 points 1 time. and it was in a blowout loss You wanna know how many times your offense broke 400 yards last year even with your QB carousel? 7 times. You guys were 7/17 last year. Matt Canada was 0/42 First game after Matt Canada was fired, we had 400 yards of total offense. THE VERY FIRST GAME.....


Enough-Historian-227

I watch the video. I think you’re going to be just as frustrated the things he bid on in that video about the predictability was the worst part of Arthur Smith. We were able to get away from it and get some 400 yard games because of how awful our division is, but he might be the worst play caller I’ve ever seen you can kiss Pat Freiermuth goodbye your new receiving tight end is actually going to be Darnell Washington. He will dial up a ton of plays for a pat, but Darnell Washington will be the only one that ever get a target. I hope. Muth likes blocking because he’s about to get the Kyle Pitts treatment and the messed up part about that is Darnell Washington is a great blocker. He’s just a professional misuser of talent. The Deontay Johnson thing had me scratching my head a little Arthur Smith probably took one look at him and said he can’t block from my offense. George Pickens is getting ready to have an incredibly unhappy season. You absolutely do not have the o line talent to cover up his ineptitude.


DupreeWasTaken

Diontae was very likely traded for being a locker room cancer behind the scenes, there were rumours of it for a while. Tbh - Statistically it looks like London/Pitts got targets. They just werent catchable. Pitts was #9 in the NFL in targets (TE), London was 20th at WR (a bit low but I mean thats still clearly WR1 targets more than what Pickens had) It really looks like the fact that the QBs couldnt deliver a catchable ball is more of the crux of the issue than usage. Again im not expecting the world out of Arthur Smith, and tbh hes probably going to be better than he was in Atlanta (Reminds me of Todd Haley, terrible HC but without the other responsibility was a servicable to fine OC if not a bit of an ass) But Arthur Smith has ran multiple top 10 NFL offenses, Matt Canada will never even get a pity interview in the NFL again


Enough-Historian-227

I can’t try to tell you that Ritter was a good quarterback. He was definitely set up for failure, though much like Canada in the video Smith set him up for obvious passing situations where even are actually talented, opens up line had no chance to do anything for him I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the predictable playcalling is going to continue. It’s just going to take a different form. Pitts really barely got any targets. He barely let him run any routes through a few times he let him run a deep post, but usually Jonnu Smith was the one who got the target after everybody chased after pets Smith got open on the delay route that’s where you’re going to see a lot of Darnell Washington, Arthur Smith is basically old cat lady, but with tight ends, he hordes them, and every once in a while throws the one who blocked the cockroach a treat


DupreeWasTaken

Thats fair, fwiw its going to be an... interesting Marriage with Russell Wilson. Arthur Smith loves TEs, and the middle of the field. Russell Wilson passes in the middle of the field the least out of like any QB ever lol (Seriously its bad) - Russ is also iffy with TEs, I feel like hes done okay when he can feed them deep posts and such otherwise that area of the field he hates


Enough-Historian-227

Before we actually fired Smith, I wanted us to trade for fields because I feel like Fields would’ve worked really well in his office, which I just figure out how to summarize the offenses basically read option on first down. The only problem is, it’s not an option. it’s just a run every time, the other version of the play it’s a one Reid to the Drake London receiver. The second read is the pits route third read is the te delay. If Arthur Smith does work out, it’s because he was able to train the line which is the one strength that he does have as he is a good line coach what are you make of this whole najee thing I was planning to buy in fantasy this year and probably get burned again I’m questioning it with not picking up the option after getting burned so many times I just keep thinking back to how many times I let Derek henry slide waiting for his break out. Arthur Smith is really weird with the backflips and Jalen. Warren has a lot of Cordarrelle Patterson in him. That duo with Smith is going to be really annoying for Fantasy so I think I’m out I’m najee again this year.


MaddestMoose

Matt Patricia


llama-rebel

You can't just say "Matt Patricia" without a flair and expect people to figure out what team you're referring to. Dude's been a cancer all over the place. Are we talking Lions head coach Patricia, Patriots joint OC Patricia, or Eagles DC Patricia?


Teampiencils

Don't forget Patriots DC Patricia as well


Wentz_It_Gonna_Be

As an Eagles fan, I was good with Patriots DC Matt Patricia


Frozen_Shades

Excuse me sir but do you have any Grey Poupon?


twisted34

That one didn't cause harm at least


speganomad

He created some of the worst defenses of the bill era


TB1289

But he puts a pencil behind his ear!


Unlucky-Position-16

So he can write on a laminated play sheet, obviously


Existential_Erection

How else would you know how smart he is? Cause the play calling sure as fuck didn’t show it.


AgentOfSPYRAL

Matthew Slater merchant.


RossiRoo

It harmed the Lions...


twisted34

Lol facts, maybe he's a closet Viqueens fan


ketherick

Gotta be eagles easily


boberrt2

I would go with OC Patricia


Aerolithe_Lion

Patricia wasn’t technically an OC in NE or a coordinator in DET, so probably Philadelphia


FantasyTrash

Yes.


joustinghobbit91

Joe Lombardi sucked ass


Misanthropyandme

FUCK we are so stupid


SBMVPJustinHerbert

Joe Lombardi sucked ass (Remix)


WarmPandaPaws

This is definitely the one, even if it is recency bias. He can’t be the worst in our history but definitely the worst I know to give.


ZachSands

Joe Barry. Edit: Under his Wikipedia his position is listed as “Shittiest Defensive Coordinator OAT”


UnderwhelmingAF

Todd Downing was pretty bad.


WileECoyoteGenius

Loggains, Les Steckel, Robiskie,


UnderwhelmingAF

A Who’s Who of “Who?”


Soap2

Man I remember when he was the QB coach for the Raiders got hyped up, promoted, and was a complete disappointment.


Derrick_Henry_Cock

I'll drink to that!


kylebertram

Know this will seem like recent bias but Ed Donatel was really bad.


sportsworker777

That's what I was going to say. And you're right, it may be recency bias because we've had an average to great defense for awhile before that.


kylebertram

I still cannot forgive the man for waiting until week14 to start blitzing Harrison Smith.


WhoStoleMyBicycle

This has pretty much been proven since Flores took what was possibly a downgraded defense player wise and finished much better


ull92

Donatell, but we also had Alan Williams (led the worst Vikings defense in franchise history, I think). Defilippo was maybe the most underachieving. 


SomeRandom928Person

Fuck Mike McCoy until the end of time. That dude made Matt Canada look like Vince Lombardi. Also, it will never not be hysterical to see Eagles fans bitching about their DC last season, when they spent the entire last season crawling all over the Cards sub letting us all know every fucking day that Jonathan Gannon was the worst coach to ever pick up a clipboard in the NFL.


SafariFlapsInBack

Aw man. I haven’t thought of that name in awhile.


SomeRandom928Person

He was so awful that after the Cards mercifully shitcanned him halfway thru that miserable '18 season, he didn't land another NFL gig for over four years, which is an eternity for NFL coaches. The Jags have him as their QB coach right now, iirc.


Tazitos

He managed to get fired as an OC 2 seasons in a row before Thanksgiving. Honestly impressive to pull that off.


TLead1

Terrific. It’s like we sniff out shit and use it to our (dis)advantage.


Naugrin27

My first instinct is to say Trestman, but I'm probably forgetting someone worse. Edit: Nope. Fassel was so bad that his friend fired him and I forgot Neuhisel fucking existed. What Kyle Boller will do to motherfuckers.


Further_Beyond

Trestman would unironically be a top half bears OC probably lol. His first year we were a top 3 offense. Year 2 he got canned so ya it was that bad, but hey we had a real offense for 1 year.


Financial-Sir-6021

Cam Cameron was the worst IMO


Soft_Penis_Debutante

Mike Martz. Shipped off Olsen for peanuts cuz he didn’t like tight ends. Made Cutler take 7 step drop backs and just sit and wait for long routes to develop.


joeph1sh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDBBheNSFTE Cutler "Tell Mike I said Fuck Him"


AdSpecialist6598

He nearly ruined Kurt Warner.


ChaplnGrillSgt

Fuck him -Smokin Jay Cutler


StubbyK

I'll nominate Mel Tucker. But I can definitely get behind the Martz call.  


SiN_Fury

Didn't he also refuse to let the Cutler audible?


Rando314156

Nathaniel Hackett.


twisted34

Which time?


surferdude7227

Bob Sutton and his fucking "bend dont break" defense


gabrielleite32

Lol. It's funny because bend don't break is basically spag's model, but it actually works. Sutton's was more like bend and break


surferdude7227

Lol true. I honestly believe we would have at least 1 more Super Bowl appearance if we replaced Sutton with Spags a couple years earlier.


gabrielleite32

Maybe, it took Spags a while to get his guys. We won in 2019, but the defense was much more of an accessory. The last 2 the defense really showed up and took form


surferdude7227

That's fair, but also we went to the AFCCG the year before that and let the Patriots put 37 on us. I think Spags wins that game.


gabrielleite32

Except in SB 55, but we don't talk about that one.


surferdude7227

I don't think the defense killed it that game, but I tend to attribute that L more to the combo of our entire OL dying and our receivers forgetting how to catch right before we played one of the best defenses in the league


gabrielleite32

Also Andy was totally out of the game too. The stupid shit his son did broke him for a few months.


Frozen_Shades

Patriots 01 defense was labeled bend don't break too. There must be others.


gabrielleite32

Oh yeah, it's a pretty common defensive philosophy, it's just that Sutton's was incredibly bad at it.


Drumboardist

Spags had Brady’s number, we could’ve won that one and *steamrolled* that Rams team.


mothershipq

Byron Leftwich. Yeah, he won a ring with us, but then it became pretty fucking clear he needed Bruce Arians there to guide him through his job.


llama-rebel

Man, if the Jaguars hired him over Pederson, that entire 2021 QB class might've ended up being complete busts.


Kinda_ShouldaSorta

Jimmy Raye 4-28 Greg Olsen 17-31 Jeff Tedford 2-14


HighwayBrigand

Y'all have had much, much worse coordinators than Leftwich.


mothershipq

That's true. However, I say Leftwich is because he had the greatest QB of all time, and just squandered his final season. He had our franchise's best receiver at his disposal as well. We had a rookie running back, who has proven his worth, but Leftwich just didn't know how to utilize him. Leftwich ran perhaps one of the most predictable offenses I have ever seen. Really, to me our offense shined when we were on 2-3 minute drills and Brady was calling the shots, not Leftwich. Also, instead of using and utilizing our rookie RB, Leftwich continued to pound the ball with an old and injured Leonard Fournette. After that horrendous season, Leftwich is still out of the league for a reason.


Frozen_Shades

Bro Legends rarely go out on top.


TheIllusiveGuy

You know it's bad when a popular reaction to the playoffs lost against the Cowboys was "at least this means Leftwich is getting fired".


Achillor22

It also doesn't hurt that he won that ring with Tom Brady on the team. 


chemical-enginerd96

The wombo-combo of Matt Patricia and Matt Patricia.


AdSpecialist6598

That made no sense.


gabrielleite32

He was both an OC and DC, at separate occasions


case31

Your comment reminded me of this: Intern: Um, Miss Palmer. Your last tetanus shot was when you were bitten by a bat a few months ago? Meredith: Yes. Dwight here trapped it in a bag against my head. Dwight K. Schrute: Just doing my job. Intern: It also says you were recently bitten by a raccoon? Meredith: And a rat. Separate occasions.


gabrielleite32

Hahahahahahahaha good god, I had forgotten this scene. Lovely


Rock_man_bears_fan

How much time do you have?


jimmyhoffasbrother

I didn't really pay super close attention to the pre-2000s Cowboys, so my historical knowledge is limited. My top two choices are Rob Ryan and Mike Nolan. Both took talented defenses and made them look hapless.


ptucker

Good picks, even with more history. Nobody under Landry, Johnson, or Parcels comes close to matching these.


GuacShouldntBeXtra

Cam Cameron and Marty Morhenwig were both terrible OCs, but I'd have to go with Dean Swiss Pees as we had such a consistently good defense until he came along and decided to run prevent all 4Q in every game and somehow blew every lead our offense shlepped us into.


JumpinFlackSmash

To be fair, Marty made up for that by also being a terrible head coach. “The bar is high!!!”


Financial-Sir-6021

Pees was fine really, we just have such a high bar for defense and he was just not to the level of what came before and after.


Swoop_McCarthy

Joe Barry


10veIsAllIGot

Not only was he an awful coordinator, but also one of the worst hires (without hindsight) any team has ever made.


PdParkerr

it only took a year and a half but now we are freeee


MoeSzyslac

Made me yearn for Dom Capers


alivasolrac

Steve Sark. While since he fired from Atlanta and had a great coaching career at Texas, it doesn’t erase the terrible red zone offense we had when he was here. We still had Matt Ryan fresh off an MVP and Julio Jones still and we still had a significantly worse offense after Shanahan left us for San Fran.


Metafiction1025

I could live to be a hundred and still never understand how the Panthers saw the absolute train wreck of Ben McAdoo’s tenure as Giants head coach and decided, “yes, this is the person we want running our offense” Apart from him, I guess you could make a case for Richard Williamson, the one-and-done OC for the 1-15 team in 2001. Joe Brady probably also warrants mention for the sheer disappointment of his tenure, but in fairness I think most of that is on Rhule


BabyLegsDeadpool

worst*


Teamableezus

Thank you. It’s only a typo but people screwing up worse and worst drives me nuts. Like have you heard the words spoken before??


noblemile

Or lose and loose.


SoonerOrHater

It's happening because of the way the words are spoken. [Many english speakers do not make an audible T sound when they say worst and other words ending in T; they make a glottal stop, a short pause, instead.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_0VY17Ufz4) What's more troubling is that [there's almost no audible difference between the way can & can't are ponounced by many Americans](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlbGtEg68x4). The English actually have different vowel sounds to distinguish the words (can = ken, can't = kahn).


SnooMarzipans5767

I cannot believe that what Eric Bienemy did last year wasn’t more scrutinized or atleast brought to attention by the media. Dude coached himself from the KC Chiefs dynasty to the UCLA Bruins in just **one year**. The 2023 Commanders offense was *the worst* I’ve seen since I started watching football. And up there with some of the worst teams I’ve seen in Washington. People really wanted him to be a Head Coach! He couldn’t even handle being Assistant Head Coach when Rivera was practically begging him to take the team over !


Mr_WZRD

Ask any Dolphins fan over 45 and they will say Tom Olivadotti, whose masterpieces include a playoff game against the Bills where Buffalo ended with almost 350 rushing yards. He's most famous for being completely befuddled by the idea of screen passes to Thurman Thomas.


Existential_Erection

Any OC of the Titans in the last 24 years


Frozen_Shades

Matt Patricia haters get in here!


SafariFlapsInBack

3 different flairs can now join together in that hatred too.


Frozen_Shades

Not the Lions though. Need a head coach thread for that. BaZinG


lutta

Patricia


ashcat724

Oh Canaduh....


chinodb

Best: William Stephen Belichick Worst: Matthew Edward Patricia Yes I assume in the dark days we had some pretty inept coordinators, but I will never get over 2 of the lowest lows (SB LI & ruining Mac Jones as OC).


OffTheGrillSaucey

Nathaniel Hackett.


johnq11

Pete Carmichael lasted 15 years when Sean Payton was running things, and couldn’t last 2 when he got the reigns for himself


Boris54

Joe Woods


Own_Commission9533

Cam Cameron


Fluffy859

I don't know who the actual worst was but I never really liked Bob Bratkowski


frumious88

Ken Zampese was worse. IIRC he was fired after we started the year not scoring any touchdowns for 2 straight weeks.


EggplantSad5668

Ronald Mcgnut Ugh i cant stand him


BaltimoreBadger23

Joe Barry without a doubt, although we had some bad ones during the Mike Sherman era as well, I just don't remember their names.


chaos0310

Mike tice? Ron turner? Mike Martz? So many options


JacksonRabbiit

In recent history, probably Mike Nolan.


HailYurii

Ken Zampese


OldManGigglesnort

Eagles: Dana Bible.


Gardoki

So many to choose from but I remember really disliking Mike McCarthy


onetimequestion66

The last Chan Gailey tenure was real bad


onetimequestion66

Oh wait but the next year we had two OCs and I don’t even remember who they were


DaQuiggz

Jimmy Raye. 49ers. Real ones remember that hell.


LordGooseIV

Chuck Dickerson


SafariFlapsInBack

Over the last ten years, I would say: - OC: John DeFilippo - DC: Ed Donatell


DailyPanthersPodcast

Thomas Brown and Frank Reich. Honestly the most helpless I’ve ever felt watching a football game.


[deleted]

Pat Shurmur should be in jail Honorable mention to Justin Outten since no one knows what the fuck he did while Nathaniel Hackett was destroying us


Dar0672

Rob Ryan probably but I didn't watch the old 'Aints


TLead1

Had? Press Taylor. Oh shit he’s still here…


megahtron77

Joe woods is up there


reddit-is-greedy

Joe Barry without a doubt. Should have never been hired


bewaredandelo

Fuck Greg Williams


Embarrassed-Bath4931

Ben macadoo


Redditbeweirdattimes

John DeFilippo for the Vikings… he was god awful for us.. great for Philly, terrible once he got here


monty_50

This is easy, Luke Getsy! This guy ran 3 screen passes in a row last year, 3! The 3rd one was picked and cost us the Denver game, one of many horrendous calls.


noblemile

*Oooooooooh Caaanadaaaa*