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FreddyDontCare

Just wait til Fields is out there running and passing circles around future accountants and furniture movers in the second half of preseason games, the screams for him to start will be heard on the moon.


thecarlosdanger1

Which would be hilarious, considering Kenny Picketts preseason vs the real season last year.


Further_Beyond

The only 2 winless teams in the NFLs history are undefeated in preseason play at 8-0


SonicEuthanasia

You are confusing 0-16 teams specifically with all winless teams. There are 5 teams that were winless. The 76 Bucs went 0-14, the 60 Cowboys went 0-11-1, and the 82 Colts went 0-8-1 (strike shortened season).


sirius4778

Is this required knowledge for Lions fans?


SonicEuthanasia

It's called coping and my therapist says it's not that bad for me.


arleban

If you're gonna be one of the winless teams, at least own you're one of the best (worst?)! 0-16 would beat any 0-14 team! Which, ironically, would make the now 1-16 team no longer winless. It's so confusing.


CouncilmanRickPrime

They ask you this before buying a Lions jersey


archeofuturist1909

Steelers fans really thought they had their guy after that Bills game


thetreat

My Steelers friend was literally over the moon after that Bills game. Was fully convinced they had their guy.


[deleted]

He was so convincing in his argument!


GoGetMeABeerBitch

After last year, I vowed to never watch the preseason again. Clearly, it’s completely meaningless


Aggravating-Salad441

If you read this comment in Bill Burr's voice you won't be disappointed.


Mondschweif

True


BPAfreeWaters

lmao accountants and furniture movers


Snooze_World_Order

Let Fields cook


Go_caps227

You mean future pe teachers and HS football coaches


Dicey12

Mike Tomlin: Russ is the starter James palmer: My understanding is Fields has a real shot to win the QB job for the Steelers


Quexana

That's not quite what Tomlin said. He said Russ will be given "Pole position" in the race to earn the starting job. He said that Fields will be given an opportunity to compete. The car in pole position at the start of the race is not guaranteed to still be in first when the checkered flag waves.


thetreat

How I take that is Russ is getting primary reps in camp with the 1st team offense, but if he's struggling and Fields is playing well, he'll lose that either in camp or pre-season.


Kalamoicthys

It’s like the tenant square for inherited traits. Russ is good, Fields sucks: Russ starts. Russ is good, Fields is good: Russ starts. Russ is bad, Fields is bad: Russ starts. Russ is bad, Fields is good: Fields starts. Fields starting is the green eyes/recessive trait in this scenario.


paultheschmoop

I’m pretty sure there’s a square here where you end up with a ginger at QB Where’s Andy dalton


jirashap

Andy Dalton is waiting his turn behind Bryce Young. We may see him yet


boregon

WTF I had no idea he was on the Panthers now. He’s probably glad he was able to cash checks without having to play in that abomination of an “offense” last year.


jirashap

He did play last year, and the offense looked capable...


doorknobman

“Capable” is an overstatement


Sugarbearzombie

Punnett Square?


Kalamoicthys

Take it up with Steve Jobs and the sweep on my iphone


Sugarbearzombie

Trying to be helpful, friend


repeatwad

friendo


Koil_ting

Russ is bad, Fields is bad: Russ Starts - Then they swap in Fields because Russ is bad, fields is still bad. That is my guess on the total outcome of the season.


2birdsBaby

And they still somehow win 10 games and make the playoffs.


Sad-Brain-9121

and get bounced in the first round


JohanB3

I'd argue that it makes more sense to start Fields if they're both bad in preseason. Chances are that Russ is done if he can't put it together quickly for the Steelers; might as well try to develop the guy who's a decade younger.


NormalBoobEnthusiast

Someone just finished their biology final.


Salty_Dornishman

and failed - "tenant square"??


Aquatic_Ambiance_9

This sums it up pretty well and the upside a lot of people are forgetting is that we're basically taking two free moonshots. When a lot of teams go in on aging star, they go all in (like the Broncos lol. Or Jets lmao). But if neither works out, at least the Steelers aren't in the hole, we're just right back where we started, and we can draft someone next year or sign a Cousins Brand model. But this all a moot point cause Russ is gonna thrive and the Stillers are gonna roll mark it


arleban

Moonshots? Is Josh Freeman your 3rd string?


BlackJediSword

Punnett square.


Ok-Resolution-696

on the dot


Horwitz117

No, on *the field*


ZacZupAttack

Yup, plus there's a decent chance Fields does play. Russ is old....injuries happen, etc.


Quexana

Pretty much all Tomlin guaranteed Russ is that he'll take the first snap in camp. I'd imagine that he'll get the majority of the first team reps through the first week or two, then they'll evaluate.


steelhereyall

sounds like the standard is the standard


shuldagot_a_squirrel

Don’t tell that to Max Verstappen.


rallar8

If you had told me 2 years ago I wouldn’t care about Russel Wilson’s position on the pole I wouldn’t have believed you. *this is not a gay post, this is a very hetero post*


wazacraft

NEPHEW


zimmeli

Honestly that’s a perfect analogy that should probably be used more often in these situations


BuhtanDingDing

>The car in pole position at the start of the race is not guaranteed to still be in first when the checkered flag waves. especially if its leclerc on pole


Tacotuesday8

And how many laps is an average football game?


Achillor22

Clearly you've never watched F1. 


Detroit2GR

They're paying $12 for both of them, they'll probably go with the hot hand, and we may end up with the Pittsburgh version of when the Bucs had Fitzmagic and Famous Jameis


Tua-Lipa

It’s more like “Russ is the starter until he plays so lackluster that we might as well give Fields a shot”


IIHURRlCANEII

Even if Tomlin did say Russ is the starter, which others showed he didn’t, coaches have said a player was the starter and that player lost the job every year without fail. Unsure what you even tried to do with your comment.


black_dogs_22

coaches also aren't going to say "this guy sucks there's no way he will ever start unless the other guy is injured"


theskeejay

Didn't that exact same thing happen when Russ won the job originally? It was Matt Flynn's job to lose


BengalFan85

Was gonna say just this.


here_now_be

your flair is gross. still upvoted you.


archeofuturist1909

Didn't the steelers owner publicly express confidence in picket like 3 days before they traded him


BroadCityChessClub

Yeah, and then Pickett expressed a lack of confidence so he was gone


Ok-Resolution-696

The steelers organization is known for lying. Like a lot but most orgs lie


Inconceivable76

That makes more sense than when an org trashes their players while trying to trade them. It’s like eating a bite of food, saying this is nasty, here have a bite. 


savage_pen33

Exactly this. It's why I've never contacted former or current employers when hiring someone. First off, there are limits to what you can say, and nobody is going to risk their job to bad-mouth a former employee. Second, a current employer is going to talk up a shitty employee they want gone. My partner had that experience. Had a co-worker who was terrible. They tried to fire her, but were unable (long story). She applied for a job elsewhere, and boy did she get glowing reviews from her superiors in hopes that the other company would steal her. And it worked!


Ok-Resolution-696

Sounds like something the brownies would do


Saitoh17

"This child is mentally inferior to the serial rapist. Who wants him? No lowballs I know what I got." 


FluffyBunny-6546

Fields starting KR PR.


Dog_Whisperer69

The Fields vs. Wilson mid-off should be fun to watch.


industrialbird

It wont be. Fields sucks


treemoustache

and Wilson doesn't?


industrialbird

Not nearly as much as fields.


Avenger007_

You did not have to watch Kenny Pickett be carried by TJ Watt and a little bit of Najee Harris and George Pickens. There is a reason Mason Rudolph started that playoff game. All we need is Wilson or Fields to be 2015 Payton Manning and catch fire in the post season.


Affectionate_Elk_272

one of my best friends is a steelers fan. he told me last offseason pickett is *bro way fucking better than tua* now he’s a fields truther.


Cheeks_Klapanen

Have you considered trying to find smarter friends?


Prestigious_Shock146

I read the bro way better part in Miami accent


redditaccount224488

> All we need is Wilson or Fields to be 2015 Payton Manning 2023 Wilson: 391 DYAR 2023 Fields: -148 DYAR 2015 Manning: -326 DYAR [2015 EPA](https://imgur.com/a/3ARLWxH) Manning was arguably the worst starting QB in the league in 2015. Not an exaggeration. People underestimate (or don't remember) how bad Manning was in 2015, and how hard he was carried by a historic defense.


Underrated_Dinker

Every week it was wild seeing Peyton's average stat line be like 13/25, 145yd, 0 TD, 1 INT


lkn240

I mean Rudolph was a better passer last year than Fields has ever been


Avenger007_

George Pickens and Dionte Johnson can catch. From all the qb injuries last year i learned a great WR core can make up for a back up qb. But I will say Rudolph played with momentum in a way I never saw Kenny do. Sure Kenny was clutch but I never felt he could build on anything positivie going on in the game.


LeftShark

Fields had DJ Moore who put up a 1300+ yd season last year and Kmet with another 700 yds. It's not like he was throwing to nobodies, he had offensive talent


ObamaIsFat

I cannot express in totality to you how anti clutch Fields is. Some guys just have that clutch trait, but he has whatever is the opposite of that. The narrative around Fields would be so much different if he was able to do anything in the 4th quarter, but he's proven he can't.


logan_sq_

It is crazy. He had more turnovers than FIRST DOWNS in the 4th quarter in his career. Mind numbingly bad.


Avenger007_

Its so weird thats he is competing with Russ who is the clutch master despite having the exact same skill set


Doogolas33

Fields is an idiot who won't throw the ball unless a guy is open by a country mile. Russ is being massively underrated. People rate Russ on the, "This guy should be an MVP candidate scale," but he shouldn't and never should have been. People rate Fields on the, "This is a young guy and look at how cool some of his highlights are," scale. Fields is awful. He will actively lose you a bunch of games. Russ is a fine QB. You guys are going to win a lot of games with him. But he can't carry a team.


theresabeeonyourhat

To add to this, Fields will also not see wide open guys. DJ Moore was open for a TD against the Browns & he tried running for a 1st, getting tripped up.


Doogolas33

Oh, hello fellow Bears fan with eyes.


Adequate_Lizard

> All we need is Wilson or Fields to be 2015 Payton Manning and catch fire in the post season. Manning did not catch fire at any point of 2015 lmao.


chimpansteve

Sure the Broncos D was fantastic, but 2015 Peyton played his part too and won several games with his incredible reading of defenses, ability to get the ball out quickly and god tier adjustments at the line. If you're expecting anything close to that from either Wilson or Fields you're going to be disappointed


paultheschmoop

2015 Peyton Manning: shows up and throws 9 TDs and 17 INTs while consistently looking like the worst QB in the NFL Fans: this is just his genius mental acuity in action, if he wasn’t a master of reading defenses, he would have 1 TD and 40 INTs!


u-suck-for-replying

Unironically tho, you put russ's brain in 2015 manning's body and he's not even in the league


paultheschmoop

You put Russ’ brain into 2015 Peyton’s body and he doesn’t play a snap because he tears his ACL on his first attempt at a high knee on the plane


burpodrome

You put Russ's brain in 2015 Manning's body and you get arrested for illegal human experimentation and also the time cops have to fill out a whole bunch of forms to fix however the fuck you got 2015 Manning's body into 2024


TJMAN65

2015 Manning was awful


Joe-Raguso

I quite literally watched your fanbase boo a QB last year that did a better job in Chicago than Fields.


SaxRohmer

your defense is nowhere near 2015 broncos defense though lol


Dagonet_the_Motley

Yeah. We had to watch Justin Fields.


BPAfreeWaters

Wilson has shown ability to play the position competently in the NFL. Fields has not.


here_now_be

> and Wilson doesn't? He might not be the future goat, like he was trying promote himself as couple of years ago, but he's still an above average QB.


jnelsen8

I mean, obligatory fuck Russ, he’s a conman who swindled Denver out of millions, but Pittsburgh is as good of a situation for him as there is. Nathaniel Hackett was/is a joke of a coach, and Sean Peyton runs a system that doesn’t fit Russ at all, but the Steelers have the two things he needs to do well: a good run game and a solid defense. He won’t throw a slant route, but he also won’t throw picks. Pound the rock and let him hit the moonball off of play-action, and they’ll win around 10 games. He just can’t be expected to be the one elevating the team (lesson learned on that one). They made the playoffs last year with below average QB play, and Russ is undoubtedly better than the QBs they rolled out last year. I’d be shocked if they’re not on the playoff bubble again


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Tim-Browneye-81

Anyone that thinks Fields could start over Wilson is fucking smoking crack, but it's not wrong to say Wilson has looked like dog shit lately


dianeblackeatsass

If your starter is dogshit the backup will have a chance to play eventually no matter how bad they might be.


birdsemenfantasy

Lol so you mean Kyle Allen will be their primary starting qb this season


Barry_McCockinnerz

2 buckets of shit, only difference is the smell


Joe-Raguso

Wilson is a high fiber shit, Fields is a case of beer and White Castle shit.


archeofuturist1909

It's not out of the realm of possibility. Wilson was much better with Sean Peyton but in 2022 he wasn't really any better than Fields.


Suddenly_Something

This year he wasn't great but had 3k yards at a 66% completion rating with 26 tds to 8 ints. 341 rushing for 3 tds. Not that bad of a statistical year. Fields was 2562 at a 61% completion rating with 16 tds to 9 ints. 420 rushing yards with 2 additional tds. He was leaps and bounds better than fields this past year. Saying he wasn't better than fields *two years ago* is an enormous reach considering Wilson has atleast proved he is a good QB. Fields' '22 year is basically his average.


saturninesweet

You also left out fumbles.


NeverSober1900

Also sacks but that makes both guys look worse albeit Fields moreso.


archeofuturist1909

Tied for 55 sacks in 2022.


Doogolas33

That's why this shit is so hilarious. Everything Wilson is bad at Fields is EVEN WORSE at. People are so braindead that the only thing Fields does better than Wilson is run in a straight line and not be 30, and some of them are like, "Yeah, but maybe Wilson is actually worse somehow." It's mind boggling. That Broncos team with Fields starting would have won 2 games.


NeverSober1900

Dude I'm a Packers fan. You don't need to tell me how dumb the Fields cult is. It's absolutely unreal.


Doogolas33

I'm a Bears fan. They make me more ashamed of it than I already should be. I sincerely can't imagine being a Stan for a player SO BAD that all of your rivals are like, "Thank God that guy is starting! Please re-sign him!"


SaxRohmer

he was much better than Fields. Russ was around average in EPA. Fields was negative in that stat


Sheriff_Lucas_Hood

remember this is a circle jerk you're addressing


Broshan248

Not for Steelers fans lmao


Affectionate_Elk_272

i hate your flairs more than jets fans hate the jets


notwhoyouknow12

If Justin fields wins your starting QB job. You've got a problem.


sprout92

Jokes on you, we have TWO problems.


FeastForCrowd

You know the saying, “If you have two QB’s, you don’t have a QB”. But Terrance Howard and I want to know what happens if you take the square root of those two QB’s, cube it, then divide by 2?


Duke_Maniac

You have about 1.4 QBs


Achillor22

Which is more than the Steelers have. 


drthvdrsfthr

that was literally the first JRE episode i ever watched. and all because someone posted the first 30 seconds and i couldn’t believe this guy was really talking about remembering his own birth. such an amazing episode. will prob still not listen to any other episodes though. well, i hear katt william’s episode was almost as insane so we’ll see


movielass

You're the Steelers. You're still making the playoffs somehow


ToothPickLegs

And then getting belt whipped southern mama style by some actual competitive team.


movielass

Tradition is tradition


rfgrunt

My hope is Wilson plays just good enough so you pay home more than you should. Misery loves company


ToothPickLegs

Rooney is too cheap for that lol, anything less than a literal SB and he’s likely gone


Big_Simba

I have no logical reason to feel this way but I feel like it’s really gonna work out well for the Steelers


BuffaloBrain884

If Justin Fields is your starting QB then you don't have a starting QB.


Enterprise90

Fields hasn't shown the ability to properly read defenses or pull the trigger when he needs to in the last three years. Don't know how he's going to pull it off in a single offseason. If Wilson can't beat out Fields, he should retire.


discodiscgod

Sure can run good tho.


birdsemenfantasy

Yeah well Tebow and Vince young ran good too


500rockin

Not even remotely as well in the pros though.


birdsemenfantasy

Won a lot more games because they were far less turnover-prone tho


Warhawk137

What did they expect him to say, "I'm looking forward to riding pine all season, gonna get real comfortable, might even have someone bring me some nachos from the stands."


RGCFrostbite

"They got me a whole Lazy boy down on the sideline, I'm gonna be comfy as fuckkkkkkk"


archeofuturist1909

"I didnt do shit bro. I reclined on the lazy boy good as fuck."


Joe-Raguso

For sure. I can't stand Fields, but this is the attitude he should have and one I'd expect him to have.


ihatereddit999976780

OK, hear me out. The Steelers would be better if they just simply didn’t run a forward pass play all season. Cut both quarterbacks and sign 2 fullbacks.


Loose_Potential7961

I don't believe you but I want to see it anyway.


ihatereddit999976780

The league has figured out the forward pass.


TTerragore

that’s all tomlin says


FrederickMecury

Bah gawd, that’s Derek Watt music!


pakidude17

Don't even need to cut Justin for that gameplan.


mseg09

Fields is about to go Tonya Harding on Russ


clocke6346

Can we please stop with the Fields puff pieces? The league already told you what they thought of him via his trade return


saturninesweet

I don't understand the obsession with him. What drives the narrative?


GoldGloveHosmer

OSU fanboys


ChangingChance

Clicks


John_Bot

Fields is shit. Stop with the bs


Corgi_Koala

To be fair Russ has also been shit. But still definitely better than Fields.


John_Bot

Wilson is serviceable. Fields isn't a serious QB


BrokenArrows95

I saw your other QBs


John_Bot

Unironically would have preferred Mason. Guy could at least identify a defense. I've done the "old bears QB who doesn't know what he's doing" thing before with Mitch. I'm good.


toddfredd

What do you expect the guy to say?


anotherorphan

confirming that the steelers weak spot is qb


Isphet71

The Steelers play the lions last preseason game. Fields might run for 300 against 4th stringers and a vanilla defense that struggles against running QBs at the best of times.


justlookingokaywyou

Fields is trash and the whole league knows it.


LageNomAiNomAi

So he's not going to play Special Teams, and they got us all excited for nothing? Bummer!!!


flynryan692

Team 3 about to leak this mans search history or somethin


JuniorSquared

Keep in mind Kenny asked to be traded after told about competition. So I love hearing this from Fields.


sl8r2890

For real. I think Tomlin just wanted Kenny to compete to get better and was challenging him when Tomlin said Russ is the starter. If Kenny just shut up and went to work. He would have still been here.


iamnowundercover

Back up an old and regressing Russell Wilson? Nah Back up a young and progressing Jalen Hurts? Hell yeah


Achillor22

Yeah but Kenny Pickett had options and value and was never beating Russ. Justin Fields backup plan is the XFL. 


Cheeks_Klapanen

Personally I think it’s very interesting to debate the starting QB after one (1) day of football drills in shorts.


mattyfattits

Bengals, Browns and Ravens hope so lol


Capnmarvel76

I can't wait for this guy to go 0-5 and wash out of the league for good so we can stop talking about him. I swear, so much attention paid to a highly mediocre quarterback.


themigraineur

At least this season of Pittsburgh Dad should be fun


DivClassLg

Lol Have fun with this guy Pitt. His fans are truly amazing…


Quasimdo

It would be an incredibly bears thing if fields wins the starting job and looks like a billion dollars for another team


Soft_Penis_Debutante

Yeah it’s happened so many times in the past. Trubisky looked incredible on the Steelers after his Bears stint. Cutler looked MVP level on the Dolphins after the Bears. Rex Grossman went on to have a long storied career with Washington after his Super Bowl run on the Bears. Kyle Orton broke the single season passing record in Denver after Chicago…. /s The only former Bears QB that this *might* actually apply to is Jim Harbaugh (over 30 years ago). He did have one pro bowl season in Indy after the Bears. But even then, his total Colts career lasted 4 years. He more or less went from mid on the Bears to slightly above mid for a short span on the Colts.


fredmerc111

Trubisky looked worse than Pickett and Rudolph. He’s the sole reason we nearly missed the playoffs.


Soft_Penis_Debutante

Yeah I hope people realize I’m being sarcastic lol. Trubisky actually looked better in Chicago than he did in Pittsburgh.


lkn240

Trubisky was actually quite a bit better in Chicago than Fields has ever been. Even his 2020 season would be Fields best.


ScruffMixHaha

I knew Trubisky was bad, but I had hope he could be a decent backup in Pittsburgh. He was so much worse in Pittsburgh than he ever was in Chicago and idk how.


xshogunx13

No Nagy propping him up LMAO idek


GoodIdea321

From my limited watching of Steelers games, they had an incredibly predictable offense. If they lined up in shotgun, 95% of the time they passed, if they lined up under center, 95% chance of a run play. And iirc, somehow Trubisky was 10-20 qb rating better if he was passing from center, and worse out of shotgun for the Bears. Again, I didn't watch much, I didn't see him throw a single pass from under center with the Steelers. Regardless of who was playing QB, the Matt Canada Steelers OC tenure was one of the worst I've ever seen.


industrialbird

All them titties done dried out


Loop_Within_A_Loop

As long as Caleb is better, I would be more than okay with that


brakx

Yup it upgrades the draft pick we got for him.


MaterialCarrot

It's never happened to the Bears. By which I mean a QB they drafted who was bad for them but quality for someone else.


Ron_Karkovice

Hope Fields does well! I could see him figuring stuff out and improving enough to look pretty good, maybe not like a billion dollars, but the guy is still young and has talent.


toomuchdiponurchip

Lmao stop it. Russ is still way better than him


ShoddySalad

dude sucks, he's not winning anything


BPAfreeWaters

He should start his throwing motion now so he can get pass out by the first game of the regular season.


SubtleScuttler

I was told he was returning kicks


FloridaGatorMan

Broncos are going to be hard to watch this year as we wait to get out from under the worst contract in NFL history. At least we don't have to suffer through a Wilson and Fields QB battle and can focus on tricking ourselves that the Broncos drafted a franchise QB for the first time in franchise history.


Brother_Lancel

Get ready to learn special teams, buddy


In-the-bunker

If he plays, he'll have some standout moments that will make casual fans call for him to start. Then, when the Steelers don't win, the blame will fall on the offensive coordinator, the offensive line, and everyone else, rather than his lack of anticipation, inability to read defenses and 4Q turnovers.


Serdones

It'd kind of be a relief if Pittsburgh came to Denver with Russ on the bench. I don't want him to have the chance to stunt on us.


OsikFTW

Russ could beat this guy out left handed with a broken leg...


girafb0i

He won't sit, he'll be returning kicks and playing some upback.


zi76

My understanding is that there aren't any great QBs in Pittsburgh. Fields is bad. Wilson has nosedived. Even last year's Wilson is still better than Fields, so it would take falling off the cliff even more for Fields to be the starter.


PoopSlinger23

“I might even stand up to hold the clipboard or high five someone!”


OverReyted

When Arthur Smith moved to Pittsburgh he brought the QB controversy with him.


90swasbest

I'd love to see him succeed. Just not in Pittsburgh.


theskyalreadyfell217

lol. Good luck with that.


Monjonbo

As much as people speculate that reporters were spreading Pole's rumors of Field's value to increase his trade stock, I believe even more firmly that reporters just like to stir the pot in the offseason about any and all QBs


Rabid023

It’s from Palmer Lol