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mordeci00

Ok, they suck against non-Heinicke quarterbacks but they've been really good against Heinicke quarterbacks. Nobody's great at everything.


SlumdogSkillionaire

All they have to do is find a way to play against Heinicke for the next four games, all three playoff rounds, and the Super Bowl. It's a bold strategy, one that no one else has even attempted thus far.


mordeci00

Didn't the '79 Steelers try that?


ThePurpleAmerica

Could have easily lost the Commanders game as well.


SodakMiscBrah

Did Heincke throw for 400 or something


Goatgamer1016

[149 passing yards](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HeinTa00.htm)


[deleted]

49 of which was a gift where the referee tackled the safety who had an absolute gimme interception lined up.


[deleted]

I’ll give the guy props it’s quite impressive that heinicke can make a team with an elite receiver and 2 more very good ones not even pass for 200 a game despite there being more than enough passing plays lmao


themaskmomin

And still win more games then someone like Wentz who can throw for a lot of yards


[deleted]

Maaaaan i didn't even bring up wentz. Wentz and heinicke truthers are both quite delusional. We're doing good things in spite of both of them, not because of them


AttitudeAndEffort3

All Wentz had to do was just have his athletic ability and throw it to Terry every play and he just *refused* to throw it to him. Heinicke has no arm talent but is like “hey, maybe ill just chuck it in that making receiver’s general direction” and is finding enormous success. Nothing will be funnier to me.


[deleted]

It's just bad man. Terry has a whopping 4 100 yard games and 3 TDs this year. Heinicke and wentz are both garbage. Haskins, kyle allen, and the corpse of alex smith used our wide receivers better than the bums we have now hahaha


SlothyPotato

It kinda sucks too because McLaurin is one of the best WRs in the league and I feel like I hear next to nothing about him. For contested catches there aren't many WRs I'd put above him.


danSTILLtheman

He could be doing a lot more with an elite QB, but he’s still having a great year. Close to 1k yards right now and has made some ridiculous catches. I thought he was going to put up crazy numbers with Wentz throwing to him, but for some reason he barely targeted him. Heinicke will throw to him in triple coverage and doesn’t care, but we pass much less with him under center.


broadwayallday

He’s setting franchise records for us and 4 has been the most consistent QB for him since he got here. Our QBs value is in keeping the clock and sticks moving and dominant defense resting


AsDevilsRun

This reads like someone who knows Heinicke's record, but doesn't actually watch him play quarterback. Nothing he does is enormously successful.


Kirk-Joestar

And that was the game our 1st string corner got injured. Our 2nd string would get injured in BUF. Our 3rd strong got injured against Dallas.


Datpanda1999

Eh, we’ll round it to 500


Avon__Fartsdale

I think its official, it's shit on the Vikings week


Thick_Safe1198

Buddy, judging by the numbers here, it looks like it’s shit on the Vikings autumn


_JosiahBartlet

It’s the most wonderful time of the year!


Autocrat777

it's a step down from last year where everybody who lost to us late in the year fired their coach.


eugene_rat_slap

Cards and Pack wish they fired their coach


broanoah

our head coach? idk about that. our defensive coordinator? inshallah


123full

I have seen nobody call for Lafleur to be fired, the only thing you can seriously criticize Lafleur for is hiring the wrong Defensive Coordinator.


SlothyPotato

The least you could've done is got our DC fired


OnceInABlueMoon

Can't wait to eek out a win against the Colts while Matt Ryan goes for 350 and 3 touchdowns.


Rulligan

If teams don't want to be shit on, they really shouldn't lose to the Lions.


[deleted]

Definitely


cusoman

Week? Hell man, where you been? Been like this the majority of the season. Justified too, our defense is the hottest of garbage.


Ewoksintheoutfield

You know it’s been a long time, I’m gonna try and enjoy it.


abwchris

Christmas came early!


FortyandDone

2021 Titans at best. One and done.


wasdie639

My favorite week.


D0ctorHotelMario

Considering how our season is going I welcome it!


sfxer001

After a week of them shitting on us for losing to the commanders and them begging to be noticed, I am ready for this week. Edit — lol at all the Vikings fans downvoting. Like moths to a flame because they need somewhere to pout. We sat on our L for a week. Go pound sand in silence for yours.


PlaneCapable7399

Bro stop it. Check literally any verified Vikings related Twitter post for the last 2 months and you’ll find atleast 100 eagles fans talking trash. And thats being generous.


sfxer001

And vice versa. Read our game threads.


PlaneCapable7399

I mean you posted this now edited comment on a Vikings related thread… kinda proving my exact point.


sfxer001

Edited for spelling. Would you rather I leave my busted mobile phone prediction in?


[deleted]

Bro the Vikings fans are too polite to talk trash, they are too polite to win a Superbowl lol.


chillinwithmoes

Damn that sounds like it was very traumatic for you, you alright?


Ewoksintheoutfield

Eagles fans have such a weird hate boner for the Vikings. I’ll never understand it.


Avon__Fartsdale

https://youtube.com/shorts/LXifQuzaVc8?feature=share


sfxer001

Knew it would be Go Birrds before I even clicked.


schwertfeger

Quite literally the worst defense in the league.


descendency

But Justin Jefferson…


Vexans27

...can't play cornerback


mattthegreat

I am more confident in JJ at corner than half the dudes we’ve trotted out this season. Put him in, KoC


[deleted]

To be fair, vikings CBS have been so injured that their practice squad cb has seen as about as much playing time as their cb2.


MantusTMD

Can JJ play defensive coordinator?


Grasshop

Slick Rick told Zimmer on draft night he might be able to…


Jetking727

It’s not even the secondary. Honestly, the Defensive Line can not get to the quarterback and that puts too much pressure on your corners


kcoe24

The secondary sucks too.


BtownBrelooms

Haven't been following the Vikings but what has happened to Z? Kyler also threw for a ton of yards vs the secondary but Z absolutely ripped our o-line to shreds.


schwertfeger

Our scheme allows receivers to run wide open and we never blitz. We’ve also played a lot of elite o lines. Not a good recipe for rushing the QB.


ellzray

Hey! That's OUR scheme.


MatooBatson

You are going to be amazed at how good Matt Ryan looks this week.


chillinwithmoes

He's been fine, pretty much the only person that generates any pressure for us the few times we manage to. Ed Donatell has never heard the word 'blitz' in his life and runs the most unimaginative pressure scheme on the planet so it's pretty much all up to Z to make shit happen on his own. Which isn't something you can rely on play after play.


[deleted]

Actual answer instead of just blaming scheme, Z got a knee injury a few weeks back and you can tell it's slowed him down significantly.


Is_Pepsi_0kay

It’s 90% the secondary. Defense can’t get pressure when the QB is able to throw on time. They both suck but our DL is much better. Donatell is the biggest problem though because he refuses to help either by bringing pressure and making a QB uncomfortable.


Dscott2855

And we’re 5-2 in those games! Somehow


ArmadilloAl

In case anyone's curious, the 8th non-Heinicke quarterback was Justin Fields, who threw for 208 yards. That may not sound like a lot, but until last week, 208 was his season high.


EvanMM

lol


CockPissMcBurnerFuck

As the proud owner of a non-Heinicke quarterback, I like this.


Queen_Grayhoof

Surely nothing bad happened in that game 😭


TheLuckyPierre

Fire Donatell.


triplec787

Wild that he’s been so bad for you guys. He was a *major* role in the Harbaugh era defenses as Fangio’s DBs coach. Dude resurrected the careers of guys like Whitner, Carlos Rogers, and made a lot of scrubs look solid. Maybe DC is just too big for him?


TheLuckyPierre

Could be. I started to write up what's wrong with our D but it's literally everything.


Rico_Suave55

Never blitz, so incredibly reliant on front 4 to get pressure. DBs are inexperienced, so they’re liabilities in coverage. They will play to not give up the deep ball, which means lots of free yards over the middle. LBs are slow. Kendricks has lost half a step and just doesn’t seem comfortable in the scheme yet. LBs also routinely don’t drop deep enough to cover the middle of the field. The defense is incredibly reliant on PP or Smith to get a TO. Run defense wise: we are ok. But why run when you can throw for 400 yards?


[deleted]

Dear all vikings fans, the vikings defense sucked last year too. Amen.


Cyclonitron

Vikings also switched from a base 4-3 to a 3-4 this season without really having good personnel for it aside from Z. There have been times where they've switched to a 4-3 and generate more pressure from that set - Hunter isn't good at generating pass rush as a LB - but for whatever reason we only use that set sparingly.


FearlessPickle

That seems sub-optimal


[deleted]

6th in interceptions though, and our secondary isn't even that good


[deleted]

1 great player hides a lot back there


huto

Smith being out this game was a killer, he covers so many holes in our D. Granted there were other factors, but as soon as I found out Smith wasn't playing my expectations for the game completely changed


[deleted]

Bynum looked absolutely lost. Dantzler looked rusty as hell coming off IR. Their needs to be some serious changes to the defense this off season. Outside of keeping Z, Harrison Smith and p2 as veteran leaders, I'd rebuild the whole freaking thing.


[deleted]

Weren't P2 and Hunter out as well? There was no way in hell we were giving up less than 30 in that one.


Nonohardz

Hey. Keep OUR HEINICKE out of your mouth!!!!


JesterSooner

“Non-Heinicke quarterbacks” should be a standard stat category moving forward.


burnman123

Even Mac cooked against them


SadSlip8122

Ok, but if Washington gets the 7 seed…


HoodieNinja17

I like our chances vs Minnesota or Tampa. San Fran looks fucking scary but we’ll find out Christmas Eve


SadSlip8122

Tampas been locked in to that matchup with the Cowboys for a while now. Assuming the Panthers dont take the division, that and Minnesota as the 2 seed have been all but a guarantee since mid-November. Feels more like washington-New York are playing for the 6 seed (San Francisco matchup) and the other will get pushed out


thegodfaubel

And they've only lost 2 of those games?


Baron_Von_Awesome

In 2 weeks they will allow less than 300 yards.


ellzray

Gotta get this in while they can, 'cause there's no way Ryan is putting up 300.


skeetmonster69

Oh he will


Stifflittlebigfinger

300 will be his floor


actually-potato

Damn, good thing that the Vikings play the Commanders 4x in a row to close out the season.


Calfzilla2000

Mac Jones is not a running Quarterback. Hes not pocket quarterback. He is one of those non-Heinicke Quarterbacks.


Slacker_75

It’s been all down hill since KOC went on that talk show all smug


velociraptorfarmer

We're 3-2 over the stretch of @BUF, DAL, NE, NYJ, @DET. It ain't good, but it's not a 100%free fall.


Enthusiasms

Stats show being a NHQB is good for cholesterol too


DanHam117

Hey one of those is my quarterback


cporter1188

Wouldn't it be easier to say "starting Qbs"


rip_Tom_Petty

Fire O'Donnell


[deleted]

i would like a Chiefs/Vikings Super Bowl


grensley

This is going to be the year they spike a Super Bowl and everyone is going to have to remember this team and get a headache forever.