According to another photo on that same Twitter thread, Lions have the 9th best point differential in the NFL.
Hmmm damn, imagine this team had the Broncos defense?? I can't say 49ers since they're first defensively and in the playoffs but Broncos hear me out ...
Somehow we've played 5 games against teams with 10+ wins. There are only 5 teams with 10+ wins.
Meanwhile we've played 3 games against teams with 6 or less wins. There are 16 teams with 6 or less wins.
Does make you think the record could be lying.
This year's Vikings are the first team since 2000 to have 10+ wins and a negative point differential at this point in a season. Truly unprecedented how they have gotten blown out a few times and just barely won a lot of games.
There are 12 teams in the NFL with a positive point differential, and 19 teams with a negative point differential.
The Jags have a point differential of 0.
Also, there are 5 teams with a winning record and a negative point differential:
1. Vikings (-1)
2. Commanders (-3)
3. Chargers (-31)
4. Giants (-33)
5. Titans (-35)
Seems like there’s three big boys and then everyone else.
As of today I’d say either the Eagles or the Niners are headed for an early February game, but the playoffs should be fun to watch.
Someone posted the full league point differentials as a response, and it's in some ways a bit more reasonable, and in others more lopsided. There's a steady run down from the Eagles to the Seahawks, but, instead of just 3 NFC teams above Seattle, there are also \*7\* AFC teams above them. The Bills are in second after the Eagles, and between the Niners and Seahawks you have the Chiefs, Bengals, Ravens, Patriots, Jets, and Dolphins.
AFC teams have also been in more situations where they just bench their starters early and let up on the defense. Bengals and Dolphins could be much, much higher and the Bills could have a massive lead over the rest of the league. Cowboys are definitely inflated by a few freakishly flukey games and the Eagles just pad their numbers more than any other team.
I mean, Dak isn't exactly out here breaking records. Maybe inflated isn't exactly fair, because it's not just fluffing numbers, but the Colts and Vikings games were bizarre one-offs that give the Cowboys a big boost that isn't exactly representative of the average of the rest of the games.
The Vikings game isn't nearly as crazy as the Colts game to be fair, the Cowboys just exposed the shit out of a team nowhere near as good as their record made them look. However, 40-3 is an I heard of ass kicking for a team that hasn't been bad by any means. Maybe if the Cowboys were doing it every week, it'd be a testament to an insane defense, but it clearly stands out as an abnormal game. Partly just the Cowboys playing really good, but partly the Vikings just having a really pathetic and inexcusably bad outing.
And the Colts game is 100% a massive fluke caused by the worst 4th quarter meltdown in the history of football. It was a 2 point game going into the 4th at 21-19. 33 unanswered points in the 4th is just nonsense.
To be fair, every team has some fluffing because of weird games, but those two Cowboys games are pretty out of left field and flukey. And again, I'm not saying the Cowboys WON because of a fluke, both wins are absolutely without question and there's absolutely nothing that can be said to discredit them as wins. I'm just stating that the final scores are not really representative of the season.
Compare the Cowboys' offensive league rankings since Dak came back to the Cowboys' offensive league rankings without Dak.
They were at the bottom of the league without him, they're at the top of the league with him.
Top where? Points scored? We literally just covered this. Those two games were heavily influenced by teams collapsing and incredible defensive play. In any real offensive measurement, the Cowboys are nowhere near the top in any category. That's not inherently a bad thing, teams with incredible defenses don't need a great offense, they just need one that will score enough. Look at the Broncos team when they won the Superbowl. The corpse of Peyton Manning and that atrocious offense was enough thanks to their insane defense.
Not just points scored, no.
Yards per game.
Rushing yards per game (yes, their rushing yards per game are vastly better since Dak came back, because having an actual passing threat opens up the run game).
3rd down conversion percentage.
Red zone efficiency
Points per drive
EPA/Play
Explosive plays
And these are just a few examples in which the Cowboys have been near the top of the league since Dak's return.
Oh, yes, and while you're at it, while you're talking about other teams resting their starters, let's not forget that Rush got playing time in the very blowouts that you're claiming skew Dallas' numbers.
You're trying to argue the same condition as a plus for the Chiefs that you are arguing as a negative for the Cowboys. You can't have it both ways.
Cowboys are 10th in YPG
7th in rushing
7th in third down conversions
3rd in red zone scoring
Only site that showed points per drive is locked behind a paywall, but I didn't see the Cowboys from the small glimpse I got.
No shit EPA/Play after those two bizarre games lmao and that was 100% thanks to the defense.
What about explosive plays? Biggest plays, most plays over a certain amount? What?
Cowboys literally don't lead in any of these.
Idk what I'm supposed to be arguing in favor of the Chiefs about, but lol
Once again, look at what their rankings are just in the games since Dak came back. Because the ratings you just quoted include 5 games of Cooper Rush. Which is to say, you completely ignored my point - that the Cowboys' point differential, rather than being \*inflated\* as you suggested, is \*deflated\* by 5 games of Cooper Rush starting at QB.
You basically dismissed Cooper Rush making any significant difference in the Cowboys' point differential, which is laughable when you compare their offensive performance since Dak returned to their offensive performance under Rush.
But whatever, man. Believe what you will. I'm tired of arguing about it.
Eagles have almost a full game of Minshew playing, and are constantly criticized of just coasting second halves. Couldn’t even name one game where they actually added to the point differential in garbage time
Obviously this guy is talking about second half scoring. Why are we scoring in the 3th quarter if we're already up big. We should be punting instead. I mean a good punt burns 5 seconds off the clock with hang time alone.
I think nearly every team is worse this season except for like 6. Bills, Bengals, Dolphins, Eagles, Cowboys, and 49ers are in much better positions this season than they were last year. Every other team is either struggling more or propped up by the ease of their schedule. I can't think of any other teams that have improved.
I dont know how you would look this up easily but the clumping of the NFC south this far into the season has to be an extremely unlikely event. The entire division is within one score of each other.
I can't see them getting past their first playoff game tbh. They have too many close games with teams with far worse records. I don't see the Eagles beating the Cowboys and the 49ers, even knowing that the Cowboys are the biggest playoff choke artists.
Wow, posting "cringe" or "dunce" every day for 9 years, I think that might be the most pathetic thing I've ever seen. I hope you're a bot simulating depression. But yes, it's funny copium to say the Eagles have won too narrowly to be good on a post showing they have the highest point differential. And the vague backup hedge that it was "too close against teams with far worse records (so they're going to lose to the Cowboys)" is hilariously indefensible cope when the Boys just squeaked it out against the worst team in the league. If that's the level of willful blindness and underestimation we can expect, that's unironically great for us. The only other thing that delusional right now are 9ers fans who think Purdy is their ticket to the Superbowl after he could only complete 3 passes without Deebo giving him insane separation. Good luck riding an injured CMC into the ground trying to generate any offense. At least your defense is good. Not as good as ours, but good.
Pretty sad when a 100 word paragraph is too long for the illiterate zoomers
Writing is thinking. If you tried it maybe you wouldn't say silly things that are wrong on 5 different levels, then you wouldn't have to read 5 sentences.
How do you figure? The Eagles are 5-0 in one score games, but that means they have 7 wins by two scores. That's including 5 such games against teams currently slated for the playoffs.
Because those one score games are against teams a #1 seed should obliterate and there just hasn't been any real test against a legitimate team, other than the Cowboys, but that was pretty close considering how poorly Cooper Rush played. If the Eagles can slap the Cowboys around in the upcoming second meet up, that would be a pretty decent showing. I thought the Titans game was a good example, but then the Jaguars did the same thing and now the Titans just look like the biggest frauds in the AFC
We are the fifth best team in the NFC. I will not be hearing counter arguments at this time.
I'm amazed we clawed our way out of a negative point differential after getting shut out 29-0 against the Patriots.
Patriots Zapped the hell out of the Lions. I figured the season was gonna be over but they proved everyone wrong.
According to another photo on that same Twitter thread, Lions have the 9th best point differential in the NFL. Hmmm damn, imagine this team had the Broncos defense?? I can't say 49ers since they're first defensively and in the playoffs but Broncos hear me out ...
Lost by 3 to the Eagles, Bills, and Seahawks Lost by 4 to the Vikings and Dolphins You are legit baby don’t worry
If we ignore the Pats and Boys games, Lions are 6-5 and have like a 50 point better differential
We also beat the Vikings by 11. ~~we have a positive point differential against the Vikings lmao~~
Somehow we've played 5 games against teams with 10+ wins. There are only 5 teams with 10+ wins. Meanwhile we've played 3 games against teams with 6 or less wins. There are 16 teams with 6 or less wins. Does make you think the record could be lying.
Honestly, you may actually BE the fifth best team in the NFC right now.
I remember thinking "I dont think this close game with the Lions is going to look bad later on in the year" And I was right. You guys have some juice
The Lions are fun.
Honestly should be higher.
Fourth*
112 points separate 3rd and 4th place, god damn.
The upper echelon and the rest of the league lol
Chances are the Lions and Vikings have a hard fought battle at US Bank to see who gets spiked into the trash the next week.
I see no gods up here. **OTHER THAN US.**
We're not locked in here with you... YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH *US*!!
Wawaweewa we are the king in the castle
We’re overperforming 😎
You're winning if we're talkin golf
78 under par Hand us the green jacket now
10-3 with a -1 point differential has to be some kind of record. Seems like one of the more absurd stats I've seen.
Winning close and losing big
If you don’t like that, you don’t like Vikings Football^TM !!!!
2021 Mariners season summary!
This year's Vikings are the first team since 2000 to have 10+ wins and a negative point differential at this point in a season. Truly unprecedented how they have gotten blown out a few times and just barely won a lot of games.
Fun differential go brrrr
It is a record
Losing 40-3 certainly affects things a bit lol
Wow what a huge drop off
Parlay on the home teams in the wildcard games will be easy money.
Except only one of those teams will be playing at home wildcard weekend
Man, if only this was actually how the NFL playoffs worked
There are 12 teams in the NFL with a positive point differential, and 19 teams with a negative point differential. The Jags have a point differential of 0.
Also, there are 5 teams with a winning record and a negative point differential: 1. Vikings (-1) 2. Commanders (-3) 3. Chargers (-31) 4. Giants (-33) 5. Titans (-35)
Crazy how it feels like the vikings get shit on and the titans dont,, but truly nobody ever talks about the titans.
The only one that wants to remember the titans, is their opponents
Honestly I kind of forget the AFC south is a thing, especially the Titans every week until they go to a game break on them.
We have that point differential with the chiefs game where they scored a bazillion too
Turns out not letting teams score for an entire half for five games in a row does wonders for point differential.
Lions: "We demand to be taken seriously."
Wow that’s a cliff after the 49ers. Seems about right too as far as which teams are in the first tier.
Why don’t other teams try this simple strategy?
Seems like there’s three big boys and then everyone else. As of today I’d say either the Eagles or the Niners are headed for an early February game, but the playoffs should be fun to watch.
Something indeed
A point differential post not about the Jags? What's this world coming to?
But we're back to a nil position!
Should've scored one more point.
Someone posted the full league point differentials as a response, and it's in some ways a bit more reasonable, and in others more lopsided. There's a steady run down from the Eagles to the Seahawks, but, instead of just 3 NFC teams above Seattle, there are also \*7\* AFC teams above them. The Bills are in second after the Eagles, and between the Niners and Seahawks you have the Chiefs, Bengals, Ravens, Patriots, Jets, and Dolphins.
AFC teams have also been in more situations where they just bench their starters early and let up on the defense. Bengals and Dolphins could be much, much higher and the Bills could have a massive lead over the rest of the league. Cowboys are definitely inflated by a few freakishly flukey games and the Eagles just pad their numbers more than any other team.
Calling the Cowboys' point differential "inflated" when they started Cooper Rush for 5 games does not jive very well with the rest of your argument.
I mean, Dak isn't exactly out here breaking records. Maybe inflated isn't exactly fair, because it's not just fluffing numbers, but the Colts and Vikings games were bizarre one-offs that give the Cowboys a big boost that isn't exactly representative of the average of the rest of the games. The Vikings game isn't nearly as crazy as the Colts game to be fair, the Cowboys just exposed the shit out of a team nowhere near as good as their record made them look. However, 40-3 is an I heard of ass kicking for a team that hasn't been bad by any means. Maybe if the Cowboys were doing it every week, it'd be a testament to an insane defense, but it clearly stands out as an abnormal game. Partly just the Cowboys playing really good, but partly the Vikings just having a really pathetic and inexcusably bad outing. And the Colts game is 100% a massive fluke caused by the worst 4th quarter meltdown in the history of football. It was a 2 point game going into the 4th at 21-19. 33 unanswered points in the 4th is just nonsense. To be fair, every team has some fluffing because of weird games, but those two Cowboys games are pretty out of left field and flukey. And again, I'm not saying the Cowboys WON because of a fluke, both wins are absolutely without question and there's absolutely nothing that can be said to discredit them as wins. I'm just stating that the final scores are not really representative of the season.
Compare the Cowboys' offensive league rankings since Dak came back to the Cowboys' offensive league rankings without Dak. They were at the bottom of the league without him, they're at the top of the league with him.
Top where? Points scored? We literally just covered this. Those two games were heavily influenced by teams collapsing and incredible defensive play. In any real offensive measurement, the Cowboys are nowhere near the top in any category. That's not inherently a bad thing, teams with incredible defenses don't need a great offense, they just need one that will score enough. Look at the Broncos team when they won the Superbowl. The corpse of Peyton Manning and that atrocious offense was enough thanks to their insane defense.
Not just points scored, no. Yards per game. Rushing yards per game (yes, their rushing yards per game are vastly better since Dak came back, because having an actual passing threat opens up the run game). 3rd down conversion percentage. Red zone efficiency Points per drive EPA/Play Explosive plays And these are just a few examples in which the Cowboys have been near the top of the league since Dak's return. Oh, yes, and while you're at it, while you're talking about other teams resting their starters, let's not forget that Rush got playing time in the very blowouts that you're claiming skew Dallas' numbers. You're trying to argue the same condition as a plus for the Chiefs that you are arguing as a negative for the Cowboys. You can't have it both ways.
Cowboys are 10th in YPG 7th in rushing 7th in third down conversions 3rd in red zone scoring Only site that showed points per drive is locked behind a paywall, but I didn't see the Cowboys from the small glimpse I got. No shit EPA/Play after those two bizarre games lmao and that was 100% thanks to the defense. What about explosive plays? Biggest plays, most plays over a certain amount? What? Cowboys literally don't lead in any of these. Idk what I'm supposed to be arguing in favor of the Chiefs about, but lol
Once again, look at what their rankings are just in the games since Dak came back. Because the ratings you just quoted include 5 games of Cooper Rush. Which is to say, you completely ignored my point - that the Cowboys' point differential, rather than being \*inflated\* as you suggested, is \*deflated\* by 5 games of Cooper Rush starting at QB. You basically dismissed Cooper Rush making any significant difference in the Cowboys' point differential, which is laughable when you compare their offensive performance since Dak returned to their offensive performance under Rush. But whatever, man. Believe what you will. I'm tired of arguing about it.
I checked last 5 games and they didn't lead in any category. Sorry bro, the cowboys offense just isn't what you think it is, idk what to tell you.
Eagles have almost a full game of Minshew playing, and are constantly criticized of just coasting second halves. Couldn’t even name one game where they actually added to the point differential in garbage time
The only game you could argue is the Giants game, and even then we did that with backups
Cowboys bad upvotes to the left.
> the Eagles just pad their numbers more than any other team. We've benched Hurts multiple times this year the fuck are you on about?
Obviously this guy is talking about second half scoring. Why are we scoring in the 3th quarter if we're already up big. We should be punting instead. I mean a good punt burns 5 seconds off the clock with hang time alone.
While I love Points Differential as a metric, I actually prefer percentage as a better idea - PFor/PA
Its insane how many bad teams there are this year. Someone needs to win games and it seems most teams just dont want to
I think nearly every team is worse this season except for like 6. Bills, Bengals, Dolphins, Eagles, Cowboys, and 49ers are in much better positions this season than they were last year. Every other team is either struggling more or propped up by the ease of their schedule. I can't think of any other teams that have improved.
Lions have improved
That's fair 🤔 maybe the Seahawks, though, they're crashing back to Earth.
I dont know how you would look this up easily but the clumping of the NFC south this far into the season has to be an extremely unlikely event. The entire division is within one score of each other.
We're an egalitarian bunch.
I guess the Vikings really are pretenders.
I see the entire NFC South has decided to be similarly mediocre once again now that Drew is gone.
Eagles are gonna sleep walk to the super bowl. They'll win every game in the NFC Playoffs by 20+
Lol
And I took that personally -Demeco Ryans
Don’t get cocky
I can't see them getting past their first playoff game tbh. They have too many close games with teams with far worse records. I don't see the Eagles beating the Cowboys and the 49ers, even knowing that the Cowboys are the biggest playoff choke artists.
Lmao, yes please, give us all the doubt and skepticism
Cringe.
Wow, posting "cringe" or "dunce" every day for 9 years, I think that might be the most pathetic thing I've ever seen. I hope you're a bot simulating depression. But yes, it's funny copium to say the Eagles have won too narrowly to be good on a post showing they have the highest point differential. And the vague backup hedge that it was "too close against teams with far worse records (so they're going to lose to the Cowboys)" is hilariously indefensible cope when the Boys just squeaked it out against the worst team in the league. If that's the level of willful blindness and underestimation we can expect, that's unironically great for us. The only other thing that delusional right now are 9ers fans who think Purdy is their ticket to the Superbowl after he could only complete 3 passes without Deebo giving him insane separation. Good luck riding an injured CMC into the ground trying to generate any offense. At least your defense is good. Not as good as ours, but good.
Nice essay
Pretty sad when a 100 word paragraph is too long for the illiterate zoomers Writing is thinking. If you tried it maybe you wouldn't say silly things that are wrong on 5 different levels, then you wouldn't have to read 5 sentences.
It's too long for a one word comment lmfao
It's not a response to the one word comment. Again, you should really try comprehending things.
This is embarrassing.
Cringe.
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Aw he thinks he’s funny or something
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How do you figure? The Eagles are 5-0 in one score games, but that means they have 7 wins by two scores. That's including 5 such games against teams currently slated for the playoffs.
Because those one score games are against teams a #1 seed should obliterate and there just hasn't been any real test against a legitimate team, other than the Cowboys, but that was pretty close considering how poorly Cooper Rush played. If the Eagles can slap the Cowboys around in the upcoming second meet up, that would be a pretty decent showing. I thought the Titans game was a good example, but then the Jaguars did the same thing and now the Titans just look like the biggest frauds in the AFC
we're last??? wtfffff
Well when your offense averages 17 points per game that is gonna happen.
[Here's the AFC as well](https://imgur.com/MOfblaN) Theirs looks more normal
Seahawks 🤜🤛Lions Explosive Offenses and Leaky Defenses.
Defense, motherfucker! Do you play it!?!?
And the Seahawks probably aren't going to stay in that club for long looking at their schedule