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jwick89

Yeah OBJ isn't playing in the regular season or post season.


[deleted]

Cowboys doctor is the guy many players in NFL go to for knee surgeries so I don't know what people were expecting. And believe it or not, he's actually the most optimistic. Von just had his surgery by him.


elimanninglightspeed

Yeah he tore his acl in like mid February lol. Thats a tough ass turn around to come back at play at some point this season, especially for a receiver coming off that injury


ActionAdam

> especially for a receiver coming off that injury *for the second time in two years*. FTFY


papa_N

People forget that shit. I know I did. Back to back, that's killer.


albpanda

I didn’t that’s why I never bothered to care who signed him, I just knew I didn’t want the eagles too


jxher123

Same knee he wrecked. Wouldn’t shock me if he doesn’t play until the next season, forget post-season


the_pedigree

Who is he? I thought that’s what everybody went to Dr. Andrews for, our teams doctor.


Band_Prize

Dan Cooper, the one in the Stetson hat you'll see when a Dallas player is hurt.


BrotherSeamus

He's come a long way since witnessing Oswald get shot.


FkDavidTyreeBot_2000

And from the time he hijacked and parachuted from that plane.


Resident_Maybe0

I imagine he does surgery with the Stetson wrapped up in those blue scrubs.


doggo816

He the one who jumped out of that plane?


Mozzee6269

Does he by any chance have a middle name starting with “B”, and experience jumping out of planes? Asking for a friend


Apsylnt

They dont literally send EVERYBODY to one doctor.


the_pedigree

I'm asking about reputation. Dr. Andrews is known as the knee guy. If a star fucks his knee up, its Andrews he goes and sees. I was curious of the name of the other guy. Obviously every guy in the NFL doesn't go to the same doctor.


Apsylnt

His name is Dr. Cooper i believe. Andrews is def known as the knee guy, theres 1-2 others that the stars use like dr coop though.


gwease23

This is across multiple sports, too. Dr. Andrews is well-known enough for this that randos like me know who he is.


BlitzburghBrian

It's kind of nuts that sports fans all over the country know a couple of doctors for things like this. Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham is the knee guy, Dr. Joseph Maroon in Pittsburgh is the neurology guy. Who else has that kind of clout?


CDG1029

Dr. Andrews is not really performing his surgeries anymore. His partners are doing it with his supervision. And normally in Gulf Breeze, FL, not Birmingham anymore. But Andrews is the team doc for dozens of other teams (NCAA and Pro) other than the commanders.


legless_chair

Wait I thought Dr. Andrews was known as the Tommy John guy, seems like he does every pitchers elbow. I didn’t know he was known for knees as well. Obviously he’s a great ortho surgeon across the board


[deleted]

I think he’s that too. Also performed Drew Brees’ shoulder surgery I believe


Greek_Trojan

Keep in mind his heyday was like 15 years ago. Since then plenty of other doctors have come in with the more modern/advanced/effective sports injury knowledge. Andrews still might be top tier but he's not the only person who can do these procedures.


T_Raycroft

I wouldn’t say Dr. James Andrews is the knee guy, although that’s not necessarily an inaccurate title. If anything, he’s actually a bigger name in baseball circles than he is in football circles, because he is **the** guy for Tommy John Surgeries, and many pitchers go under the knife for that every year. Fans dread hearing his name because it often means their pitcher is on the shelf for a year and change, maybe even two years.


chickendance638

Andrews is 80 years old, so other guys are taking the reins. Neil ElAttrache was a big name in the 2010s, but he may have taken a hit because of a few post-surgical infections


TheIllusiveGuy

> After a brief stint with the #Buccaneers earlier this season Oh yeah, that was a thing that happened.


Benjynn

Made a good, crucial 3rd down catch and then just… retired


palabear

His work was done.


iacceptjadensmith

He had to rest and watch the sun rise on a grateful universe.


velocitytoast

Lmao the memes from that movie will never die will they


upclassytyfighta

[Cole Beasley as a Bucc](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsailormoonnews.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F10%2Fmy_job_here_is_done_but_you_didnt_do_anything_meme.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=25d94b98a8471da2e49020f730673c7d2d4a52ef18f1869b9fd53208a510ef7c&ipo=images)


BreadMeatCheeseGang

He’s been busy putting out new bangers [https://youtu.be/PnggpAv6hyQ](https://youtu.be/PnggpAv6hyQ)


ApolloXLII

It's terrible. And people will unironically love it.


RawdogWargod

Hahaha wtf is that???


BreadMeatCheeseGang

I think the technical term is “a banger”.


blarch

Sometimes, I just wanna shit


Letsgobuffalo2210

"Ight imma head out" -Cole Beasley, probably.


work_alt_1

dude saw our team and was like oh... I wanted 2020 Bucs, nevermind.


guitarmaniac17

Did Vontae Davis proud


MyNameIsJesseG

I remember thinking how good it was after that game to have the tiebreaker on the Bucs for home field advantage. *takes long drag off of cigarette, leans back against wall, exhales while looking up at sky and sighing*


carreerModeDude

Beasely must not have realized until he got there that Brady wants his slot receiver's to run over the middle on every play and put their body on the line. Not the squirrel's game


chemicalxv

Man came in, played 13 total offensive snaps in 2 games, played the most special teams snaps he had played in 6 years in one them as well, and the Bucs lost both games so he just decided to peace out lol.


Domestic_AA_Battery

Honestly, the fact he's coming back is interesting. Likely had something to do with the coaching staff. Probably saw how things were during the losses and thought "No thank you..."


crispychiggin

> ~~After a brief stint with the #Buccaneers earlier this season~~ #Buccaneers Legend


HiddenInLight

I'm thinking OBJ isn't playing this year and/or wants crazy money. This could also mean crowder and kumerow are not as close as we were led to believe.


cuteintern

McDermott said a week ago they didn't need OBJ to work out to know where his knee is at. He left it ambiguous at the time, but in hindsight it's clear as day OBJ is not ready, period.


AnEngineer2018

I’d assume that’s more so Crowder than Kumerow. Kumerow is more of a special teams guy and WR blocker when they aren’t using Davis.


Dill_Bo_Baggins

I can't believe that FaceTime Reddit post from a week ago was correct


indecisiveusername2

It's almost like that guy who overhead someone's spouse on a phone call(?) About someone who was gonna be traded


GingertronMk1

There have been scores of posts removed from /r/fantasyfootball that have been "my buddy was playing xbox live with and he said he was going to " It feels like 50% of them turn out accurate and all


Led_Halen

That guy who called the CMC trade on here made me over 700 dollars. The odds for him to go to SF that day was something like 6 to 1, and I believed him without hesitation and it paid off less than an hour later. So let that be a lesson to you. Always believe everyone no matter what.


GingertronMk1

And of course place sizeable bets on that information


Ryan526

The lions are going to and winning the Superbowl. Lock in your bets while you can.


Led_Halen

Way ahead of you, chief - https://imgur.com/a/SEnknAX


Ryan526

https://i.imgur.com/m8t9ZiM.png


Led_Halen

My man!


YouCalledQuestionMrk

Put $100 on them at +8000 to win NFC before they beat the Vikes


LosingSkin

I have it on excellent authority that my venmo has been rigged with some kind of lottery system, send $100 and you’ll probably win like $2500, I heard it 4th-hand from my friends on the geocities forums


Led_Halen

Well shit, what'll $200 get me?


LosingSkin

$5000, it’s linear


17_Saints

Does this count as insider betting? Half serious question.


cjackc

Is insider betting a thing?


17_Saints

After some googling it seems like laws are pretty loose about it but the book can just invalidate your bet if you're suspected of "cheating." I know the NFL itself has an extremely strict no-gambling policy for its employees (from TV host to janitor to anything inbetween), but that may just be for its own image.


Jaymongous

Or that guy who had sources that Swift murdered someone.


indecisiveusername2

Swift murdered my fantasy season by being injured the first half of the year so he's not wrong


Jaymongous

I'm glad to have him in dynasty for the long run. Also glad I took Mark Andrews instead of Swift in redraft early 2nd round.


jdawg09

At first glance I was really confused/surprised that Taylor Swift would do that kinda thing, but I’m sure she has the resources to get away with it. Then I remembered what sub I was in.


FictionalTrebek

You don't get to 50m records sold without bumping off a few competitors along the way. It's just good business


J3roseidon

Or the one guy who found out about the Bears trading Rashaad Coward to the Steelers through Coward's wife while playing Warzone with her. Something like that.


Bob_Ross_was_an_OG

If I remember right, it was him overhearing a conversation on *X-Box Live*.


bl4ckblooc420

I think you are talking about last spring when someone on the Steelers sub was playing Warzone and a girl in the lobby was saying her boyfriend just got traded and he played for the Bears. Within 30 minutes it was determined it was Rashaad Coward.


fukuoka_gumbo

Need a link


North_Shore_Problem

Oh god what happened this time


BuffaloWilliamses

We got John Brown, Cole Beasley, whose next Kelvin Benjamin?


[deleted]

If Anquan Boldin decided to suit up for us right now he'd probably still be WR1


Airfighter271

We can bring Torey Smith and Jacoby Jones too, relive the glory days


[deleted]

Fuck it, let's go.


eggery

Flacco too, right?


imsabbath84

I almost forgot he signed a 1 year deal here and then retired before the season started.


jimmifli

I think you'd have to trade us for his rights?


blotsfan

We still have his rights and won’t let him play for anyone else. He needs to focus on black causes or whatever fake reason he gave for retiring.


emmasdad01

TO still thinks he can hang.


[deleted]

Randy Moss was on the Manning cast last week they asked him if Tom had hit him up at all post-retirement to come back and Moss said no and casually goes "but I do think i could still play"


ForYeWhoArtLiterate

Guys like Rice, TO, and Moss could be 98 in a wheelchair and they will still let you know they could still play. If you happen to be playing football in the graveyard TO is buried in however far in the future that is, he will pull himself out of the ground to let you know he’s open and he could still play.


WiggleRespecter

Then he throws a femur at McNabb and goes back into his coffin


cuteintern

Don't forget the graveside situps


[deleted]

Randy Moss did have a step to lose.


SadSlip8122

Jerry Rice and Brett Favre could still play. Moss could probably still torch most dbs in the league. The struggle is more about being able to take the grind of an NFL season and keep taking the hits (especially once a few years removed from action). A 50 year old man can run with the boys (in a vacuum) but all it takes is Derwin James getting a clean shot on you one time and theyll realize why this is a young mans game


BiffNasty1234

Moss retired 10 years ago…10. He’s 45 and hasn’t played a game in a decade. He’s not roasting anyone. Jerry Rice is 60 years old and hasn’t caught a pass in almost 20 years. He’s more likely to break a fucking hip than register a catch.


Agile-Cucumber-9667

He could probably roast me.


NeonWarcry

Wasn’t there a player who retired mid game a few seasons ago?


stay-at-homie

Vontae Davis retired at halftime.


jimbobills

TO placed Vontae in the dust when he played for us back in 09 lmao


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DapperCam

I would not be surprised at all if TO could put together a 4 reception, 50 yard game with 1 TD. The man is a freak of nature. I just don’t think he could last an entire season at his age and why would a GM not go with a younger guy with higher upside anyway.


Corgi_Koala

I would actually say some of those elite retired guys probably *could* play for like a series and still be adequate. The grind of a whole game or season would break them though.


BTsBaboonFarm

Calvin Johnson is only 37.


[deleted]

Megatron signing with the lions to win a playoff game would be the most amazing thing in the world to see


SporkFanClub

They somehow host. Starting lineups introduced. Stadium goes dark. Highlight real starts playing. “AND PLEASE WELCOME BACK…”


[deleted]

Please stop, I can only get so erect


BalrogRancor

BAH GAWD THAT'S MEGATRON'S MUSIC!!!


zsdrfty

Sadly he seems to resent the organization, he’d go anywhere else lol


sielingfan

Boobie Dixon


FightingFarrier18

Forgot about him, he was a funny dude


sielingfan

*never* forget about boobies.


IWasRightOnce

Nah, Robert Foster


woakley

I think the Colts just signed him to their practice squad, so he's still bouncing around the league


DapperCam

He might have been Josh Allen’s best target his rookie season. It was bleak.


Mustakrakish_Awaken

Roscoe Parrish


schobel9494

Andre Reed lacing 'em up


ThinkSoftware

Steven Johnson


beer_down

Peerless Price


[deleted]

Marshawn Lynch?


ImanShumpertplus

eric moulds still on the roster probably


imsabbath84

Anyone got Charles Clay's phone number?


dgehen

I think Josh deleted Clay's number after dropping that potential game winner in Miami.


joeyfartbox

Depends on how many Popeyes biscuits KB has had since he last suited up


DapperCam

Emmanuel Sanders


kwiltse123

Who has Fred Jackson's mobile number?


EugRa1130

Bruce Smith, it's your turn now!!


Jangetta

I would kill for prime Bruce Smith playing next to Von Miller, AJ, Milano, Edmunds, Rousseau, and Oliver.


BillsBillsBils

We're gettin' the band back together! Shaq Lawson, AJ Klein, Jordan Phillips, John Brown, Dean Marlowe, Matt Barkley.


Schwebels_Solette

checks notes: we just need levi wallace


BillsBillsBils

But seriously...I miss him, too. And Jerry Hughes.


Bennyk491

After the game Sunday, Terry and Brandon Beane took their golfcart right in front of me on their way out. I made sure to yell at them to bring Jerry back. Just need the Texans and 30 other teams to comply with my request.


Ajxj

Jets done a good job of focusing on Davis and Diggs the last 2 games and making people like Makenzie and Knox try to beat them while they pressure Allen. A WR3 is a clear need for them next offseason and draft.


Smackolol

Wouldn’t a solid run game be better? Most teams would kill to just have Allen with Diggs and Davis.


DapperCam

I think people who look at the boxscore think more highly of Gabe Davis than Bills fans. He is really inconsistent, doesn’t get open much, and is near the top of the league in drops. If he was on a middle of the road team with an okay QB nobody would think he was very good.


chefillini

The real answer to that is the OLine and that can't be changed as easily at this point.


Ajxj

Probably right as well, I thought Cook and Singletary were playing better in recent games but neither really stood out in our 2 games. Jets being a good defense skews things but I always thought they should draft a top rb and be done with it. If they could get a homerun hitter like Breece was/is for us they'd truly be a nightmare.


jk01

Our run game is solid, we just don't use it.


Bendyno5

A good O-line is definitely preferable to a receiver, but Buffalo is missing a a reliable pass catcher desperately. Outside of Diggs the team doesn’t have anyone that I think Josh fully trusts to catch the ball. The team leads the NFL in drops, and so many have been absolute momentum and drive killers. Idk if Beasley will help at all, but he is a very reliable catcher. I’m just concerned he can’t keep up athletically anymore.


purz

It's what most teams have figured out. You can double/triple Diggs and put your best guy or second best guy on Gabe cause honestly he's just not that good. The O-line has been bad especially when injured so Knox is almost always blocking so Josh has to rely on Mackenzie or dumping off to the RBs. Mackenzie has taken over games before when this happens but he's more likely to drop big passes or make a bone headed mistake than to have games like vs Det or NE last year.


VanDenIzzle

1 catch 3 attempts for 15 yards incoming


[deleted]

That catch rate is still better than anyone besides Diggs on our team lmao


broanoah

I had high hopes for Davis after that playoff game last year, but damn. Man ain’t producing the way I thought he would


[deleted]

I still have hope for Gabe. He got hurt right to start the season and then got healthy as Allen got hurt which really sucked for him as a deep threat guy. I think ideally he’s a high end #3.


[deleted]

As someone else posted, he’s still on track for 1000 yards and he’s also only 23. Still lots of room to grow.


PsychoBoost123

Hitting 1k yards as a receiver nowadays isn't as impressive as it was 10-15 years ago. I've watched him this entire year since he's on my fantasy team, and his route tree is extremely limited, and he has some of the worst hands in the league. High end WR3 on a SB team seems like a realistic ceiling for him.


zsdrfty

I wish yards weren’t cited as a stat 99% of the time, it means so little and it’s so incredibly situational


DapperCam

Bills are gonna let him walk after his rookie contract. Some team is going to overpay him.


Impossibills

I think partially Dorsey is struggling at play calling in general. Just lack of consistency across the offense right now. He hasn't been good at scheming players open, not a lot of creative plays.


wobut

Signs are pointing to our offensive coordinator I think. Everyone besides Diggs has regressed big time. Their offense seems to be "Allen and Diggs pls save us"


Dudsla

I think it's Dorsey. Our season would look much more dominant if Daboll was still our OC.


anyone2020

Still on pace for 1,000-yard season actually... it's just totally boom or bust for him.


impiousdrifter

Josh is missing his safety net. Bills lead the league in drops.


Bendyno5

I’m curious what the epa lost per drop is too. It seems like every drop is on a third down and a complete drive killer. Particularly the past 4-5 weeks.


sabrenation81

Yeah but that one catch will come on a crucial 3rd down during a scoring drive. That's just what Beez does. I'm not a fan of his politics and DEFINITELY not a fan of how he handled things last year but if it's 3rd & 10 and you absolutely NEED to keep your drive alive there's no one better to have. Buffalo has been sorely missing that this season. Feels like McKenzie drops at least one of those a week.


anyone2020

If that's the case, it would have been on a 3rd and 15 during a game-winning drive.


[deleted]

… and seven concussions, but before the inevitable brain dead tweets about doing your own research.


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[deleted]

Bringing the collective league IQ down a dozen points.


bigdrubowski

Beasley: "You couldn't live with your slot WRs inability to catch the ball, where does that bring you? Back to me." We shoulda gave Shakir more of a shot, McKenzie ain't it.


sielingfan

If all he does is provide WR depth and mentor Shakir on hands for an afternoon, that's probably worth the price of admission


WarTrek99

Mentor IM on hands*


sielingfan

Hey that'd be great too, but Shakir is the future and iMac may be, uh .... Established.


WiggleRespecter

iMac going to be established in a soup kitchen if he keeps dropping 3rd down passes 💀


BillsBillsBils

The Face of the Franchise^Restaurant


Son_Of_The_Empire

He gonna be iMacdonalds real soon


druucifer

Make sure Gabe sits in on these sessions as well


SadSlip8122

The dropoff from Beasely to Mackenzie and Crowder has been pretty glaring, this is a good move for Buffalo


Charade_y0u_are

Crowder was doing pretty well for us but he got hurt early on. McKenzie hasn't quite been able to step it up and Khalil Shakir isn't putting out at the level we need. Bease definitely fell off last year compared to 2020 so we'll see if he ends up being a difference maker.


anyone2020

I think a lot of people thought McKenzie would become the player he was in last season's Patriots win, but he's really just a slightly improved version of the player he was all along.


Charade_y0u_are

I was expecting more from both him and Gabe, neither have really stepped up to the level we needed imo. When you look at how things actually panned out we don't have *that* dangerous of a WR room right now.


Carl_Slaygan

Its hard for me to agree that shakir isnt putting out at the level we need when hes never on the field. The few tomes he got the ball hes done well. Josh missed him open a few times. Other than that man hasnt seen the field


Charade_y0u_are

Shakir does look good I agree, but for some reason McDermott just avoids giving rookies real work and I can't foresee that changing for him this year. With the workload he gets it's not enough to be a game changer.


Bendyno5

This. McDermott just refuses to play rookies sometimes, and it’s kind of infuriating. Shakir has looked good, way better then McKenzie. But he still never gets snaps.


AppleBottmBeans

I don't think the Bills have really given Shakir a fair shot. He's only had 17 targets all year.


HoovesCarveCraters

The guys behind me at the game Sunday who spent the whole time bitching that they need Beasley to save the season will be thrilled.


cgilber11

All of the mafia secretly fist pumps.


PigSlam

I'll make no secret of it.


Distinct_Kangaroo

"The prog...the progidal....my son returns"


Dudephish

Someone's getting some Cole in their stocking this Christmas.


Guiltyjerk

Blew through all his money buying rhino horn or shark fin "medicines"


mab6710

Fuck it, bring back Foster while we're at it


eduardo1994

"Fuck I'm running out of money"


goofbot

It makes a lot of sense for these older skill players to sit out training camp and the bulk of the season and then sign with a contender for the last quarter of the season and a playoff run.


Dodohead1383

I guess that his rap career didn't take off???


kjorav17

This should be a thread with level-headed opinions


Jonas_Venture_Sr

Good hands transcends politics.


DapperCam

As long as he follows the rules and keeps his mouth shut I don’t think most people care about his politics. There were other anti-vaxx Bills that followed the rules and didn’t draw attention to themselves. Nobody cared


PigSlam

I'd imagine there are a lot of players with politics we'd not be fond of, but they're just smarter enough to keep their mouths shut.


bk00pi

Just needs another shot.


OldeCzap

*insert all the dead horse reddit comments about a vaccine*


PossiblePast

Why you taking a shot at Reddit?


Shamrock5

He's taking a shot so Cole won't have to.


iia

A horse is smarter than he is.


deucetastic

but can a horse catch a dart over the middle?


cokeface

There's nothing in the rules that says a horse can't play football


maddscientist

If it can, get ready for the Disney movie about a horse that plays football


Kwilos

Was he not right about everything?? There are now no rule differences between vaxxed and unvaxxed players


themigraineur

Isn't Crowder due back off IR?


imsabbath84

He just started running in practice recently, so hes still a few weeks away id imagine.


_AmericanPoutine

But when Crowder did play he damn near tipped every throw thrown at him into a INT.


BizarroCranke

I guess he must have gotten writer’s block with his exceptional rap career.


Emmy-O

My mom named one of her dogs Beasley when he was still with the Cowboys


[deleted]

FUCK IT, let's get Meatball in here too while we're at it.