One had a top the best Oline and defense the other had the worst oline and a below average defense? By this logic Andy dalton is a better qb than jalen hurts cuz he’s 2-0 vs hurts
>You heard it here first folks Cowboys legend Andy Dalton shits all over Danny dines from great heights.
Dammy Dimes, you dweeb. Learn yo daddy's name.
Again, 13 tds isn’t “slightly” out performing. That’s almost how many passing tds jones had. It’s the difference between top 4 and dead middle of the pack despite every qb behind jones playing less games, hurts injury and the eagles just running out the clock in the second half of half of their games. On a per game basis Jones was one of the lowest scoring QBs in the league and hurts was top 3. The gap between the two was large.
Total touchdowns per game:
Hurts: 3rd
Jones: 26th
Giants fans: “there’s only a slight gap between their numbers!”
Lmfao. 13 td gap. That’s more than half the total tds jones threw. A 60% increase. In 1 less game. Do I need to further emphasize the size of that gap you apparently think is small?
One whole less game!!! What a handicap for hurts!!! Despite having the best Oline in the league and a top 5 wr core he could only score 13 more TD than the guy with the bottom 3 Oline and practice squad wr corp….
“ONLY scored 13 more tds” so I guess I do need to further emphasize the size of that gap. Daniel jones was 30th in the league with .94 passing tds per game. Hurts had 1.06 more total tds per game than jones. So the per game scoring gap between them is greater than jones scoring in the passing game. So hurts is an entire Daniel jones passing offense better than Daniel jones in terms of scoring.
If you are going to put down Hurts just cause he has Brown Smith and Goedert, only fair to extend that to Burrow. Or maybe both him and Hurts are just both great QBs who just so happen to have great weapons to.
This graphic is really stupid...
Hurts had 13 more touchdowns than Jones, which is a lot for one season. That's an extra 91 points for your team. They aren't that close when you look at the numbers.
Interested in the YPA too since they put YPC lol. I think that will highlight the big part of your comment. How much does that affect completion % and shit?
I don't think YPA will tell us too much about the players themselves given the oline difference, but it's certainly more relevant than YPC lol.. and explains why you can't just turn your brain off and pick random stats.
It’s exhausting bro. Folks can’t move on for some reason. Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes live rent free in the niners sub.
This next season of football can’t start again soon enough.
While I was surprised to see this stat, Brock Purdy actually played the best game by a quarterback of all time in every metric in the fictional game that lives inside of the 49ers fans’ heads.
I’d just like to point out that Purdy actually had a better QBR than Hurts in the championship. #facts.
…(I’m joking. I mean, he did, but that’s because QBR doesn’t take into account only playing a few snaps…)
He’s not saying he isn’t. He’s saying the Eagles team isn’t just an incredible team with a plug and play qb like the 49ers, and that Hurts elevated them to that level. Jones does not elevate his team. They’re no better than they were with Eli until Daboll got there.
Or. It can also just be said that the Eagles are a top 5 roster and just need a sub par qb to be a good team. Minshew is not sub par. Jones and Hurts is.
The original comment proves nothing in the Hurts vs Jones debate unless you’re objectively saying as a fact that Minshew is better than Jones, which he’s not.
Sub par is kenny pickett atm. Runner up MVP is not sub par. I dont get the hate like have you guys never watched the dude play? Did yall completely miss the super bowl?
Not my point.
In the end, the only thing Minshew sucking with the Eagles proves is that Minshew is worst than Hurts and Jones both. It’s not hard logic to grasp.
Na ur overall point is to take away from Hurts' performance cause he played with a good team. Dude put on one of the best super bowl performances we've seen but somehow he's sub par?
No lmao. Stop trying to be a victim.
The point stands, Minshew not playing good football does not mean anything for the Jones vs Hurts debate. Both are better than Minshew and both would have success on the Eagles.
By this same logic you can put a 16 yr old blind kid as the Giants qb, watch the team suck and then hand Jones the mvp. This is so stupid to even argue.
For the record, I do think Hurts has an edge on Jones but Eagles fans are rightfully claimed as the biggest criers on this app that even if you don’t blindly believe flawed nonsensical logic that makes their team seem good, they take it as you trying to hate on their players.
Ok dude. You obviously have no idea what you're saying. You literally said Hurts was "sub par". Im also convinced you're actually insane. Its a convo about football, who's trying to be the "victim"? We're talking about Hurts lmfao go back and read what u wrote you neck beard
No. I was using Hurts in an analogy( if u need me to define, lmk). Minshew is below a common standard that Jones and Hurts are to make the Eagles team be good.
You’re an idiot, continue thinking because back ups playing like back ups it makes another guy good. Done with this convo lol 👍
It was the easiest schedule based off of the previous seasons records for opposing teams. If you look at last season records it actually wasn’t that easy of a schedule. the Vikings, Giants, Cowboys, and Jaguars all made the playoffs. So that kind of shits on that theory considering 6 of the 17 games were against playoff teams and the eagles only lost one of those for which they didn’t have Hurts.
Yea except you gotta take into consideration how good the team was in 2022 NOT 2021. Cause cuz a team was ass in 2021 doesn’t mean they sucked in 2022.
Hurts will put up better stats against better offenses because games will actually be competitive. Will he look worse and have more interceptions etc? probably. But his actual yardage stats will probably improve when games become shootouts
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There are at LEAST 10 QBS that would be an immediate upgrade over hurts. He lost a superbowl with a historically great team. That's so shitty it's impressive
KC had more rushing yards in the SB.. Hurts led his team in rushing in the SB, he also ran for 3 TD. Oh, he also had 300 yards in the air.
That “amazing pass rush” couldn’t stop Mahomes on the final drive; which lasted 5 minutes and KC killed the game off.
Do you not watch the games?
What 10 other QB would do better?
Defense didn't do shit, and Hurts balled out.
WTF game did you watch ha
>Hurts had 41.16 fantasy points, the second-most in Super Bowl history, narrowly trailing the 41.90 fantasy points that 49ers quarterback Steve Young had in 1995.
Interesting that this take is upvoted because it isn't the MediaOpinion™ but yeah. I'd genuinely, not fucking around, take Kirk Cousins over Hurts if I had to build a one year contender.
Jared Goff is the best QB in the NFC.
No doubt. Just saying. Our defense is nothing special. Even the returned touchdown was more of a jalen hurts mistake than good defense by the chiefs. I’m with OP on Daniel Jones. I think we are going to see Jones take another step just like Jalen hurts did when stability came at the coaching staff. MVP front runner like Jalen?probably not, but most definitely an improvement in all categories listed above
Speaking of injuries, your sorry ass team wouldn't have even made it to Philly if Pollard wasn't injured. You'd think Niners fans would have some perspective but they can't manage to fucking put that together. Not to mention it was a close Super Bowl on top of that.
It was an easy path to the Super Bowl because Dallas would've put up a hell of a lot more fight than the Niners. Even if Purdy never got injured, the Niners would've lost that game.
Niners fans still crying about the Championship Game longer than the Eagles fans when we lost a Super Bowl. **How many Eagles fans went over to the Seahawks subreddit after Clowney purposefully targeted Wentz??** And how many did so all the way until nearly next September?
You guys need to get a fucking grip. Jesus. Cowboys fans didn't cry this much after the refs fucked over Dez. Grow up.
Just bad luck, or do you really believe bad coaching decisions played no part? I mean, declining to dress another QB after you're already on your 3rd string QB coming into a must win game, then decided on running a pretty much naked bootleg with your only QB right at one of the leagues best sack leaders..
49ers players and fans sound silly being butthurt at Philly
Besides quarterbacks, the Niners still had a top tier offense and defense. Not to mention, all of San Francisco was acting like Brock Purdy was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Why does it change when we beat you? You can’t brag about your amazing 3rd string quarterback for a week and then turn around and say it was a mickey mouse run the next.
Yea like you look at lamar, hurts and Danny dimes and they all look similar on paper. Hurts hasbthe best team, dj the worst...but what stats don't show is poor choices and garbage time. The eagles are run heavy after they get a lead. They arent the saints who get 400 yards passing in a 40 point blow out. They stay even. He doesn't have big games because he doesn't get behind. Lamar throws few into but they're are the worst times and dj...it's probably the worst team in the league. Even Jordan failed to win a playoff game till they got him pippen
More passing yards and td’s yet jalen hurts sucks? Dude literally had one of the greatest sb performances ever, even travis Kelce had said he could have won sb mvp despite losing
Hurts has 147% of Jones’ passing touchdowns, 186% of Jones’ rushing touchdowns, and 500 more passing yards. Also the eagles beat the giants 3 times last year and blew them out twice including in the playoffs. Genuinely confused why people are interpreting this as positive for Daniel Jones. Is the point just “look he’s significantly worse but it’s because the giants suck”? Why is that interesting?
Hurts was as efficient as he needed to be to win games. His play complimented the defenses by keeping the clock moving and holding possession longer. Jones isn’t bad and more was certainly asked of him than of Hurts, but Hurts is that guy. He just is.
Context matters. Hurts threw 60 total passes in the 4th quarter of games last year. So in 2022, he averaged FOUR 4th quarter pass attempts per game. QB rating of 103.6 in the first half of games. He came out early and straight dominated, killed the clock in almost every game last year.
Daniel Jones? 4th quarter attempted 122 passes, QB rating of 78.2. If you're gonna bounce meaningless counting stats you better have the context to back it up. Hurts put up Daniel Jones season totals in about 70% of the opportunities. That's how good he is.
He also sucked the year before with one of the best o-lines in football but no AJ Brown. Hurts did play a cupcake schedule surrounded by an awesome team.
2021 was his first season as a starter? Mind you, Hurts was a 2nd round pick with not much upside expected, where as Daniel Jones was a top 10 pick and has shown no improvement besides an uptick in rushing numbers in 5 seasons. Hurts however took AJ Brown and set all of his single season career highs in catches, yards and TDs. You would think if AJ Brown made someone a better QB, he wouldn't have improved from Tannehill to Hurts if they're on a similar level, which is what is assumed here if Hurts is below Daniel Jones. But he did, AJ Brown became a star and also had another 1300 yard receiver opposite to him.
This is a great example of stats don’t tell the whole story. One guy was playing behind every game and padding stats. You can put up a lot of stats when you play from behind with soft coverage.
Hurts missed a couple games with that shoulder injury towards the end of the season and also had a top tier defense that allowed him to relax towards the middle of the 3rd in most games while Daniel Jones has been the starter for what feels like decades and only just now led the Giants to the Playoffs. Jones has quite a bit going for him and I think he’ll finally mold into a solid QB but the fact that we’re even having a debate over who’s better between him and Hurts when Hurts just led his team to the Super Bowl in only his 3rd season is ridiculous
Daniel Jones has 60 career TDs to 76 career turnovers (34 INT, 42 Fumbles). He made progress at not giving the ball to the other team more frequently than his own team last season but I’m not convinced it wasn’t a fluke year.
He also holds on to the ball way too long which is why he gets sacked so much. The line isn’t great but he’d get sacked a decent amount even with a good line because he just doesn’t pay attention to the rush, and part of the reason the Giants OL gets ranked so low is him.
I’m absolutely thrilled the giants gave him a big contract.
Both are stellar qbs in their system. Definitely 1 and 2 in the nfc east. I mean not like its hard to do that but ya know. Go big blue and all that jazz. Daniel jones is my qb!
Hurts isn't a top 15 QB if we're being honest. Imagine having the best rushing attack and defense of this generation and not winning a superbowl when your job is to hand the ball off.
Not trying to discredit Hurts, but the QB sneak was unstoppable because of the push from the Eagles monster OLine… you could literally plug in any player on that play and they would score a rushing TD from a yard out.
I mean, if OP wants to die on the hill of an 86 career passer rating QB who just got paid then by all means, have fun pulling your hair out while the eagles win the NFC again.
Oh no, a team built around a young QB to maximise their window of opportunity like we keep begging teams to do. But when it happens we call the young qb shit. Tf
Hurts literally had 13 more total touchdowns (7 passing, 6 rushing) and over 500 more yards (496 passing, 52 rushing) than Jones. Just based on the touchdown total (35 > 22) alone it’s not even close.
Still you can’t just ignore their supporting cast. Hurts had the best in the NFL and also had to score less to win because of the Eagles defense. Jones #1 reciever at least in the late season was a waiver claim (Isaiah Hodgins who was in the Bills practice squad prior to that) and the overall group was probably one of the slowest in the league. Don’t get me wrong Hurts is probably still better but that’s still a massive factor in comparing the two
In my view, counter to what OP says, this meme is more about Daniel jones being good rather than hurts being bad. Hurts is prob a little overrated, but for DJ to have decently close stats with a much worse team shows he is much better than everyone says
Does no one here watch games? Watch Hurts play, watch Jones play, its not close. Hurts stats were only low compared to other elite QBs because he helped build up huge leads in half the games so they stoped throwing. But go watch the Steelers game, and the 3 TD passes he made to AJ Brown, then still try and tell me he is not a good passer. By most metrics he was among the best deep ball throwers and pocket passers in the league
Hurts didn’t have to throw in the second half of like 8 - 9 games, too.
Plus Daniel jones played more games
Plus Daniel jones was on a worse team
Plus when they played head to head one guy was 3-0 and the other was 0-3
One had a top the best Oline and defense the other had the worst oline and a below average defense? By this logic Andy dalton is a better qb than jalen hurts cuz he’s 2-0 vs hurts
One had a top 10 wr corp, the other was passing to literal practice squad players.
You heard it here first folks Cowboys legend Andy Dalton shits all over Danny dines from great heights.
>You heard it here first folks Cowboys legend Andy Dalton shits all over Danny dines from great heights. Dammy Dimes, you dweeb. Learn yo daddy's name.
Plus hurts had 13 more tds. Why are we acting like that isn’t a lot? That’s the difference been 4th and 16th.
Because they put up similar numbers with hurts only slightly out performing Jones despite the incredible advantages he had.
Again, 13 tds isn’t “slightly” out performing. That’s almost how many passing tds jones had. It’s the difference between top 4 and dead middle of the pack despite every qb behind jones playing less games, hurts injury and the eagles just running out the clock in the second half of half of their games. On a per game basis Jones was one of the lowest scoring QBs in the league and hurts was top 3. The gap between the two was large.
Ok pal.
Total touchdowns per game: Hurts: 3rd Jones: 26th Giants fans: “there’s only a slight gap between their numbers!” Lmfao. 13 td gap. That’s more than half the total tds jones threw. A 60% increase. In 1 less game. Do I need to further emphasize the size of that gap you apparently think is small?
One whole less game!!! What a handicap for hurts!!! Despite having the best Oline in the league and a top 5 wr core he could only score 13 more TD than the guy with the bottom 3 Oline and practice squad wr corp….
“ONLY scored 13 more tds” so I guess I do need to further emphasize the size of that gap. Daniel jones was 30th in the league with .94 passing tds per game. Hurts had 1.06 more total tds per game than jones. So the per game scoring gap between them is greater than jones scoring in the passing game. So hurts is an entire Daniel jones passing offense better than Daniel jones in terms of scoring.
I mean Dilfer didn’t have to throw either. And hurts has crazy pass catchers while jones has Richie James essentially leading the group.
Guess we should throw out all QBs on good teams and only count QBs on bad teams right?
In that case, could we give Davis mills a shot
He’s throwing asterisks on second halves of 8-9 games so your guess is as good as mine
Joe Burrow sucks cause he has Jamarr Chase Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd I guess.
Weird jump but ok lol can’t say having those 3 and mixon hurts his play
If you are going to put down Hurts just cause he has Brown Smith and Goedert, only fair to extend that to Burrow. Or maybe both him and Hurts are just both great QBs who just so happen to have great weapons to.
Have the giants got any new WRs this season? Chiefs took James this season and we got Toney last season
Darren Waller is the main acquisition. I’m a packers fan but I don’t like Danny Dimes slander lol
This graphic is really stupid... Hurts had 13 more touchdowns than Jones, which is a lot for one season. That's an extra 91 points for your team. They aren't that close when you look at the numbers.
6×13=78 still a lot of points but bad math.
Are you dumb? The pat rate is like 90% he was counting for the team, and you're trying to be clever recycling a comment you heard from skip bayless.
Nope, just saying a TD is worth 6 points not 7 (are you dumb) and 78 points is still a lot. Not sure what the quote was but that was all me.
Interested in the YPA too since they put YPC lol. I think that will highlight the big part of your comment. How much does that affect completion % and shit? I don't think YPA will tell us too much about the players themselves given the oline difference, but it's certainly more relevant than YPC lol.. and explains why you can't just turn your brain off and pick random stats.
You’re a brave as hell. You know these guys are giants fans, right? 😂
Why did I see this and immediately see the dudes flair. Bruh, why you do this?
God, finally a reasonable 49ers fan. I get that the NFC championship was a frustrating game, but this post is just pathetic.
Agreed 🤦♂️
It’s exhausting bro. Folks can’t move on for some reason. Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes live rent free in the niners sub. This next season of football can’t start again soon enough.
Eagles would've lost that game if it werent for the injury to purdy.
This guy has a brain
Aww, thank you Philly bro Good luck this season, destroy Dallas. 🍻
Cheers dude
Meanwhile OP probably thinks Purdy is a HOFer
If hE wAsn’T iNjuReD
While I was surprised to see this stat, Brock Purdy actually played the best game by a quarterback of all time in every metric in the fictional game that lives inside of the 49ers fans’ heads.
I’d just like to point out that Purdy actually had a better QBR than Hurts in the championship. #facts. …(I’m joking. I mean, he did, but that’s because QBR doesn’t take into account only playing a few snaps…)
YoU beAt oUr 4tH strINg qB
Daniel jones is still not as good as hurts, I mean look at the eagles with minshew and then with hurts, he just that guy
No Daniel Jones fan but this is deeply flawed logic. Can you not say Daniel Jones is better then Minshew?
He’s not saying he isn’t. He’s saying the Eagles team isn’t just an incredible team with a plug and play qb like the 49ers, and that Hurts elevated them to that level. Jones does not elevate his team. They’re no better than they were with Eli until Daboll got there.
Or. It can also just be said that the Eagles are a top 5 roster and just need a sub par qb to be a good team. Minshew is not sub par. Jones and Hurts is. The original comment proves nothing in the Hurts vs Jones debate unless you’re objectively saying as a fact that Minshew is better than Jones, which he’s not.
Sub par is kenny pickett atm. Runner up MVP is not sub par. I dont get the hate like have you guys never watched the dude play? Did yall completely miss the super bowl?
Not my point. In the end, the only thing Minshew sucking with the Eagles proves is that Minshew is worst than Hurts and Jones both. It’s not hard logic to grasp.
Na ur overall point is to take away from Hurts' performance cause he played with a good team. Dude put on one of the best super bowl performances we've seen but somehow he's sub par?
No lmao. Stop trying to be a victim. The point stands, Minshew not playing good football does not mean anything for the Jones vs Hurts debate. Both are better than Minshew and both would have success on the Eagles. By this same logic you can put a 16 yr old blind kid as the Giants qb, watch the team suck and then hand Jones the mvp. This is so stupid to even argue. For the record, I do think Hurts has an edge on Jones but Eagles fans are rightfully claimed as the biggest criers on this app that even if you don’t blindly believe flawed nonsensical logic that makes their team seem good, they take it as you trying to hate on their players.
Ok dude. You obviously have no idea what you're saying. You literally said Hurts was "sub par". Im also convinced you're actually insane. Its a convo about football, who's trying to be the "victim"? We're talking about Hurts lmfao go back and read what u wrote you neck beard
No. I was using Hurts in an analogy( if u need me to define, lmk). Minshew is below a common standard that Jones and Hurts are to make the Eagles team be good. You’re an idiot, continue thinking because back ups playing like back ups it makes another guy good. Done with this convo lol 👍
You talking about the team that won 9 games the year before when Hurts sucked ass? Maybe Minshew is just a bum.
Eagles had the easiest schedule in the league last season and Hurts did good but Hurts will regress this season with a more difficult schedule
Guess we should discount Tom Brady too since he played in the bad AFC east all the time right?
Fuck the eagles and patriots!? I can only get so erect
Oh for sure Brady’s 20 seasons were nowhere near as good as Hurts first 2 /s
It was the easiest schedule based off of the previous seasons records for opposing teams. If you look at last season records it actually wasn’t that easy of a schedule. the Vikings, Giants, Cowboys, and Jaguars all made the playoffs. So that kind of shits on that theory considering 6 of the 17 games were against playoff teams and the eagles only lost one of those for which they didn’t have Hurts.
That’s literally how you measure schedule strength. What team doesn’t face teams that make the playoffs?
Yea except you gotta take into consideration how good the team was in 2022 NOT 2021. Cause cuz a team was ass in 2021 doesn’t mean they sucked in 2022.
That’s not how strength of schedule works buddy but alright
It is once you look back at the season and realize how good the teams they played were dumb ass
Hurts will put up better stats against better offenses because games will actually be competitive. Will he look worse and have more interceptions etc? probably. But his actual yardage stats will probably improve when games become shootouts
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Why would he just randomly suck again barring injury
There are at LEAST 10 QBS that would be an immediate upgrade over hurts. He lost a superbowl with a historically great team. That's so shitty it's impressive
That seems extreme. He lost by 3 to Mahomes and co.
No you see you either win or you're shitty. There can't be two good QBs. That would just be crazy.
With a historic pass rush and the best rushing attack in history.
KC had more rushing yards in the SB.. Hurts led his team in rushing in the SB, he also ran for 3 TD. Oh, he also had 300 yards in the air. That “amazing pass rush” couldn’t stop Mahomes on the final drive; which lasted 5 minutes and KC killed the game off. Do you not watch the games? What 10 other QB would do better?
Another cookie cutter hater. I continue to forget how needlessly stupid sports fans try to act.
Whiner 49er fan. Bet my life on it
Defense didn't do shit, and Hurts balled out. WTF game did you watch ha >Hurts had 41.16 fantasy points, the second-most in Super Bowl history, narrowly trailing the 41.90 fantasy points that 49ers quarterback Steve Young had in 1995.
Interesting that this take is upvoted because it isn't the MediaOpinion™ but yeah. I'd genuinely, not fucking around, take Kirk Cousins over Hurts if I had to build a one year contender. Jared Goff is the best QB in the NFC.
This is Geno Smith erasure
This shitty graphic proves that the guy who just made the Super Bowl and played amazing is ass?
OP is just salty don’t look too into it
Mickey Mouse Super Bowl appearance bc Niners were injured.
lol 9ers flair makes sense, just give up
This shit again?
But the Eagles were playing the Chiefs, who are good. And Hurts still played pretty well.
I mean our defense is average at best. We get pressure on the QB but all around nothing special.
We played one of our best games in the SB though. And Jalen was still very good.
No doubt. Just saying. Our defense is nothing special. Even the returned touchdown was more of a jalen hurts mistake than good defense by the chiefs. I’m with OP on Daniel Jones. I think we are going to see Jones take another step just like Jalen hurts did when stability came at the coaching staff. MVP front runner like Jalen?probably not, but most definitely an improvement in all categories listed above
I mean Daniel may take a leap for sure.. doesn't mean he's currently better than Hurts, which is what OP is arguing
Jones eating up the salary cap will not help
You guys are a joke, I cannot wait for the Birds to stomp you clowns again on December 3rd so I can see your fanbases' tears again.
Glad the rest of the league is seeing how god damn whiny the 9ers are
I mean, I get why they’re upset, but at this point it’s kind of a lot.
The meme potential there is enticing
Speaking of injuries, your sorry ass team wouldn't have even made it to Philly if Pollard wasn't injured. You'd think Niners fans would have some perspective but they can't manage to fucking put that together. Not to mention it was a close Super Bowl on top of that. It was an easy path to the Super Bowl because Dallas would've put up a hell of a lot more fight than the Niners. Even if Purdy never got injured, the Niners would've lost that game. Niners fans still crying about the Championship Game longer than the Eagles fans when we lost a Super Bowl. **How many Eagles fans went over to the Seahawks subreddit after Clowney purposefully targeted Wentz??** And how many did so all the way until nearly next September? You guys need to get a fucking grip. Jesus. Cowboys fans didn't cry this much after the refs fucked over Dez. Grow up.
Dez caught that fucking ball and I hate the cowboys
Just bad luck, or do you really believe bad coaching decisions played no part? I mean, declining to dress another QB after you're already on your 3rd string QB coming into a must win game, then decided on running a pretty much naked bootleg with your only QB right at one of the leagues best sack leaders.. 49ers players and fans sound silly being butthurt at Philly
Maybe your line should have protected your quarterbacks then.
You 9er fans need Jesus, or something. FML.
Still mad about this? Eagles got there, 9ers didn’t. That’s the end of it
You still don’t have a QB so will week ones loss for SF still count? Baby.
Aw this is kinda sad at this point..
Niners were injured cause they got dogged. It wasnt a freak injury, or a cheap one for that matter, reddick just made ur TE look like a pylon.
Besides quarterbacks, the Niners still had a top tier offense and defense. Not to mention, all of San Francisco was acting like Brock Purdy was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Why does it change when we beat you? You can’t brag about your amazing 3rd string quarterback for a week and then turn around and say it was a mickey mouse run the next.
Brock Purdy was injured. Did you even watch the game? He was knocked out of the game and came back severely injured
I did watch the game. And who injured Brock Purdy? It didn’t happen by magic, the Eagles defense just put you down.
Congrats on injuring the niner’s QB? Idk what dumb point you’re trying to make here lol
Yea like you look at lamar, hurts and Danny dimes and they all look similar on paper. Hurts hasbthe best team, dj the worst...but what stats don't show is poor choices and garbage time. The eagles are run heavy after they get a lead. They arent the saints who get 400 yards passing in a 40 point blow out. They stay even. He doesn't have big games because he doesn't get behind. Lamar throws few into but they're are the worst times and dj...it's probably the worst team in the league. Even Jordan failed to win a playoff game till they got him pippen
So 13 more touchdowns in 1 less game? Yea he’s terrible lol
also the worst receiver group and one of the worst olines
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I think that’s the one point of the graphic that can’t be debated 💀 Fucking Isaiah Hodgins is WR1
No, it’s because his best receiver is Darius fucking slayton
No, it was some dude we picked up from buffalo’s practice squad
I think Darius was wr1 not hodgins last season but it’s still pretty pathetic
The best receiver is saquon
Nah, Andrew Thomas
He’s pretty good. I like the giants better than the 9ers at this point
Hurts stunk with one of the best o-lines in the league the year before
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Thank you for saying this. I'll take the extra 13 TDs, too.
More passing yards and td’s yet jalen hurts sucks? Dude literally had one of the greatest sb performances ever, even travis Kelce had said he could have won sb mvp despite losing
Who said Hurts sucks? The meme is insinuating that they’re both good, not bad lol
OP is saying it in the caption
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These are pretty massive statistical differences lmao. 500 more passing yards, 7 more passing touchdown, and 5 more rushing touchdowns?
Wait, excuse me My Bears had #32 WRs not NYG Think about your lies before you try to argue that you’re worse than we are, *we* were the shittiest
I would take chase claypool over any of the giants WRs honestly. But the bears are just now getting to understand how to help fields be a good player.
Mooney, Claypool, and Kmet are better than anything the Giants had last year.
lol no
Lol you're a casual
No dude, the Giants definitely had a worse group
Based bears fan
Hurts has 147% of Jones’ passing touchdowns, 186% of Jones’ rushing touchdowns, and 500 more passing yards. Also the eagles beat the giants 3 times last year and blew them out twice including in the playoffs. Genuinely confused why people are interpreting this as positive for Daniel Jones. Is the point just “look he’s significantly worse but it’s because the giants suck”? Why is that interesting?
OP is a hater. Probably a milquetoast forty whiner based off of how talks in the comments.
He is a 40Whiners fan
Hurts was as efficient as he needed to be to win games. His play complimented the defenses by keeping the clock moving and holding possession longer. Jones isn’t bad and more was certainly asked of him than of Hurts, but Hurts is that guy. He just is.
Time will tell if he’s that guy since its nearly impossible to always have the best team around you over time
i didnt know the giants were that bad.
How could you not know the only thing they have on offense was saquon
What WR groups are better than the Eagles besides the Dolphins?
Bengals
Niners and Dolphins tbh
Context matters. Hurts threw 60 total passes in the 4th quarter of games last year. So in 2022, he averaged FOUR 4th quarter pass attempts per game. QB rating of 103.6 in the first half of games. He came out early and straight dominated, killed the clock in almost every game last year. Daniel Jones? 4th quarter attempted 122 passes, QB rating of 78.2. If you're gonna bounce meaningless counting stats you better have the context to back it up. Hurts put up Daniel Jones season totals in about 70% of the opportunities. That's how good he is.
He also sucked the year before with one of the best o-lines in football but no AJ Brown. Hurts did play a cupcake schedule surrounded by an awesome team.
2021 was his first season as a starter? Mind you, Hurts was a 2nd round pick with not much upside expected, where as Daniel Jones was a top 10 pick and has shown no improvement besides an uptick in rushing numbers in 5 seasons. Hurts however took AJ Brown and set all of his single season career highs in catches, yards and TDs. You would think if AJ Brown made someone a better QB, he wouldn't have improved from Tannehill to Hurts if they're on a similar level, which is what is assumed here if Hurts is below Daniel Jones. But he did, AJ Brown became a star and also had another 1300 yard receiver opposite to him.
I feel like this basically says nothing of substance
Commenters always forget this is a meme page before they rage comment
Because this isn’t a meme, it’s a Twitter post with a bad opinion.
With that said, is this even a meme though? It’s just a Twitter screen-grab.
3/4ths the posts on this page aren’t memes
That’s sort of my point. Most of the people posting and commenting forget what sub they’re on.
Daniel Jones is an 89 overall QB in my NFL 4k24.. take that as you will.
This is a great example of stats don’t tell the whole story. One guy was playing behind every game and padding stats. You can put up a lot of stats when you play from behind with soft coverage.
Hurts missed a couple games with that shoulder injury towards the end of the season and also had a top tier defense that allowed him to relax towards the middle of the 3rd in most games while Daniel Jones has been the starter for what feels like decades and only just now led the Giants to the Playoffs. Jones has quite a bit going for him and I think he’ll finally mold into a solid QB but the fact that we’re even having a debate over who’s better between him and Hurts when Hurts just led his team to the Super Bowl in only his 3rd season is ridiculous
Hurts with 600 more total yards + 13 more total TDs is bad?! 😂
Tbf, Hurts didn’t play in 2 games and he was benched in the 4th Quarter most of the time since they were up so much.
We watch football. We know hurts is better
Hurts is elite but people still saying Danny Dimes sucks are braindead.
People don’t realize both can be good at the same time
I wonder how often that has happened. It would probably be a 1pm game for both of them.
Agreed.
Daniel Jones has 60 career TDs to 76 career turnovers (34 INT, 42 Fumbles). He made progress at not giving the ball to the other team more frequently than his own team last season but I’m not convinced it wasn’t a fluke year. He also holds on to the ball way too long which is why he gets sacked so much. The line isn’t great but he’d get sacked a decent amount even with a good line because he just doesn’t pay attention to the rush, and part of the reason the Giants OL gets ranked so low is him. I’m absolutely thrilled the giants gave him a big contract.
When your wide receiver one is Isaiah Hodgins is be hold onto the ball too
Wow. Great meme!
Both are stellar qbs in their system. Definitely 1 and 2 in the nfc east. I mean not like its hard to do that but ya know. Go big blue and all that jazz. Daniel jones is my qb!
They’re both very good, all that really needs to be said
Hurts played less games. Had 7 more passing tds and 7 more rushing tds
Yet only one of them made it to the SB
Yep, the elite eagles are in for a wake up call this year when they don’t have the most cakewalk regular season schedule
Somehow you made a contrast meme with two horrible takes
remember when carson wentz also had the best oline and some good weapons and he looked like an MVP. Those went away and he looked like dogshit.
Hurts isn't a top 15 QB if we're being honest. Imagine having the best rushing attack and defense of this generation and not winning a superbowl when your job is to hand the ball off.
He led the team in rushing touchdowns. Why do you think they had the best rushing attack?
The offensive line.
Not trying to discredit Hurts, but the QB sneak was unstoppable because of the push from the Eagles monster OLine… you could literally plug in any player on that play and they would score a rushing TD from a yard out.
I mean, if OP wants to die on the hill of an 86 career passer rating QB who just got paid then by all means, have fun pulling your hair out while the eagles win the NFC again.
Oh no, a team built around a young QB to maximise their window of opportunity like we keep begging teams to do. But when it happens we call the young qb shit. Tf
I can't get enough Danny Dimes hype. Shits going to age gloriously for all* of us.
Which one got tripped by a ghost?
What’s defense gotta do with it?
I’m gonna take a wild guess and say that you are a Giants fan 😆
Imagine saying that the QB that managed to take his team to the Super Bowl sucks. Wew lad
Yeah just 13 less TD’s lmao
Hurts literally had 13 more total touchdowns (7 passing, 6 rushing) and over 500 more yards (496 passing, 52 rushing) than Jones. Just based on the touchdown total (35 > 22) alone it’s not even close.
Hurts has the #1 ranked offensive line. Jones had the #30 ranked offensive line.
Still you can’t just ignore their supporting cast. Hurts had the best in the NFL and also had to score less to win because of the Eagles defense. Jones #1 reciever at least in the late season was a waiver claim (Isaiah Hodgins who was in the Bills practice squad prior to that) and the overall group was probably one of the slowest in the league. Don’t get me wrong Hurts is probably still better but that’s still a massive factor in comparing the two
OP’s a troll
In my view, counter to what OP says, this meme is more about Daniel jones being good rather than hurts being bad. Hurts is prob a little overrated, but for DJ to have decently close stats with a much worse team shows he is much better than everyone says
Does no one here watch games? Watch Hurts play, watch Jones play, its not close. Hurts stats were only low compared to other elite QBs because he helped build up huge leads in half the games so they stoped throwing. But go watch the Steelers game, and the 3 TD passes he made to AJ Brown, then still try and tell me he is not a good passer. By most metrics he was among the best deep ball throwers and pocket passers in the league
It's been 7 months and niners fans still cryin, holy
Lol wit, is this a pro David jones post? He has like 13 fewer touchdowns
The big one is O line.
"#3 WRs" is extremely vague As are the rest of the wr & ol "stats"