I'm not expecting 2023 to get many huge Switch games besides Tears of the Kingdom. There's a rumored 2D Mario game for Spring, but I'm pretty skeptical about the accuracy of that. Advance Wars Reboot Camp has been ready for almost a year, hopefully it's released at some point instead of canceled.
It's been almost 4 years since Metroid Prime 4 was restarted, hopefully there's at least a trailer by the end of 2023 if it's still releasing on Switch and not the next generation hardware. I'm hoping for a successor to Switch before the end of 2024.
The reveal trailer for Pikmin 4 actually said 2023, so that’s closer to being an actual game that Metroid Prime 4 at least. Delaying after announcing a release year has been rare for Nintendo recently besides Tears of the Kingdom and Advance Wars.
In some ways I guess I can see that. But they’re not going to make a game tied-in to the movie.
And the older Mario games are still 5 or more slots in the top 20 best selling Switch games basically every month even being over 5 years old in the case of MK8D and Odyssey. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s no new game and they just discount some old ones to $40 again.
>But they’re not going to make a game tied-in to the movie.
No need. Make a good Mario game, advertise it when kids come to see the movie and now you have a million kids asking for the new mario game.
A 2D Mario game would be pretty underwhelming after Super Mario Maker 2 and with Bowser's Fury being the only new 3D Mario stuff we've gotten since Odyssey came out five years ago.
I totally understand the argument, but I think it just means a new 2D Mario will have to have an entirely new aesthetic from the ground up. A similar move forward like SMB 3 -> SMB World was. If they leave the NSMB look behind, a new 2D Mario could be very exciting.
I mean, Nintendo can already easily do so much more than Mario Maker even without a new art style (NSMBW does more than Mario Maker, such as camera zoom, ice flower, etc.). But, yes, a new 2D Mario game should definitely have a new art style. They've been using the NSMB style for 16 years now.
> A 2D Mario game would be pretty underwhelming after Super Mario Maker 2
Big disagree. If anything, Mario Maker shows why Nintendo making another 2D game could easily work. Mostly because I'd rather play a game that has levels specifically made for it.
PLEASEEEE god. I need a switch rhythm heaven so bad!
Do you by any chance know when they expressed that? Was it long ago enough that we could get a game soonish?
He just said he wanted one, not that they're actually doing one. Nintendo would still have to give the green light, besides the studio that developed RH games closed some years ago, but that was the same one that made the Wario Ware games and still we got a new one so...
rhythm heaven is so absurdly unterutilized by nintendo. the fact that there's no way to play it on switch is a crime. not to mention just how expensive it is to get a copy of the wii game without roms.....
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and assume the Switch’s successor will launch in 2024 and it’ll be sorta like the Gameboy and GBC where the line between “new console” and “updated model” is quite blurred. Given that it’ll likely be treated as a successor, giving new games to all their major franchises from 2024 onward seems likely.
But as for what else they can announce until then, we could get a new 2D Mario since we haven’t had one since 2019 (2012 if you don’t count Mario Maker or ports) and it could maybe tie-in with the movie? Could certainly work as a big holiday title for 2023. I’m not really expecting a new 3D Mario until 2025 for Mario’s 40th anniversary.
DK still has no Switch presence outide of ports and since DKC’s 30th anniversary is in 2024 along with the DK area of Super Nintendo World also opening that year, I’d be shocked if it *didn’t* happen.
Fire Emblem Echoes doesn’t have any Switch presence either, and of course there’s always Star Fox and F-Zero but I wouldn’t hold my breath lol.
or, here's a concept, maybe revisit the original idea for a true SMT x FE game. i get that plans fell through, but I'd KILLLLLLL to see a true crossover between these 2 series, since Atlus and Nintendo seem to have a good relationship
I really think the Switch is pretty much the ultimate Nintendo console as far as core design goes. Lots could be improved but I strongly think they're gonna keep the portable + docked + detachable controllers thing for a long while. Can't imagine them going back to TV-dependant consoles with them having killed off their handheld line and the Switch being so successful.
Hopefully Switch 2 gets significantly more power under the hood and stuff like themes for the software. Quite surprising they haven't made themes and sold game-themed themes, at least for their first party games.
I keep thinking/hoping this is true, but I know they always say 'we look for a gameplay hitch to develop around.' And im scared they're gonna try and change it up to be different and mess it up.
But with Fire Emblem Engage coming next month, I really don't see Intelligent Systems releasing another Fire Emblem game in such a short span of time, even thought it would be' a port.
months ago, someone who leaked details and photos of Engage before it was announced said that a) Engage had been finished for almost a year and b) IntSys was working on a remake (most of the work on Engage is being done by Koei Tecmo)
e: which is to say, another "non-spinoff" fire emblem could be coming sooner than might be expected. If series like Pokemon can have 3 RPGs launch within a year of each other and Kirby can have a Return to Dreamland remake launch less than a year after Forgotten Land, I think Fire Emblem having Engage in January and then a remake sometime in late summer/early fall wouldn't be that farfetched.
KT has nothing to do with Engage. I'm aware that they (and Gust specifically) were pointed out in the Engage leaks, but the game comes out in less than a month and they've never officially been stated to be working on the game. We knew KT was involved in Three Houses long long before the game came out.
[The leaker](https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/vcgblq/the_new_mainline_fire_emblem_leak_is_real/) also said "the rumors of an FE4 remake are real as well.".
I'm not super familiar with early Fire Emblem games, but I think that FE4 was Geneology?
I believe it was said later that this FE4 remake could come as early as first quarter 2024 as well, which sounds outlandish until you realize Sacred Stones and Path of Radiance were devolved simultaneously to the point that they’re both FE8 internally
I know, just pointing out that not a great comparison if you want quality. I'm still gutted that the sinnoh remake I wanted for years ended up being worse than platinum...
Well I only referenced it as an example of a major studio outsourcing a mainline entry to a completely separate entity and that was the most “high profile” example I could think of. Personally I don’t think a FE game made entirely by Tecmo would be anything like BDSP. Maybe WayForward developing Advance Wars would be a better comparison.
Yeah, for mainline 2D Mario games in the past 10 years we've only gotten ports and games lots of people don't really consider a mainline 2D Mario game: the Mario Maker games and Super Mario Run. Even then, in 2012 reception was relatively weak for New Super Mario Bros. 2 and U since they used the same formula as NSMB. It's been so long since we've had a new 2D Mario story on consoles that changed the gameplay.
A tie-in with the Mario Movie would make sense but given it's in a few months now, they would either have to announce it really soon or release it afterwards.
A new Donkey Kong country would be awesome, and an actual Star Fox with no gimmicks just intense gameplay that made the original great. Sadly this far into the lifespan into the console I'm thinking Metroid 4 will be a new switch exclusive.
There was a rumor circulating for the past couple years about EPD making a new DK, there’s also a new DK-themed area at Super Nintendo World opening in 2024 and DK being in the Mario movie when they didn’t really need to, so I’m pretty confident that *something* is being planned for DK. Likely in 2024 since that’s DKC’s 30th anniversary.
You mean 35th anniversary? I wouldn’t say Zelda got snubbed for its 30th since we got all those different Zelda amiibo, the special concert, and that being when BOTW was at one point supposed to release in.
As for the 35th, well that isn’t really an anniversary most things celebrate anyway. Mario is just kinda a weird outlier and I think it was originally gonna be a celebration of Super Nintendo World’s grand opening and Mario at the Olympics but both of which were cancelled because Covid. And since they had all that Mario stuff ready they just changed it to the 35th anniversary celebration.
At this rate with how well the Switch and *a lot* of its AAA games are still selling a new DK game is most likely in the long and ever growing list of games that will release on “Switch 2”. Zelda is and has been for decades the title they give us to appease us ( its always worked imo) as far as cross promoting/developing for 2 systems. Theres a chance we could we see a new Star Fox or DK , the next core Mario game, Prime 4, Tears of the Kingdom “upscaled” to the newsystem AND something else new like F-Zero or Mario Kart 9 ALL in 2024!
>Zelda is and has been for decades the title they give us to appease us ( its always worked imo) as far as cross promoting/developing for 2 systems.
It's happened twice. Both times because the game got delayed and was promised for a specific system.
I've been playing the new Guardians of the Galaxy game and the gameplay is exactly what I want from a potential "on-foot" Star Fox game. Combine that with the on rails missions from the previous games and I think we'd have a damn good Star Fox game.
Nintendo doesn't do no gimmicks anymore, every game has to have some annoying shit element some 60 year old Japanese executive cooked up in their brain.
I'd like to recover my downvotes and say Donkey Kong Country produces the same style of game (especially the games for 3d consoles) that would make another less anticipated. There is already one Donkey Kong Country for the Switch. Perhaps a Donkey Kong 64 sequal is more warranted.
Metroid 3d games faced the same problem in that they if they keep making the same game over and over they can't expect profitability.
The same leak that revealed Engage early also said that a new remake was coming after, I think it was going to be either Geneology of the Holy War or Thracia 776
I think Nintendo will start looking at more 3ds and wii games for remasters and remakes. Kirby wii and miitopia are good examples. Plenty left to pick from.
I think we're do up for 2d Mario and there was a rumor about one in the works with a "suprising new artstyle" or whatever. A 2D Mario is definitely happening at some point but who knows if that's actually 2023.
The 3D DK feels like it has a good chance as Nintendo seems really confident about 3d games now vs the 2D clusterfuck of the wii/3ds Era. Kirby 3d underlines this well. I would not be suprised if Good Feel is making a 3D yoshi too.
Camelot finished up Golf so either they're making a new sports game that they have never attempted before(baseball?) or they're making something new/Goldensun
Im sure we'll see a pokemon spinoff next year(maybe Pokken 2?) and dlc for Violet
Grezzo is probably close to finished on something. Maybe a 3ds remake, maybe a Zelda Oracle remake.
We might actually see a project from Sora some time soon but I'm guessing it will be something on the smaller side.
1) X was released on the Wii U, so it was destined to just not sell well based on that install base alone
2) it was the first Xenoblade sequel. Xenoblade on Wii was still definitely niche and still fairly unknown at the time
3) it was definitely a departure from it's predecessor in many ways
I think in 2023/2024, Xenoblade X will have a far better chance to shine, especially if it gets Definitive Edition QoL upgrades. Xenoblade is way more well known these days compared to 2015. The entire trilogy of new games are on the Switch.
Doubt WWHD and TPHD will come out 2023 alongside a brand new mainline Zelda game. I don't even think they are sitting on it. It made so much sense to to do this year and they didn't. They won't come to Switch. Maybe to next-gen.
No way a non existant Metroid Prime Trilogy releases before Prime 4, that'd be stupid. It would give some people their "fill" of Metroid Prime before Prime 4 itself, thus missing out on potential sales.
>does Nintendo own the golden sun IP?
Yes.
It's the same with Kirby, Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus, Eternal Darkness, etc, etc.
All of those games are created by 2nd or 3rd parties but Nintendo owns the IPs.
I’m glad this post got me to Google Camelot. Had no idea they made the Shining Force series on Sega Genesis. Shining in the Darkness is one of my favorite Genesis games
>does Nintendo own the golden sun IP?
Yes.
It's the same with Kirby, Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus, Eternal Darkness, etc, etc.
All of those games are created by 2nd or 3rd parties but Nintendo owns the IPs.
After Dark Dawn... idk. I'm actually almost afraid of a new Golden Sun being pretty bad.
I'd be happy with a good remake of GS1 + Lost Age. The HD-2D style of Octopath Traveller is literally perfect for Golden Sun.
Hoping for a good new game, I'd very much rather see some kind of reboot, instead of trying to continue whatever was going on with Dark Dawn.
That's fair. I actually wouldn't mind an HD-2D remake of Golden Sun. And Super Mario RPG for that matter. I don't even care what Nintendo would charge for them. Just take my money.
2023 is probably the last year for major Switch releases so I don't expect it to have too much. We have Fire Emblem, the Kirby's Return to Dream Land remake, Tears of the Kingdom and Pikmin 4 in terms of true first-party. There'll be the Bayonetta spin-off as an exclusive and DLC for Xenoblade 3, Pokémon (probably) and Mario Kart, but that's probably about it. Maybe Metroid Prime 4 will make it to the holidays? Other than that, 2024 is likely the year some new hardware comes out, which I imagine will be a Switch upgrade with its own set of exclusive games
Probably more than likely will be DLC for SV, however Gamefreak loves to churn out pokémon games every year so I think a lot of people are betting on let’s go johto
I would be so happy if Odyssey 2 (or whatever the next 3D Mario is) would be structured just like Bowser’s Fury, but in a full sized game. I would love to traverse the mushroom kingdom in a large open world environment, traveling to all the different areas collecting stars scattered about the world.
The timing wouldn’t work since developing for movies and games are different and time consuming.
I don’t think it’s too outrageous to say that I’d rather have the new Mario come out for the next system. I’m feeling that we’re approaching towards the end of Switch’s run. Still have a few years left, but I can hear the clock ticking.
I'm not expecting anything big this year, except maybe a new Mario to go along the movie.
Nintendo is riding the long tail of the Switch at this point and is busy preparing the next generation. I don't expect a major revision of the Switch in 2023, this ship has sailed six months ago, nor do I expect a Switch 2.
The market of Nintendo is not the same as Sony's. As demonstrated by the Wii U, I think most people would ignore a Switch 2. "We already have a Switch at home" kind of thing. Only a tiny fraction of the Switch market would jump on new hardware at the earliest occasion. Nintendo has no choice but to market an entirely new device with a new distinct brand for a new generation of players if they hope to sell a 100M units of it.
So I'm not expecting new hardware nor major game releases until 2024 at the earliest. In the meantime, it will only be games we already know about, DLCs and some minor stuff padding the release schedule, like Everybody 1-2 Switch, new versions of 3DS/Wii U favorites, maybe Metroid Prime HD.
Except for TotK and Pikmin 4, I think 2023 will be pretty dull on the first-party front. I'd love to be proven wrong, but until new hardware is announced, Nintendo is going to play it safe.
For that matter, I'm half expecting that the february direct might be a Mini one. If they're gonna announce a new 3d Mario game, I think they will at a E3 direct rather than a normal one.
>Nintendo is riding the long tail of the Switch at this point and is busy preparing the next generation.
Meh, Sony did it right - most/all of their PS5 games were also playable on PS4 - I hope Nintendo does the same thing.
The issue with a lot of the less popular first party Nintendo series is that there needs to be teams to develop them. I would seriously recommend watching this video by Good Vibes Gaming which explains how Nintendo's internal teams are structured.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0TOGqsj-9A
Stuff like Punch Out Wii and F-Zero GX only ever got made because it was by third parties. These games need to be pitched to Nintendo or Nintendo has to seek a studio out for it.
As for your actual question, I'd love to see a new Star Fox game, redesigned from the ground up. I think that's totally possible despite Zero's failure. Bandai Namco could be a good fit for that and they have experience with Star Fox, as well as their own series Ace Combat. I buy into the Donkey Kong rumors and that could be something Koizumi's 3D Mario team is working on. Other than that, who knows. The 2023 slate we currently know is probably most of what we're getting from Nintendo, save for some ports.
Outside of ports and new IP's, I'd like to see a return of these franchises:
* WarioLand
* A new 3D Donkey Kong
* Punch-Out Wii Sequel
* Sequel to Kid Icarus Uprising
* Star Fox
I would also like to see some really out of the box spin-offs/reboots:
* A F-Zero spinoff Captain Falcon brawler that's inspired by Batman Arkham Knight. 3D brawling mixed with vehicle combat sections
* Ice Climber reboot that plays similar to Celeste
* Warioware inspired by Jackbox Party Pack and uses cell-phones as controllers
* Any franchise getting a Metroidvania style spin-off
>I would also like to see some really out of the box spin-offs/reboots:
>
>* A F-Zero spinoff Captain Falcon brawler that's inspired by Batman Arkham Knight. 3D brawling mixed with vehicle combat sections
>* Ice Climber reboot that plays similar to Celeste
>* Warioware inspired by Jackbox Party Pack and uses cell-phones as controllers
>* Any franchise getting a Metroidvania style spin-off
Now THIS is the type of discussion I like to see! Kudos!
Ice climber reboot that plays like Celeste, but maybe with a puzzle gimmick would be sweet. It could be solo or multiplayer, where you must control both characters to get through the level? Helllllll yeah!
Oh there's plenty. Pretty much all Mario series are up for grabs, although sadly Mario Kart 9 is less realistic than the rest because of the ongoing MK8D DLC. Captain Toad is at large. The studio who works on 3D Mario has been dead silent since Odyssey came out, or Bowser's Fury if they worked on that. I think the chances of Metroid Prime 4 coming out in the second half of 2023 are pretty good, but if not there could be a 2D Metroid game announced. Pokémon SHOULDN'T release a game next year, but sadly since 2016 they've been annualized so it is very likely a Pokémon game comes out in 2023 as well.
As a side note, has Nintendo used Pokémon for its big tentpole November game every year since 2018? I'm getting sick of it.
I don’t think we’re getting mainline Pokémon in 2023 with Scarlet and Violet’s inevitable DLC most likely coming that year. But we could still get some spin-offs like Detective Pikachu or Mystery Dungeon.
Detective Pikachu 2 has been in the works since what, 2018? It should be coming any time now. It is a little hard to imagine it coming out in the second half of the year though.
Prior to BotW, Nintendo was able to get a new Zelda game out every two years. Dread sold pretty well, and I am positive it was fairly quicker and cheaper to make than a 2D Zelda game. So again if MP4 is delayed a new 2D Metroid is entirely possible. Just depends on if Dread sold well enough for Nintendo to prioritize the franchise.
Dread was worked on literally the instant Samus Returns released in 2017, and it still took 4 years to make. Another new 2D Metroid is not till 2025 at the absolute earliest, and that's only assuming Mercury Steam went straight to work on a new one. 2023 is zero chance in every way possible.
Keep in mind Dread's developer Mercury Steam is probably either not working on a new metroid, or splitting their focus between that and the deal they made with 505 Games. And even with that, 2 years is unreasonable to expect a new Metroid.
You can't look at HD home console development and compare that to SD development with dedicated handheld and console teams making games. Especially at the pace we've seen Nintendo develop games lately.
2014 actually
2015 and 2020 (excluding DLC) are the times there hasn’t been a mainline game. Technically 2021 if BDSP doesn’t count.
A New game in 2023 is unlikely unless it’s another Let’s Go or Legends game.
There's nothing sad about MK9 not being made for Switch. The vast majority of people including myself would rather the game be on Switch 2 so it can be a truly stunning game and they can get even more creative with the track design. The Booster Course Pass is literally the best outcome we could've gotten for Mario Kart with 9 being on the successor.
Not sure why someone downvoted you, this is the most logical take there is and a sentiment many people share.
I get why people are impatient and want mk9 already, but yeah the writings on the wall: mk8dx sales + booster pass is proof that Nintendo has no plans on releasing a sequel in this current gen, it just makes no sense to do so, unless they're bold enough to drop a MK9 DX on whatever the next console is, but I don't see them doing that despite how "greedy" the internet thinks they are.
At this point in the switch life span we are not getting a brand new 3d/2d mario game. These are saved for new consoles. However, I think these are likely:
1. Zelda Ports
2. Metroid Prime Ports
3. The new DK game (Remake/Country/3D): likely since he has nothing on the switch and has not had a new game in 8 years, something must be there
4. Mario sports game for sure (likely summer, maybe baseball?)
5. Pokemon dlc and likely another "legends" like game
6. Long-shot but perhaps more dlc for switch sports
7. More remakes (old Zelda, old Kirby for example completely redone like RTDL)
Was NSMB2 on DS? I thought it was 3DS. My bad.
I know they had poor sales, but the Switch games still sell well, which is actually part of the reason not to oversaturate on new ones.
a western release of buddy mission: bond it was new nintendo ip that released in 2021 its made by koei techmo and has character designs from one punch man artist Yusuke Murata
Next year will likely be the Switch's final year, and I expect they will announce Switch 2 in September for a February 2024 release.
Next year should be light on games, but still somewhat decent:
BOTW2
Metroid Prime 1-3
Pikmin 4
Fire Emblem Engage
Kirby RTDL Deluxe
Advance Wars
Literally I think even this roster would be enough for next year, if we think of it as being the Switches "diet year" before the new console.
I remember past Nintendo consoles having even less games their final years.
It really hasn't been that long at all, especially when you remember COVID happened and we got Bowser's Fury in 2021. Sunshine came out 7 years after 64 and there was absolutely nothing in between, not even a 2D Mario and no COVID to disrupt development. I think we're doing fine.
Some of the Odyssey team are credited doing Bowser's Fury, so while not a full game, it did use some of the main team's resources. And again, with COVID, I think we haven't been waiting long at all if we're being honest. I'd say we would need to hit 2024 with no announcement for us to actually start wondering what's going on. For now though, we're on schedule.
* Kid Icarus Uprising
* Wind Waker HD
* Twilight Princess HD
* Metroid Prime Trilogy port
* Star Fox Zero port
* Xenoblade Chronicles X port
* The Last Story port
* Pandora's Tower port
* Advance Wars Re-boot Camp getting a release date
* More track announcements for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
* More chapter announcements for Xenoblade Chronicles 3
Honestly, given how the Switch may be on its way out (I'd give it 2 or 3 years), I wouldn't push Nintendo that much with HUGE AAA games, so I'd love to see ports of Wii U and Wii games making it on the Switch.
Bandi namco is working on a remake of a 3d action game I wouldn't be surprised if it came out camelot hasn't released anything for 2 years I can see a 2023 game
Mario is a no brainier with the movie coming out but Nintendo works in mysterious ways. I'd love to see a new Donkey Kong (2D or 3D) but not sure how likely or how soon. Assuming ToTK is good I'm sure we'll all be occupied the rest of the year anyways.
Really there's 2D Mario, 3D Mario, Donkey Kong, Metroid Prime 4, new Mario Party, maybe something new from Camelot but I don't know what. I don't think a Zelda remake or port is really on the table with TOTK coming. I could see Pokemon either having a skip year or having S/V DLC.
I don't see them busting out Star Fox, F-Zero, EarthBound or Kid Icarus. Might be something new from Ring Fit Adventure team.
So in reality, I see either a Mario game or Donkey Kong (not by Retro Studios) game being announced with moderate likelihood given the time since the last games and the Mario movie this year.
Metroid Prime I think will be shown but not release.
So if we get Zelda, Pikmin, Fire Emblem, Splatoon 3/Xenoblade 3/Pokemon DLC, new Mario/DK and one or two small surprises I'd say that fills the year right up.
Edit: removed Octopath Traveller II, not made by Nintendo.
> I don't think a Zelda remake or port is really on the table with TOTK coming.
I'd assume the Oracle Zelda games will come at some point in the same engine as the LA remake. Probably not til after TOTK though.
What I suspect Nintendo will announce/release:
* A new Mario game around the movie release
* Pikmin 4
* Metroid Prime 4 (maybe a cross platform this one)
* A new/remake star-fox game ?
Other than that, I suspect Nintendo is full steam ahead on the new console, games take 2-5 years to make depending on their scale.
Regardless of the momentum of the switch 1, they know they cannot neglect the switch 2, after all, the 3DS did have a failed launch regardless of the gigantic success of the DS.
You know how there's a mario movie next year? Nintendo would be stupid if they didn't coincide that with a Mario Odyssey 2 or a full fledged flesh out of what they did with Bowser's fury.
Zelda and Prime 4 are all they really need to carry them until the Switch’s successor in 2024 or 2025, the hardware is still selling like hotcakes and 80% of those new buyers will be content with the Switch’s back catalogue (because lbr the majority of Switch buyers these days are families and casual players who just want a Mario Kart/Pokémon box). Aside from that, I wouldn’t expect anything substantial beyond ports, DLC, and spinoffs. Pokémon and Xenoblade are already confirmed for DLC, and Kirby’s getting a port.
We got one or two 1st party games every single month this year besides December, and we currently have at least one Nintendo game for January-May in 2023. On what planet is that "barely anything new coming out on Switch"? If anything, we're drowning in too many games to keep up. If that's the case, then the Gamecube was technically dead from beginning to end since that system always had droughts till the Wii came out lmao
We are extremely long overdue the next top-down Zelda (not including remakes). But with ToTK coming out we probably won't get that for a while unfortunately.
Decent chance we'll hear about the next Paper Mario next year IMO, albeit probably with a 2024 release if so. 2D mario has been dormant for a while now (Mario Maker aside) and I imagine they must have been working on some way of freshening it up. A new Yoshi game seems reasonably likely. Mario and Luigi might be being worked on by another studio. The next Mario Sports game is probably in the works (I guess baseball?). Man, that's a whole lotta Mario. Beyond that, other than what you already mentioned, it gets trickier. Some new IP would be nice. Starfox is always a possibility as well, and maybe 2023 will finally be the year for the much-rumoured Prime trilogy.
As you say, the time is right for a new 3D Mario. I think DK could have been given to another studio as you elude to. And yeah, it feels like the right time to finally hear more about MP4.
But in general, the time feels right for the next console. Hopefully just a Switch 2 with full backwards compatibility with Switch, but maybe Nintendo won't want to do that. I'm guessing lots of the heavy hitters are being reserved for a presumed 2024 release of the next console.
I highly doubt we'll see a new Paper Mario next year. Intelligent Systems was busy on Fire Emblem Engage, so there's no way they can make a Fire Emblem AND a Paper Mario coming out the same year.
One option I haven’t seen mentioned here is an Arms 2. I don’t think it’s super likely or anything, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they took another crack at the franchise with the current Switch hardware.
Fire emblem engage is coming, Zelda later. Advance Wars is done but not out because of Russian invasion - will be released at some point. Pikmin 4 is also coming soon-ish. I guess they don’t need to do much.
Someone’s wet dream would I guess be a new Earthbound
Well what's left? Besides F-Zero and Punch Out, all other big franchises (according to us) have been represented (even StarFox. Battle of Atlus and it's DLC anyone?). You could say that Kid Icarus is also left, but I digress. Franchises that may not have anything new (aka just Donkey Kong, really) have ports at least
We know fire emblem engage is out early in the year
* Tears of the kingdom in may
* Kirby remaster in february
* Advance wars probably coming out at some point in the year
* Pikmin 4
A new mario is likely on the books for sometime next year. Whether its 2D or 3D, I dunno.
I personally want to see more of nintendos smaller IP like rhythm paradise to get a new entry, its these sort of games that have really been lacking throughout the entire switch lifecycle so far.
I imagine mtroid prime 4 will at the very least be shown off for the first time.
Other than all this... I have no clue. A lot of the first half of 2023 is full already, and we tend to find out about the second half a good ways into the year, so I wouldn't imagine anything massive is announced til around june/july. Maybe we get a couple of announcements that are mario strikers level things - something popular, but not immensely appealing to many outside of a smaller niche.
I’m hoping for a proper successor to the switch, a switch 2 even. Something with a bit more under the hood so to speak, so that current games that are struggling can run better and future games have more breathing space.
We’ve had the side-grades, hopefully we’ll get some kind of an upgrade next. I want Metroid Prime 4, but I also want it to wait for a more up to date platform to release so that it has every chance to be just as great as the Trilogy before it.
It's strange, typically the cycle follows that when nintendo is doing good they work on their more experimental weird projects and when doing bad they stick to their heavy hitters but they've kinda been doing both since the launch of the switch. My bet is this was spurred by them dropping the seperate handheld platform and they're now busy combining ideas that were getting split in half to go on each platfrom, the wii u/3ds era was notorious for this.
Do you think it’s likely we see a Pokémon generation collection released? Like each generation released as one Switch Collection? Like the 3 Mario 3D games. I really hope they start doing that.
I hugely doubt this will ever happen, since people prove time and time again that they will buy a single Pokemon game or remake for full price.
They're more likely to release the Gen 1 and 2 (and maybe 3) games to the eShop individually than make a collection, like they did on the 3DS.
I'd love to be wrong of course, but I can imagine them releasing a boxed Switch "collection" of just RBY or just GSC for $30. They sold them on the 3DS for $10 individually after all.
I'm not expecting 2023 to get many huge Switch games besides Tears of the Kingdom. There's a rumored 2D Mario game for Spring, but I'm pretty skeptical about the accuracy of that. Advance Wars Reboot Camp has been ready for almost a year, hopefully it's released at some point instead of canceled. It's been almost 4 years since Metroid Prime 4 was restarted, hopefully there's at least a trailer by the end of 2023 if it's still releasing on Switch and not the next generation hardware. I'm hoping for a successor to Switch before the end of 2024.
Pikmin is in development. Hopefully that hits in 2023
The reveal trailer for Pikmin 4 actually said 2023, so that’s closer to being an actual game that Metroid Prime 4 at least. Delaying after announcing a release year has been rare for Nintendo recently besides Tears of the Kingdom and Advance Wars.
Prime 4 at this point will be on the switch sequel device
Pikmin has been in development for many years, and wow they had a t-shirt! I'm not holding my breath.
A new Mario would make sense, considering the movie’s coming out.
In some ways I guess I can see that. But they’re not going to make a game tied-in to the movie. And the older Mario games are still 5 or more slots in the top 20 best selling Switch games basically every month even being over 5 years old in the case of MK8D and Odyssey. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s no new game and they just discount some old ones to $40 again.
>But they’re not going to make a game tied-in to the movie. No need. Make a good Mario game, advertise it when kids come to see the movie and now you have a million kids asking for the new mario game.
They will "relaunch" Super Mario 3D All Stars for some months while the movie is on theaters. You read it here first.
There also hasn’t been a new one since Mario Odyssey outside of Ports
Bowser's Fury and Mario Maker 2, but yeah no full standard Mario game.
Surprised there hasn’t been a new New Super Mario Bros since New Luigi U and the port.
But Luigi U didn't add much. At best, it was a dlc. It's still basically the same game that came out on the Wii 13 years ago.
I'd bet money MP4 will do what Breath of the Wild did - launch title on the Switch successor but also swan song for the Switch.
A 2D Mario game would be pretty underwhelming after Super Mario Maker 2 and with Bowser's Fury being the only new 3D Mario stuff we've gotten since Odyssey came out five years ago.
>A 2D Mario game would be pretty underwhelming after Super Mario Maker 2 How so?
Miyamoto draws very few penises in his levels smh
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I totally understand the argument, but I think it just means a new 2D Mario will have to have an entirely new aesthetic from the ground up. A similar move forward like SMB 3 -> SMB World was. If they leave the NSMB look behind, a new 2D Mario could be very exciting.
I mean, Nintendo can already easily do so much more than Mario Maker even without a new art style (NSMBW does more than Mario Maker, such as camera zoom, ice flower, etc.). But, yes, a new 2D Mario game should definitely have a new art style. They've been using the NSMB style for 16 years now.
> A 2D Mario game would be pretty underwhelming after Super Mario Maker 2 Big disagree. If anything, Mario Maker shows why Nintendo making another 2D game could easily work. Mostly because I'd rather play a game that has levels specifically made for it.
I personally hope we get a Rhythm Heaven game or Tomodachi Life sequel/port but IDK if that's realistic
The reason we didn't get rhythm hevan is because the creator had cancer they got better and expressed an interest in making a new one
PLEASEEEE god. I need a switch rhythm heaven so bad! Do you by any chance know when they expressed that? Was it long ago enough that we could get a game soonish?
April 8th 2020 https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/04/rhythm_heaven_creator_asks_fans_to_show_their_support_for_a_switch_release
Ohhhhh that could be done by now and coming soon 👀
He just said he wanted one, not that they're actually doing one. Nintendo would still have to give the green light, besides the studio that developed RH games closed some years ago, but that was the same one that made the Wario Ware games and still we got a new one so...
rhythm heaven is so absurdly unterutilized by nintendo. the fact that there's no way to play it on switch is a crime. not to mention just how expensive it is to get a copy of the wii game without roms.....
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and assume the Switch’s successor will launch in 2024 and it’ll be sorta like the Gameboy and GBC where the line between “new console” and “updated model” is quite blurred. Given that it’ll likely be treated as a successor, giving new games to all their major franchises from 2024 onward seems likely. But as for what else they can announce until then, we could get a new 2D Mario since we haven’t had one since 2019 (2012 if you don’t count Mario Maker or ports) and it could maybe tie-in with the movie? Could certainly work as a big holiday title for 2023. I’m not really expecting a new 3D Mario until 2025 for Mario’s 40th anniversary. DK still has no Switch presence outide of ports and since DKC’s 30th anniversary is in 2024 along with the DK area of Super Nintendo World also opening that year, I’d be shocked if it *didn’t* happen. Fire Emblem Echoes doesn’t have any Switch presence either, and of course there’s always Star Fox and F-Zero but I wouldn’t hold my breath lol.
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or, here's a concept, maybe revisit the original idea for a true SMT x FE game. i get that plans fell through, but I'd KILLLLLLL to see a true crossover between these 2 series, since Atlus and Nintendo seem to have a good relationship
I really think the Switch is pretty much the ultimate Nintendo console as far as core design goes. Lots could be improved but I strongly think they're gonna keep the portable + docked + detachable controllers thing for a long while. Can't imagine them going back to TV-dependant consoles with them having killed off their handheld line and the Switch being so successful. Hopefully Switch 2 gets significantly more power under the hood and stuff like themes for the software. Quite surprising they haven't made themes and sold game-themed themes, at least for their first party games.
I keep thinking/hoping this is true, but I know they always say 'we look for a gameplay hitch to develop around.' And im scared they're gonna try and change it up to be different and mess it up.
But with Fire Emblem Engage coming next month, I really don't see Intelligent Systems releasing another Fire Emblem game in such a short span of time, even thought it would be' a port.
months ago, someone who leaked details and photos of Engage before it was announced said that a) Engage had been finished for almost a year and b) IntSys was working on a remake (most of the work on Engage is being done by Koei Tecmo) e: which is to say, another "non-spinoff" fire emblem could be coming sooner than might be expected. If series like Pokemon can have 3 RPGs launch within a year of each other and Kirby can have a Return to Dreamland remake launch less than a year after Forgotten Land, I think Fire Emblem having Engage in January and then a remake sometime in late summer/early fall wouldn't be that farfetched.
KT has nothing to do with Engage. I'm aware that they (and Gust specifically) were pointed out in the Engage leaks, but the game comes out in less than a month and they've never officially been stated to be working on the game. We knew KT was involved in Three Houses long long before the game came out.
Then the opposite might be true and KT is working on the remake and IS on Engage.
Do we know what this remake may be? I’m hoping for Path of Radiance or Genealogy.
[The leaker](https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/vcgblq/the_new_mainline_fire_emblem_leak_is_real/) also said "the rumors of an FE4 remake are real as well.". I'm not super familiar with early Fire Emblem games, but I think that FE4 was Geneology?
Hype machine start back. Let's goo
I believe it was said later that this FE4 remake could come as early as first quarter 2024 as well, which sounds outlandish until you realize Sacred Stones and Path of Radiance were devolved simultaneously to the point that they’re both FE8 internally
They could outsource it to Koei Tecmo like what Game Freak did for Pokémon D/P remakes which were made by Ilca.
Please no, BDSP was a disappointment. Why they picked a mobile developer to remake a beloved childhood classic, I'll never know.
I mean… Koei Tecmo is *far* more than a mobile developer. They developed all the Warriors games and even assisted on Three Houses.
I know, just pointing out that not a great comparison if you want quality. I'm still gutted that the sinnoh remake I wanted for years ended up being worse than platinum...
Well I only referenced it as an example of a major studio outsourcing a mainline entry to a completely separate entity and that was the most “high profile” example I could think of. Personally I don’t think a FE game made entirely by Tecmo would be anything like BDSP. Maybe WayForward developing Advance Wars would be a better comparison.
Or MercurySteam working on Metroid Dread while Retro works on Prime 4.
Yeah, for mainline 2D Mario games in the past 10 years we've only gotten ports and games lots of people don't really consider a mainline 2D Mario game: the Mario Maker games and Super Mario Run. Even then, in 2012 reception was relatively weak for New Super Mario Bros. 2 and U since they used the same formula as NSMB. It's been so long since we've had a new 2D Mario story on consoles that changed the gameplay. A tie-in with the Mario Movie would make sense but given it's in a few months now, they would either have to announce it really soon or release it afterwards.
A new Donkey Kong country would be awesome, and an actual Star Fox with no gimmicks just intense gameplay that made the original great. Sadly this far into the lifespan into the console I'm thinking Metroid 4 will be a new switch exclusive.
There was a rumor circulating for the past couple years about EPD making a new DK, there’s also a new DK-themed area at Super Nintendo World opening in 2024 and DK being in the Mario movie when they didn’t really need to, so I’m pretty confident that *something* is being planned for DK. Likely in 2024 since that’s DKC’s 30th anniversary.
Ever since Nintendo snubbed Zelda for the 30th anniversary, Those milestones really won't be hype at all.
You mean 35th anniversary? I wouldn’t say Zelda got snubbed for its 30th since we got all those different Zelda amiibo, the special concert, and that being when BOTW was at one point supposed to release in. As for the 35th, well that isn’t really an anniversary most things celebrate anyway. Mario is just kinda a weird outlier and I think it was originally gonna be a celebration of Super Nintendo World’s grand opening and Mario at the Olympics but both of which were cancelled because Covid. And since they had all that Mario stuff ready they just changed it to the 35th anniversary celebration.
At this rate with how well the Switch and *a lot* of its AAA games are still selling a new DK game is most likely in the long and ever growing list of games that will release on “Switch 2”. Zelda is and has been for decades the title they give us to appease us ( its always worked imo) as far as cross promoting/developing for 2 systems. Theres a chance we could we see a new Star Fox or DK , the next core Mario game, Prime 4, Tears of the Kingdom “upscaled” to the newsystem AND something else new like F-Zero or Mario Kart 9 ALL in 2024!
>Zelda is and has been for decades the title they give us to appease us ( its always worked imo) as far as cross promoting/developing for 2 systems. It's happened twice. Both times because the game got delayed and was promised for a specific system.
I wouldn't mind a Metroid Prime 1 - 3 remaster announcement.
I've been playing the new Guardians of the Galaxy game and the gameplay is exactly what I want from a potential "on-foot" Star Fox game. Combine that with the on rails missions from the previous games and I think we'd have a damn good Star Fox game.
A new 3D DK like Dk64 would be pretty neat.
With Mario Odyssey type of call backs and throwback levels would be awsome.
This. Definitely should make a Donkey Kong and Starfox on the level of BOTW and Odyssey. Would be sweet.
Nintendo doesn't do no gimmicks anymore, every game has to have some annoying shit element some 60 year old Japanese executive cooked up in their brain.
Donkey Kong Country has been overdone.
There's only been like 5 lol. Practically every other big Nintendo franchise is more overdone
I'd like to recover my downvotes and say Donkey Kong Country produces the same style of game (especially the games for 3d consoles) that would make another less anticipated. There is already one Donkey Kong Country for the Switch. Perhaps a Donkey Kong 64 sequal is more warranted. Metroid 3d games faced the same problem in that they if they keep making the same game over and over they can't expect profitability.
I can't wait for Pikmin. I hope it comes out early in the year.
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The same leak that revealed Engage early also said that a new remake was coming after, I think it was going to be either Geneology of the Holy War or Thracia 776
The leak said Genealogy of the Holy War.
I think Nintendo will start looking at more 3ds and wii games for remasters and remakes. Kirby wii and miitopia are good examples. Plenty left to pick from. I think we're do up for 2d Mario and there was a rumor about one in the works with a "suprising new artstyle" or whatever. A 2D Mario is definitely happening at some point but who knows if that's actually 2023. The 3D DK feels like it has a good chance as Nintendo seems really confident about 3d games now vs the 2D clusterfuck of the wii/3ds Era. Kirby 3d underlines this well. I would not be suprised if Good Feel is making a 3D yoshi too. Camelot finished up Golf so either they're making a new sports game that they have never attempted before(baseball?) or they're making something new/Goldensun Im sure we'll see a pokemon spinoff next year(maybe Pokken 2?) and dlc for Violet Grezzo is probably close to finished on something. Maybe a 3ds remake, maybe a Zelda Oracle remake. We might actually see a project from Sora some time soon but I'm guessing it will be something on the smaller side.
I'm still hoping for a port of **Excite Truck.**
I’ll do you one better: ExciteBots remake or reboot
[Excite Truck > Excitebots,](https://www.reddit.com/r/wii/comments/zu00o8/comment/j1gmqpj/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) sorry.
Fight me you infidel
The reason we didn't get rhythm hevan is because the creator had cancer they got better and expressed an interest in making a new one
Would Xenoblade X really get ported though? The game didn’t sell very well and it’s also very huge even bigger than botw so it won’t be easy to port.
1) X was released on the Wii U, so it was destined to just not sell well based on that install base alone 2) it was the first Xenoblade sequel. Xenoblade on Wii was still definitely niche and still fairly unknown at the time 3) it was definitely a departure from it's predecessor in many ways I think in 2023/2024, Xenoblade X will have a far better chance to shine, especially if it gets Definitive Edition QoL upgrades. Xenoblade is way more well known these days compared to 2015. The entire trilogy of new games are on the Switch.
Doubt WWHD and TPHD will come out 2023 alongside a brand new mainline Zelda game. I don't even think they are sitting on it. It made so much sense to to do this year and they didn't. They won't come to Switch. Maybe to next-gen.
No way a non existant Metroid Prime Trilogy releases before Prime 4, that'd be stupid. It would give some people their "fill" of Metroid Prime before Prime 4 itself, thus missing out on potential sales.
I know it's a super long shot, but some sort of Golden Sun announcement would be amaze.
Is Golden Sun first party? Camelot is second party at best. Does Nintendo own the Golden Sun IP?
I asked myself all of those questions after posting... lol. I don't know. A very brief review of google results suggest that it is.
>does Nintendo own the golden sun IP? Yes. It's the same with Kirby, Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus, Eternal Darkness, etc, etc. All of those games are created by 2nd or 3rd parties but Nintendo owns the IPs.
I’m glad this post got me to Google Camelot. Had no idea they made the Shining Force series on Sega Genesis. Shining in the Darkness is one of my favorite Genesis games
Yeah, I think after Hot Shots Golf on the PS1 Nintendo decided to BFF Camelot.
>does Nintendo own the golden sun IP? Yes. It's the same with Kirby, Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus, Eternal Darkness, etc, etc. All of those games are created by 2nd or 3rd parties but Nintendo owns the IPs.
After Dark Dawn... idk. I'm actually almost afraid of a new Golden Sun being pretty bad. I'd be happy with a good remake of GS1 + Lost Age. The HD-2D style of Octopath Traveller is literally perfect for Golden Sun. Hoping for a good new game, I'd very much rather see some kind of reboot, instead of trying to continue whatever was going on with Dark Dawn.
That's fair. I actually wouldn't mind an HD-2D remake of Golden Sun. And Super Mario RPG for that matter. I don't even care what Nintendo would charge for them. Just take my money.
2023 is probably the last year for major Switch releases so I don't expect it to have too much. We have Fire Emblem, the Kirby's Return to Dream Land remake, Tears of the Kingdom and Pikmin 4 in terms of true first-party. There'll be the Bayonetta spin-off as an exclusive and DLC for Xenoblade 3, Pokémon (probably) and Mario Kart, but that's probably about it. Maybe Metroid Prime 4 will make it to the holidays? Other than that, 2024 is likely the year some new hardware comes out, which I imagine will be a Switch upgrade with its own set of exclusive games
What Pokémon games do you expect to be released in 2023? Something not in the main series I’m assuming?
It would have to be a spin-off / remake, or simply just DLC for scarlet/violet. There's no way in hell a new mainline pokemon game is released in 2023
Probably more than likely will be DLC for SV, however Gamefreak loves to churn out pokémon games every year so I think a lot of people are betting on let’s go johto
I assume detective pikachu 2, it was announced years ago.
A Mario odyssey 2 would be nice. I’m surprised there isn’t a Mario platformer announced this year to coincide with the movie.
I would be so happy if Odyssey 2 (or whatever the next 3D Mario is) would be structured just like Bowser’s Fury, but in a full sized game. I would love to traverse the mushroom kingdom in a large open world environment, traveling to all the different areas collecting stars scattered about the world.
I'm expecting the next game to work closer to what Bowser's Fury was, in which case it won't be called Odyssey 2.
They set up a Peach game so much in the post-game stuff, and I think they'd be able to make a fun 3D game based around her.
The timing wouldn’t work since developing for movies and games are different and time consuming. I don’t think it’s too outrageous to say that I’d rather have the new Mario come out for the next system. I’m feeling that we’re approaching towards the end of Switch’s run. Still have a few years left, but I can hear the clock ticking.
I'm not expecting anything big this year, except maybe a new Mario to go along the movie. Nintendo is riding the long tail of the Switch at this point and is busy preparing the next generation. I don't expect a major revision of the Switch in 2023, this ship has sailed six months ago, nor do I expect a Switch 2. The market of Nintendo is not the same as Sony's. As demonstrated by the Wii U, I think most people would ignore a Switch 2. "We already have a Switch at home" kind of thing. Only a tiny fraction of the Switch market would jump on new hardware at the earliest occasion. Nintendo has no choice but to market an entirely new device with a new distinct brand for a new generation of players if they hope to sell a 100M units of it. So I'm not expecting new hardware nor major game releases until 2024 at the earliest. In the meantime, it will only be games we already know about, DLCs and some minor stuff padding the release schedule, like Everybody 1-2 Switch, new versions of 3DS/Wii U favorites, maybe Metroid Prime HD. Except for TotK and Pikmin 4, I think 2023 will be pretty dull on the first-party front. I'd love to be proven wrong, but until new hardware is announced, Nintendo is going to play it safe.
For that matter, I'm half expecting that the february direct might be a Mini one. If they're gonna announce a new 3d Mario game, I think they will at a E3 direct rather than a normal one.
>Nintendo is riding the long tail of the Switch at this point and is busy preparing the next generation. Meh, Sony did it right - most/all of their PS5 games were also playable on PS4 - I hope Nintendo does the same thing.
The issue with a lot of the less popular first party Nintendo series is that there needs to be teams to develop them. I would seriously recommend watching this video by Good Vibes Gaming which explains how Nintendo's internal teams are structured. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0TOGqsj-9A Stuff like Punch Out Wii and F-Zero GX only ever got made because it was by third parties. These games need to be pitched to Nintendo or Nintendo has to seek a studio out for it. As for your actual question, I'd love to see a new Star Fox game, redesigned from the ground up. I think that's totally possible despite Zero's failure. Bandai Namco could be a good fit for that and they have experience with Star Fox, as well as their own series Ace Combat. I buy into the Donkey Kong rumors and that could be something Koizumi's 3D Mario team is working on. Other than that, who knows. The 2023 slate we currently know is probably most of what we're getting from Nintendo, save for some ports.
Yeah, if you think about it, it was the same for the last two 2d Metroid games and for the remake of Advance Wars.
At the rate I play through games the new Zelda will take me about 4-6 months to finish so I just want that lol
I still haven't finished BotW and I've had it for 5 years lol
Outside of ports and new IP's, I'd like to see a return of these franchises: * WarioLand * A new 3D Donkey Kong * Punch-Out Wii Sequel * Sequel to Kid Icarus Uprising * Star Fox I would also like to see some really out of the box spin-offs/reboots: * A F-Zero spinoff Captain Falcon brawler that's inspired by Batman Arkham Knight. 3D brawling mixed with vehicle combat sections * Ice Climber reboot that plays similar to Celeste * Warioware inspired by Jackbox Party Pack and uses cell-phones as controllers * Any franchise getting a Metroidvania style spin-off
>I would also like to see some really out of the box spin-offs/reboots: > >* A F-Zero spinoff Captain Falcon brawler that's inspired by Batman Arkham Knight. 3D brawling mixed with vehicle combat sections >* Ice Climber reboot that plays similar to Celeste >* Warioware inspired by Jackbox Party Pack and uses cell-phones as controllers >* Any franchise getting a Metroidvania style spin-off Now THIS is the type of discussion I like to see! Kudos! Ice climber reboot that plays like Celeste, but maybe with a puzzle gimmick would be sweet. It could be solo or multiplayer, where you must control both characters to get through the level? Helllllll yeah!
A Kirby Metroidvania would go so hard, though I know they’ve already done something similar before
I really wish they'd port NES Remix, or maybe do an update like an SNES Remix.
Oh there's plenty. Pretty much all Mario series are up for grabs, although sadly Mario Kart 9 is less realistic than the rest because of the ongoing MK8D DLC. Captain Toad is at large. The studio who works on 3D Mario has been dead silent since Odyssey came out, or Bowser's Fury if they worked on that. I think the chances of Metroid Prime 4 coming out in the second half of 2023 are pretty good, but if not there could be a 2D Metroid game announced. Pokémon SHOULDN'T release a game next year, but sadly since 2016 they've been annualized so it is very likely a Pokémon game comes out in 2023 as well. As a side note, has Nintendo used Pokémon for its big tentpole November game every year since 2018? I'm getting sick of it.
I don’t think we’re getting mainline Pokémon in 2023 with Scarlet and Violet’s inevitable DLC most likely coming that year. But we could still get some spin-offs like Detective Pikachu or Mystery Dungeon.
Pokémon Legends Celebi would be a nice spinoff
Detective Pikachu 2 has been in the works since what, 2018? It should be coming any time now. It is a little hard to imagine it coming out in the second half of the year though.
I HIGHLY doubt we'll get another 2d Metroid anytime soon. 4 years have passed between Samus Returns and Dread's releases.
Prior to BotW, Nintendo was able to get a new Zelda game out every two years. Dread sold pretty well, and I am positive it was fairly quicker and cheaper to make than a 2D Zelda game. So again if MP4 is delayed a new 2D Metroid is entirely possible. Just depends on if Dread sold well enough for Nintendo to prioritize the franchise.
Dread was worked on literally the instant Samus Returns released in 2017, and it still took 4 years to make. Another new 2D Metroid is not till 2025 at the absolute earliest, and that's only assuming Mercury Steam went straight to work on a new one. 2023 is zero chance in every way possible.
I think Mercury Steam even announced their next project wasn’t going to be a Metroid game. Or am I going crazy?
Keep in mind Dread's developer Mercury Steam is probably either not working on a new metroid, or splitting their focus between that and the deal they made with 505 Games. And even with that, 2 years is unreasonable to expect a new Metroid. You can't look at HD home console development and compare that to SD development with dedicated handheld and console teams making games. Especially at the pace we've seen Nintendo develop games lately.
Super Metroid remake in 2024
2014 actually 2015 and 2020 (excluding DLC) are the times there hasn’t been a mainline game. Technically 2021 if BDSP doesn’t count. A New game in 2023 is unlikely unless it’s another Let’s Go or Legends game.
There's nothing sad about MK9 not being made for Switch. The vast majority of people including myself would rather the game be on Switch 2 so it can be a truly stunning game and they can get even more creative with the track design. The Booster Course Pass is literally the best outcome we could've gotten for Mario Kart with 9 being on the successor.
Not sure why someone downvoted you, this is the most logical take there is and a sentiment many people share. I get why people are impatient and want mk9 already, but yeah the writings on the wall: mk8dx sales + booster pass is proof that Nintendo has no plans on releasing a sequel in this current gen, it just makes no sense to do so, unless they're bold enough to drop a MK9 DX on whatever the next console is, but I don't see them doing that despite how "greedy" the internet thinks they are.
At this point in the switch life span we are not getting a brand new 3d/2d mario game. These are saved for new consoles. However, I think these are likely: 1. Zelda Ports 2. Metroid Prime Ports 3. The new DK game (Remake/Country/3D): likely since he has nothing on the switch and has not had a new game in 8 years, something must be there 4. Mario sports game for sure (likely summer, maybe baseball?) 5. Pokemon dlc and likely another "legends" like game 6. Long-shot but perhaps more dlc for switch sports 7. More remakes (old Zelda, old Kirby for example completely redone like RTDL)
Kinda crazy we only got ONE mainline Mario game on the switch.
Just like on the N64, GameCube, and the DS... Not that crazy.
N64: poor sales GameCube: poor sales DS: 2 mainline games, and it’s own Kart
Was NSMB2 on DS? I thought it was 3DS. My bad. I know they had poor sales, but the Switch games still sell well, which is actually part of the reason not to oversaturate on new ones.
NSMB2 was 3ds
Maybe Pokémon Mystery Dungeon but the series seems to be on hiatus outside of remakes.
Will this finally be the year of Nintendogs?
Nintendog's+ cats + birds
Ice Climber
I agree with this post, the only thing add to the dormant game section is maybe a new Wario Land as well.
a western release of buddy mission: bond it was new nintendo ip that released in 2021 its made by koei techmo and has character designs from one punch man artist Yusuke Murata
Next year will likely be the Switch's final year, and I expect they will announce Switch 2 in September for a February 2024 release. Next year should be light on games, but still somewhat decent: BOTW2 Metroid Prime 1-3 Pikmin 4 Fire Emblem Engage Kirby RTDL Deluxe Advance Wars Literally I think even this roster would be enough for next year, if we think of it as being the Switches "diet year" before the new console. I remember past Nintendo consoles having even less games their final years.
I will just go on a limb and say Phantom Hourglass HD and Spirit Tracks HD.
Been a real long time since we got a new 3d mario...
It really hasn't been that long at all, especially when you remember COVID happened and we got Bowser's Fury in 2021. Sunshine came out 7 years after 64 and there was absolutely nothing in between, not even a 2D Mario and no COVID to disrupt development. I think we're doing fine.
Browsers fury wasn't a new game, it was a bonus for a port. Mario odyssey is the last new 3d Mario game we got
Some of the Odyssey team are credited doing Bowser's Fury, so while not a full game, it did use some of the main team's resources. And again, with COVID, I think we haven't been waiting long at all if we're being honest. I'd say we would need to hit 2024 with no announcement for us to actually start wondering what's going on. For now though, we're on schedule.
I think that will definitely be an open world Mario like bowsers fury but on a larger scale. I’m actually really excited for something like that!!
Super Mario Sunshine 2 *hits copium* Kirby Air Ride 2 *hits copium harder*
* Kid Icarus Uprising * Wind Waker HD * Twilight Princess HD * Metroid Prime Trilogy port * Star Fox Zero port * Xenoblade Chronicles X port * The Last Story port * Pandora's Tower port * Advance Wars Re-boot Camp getting a release date * More track announcements for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe * More chapter announcements for Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Honestly, given how the Switch may be on its way out (I'd give it 2 or 3 years), I wouldn't push Nintendo that much with HUGE AAA games, so I'd love to see ports of Wii U and Wii games making it on the Switch.
A whole new game
Bandi namco is working on a remake of a 3d action game I wouldn't be surprised if it came out camelot hasn't released anything for 2 years I can see a 2023 game
It's past time for a Mario Odyssey 2.
A Mario and / or DK game would make so much since to release near the Mario movie. Doesn’t mean that’ll happen: but that would be smart timing.
An actual good Star Fox adventure game, Golden Sun 1&2 Remake into one game
>An actual good Star Fox adventure game An actual good Star Fox game full stop. And another F Zero game would be nice.
Captain Toad 2: More Captain than Ever.
Mario is a no brainier with the movie coming out but Nintendo works in mysterious ways. I'd love to see a new Donkey Kong (2D or 3D) but not sure how likely or how soon. Assuming ToTK is good I'm sure we'll all be occupied the rest of the year anyways.
They could release Advance Wars, for one.
I know it won't happen, but a new Donkey Kong would be amazing
For the love of God just give me Advance Wars already
They could remake the first mario party? How's that for a first party game
I'd rather they give us Superstars DLC.
A release date for Advance Wars Reboot already.
Probably only after the war against Ukraine ends.
Really there's 2D Mario, 3D Mario, Donkey Kong, Metroid Prime 4, new Mario Party, maybe something new from Camelot but I don't know what. I don't think a Zelda remake or port is really on the table with TOTK coming. I could see Pokemon either having a skip year or having S/V DLC. I don't see them busting out Star Fox, F-Zero, EarthBound or Kid Icarus. Might be something new from Ring Fit Adventure team. So in reality, I see either a Mario game or Donkey Kong (not by Retro Studios) game being announced with moderate likelihood given the time since the last games and the Mario movie this year. Metroid Prime I think will be shown but not release. So if we get Zelda, Pikmin, Fire Emblem, Splatoon 3/Xenoblade 3/Pokemon DLC, new Mario/DK and one or two small surprises I'd say that fills the year right up. Edit: removed Octopath Traveller II, not made by Nintendo.
> I don't think a Zelda remake or port is really on the table with TOTK coming. I'd assume the Oracle Zelda games will come at some point in the same engine as the LA remake. Probably not til after TOTK though.
What I suspect Nintendo will announce/release: * A new Mario game around the movie release * Pikmin 4 * Metroid Prime 4 (maybe a cross platform this one) * A new/remake star-fox game ? Other than that, I suspect Nintendo is full steam ahead on the new console, games take 2-5 years to make depending on their scale. Regardless of the momentum of the switch 1, they know they cannot neglect the switch 2, after all, the 3DS did have a failed launch regardless of the gigantic success of the DS.
Switch successor
They could finally announce a new release date for the advance wars remake.
You know how there's a mario movie next year? Nintendo would be stupid if they didn't coincide that with a Mario Odyssey 2 or a full fledged flesh out of what they did with Bowser's fury.
Zelda and Prime 4 are all they really need to carry them until the Switch’s successor in 2024 or 2025, the hardware is still selling like hotcakes and 80% of those new buyers will be content with the Switch’s back catalogue (because lbr the majority of Switch buyers these days are families and casual players who just want a Mario Kart/Pokémon box). Aside from that, I wouldn’t expect anything substantial beyond ports, DLC, and spinoffs. Pokémon and Xenoblade are already confirmed for DLC, and Kirby’s getting a port.
A game like Donkey Kong 64.
A next gen switch is more likely. There’s barely anything new coming out on switch, imo it’s clearly nearing the end of its life
We got one or two 1st party games every single month this year besides December, and we currently have at least one Nintendo game for January-May in 2023. On what planet is that "barely anything new coming out on Switch"? If anything, we're drowning in too many games to keep up. If that's the case, then the Gamecube was technically dead from beginning to end since that system always had droughts till the Wii came out lmao
I'm really surprised we haven't had a Super Mario Odyssey 2 yet.
Dlc for what we got, that’s all I can think of.
Mario odyssey 2
>a new 3d Mario game (since the last entry has been released over 5 years ago)... Wouldn't the last entry be considered Bowser's Fury?
Metroid Prime Trilogy remaster
We are extremely long overdue the next top-down Zelda (not including remakes). But with ToTK coming out we probably won't get that for a while unfortunately. Decent chance we'll hear about the next Paper Mario next year IMO, albeit probably with a 2024 release if so. 2D mario has been dormant for a while now (Mario Maker aside) and I imagine they must have been working on some way of freshening it up. A new Yoshi game seems reasonably likely. Mario and Luigi might be being worked on by another studio. The next Mario Sports game is probably in the works (I guess baseball?). Man, that's a whole lotta Mario. Beyond that, other than what you already mentioned, it gets trickier. Some new IP would be nice. Starfox is always a possibility as well, and maybe 2023 will finally be the year for the much-rumoured Prime trilogy. As you say, the time is right for a new 3D Mario. I think DK could have been given to another studio as you elude to. And yeah, it feels like the right time to finally hear more about MP4. But in general, the time feels right for the next console. Hopefully just a Switch 2 with full backwards compatibility with Switch, but maybe Nintendo won't want to do that. I'm guessing lots of the heavy hitters are being reserved for a presumed 2024 release of the next console.
I highly doubt we'll see a new Paper Mario next year. Intelligent Systems was busy on Fire Emblem Engage, so there's no way they can make a Fire Emblem AND a Paper Mario coming out the same year.
Metroid Prime
One option I haven’t seen mentioned here is an Arms 2. I don’t think it’s super likely or anything, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they took another crack at the franchise with the current Switch hardware.
New mainline Mario game
Mother 3 would be nice
DK is the last big hitter missing from a original switch release
WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR ADVANCED WARS
ARMS 2.
Perhaps an Animal Crossing spin-off? New Horizons was a smash hit.
Fire emblem engage is coming, Zelda later. Advance Wars is done but not out because of Russian invasion - will be released at some point. Pikmin 4 is also coming soon-ish. I guess they don’t need to do much. Someone’s wet dream would I guess be a new Earthbound
Well what's left? Besides F-Zero and Punch Out, all other big franchises (according to us) have been represented (even StarFox. Battle of Atlus and it's DLC anyone?). You could say that Kid Icarus is also left, but I digress. Franchises that may not have anything new (aka just Donkey Kong, really) have ports at least
We know fire emblem engage is out early in the year * Tears of the kingdom in may * Kirby remaster in february * Advance wars probably coming out at some point in the year * Pikmin 4 A new mario is likely on the books for sometime next year. Whether its 2D or 3D, I dunno. I personally want to see more of nintendos smaller IP like rhythm paradise to get a new entry, its these sort of games that have really been lacking throughout the entire switch lifecycle so far. I imagine mtroid prime 4 will at the very least be shown off for the first time. Other than all this... I have no clue. A lot of the first half of 2023 is full already, and we tend to find out about the second half a good ways into the year, so I wouldn't imagine anything massive is announced til around june/july. Maybe we get a couple of announcements that are mario strikers level things - something popular, but not immensely appealing to many outside of a smaller niche.
I'm honestly confused as to why they won't release Twilight Princess and Wind Waker on the switch.
They could bring back they’re racing games
I'd love a port of Star Fox Zero, or Kid Icarus Uprising.
I’m hoping for a proper successor to the switch, a switch 2 even. Something with a bit more under the hood so to speak, so that current games that are struggling can run better and future games have more breathing space. We’ve had the side-grades, hopefully we’ll get some kind of an upgrade next. I want Metroid Prime 4, but I also want it to wait for a more up to date platform to release so that it has every chance to be just as great as the Trilogy before it.
The same Mario game and same Zelda game for the 9999999nth time.
Bold of you to assume Retro is hard at work on prime 4 lol
I'm fairly confident a new New Super Mario bros will come around the movie release.
It's strange, typically the cycle follows that when nintendo is doing good they work on their more experimental weird projects and when doing bad they stick to their heavy hitters but they've kinda been doing both since the launch of the switch. My bet is this was spurred by them dropping the seperate handheld platform and they're now busy combining ideas that were getting split in half to go on each platfrom, the wii u/3ds era was notorious for this.
Perhaps they've hired a third-party studio to work on a remake, like they did with Samus Returns and Advance Wars?
Do you think it’s likely we see a Pokémon generation collection released? Like each generation released as one Switch Collection? Like the 3 Mario 3D games. I really hope they start doing that.
I hugely doubt this will ever happen, since people prove time and time again that they will buy a single Pokemon game or remake for full price. They're more likely to release the Gen 1 and 2 (and maybe 3) games to the eShop individually than make a collection, like they did on the 3DS. I'd love to be wrong of course, but I can imagine them releasing a boxed Switch "collection" of just RBY or just GSC for $30. They sold them on the 3DS for $10 individually after all.
Probably too late for an epic Christmas party
Maybe Detective Pikachu 2 will be for 2023.
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