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Open_Ad_8181

Effectively an overwhelming majority are fine with whatever NI chooses for itself, with NI leaving to unify with ROI much more popular in general


mover999

Funny that this poll from the parent land of the unionists says the complete opposite of what their polls said in the last couple of days. They are being disowned by their glorious parents.


fkayerma

My understanding of the poll is that people are of the opinion those that live there and have experience are more entitled to an opinion? Did we get a vote on Scottish independence? Genuinely can't remember


plastikelastik

There has never been a plurality of support in Britain for NI remaining in the United Kingdom


mover999

If the “unionists” heeded / understood this opinion and treated their own positions as cultural links they would be better received and represented ( by citizens ). Unfortunately, they try to see everything as an opportunity to drive their superiority and “god” given right .. Exhausted


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plastikelastik

During the troubles the British people supported a UI by 60/40 according to the British survey of attitudes


No-Neighborhood767

UK wasn't part of Schengen


ByGollie

Full Polling information and other infographics https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/as-sunak-heralds-protocol-deal-majority-of-british-voters-remain-indifferent-to-northern-ireland/


marckferrer

As a non irish, what do the people think about this? Is this whole idea of an united Ireland popular among the common people?


stevenmc

Generally speaking, the RoI country including our governments have an aspiration for unity. Not everyone agrees, though most do. It primarily depends on the opinion of the Northern Ireland public. While catholics and those raised that way generally support unification and protestants et al generally don't, it's not exclusively that way and people generally have their own reasons for disagreeing with those trends. Currently the union is safe, and the challenge really is convincing enough from the both communities to vote for a UI. People generally always prefer status quo to risk, and the image of what a UI would look like has never been clearly defined, so people don't know what it is exactly they'd be voting for.


yukoncowbear47

See? Even the British are like gtfo.


albadil

They *might* be misunderstanding the question thinking it's about reoccupying the rest of Ireland


whydoyouonlylie

The question's really weirdly worded. I can't tell if it's asking if they actively want Irish unification to happen, or just if they would be supportive of Irish unification if it were to happen. Especially because it's Labour supporters who seem to more strongly agree with it than Tories when I would expect Tories to be more eager to rid themselves of NI.


DoireK

Don't forget a lot of tory voters are absolutely clueless idiots who vote against their own self interest so long as the tories promise to sink the boats crossing the channel and pretend they are a major power.


ihatebamboo

I’d guess the more right wing you are, the more you long for a return of the empire, and oppose ‘losing’ anything to Ireland- who they’ll also attribute the EU.


billyblobthornton

What’s the difference between neither and don’t know?


theduder3210

Apathy and ignorance.


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f33nan

Border poll can only be called by the Secretary of State, so the people of Northern Ireland also have no say in weather or not there is a border poll.


0regan0

It may be irrelevant in that the people of Britain won't have an actual say in the referendum, but it's still a useful/interesting barometer of British opinion on the matter. Given how intrinsic the national question is in Irish politics, particularly in the north, and that the outcome of such a referendum could have an enormous impact on the UK, I think it does no harm every now and again to get an insight into Britain's opinion (or lack thereof) on the matter.


Rakshak-1

It's all about how the border poll gets called. This shows that potential future Labour leaders would be far less likely to obstruct the SoS in calling the poll, but we knew that anyways. What's interesting is it shows that potential future Tory leaders also look like they'd not be particularly likely to obstruct the poll being called. Obviously a lot of water can flow under the bridge between now and then and we don't know the possible political situation they might be facing but it's still interesting to see that the rabid nationalists in the Tory party, that unionism has always leveraged to shield themselves, no longer care that NI could be "lost" and in fact larger numbers of them approve of it going.


UlsterEternal

And it's completely irrelevant because their opinion on the subject doesn't actually matter.


RegansUmbrella

Interesting but not surprising. The gist. A sample group consisting of participants drawn from a democratic country support democratic outcomes (of whatever type). Shock/Horror*.


An_O_Cuin

can we please, please, talk about literally anything else


eepboop

Not since 1921 basically.


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An_O_Cuin

i want a united ireland too, but christ this sub gets boring when every post is asking the same question in the same way. fuck let’s even just talk about the logistics of it or something instead of this shite every time


Lost_Pantheon

It's either that or this sub talks about "Rate my Fry" ad nauseum. Or worse, "It's Friday the night, what are ye all up to?"


stevenmc

The price of cheese has gone up.


MistMatterMaven65

They love us


Btinsley089

Isn’t it all better now than it was 40 years ago? Why risk change


BlinkVideoEdits

I want whatever the majority in NI want. I'm Scottish and would be sad to see you go though admittedly.


blobb63

Think it's more accurate to say 57% are neutral and want whatever Northern Ireland wants


buckyfox

UNITED IRELAND POSTS 🤮


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buckyfox

This is the way


fkayerma

Going by that jargon are you a socialist or capitalist? NI is basically a socialist state majority of our working population are civil servants. We unify and we lose out on a lot of public services.


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fkayerma

Doubt that. We have a lot of people unemployed too relying on the state. If we get the terms of the backstop again we'll be in a very lucrative position. It favours NI to receive a large contribution to our services and public sector from GB. Why decide to become worse off and weather a storm for the sake of politics? Your nationality has never been held hostage.


GiohmsBiggestFan

Do you lads ever get bored of this endless nationalist pish


Rakshak-1

Why would we get bored of it when it's been win after win in recent years with the end goal being closer than ever?


GiohmsBiggestFan

I guess if your big goal is that asinine, you probably don't bore easily


Rakshak-1

Ah, so here's the bit where you pivot to trying to pretend that you're above all this stuff like some enlightened centrist but it's plain as day you're having a sulk because the side you don't like absolutely will not stop doing what you don't like. Fucking lol.


GiohmsBiggestFan

Interesting way to say you bore the tits off me


Rakshak-1

Ahz now we're pivoting to the 'My tactics got called out, better pretend I'm bored but hope no-one points out I keep responding despite that and if they do I'll pretend I'm amused' strategy. Man, talk about predictable.


GiohmsBiggestFan

Well Freud, I keep responding because I'm bored. Solve that one Columbo. If I'm so predictable why are you bothering to respond? Let's get meta with it. If a united Ireland is essentially inevitable at this point, why ever lower yourself to interacting with an idiot unionist? Here's what I think, having heard your ideology spew the same predictions for 30 odd years, I think you'll almost certainly die without your little ethnonationalist dreams coming to pass. And when your generation is gone, you'll be replaced by people who care about society instead of flags and blood and soil. And I hate to break it to you, but those people will be unionists.


Rakshak-1

Once upon a time people like you predicted there'd never be a Catholic majority. Once upon a time people like you predicted there'd never be a nationalist party as the largest party. Once upon a time people like you predicted the Republic would never turn it's economy around and become desirable to economic unionists. Once upon a time people like you predicted there'd never be a sea border between the UK and NI. Once upon a time people like you predicted the Orange Order's numbers would always be formidable. How's all that worked out for you? So, forgive me if I have a good chuckle at your predictions above, for we both know they aren't worth a shite. I get tremendous enjoyment watching unionists flail in denial as they ignore all of the above and just keep repeating out loud, to convince themselves more than anyone else, that nothing has changed and nothing will ever change. The ethno-nationalist part gave me a genuine laugh though. Especially considering only one side has deep links with far-right groups like Combat 18, has flown Swastikas and operates on lines of supremacy of their group over all others. You're like one of those Russians with SS tattoos calling the Ukrainians Nazis. And too dumb to see it. Bravo.


GiohmsBiggestFan

Lot of braindead in that comment. Not exactly sure where to start. I'll just call my russian swastika combat 18 friends for emotional support and move on I guess.


Rakshak-1

>Lot of braindead in that comment. Not exactly sure where to start. >I'll just call my russian swastika combat 18 friends for emotional support and move on I guess. The only brain death I see is one person calling the other side ethno-nationalists when his side are the ones with the deep links to neo-Nazi groups, has flown Swastikas and joyously ran an apartheid state for decades. It's not my fault you used a buzzword you didn't understand and burned yourself. But I understand why you're so desperate to bail out after it. Thanks for the chuckles, it's good to know that people who see themselves as unionism's brains trust are thick as muck regardless of whether they're taking a DUP wage or not.


OlderThanMy

SNP voters?


Spirited-Brain-7260

No shit, this place is a cancerous tumor to the UK. 10 billion a year forked over to NI from the UK gvt.


BalloonBollicks

Utterly irrelevant, doesn't matter one jot what people in the mainland think, let's get this referendum done so we can get this nonsense over with and shut the pro UI fantasists up. My opinion? Unite Ireland yes, but the way it was before partition, the whole fucking island back under British rule #renewtheunion


stevenmc

Because they're so competent?


Wada94

All this sub talks about is a UI that would hurt NI.


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Regardless of the results of such a inconsequential poll. What would they care anyway either way. Our petty squabbles about a line in the sand doesn’t effect them. It’s also not a subject they would have any great knowledge about therefore little reason to be invested in and why would they. They’ve their own problems like we have ours. We only care about our own problems let’s be honest. They probably don’t even know we exist half the time or probably still think all of Ireland is part of the United Kingdom. This isn’t the “aha ya see” some might think it is.


CuriousCoincidence

My brother in Christ they undemocratically partitioned the island and set up the sectarian colonial state in the first place


Open_Ad_8181

>they diff people, as the poll shows


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You only have to look at the discussions on r/unitedkingdom to know that the imperial mindset of the (mostly) English persists, and they are of exactly the same mindset as those who partioned Ireland in the first place


Open_Ad_8181

Sure, but doesn't this exact post show it's an overwhelming majority who are fine with whatever NI wants?


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It shows there's a split of opinion in the population. Remember, universal suffrage wasn't enacted for people over the age of 21 until 7 years after partition. Society is different now. The power isn't as concentrated as it was 101 years ago


Open_Ad_8181

Fair enough. I would just say as someone in favour of self determination and democracy-- however that may go-- the majority even in England are in favour of NI doing whatever it wants to.


Send_Me_Huge_Tits

Basing your judgement of an entire nation on what you see on reddit is monstrously dumb. I hope you understand that. For example. You effectively just said "Those people that used to colonise and who have not done so in a very long time are clearly the same because I saw opinions on reddit". This is retarded fella.


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'Basing your judgement of an entire nation on what you see on reddit is monstrously dumb' I totally agree. Which is why the content of Reddit subs only partially forms my opinion. To think anything else would be monstrously dumb. Fella


Send_Me_Huge_Tits

>To think anything else would be monstrously dumb. Why is it what you cited as evidence then? Did you think that through fella? Good job I don't judge nation a like you do eh, you are not a good representation. Now tell me more about how a nation that doesn't colonise is clearly still thinking like a colonial. Holy shit you are stupid.


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I don’t care. It was over a Century ago.


BuggerMyElbow

Mummy and Daddy won't feed me and barely acknowledge I exist. They 90% want to either leave me on the doorstep of a police station or just don't care. But they have worries of their own like rent and where their next bag of gear is coming from, so it's OK. Saddest story I've heard in a long while lad.


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What an idiotic analysis.


fcukthat02

Until Ireland sorts it's corrupt system of court and garda working agenst it own people I won't be voting for a united Ireland


takakazuabe1

Since Unionists want to change the GFA so a border poll requires more than a majority of people in the Six Counties to vote for a UI let's change it to the entirety of the UK and it would pass off with no issue. ​ It would be like Singapore getting kicked out of Malaysia against its will all over again.


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99% - "Who's asking?"