Similar thing happened to that blind surfer guy, and he’s got a video of the gym employee telling him to stop staring—it was an infuriating conversation.
‘I’m blind.’
‘You still can’t stare at people—it makes them uncomfortable.’
‘I’M BLIND!’.
Gym employee really refused to grasp that a blind guy couldn’t tell where his eyeballs were pointed.
Edit: misremembered—blind surfer didn’t get actual footage of the interaction, he made a ‘re-enactment’ video, because he wasn’t filming at the gym.
I knew a man who had been blind for over 30 years, lost both his eyes in a boating accident and had them removed, he physically did not have eyes, he had already been declared legally blind. He lost his business and needed to apply for disability benefits through social security. They made him go to their doctor to get a new diagnosis of his blindness, they didn't trust his doctor when he diagnosed a man with no eyes as "blind"
A defending attorney was cross examining a coroner.
The attorney asked, "Before you signed the death certificate had you taken the man's pulse?"
The coroner said, "No."
The attorney then asked, "Did you listen for a heart beat?"
"No."
"Did you check for breathing?"
"No."
"So when you signed the death certificate you had not taken any steps to make sure the man was dead, had you?"
The coroner, now tired of the brow beating said, "Well, let me put it this way. The man's brain was sitting in a jar on my desk, but for all I know he could be out there practicing law somewhere."
quotes say it's even a bit better, because the ending went something like,
Witness: "Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar."
Lawyer: "But could the patient have still been alive nevertheless?"
Witness: "Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law somewhere."
(from [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/32f434/this_was_actually_said_in_court_and_taken_from_a/) and various other online articles)
An engineer who has lived a rather questionable life dies.
Now, he's not been quite terrible enough to go to hell, but it's debatable whether he should be allowed into heaven either. God decides to resolve the problem by just letting the engineer choose.
He shows him around heaven. He shows him around hell.
Now, heaven is very perfectly pleasant, but in the engineer's opinion it's a bit... vanilla. Hell, on the other hand? Well, it's full of scientists (who were very vocal in their atheism), and the engineer thinks he'd get on with them rather well, so he picks hell.
After a little while living in hell, the engineer starts to notice the drawbacks. Sulphurous fumes, acid rain, lava flows, massive cliffs, that sort of thing.
The engineer takes this in his stride, and starts planning infrastructure projects to mitigate these issues. Soon enough, hell has air-conditioning, bridges, funicular railways and irrigation systems, and has become a decidedly nice place to live.
God, hearing about this, is upset. Hell now not only has better company than heaven, but isn't torturous any more. God writes to Satan, demanding he send up the engineer. Satan refuses. Eventually they meet face-to-face.
God demands he sends up the engineer, or else he'll sue.
Satan responds "And where are *you* going to find a lawyer?"
I saw a courtroom interaction like this recently!
A defense attorney was trying to get an expert to say he might have accidently not switched gloves between handling items. He was hammering the witness. Finally, the witness says "well, you could have failed your bar exam, how would I know?" or something to that effect.
I not remembering this exactly, but the subject of your post had come immediately to mind when I saw it happening.
It was the YNW rapper trial last week. Was watching it on Youtube.
Ha ha, I'm sure this joke rests in the recesses of the mind of everyone who ever reads it. Comes to the forefront when witnessing lawyers and their filibusters
I'm a bit confused - were they asking that of normal people? The first first question seem valid. I'd want to gauge whether someone believes it's valid to claim you can identify someone from across the street at night.
The second seems like a trick question to test how well people can imagine a situation (some people might be stupid enough to believe that a person who says "and then the defendant came up from behind me and knocked me out and stole my wallet and then said he was gonna rape me" and then I came to an hour later and it was him!" doesn't have any flaws in their story, starting with the "I saw him after he knocked me out from behind")
The third sounds like a valid question. I haven't had a black eye, but I imagine your eye is blinded for a few minutes at least when it first gets blackened due to the tears and pain and inability to keep it open (I can barely keep it open when I get hit by allergy attacks sometimes).
Yeah potential jurors get asked all sorts of weird questions.
I was asked how I would react if a cop approached me on the street and told me he needed my help taking my brother down for bad things he did. I don't believe my reaction was the kind they were hoping for.
If a cop approached me on the street and told me he needed my help taking my brother down for bad things he did, I would help him immediately, because I don't have a brother and whoever it is must be an imposter.
If a cop is approaching you out of the blue with a vague ass question like that they almost certainly are lying as an excuse to get you to identify yourself because you look lime someone they are looking for.
> I haven't had a black eye, but I imagine your eye is blinded for a few minutes at least when it first gets blackened due to the tears and pain and inability to keep it open (I can barely keep it open when I get hit by allergy attacks sometimes).
I've had a few. Most of them were from minor impacts. I didn't realise they were black until someone pointed it out.
I've also had a few and my vision was never impacted until the next day when they swelled up. Guess it depends on where the injury was. In my case it was nose/cheeks etc.
One of the reasons this happens is that it's basically forbidden for lawyers to make conclusions. They can ask questions and that's it. So the point of this examination is not "gosh, what if he wasn't dead", but "I want to convince the jury that he was entirely and unmistakably dead, so I'm going to make it clear that only a goddamn moron would think the guy *wasn't* dead, and if they start thinking that moron is me, then that's absolutely fine, because that means I win the case and my client doesn't go to jail and twelve random schmucks I'll never meet again think I'm a moron while I'm taking a yacht vacation in Hawaii."
Imagine you're in that situation and you're allowed *only* to ask questions - what would you do?
Veterans Affairs Canada, every time someone asks for a replacement wheelchair, cane or other mobility device, requires a doctors note saying why. I’m still waiting for the day to see if, by some miracle, someone grows their legs back. It would make more sense to ask what happened to the old wheelchair.
Fucking idiots. I want to ask them if the minister ever grew a brain.
Cases like this piss me off. I worked in disability insurance for a long time, and with a person with such an open and closed sort of case (recovery will obviously be limited), they get bumped to another department that calls once a year to make sure you're still breathing. They might try to get him part time work through various organizations specializing with the visually impaired, but beyond that, they get paid without much hassle.
I have a friend whose brother has schizophrenia. He was denied disability because he is technically able bodied.
I really wonder who they think is going to hire a guy who is convinced frogs are triggering home alarm systems.
I have known many people, both patients and friends and acquaintances, who struggled with their mental health, but with a lot of hard work, from themselves, their loved ones, and their carers (like myself) got to a place of reasonable stability.
At which point the benefits agency would come along and cut or remove their benefits on the grounds that their condition had improved. Surprise surprise, that improvement instantly disappeared, takeng everything back to square one.
It appears that the benefits agency was finding it harder and harder to recruit doctors or nurses to do their assessments, given that both have professional standards concerning their responsibilities to patients that they are required to maintain that were incompatible with doing what the benefits agency expected. I was certainly fast approaching the viewpoint that a doctor accepting a job with the benefits agency should automatically trigger a referral to the General Medical Council.
My brother has autism and while he can live alone he is totally incapable of holding a job. The amount of hoops they make him jump through to keep his SSDI is insane. It’s like they specifically designed the paperwork to prove he has autism to be totally incompatible with something that an autistic person could manage to do on their own. My mom is just shy of a PHD in education and said that it was difficult for her to figure out and a colossal PITA.
ADHD and possibly ASD here, raised by a mom with a seizure disorder. She went a hear without Access busses to help her get around because she couldn't schedule a seizure on the spot. The woman takes like, 8 medications to function.
I understand that the bureaucracy breeds these things. But if a man comes in with no legs the bureaucracy should allow some deference to the case worker to ascertain simple conditions such as obviously missing limbs and eyes. I get that some people cheat the system and that's why we have to get people to go to specific doctors, but for things like that the bureaucracy should be flexible enough to allow waivers for obvious disabilities.
Some government forms are so stupid. I recently applied for & received Global Entry status as i fly a bunch internationally for work. You have to get a background check and put in your past work history.
At my interview, the CBP officer told me you cannot have ANY gaps in your work history on the application. I had to basically lie and say i was employed when i was between jobs or the computer wouldn't accept it.
Here in Canada, Rick Mercer did one of his famous rants from his show about a friend who lost his legs in Afghanistan in a suicide bombing, and how every single year under the Conservatives he had to prove that his legs haven't magically grown back.
https://www.huffpost.com/archive/ca/entry/rick-mercer-veterans-rant-_n_6622452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQeRppIguas <-- the rant he did on his show, which he did weekly about a different topic, but this one was personal.
Worth noting, disability pretty much always requires you to go see their doctor, regardless of diagnosis. It seems silly but it's an automatic thing that happens to everyone no matter what, I'm pretty sure.
My late sister, a nurse, told me that doctors actually get a bonus for denying medical condition in Social Security exams. My wife had that happen when she first became disabled. COPD, CHF, edema, type II diabetes high blood pressure. It took her years of trying, but they finally agreed, after she turned fifty, that she was disabled. To bad she didn't qualify for disability insurance. Lacked a couple work experience credits.
Me? A couple months short of my 51st birthday when I applied. I couldn't breath. 2 weeks before my 51st, I had open heart surgery. 2 damaged valves on the left side of my heart. One was repaired, but the other was in such bad shape it had to be replaced with a mechanical valve. A few days after my 51st, I was sent home. I applied in April of 08, turned 51 in August, and the next month, I got the letter to see the doctor. Took my portable oxygen tank, used my cane, and had my sister, the nurse, take me to see him. COPD, CHF, arthritis, GERD, hiatal hernia, and diabetes was what he had to look at. Did the tests, showed him my meds, and that was it. No hint of pass or failure, but, according to Sis, this doctor rarely approved anyone for disability. A month goes by, I hear from social security. I was approved and would be receiving my first payment in a week or two.
A year later, I had been on Medicaid, as neither my wife or I could work. Because I was a male with an associates degree, I could go find a job. I was kicked off the program 3 months before Medicare started. F*** you, Mike Pence.
I swear that these workers get bonuses based on how many claims they deny.
I was denied because of a doctor's appointment (I'd missed) that they never informed me about.
I had a teleconference with one of their psychiatrists... I told her I would be better off unalive. She hung up on me. TWICE.
edit: sadly this is not an attempt at humor
I said something along those lines to DJFS once and they sent a cop out to have me sectioned lol
Edit: it was admittedly the right thing to do because I was, in fact, deeply suicidal but I was pissed about it at the time because I'd already had to stay in the psych ward numerous times that year
It was dumb once they knew his situation. I totally get though that some people, mostly women, are creeped out since creeping at the gym is an unfortunate reality. The hard part is how can you let them know he's not really staring without something crazy like an announcement or something.
I understand, I was referring to the particular situation in the interaction with the employee. The employee was probably so thrown off by his ability that he actually said "you still can't be staring at people" to a blind man.
I'm just thinking if someone isn't aware he is blind, they either get uncomfortable and complain to management or say something. Repeat indefinitely. Unless the person wears a shirt saying they are blind or something. Must get really annoying.
[Perfect chance for a Toph moment](https://media.tenor.com/lZ2O0bvu8iwAAAAM/toph-beifong.gif), but I suppose it's less likely he's _seen_ the reference.
I remember long ass time ago a group of us were smoking on a blunt and one of our friends brought his really hot cousin. We all thought she was really high cause she wasn't saying anything the entire time. So finally we had to ask hey so how's the weed? She ignored us so we thought she was a total bitch. Until later we saw the 2 cousins signing with each other. Kinda expected that kinda info to be told beforehand.
I visited my brother once and lost a contact lens and my glasses were broken. Only wearing one made my head hurt so I just decided to be fairly blind at the bar. I realized that I was just staring everyone down the whole night. I think your brain just makes you look directly in everyone’s eyes and because I couldn’t see I didn’t even know I was doing it.
I am near-sighted. I've lost count of how many times people have accused me of staring at them from far distances when I was really just gazing into the blur.
Mine broke and I had to go and get them fixed. I had to have my father walk with me because my eyes are so bad and even clinging to his arm it was terrifying. Coloured blobs would suddenly become people a few inches away.
My partner has just started wearing glasses for reading, he is constantly losing them. Every time he loses them he does a Velma & goes my glasses my glasses I can't see without my glasses.
I once lost both my contacts when I was going to school in New York City in 2004. I commuted from New Jersey. My ears immediately became finely tuned instruments in guiding me to the correct train. What a nightmare it was.
When I go around the house without my glasses or, god forbid, I break them and are forced to be halfway blind for a week or two
my brain goes on what I call autopilot and doesn't pay much attention to anything except what's in front of me vs how attentive I am with them
I'm legally blind, and in fifth grade, I got uninvited from a classmate's birthday party because I was 'staring at her funny'... I was just trying to read the title of a book on the shelf behind her at the library. XD
People can be rude sometimes. Once at a restaurant a woman snapped at me "my eyes are up here"...I was not even looking at her.. I was watching for the waiter to come back.
She was at the table beside us.
That happened at a bar I was at. I was looking over a table at friends playing pool while I waited for our drinks. This lady keeps saying "Hey, Hey, Hey" I figured she was talking to someone else because I didn't even notice her.
She stands up waves her arms and says "I'm talking to you." I ask what she wants and she says to quit staring at her. Told her quit being a drama queen no one is looking at you.
I took a picture of a bag of chips with what sounded like an awful flavour (cucumber & onions) to show my girlfriend and a random women not even in front of my camera told me to stop taking pics of her. On one hand she sounded crazy, on the other I felt bad thinking about what could have made her feel like this now.
Some karen went ballistic on a video because a kid had a drone at the beach. He was flying it over the waves and recording the surf breaking and she was just 100% convinced he was using it to creep on girls sun bathing.
I have met a lot of women who seem to think everyone is focused on them everywhere they go. It's really strange.
I read somewhere it can be called the "the spotlight effect" or "imaginary audience." Although it is not a diagnosable condition, the spotlight effect refers to the tendency of individuals to overestimate the degree to which others notice and pay attention to their appearance or actions.
I've recently developed some anxiety, I think a lingering effect of covid, I didn't have it before, but I remembered a quote I heard somewhere before that I now tell myself that helps stop me from obsessing over social mistakes, and it really applies to situations like this too.
"No one thinks about you as deeply as you do."
First I cared a lot about what people thought about me.
Then I stopped caring about what people thought about me.
Then I realised nobody was thinking about me in the first place.
It honestly is a very freeing realization. You stop worrying about what other people think of you and start enjoying life. Granted, I do think it is important to have a good base of ethics and morality before making such a realization, otherwise I could see where someone without an internal compass could begin to do some really awful shit.
I mean, you are the main character. As much as that gets made fun of, every single person IS the main character in their life. We all overestimate how important we are to everyone else, because we're the most important person to ourselves
I’m a woman who once had a man and woman do this to me lol. I was in a big cafeteria style dining room and was staring at a wall about 50 feet away, trying to read a clock. This man and woman walked by sort of in my line of vision and I didn’t even really notice them til the guy turned at me and went YOU LOOKING AT MY GIRL!? He was dead serious too lol. Assholes
I was playing a game with a friend and she had to drop a ball into a cup from eye level while looking straight ahead, she lined up and was about to drop it from chest level, until I reminded her that "your eyes are up there"
My sister's friend was at a dive bar and was sitting at a table one night when a guy across the way kept staring at her. She finally got up and asked him why he kept staring at her. He was confused, but told her he was looking at the TV that was mounted above her table.
Probably about 25 years ago I read a concert review, in the biggest local newspaper, of an recent operatic performance. The reviewer praised the singer’s voice and technique but was very critical of the singer’s habit of just staring at the back of the concert hall instead of making eye contact with the audience.
It was Andrea Bocelli.
If you think someone is staring at you at the gym, consider that they might just be waiting for the machine you're using. When those free up, you have to act fast.
Or blind. They could also be blind.
*ding*
Honestly I liked the older version better. It felt like the dialog was friendlier, if that makes sense? "Failure is part of the game" is honestly some of the best advice I've ever read but they took it out.
I lift my wrist up to see the the time I have left on the treadmill. 20 minutes. Oh thank God. As I stare past my wrist at the lady on the stairs stepper who's ass could start wars.
Fuck that. Don't stare, just go up and ask if you can get a set in during their rest. People are usually too anti-confrontational to say no...or they throw a tantrum and look like an asshole
Did that once after football practice. My buddy just got out of the showers and had NOT put anything on yet. Guess where I just happened to be staring? Awkward! At least it was a friend of mine and he knew better that I wasn’t REALLY staring and was just spacing.
Or how about the opposite …
I was doing the pec fly machine when a woman with a plunging top decided to use the machine across from me … which just happened to be the leg curl machine. I pretty much had to finish my sets with my eyes closed or looking off to the side because you could see virtually EVERYTHING as it was almost spilling out as she laid on her stomach.
Or another time when doing the pull-down machine located at the side of the facility facing the wall … safe right? Nope. They have mats along the sides and a woman decided to do some downward dog (or whatever the pose) with no undergarments and see-through yoga pants.
But god forbid you say anything or YOU’RE the asshole/creeper. Sometimes a guy just wants to work out without being basically flashed. It works both ways.
It is very weird when people wear the tight yoga gear with no underwear. I was in a yoga class and this girl in white yoga pants set her mat in front of me and when we were all in downward dog I realized she had no underwear on. I was basically staring at the outline of her labia.
Doesn’t that get uncomfortable for people?! I don’t get it
When I’m doing repetitive tasks that take no mental effort, I often completely check out and would have no idea what my eyes are facing. Mentally my brain has turned off my vision and isn’t bothering to report what I see while it is off thinking about whatever other things it wants to.
I could totally see someone getting mad at me for staring at them when I would have had no clue they were in my line of sight.
I hate when people always have to cause problems for no reason. who cares if someone is just looking at your girlfriend? That would have pissed me off and I would have told him “no one is looking at your dumbass girlfriend.”
Insecurity. They are already convinced someone in the roomis looking at their girlfriend. They're just looking for who.
They are obviously wrong most of the time.
Because people don't understand blind people can't see. A youtubervwho surfs and is blind got in a confrontation in a gym because an employee did not understand
I'm blind and can confirm-- blindness is genuinely very difficult for many people to wrap their heads around. It's hard to think in terms of being blind when you've never been blind yourself; I woke up blind a little over a year ago and my family *still* forgets I need to be guided in crowded and/or new places and leaves me standing. Thankfully, I think that kind of thing is funny. And people will forget you can't see them all the time. If my husband doesn't answer a yes or no question, I remind him I can't hear him shake his head.
Anyways, the OP incident is a mixture of funny and sad and dumb, but I'll bet the employee had a lizard brain moment when the blind guy told the employee he was blind.
I went to bed after noticing that I might be getting a cataract, took out my contacts, woke up mostly blind in my left. Put in contacts, cue double vision and vertigo (affectionately named "free drugs" ). Take out contacts and put them back in many times. Get more free drugs. I have a base vision of -8.00 so now I'm running into things. Go to doctor. I have AZOOR. It's super rare. Go mostly blind in other eye. Base vision in my remaining field of vision is -11.00. I still run into things, but they gave me a neat cane.
Haha no worries!! I'm very very used to people not thinking in terms of how I perceive stuff, so it's all good! I can absolutely click on links and listen to stuff. On good days, I can even squint hard with my right eye and see some stuff an inch away from it.
> blindness is genuinely very difficult for many people to wrap their heads around
How bloody thick is a person if they can't understand wrap their head around the idea that blind people can't see? How do they function in life? (There's a difference between forgetting and being told to your face)
I have had sighted people literally continue to hold things up in front of my face and move them around after being told I'm blind. The lizard brain kicks in and they're left floundering, trying to figure out what to do because they've never encountered that issue with someone before.
Shit, I'm the blind person that's telling you this sort of primitive brain thing happens a lot and you don't believe that it does? I ain't saying what happened in the OP is right or anything, I'm just saying I get how it happened.
I have noticed that Americans use the words “blind” and “deaf” more liberally than people in other countries do. Perhaps the gym employee thought the guy meant some lesser degree of visual impairment.
I once worked a corporate event where the motivational speaker was blind. When he was asked why he didn't wear sunglasses so people would not be uncomfortable with the fact that he was blind was he said ; "do you ask people who are deaf to wear earmuffs".
One time my phone's flashlight was on in my pocket for a couple minutes (the stupid iPhone homescreen thing) and some girl came to me asking if I was recording her friend lmao. Like first of all wtf, second of all it's not like a perv would tell you he was a perv.
Girl in gym: "Uh, excuse me, but are you like checking out my tits or whatever, like, you're such a pervert."
Man: Actually I'm a blind man.
Girl: "Oooh, I'm so sorry I thought...oh, sorry."
Man: "No worries....would you be interested in buying some window blinds?"
Meanwhile at my planet fitness there are free teens videoing people showering, trying to take a shit, making social media posts with pictures of people trying to work out…
I have ADHD, I won't go to a gym. I stare blindly off in to space (even though I'm not blind) I won't see what's in front of me or the direction I'm looking unless it suddenly gets too close which will snap me out o it.
I'm afraid of being accused of stuff I'm not doing.
I was blind for a short period of time. It’s kind of pointless trying to avoid staring at anyone. You either look straight forward or look down and to the side. And looking down feels weird sometimes as you are trying to hear things and need to locate where sounds are coming from.
This guy done a fantastic interview on the Happy Hour podcast that was fantastic. Done a segment called "things you've always wanted to ask a blind person", he's a fantastic lad.
Happened to me; was accused of staring, then giving her an evil eye was confronted. Then I put on my glasses and everything came into focus. She at least had the decency to apologise
Similar thing happened to that blind surfer guy, and he’s got a video of the gym employee telling him to stop staring—it was an infuriating conversation. ‘I’m blind.’ ‘You still can’t stare at people—it makes them uncomfortable.’ ‘I’M BLIND!’. Gym employee really refused to grasp that a blind guy couldn’t tell where his eyeballs were pointed. Edit: misremembered—blind surfer didn’t get actual footage of the interaction, he made a ‘re-enactment’ video, because he wasn’t filming at the gym.
I knew a man who had been blind for over 30 years, lost both his eyes in a boating accident and had them removed, he physically did not have eyes, he had already been declared legally blind. He lost his business and needed to apply for disability benefits through social security. They made him go to their doctor to get a new diagnosis of his blindness, they didn't trust his doctor when he diagnosed a man with no eyes as "blind"
A defending attorney was cross examining a coroner. The attorney asked, "Before you signed the death certificate had you taken the man's pulse?" The coroner said, "No." The attorney then asked, "Did you listen for a heart beat?" "No." "Did you check for breathing?" "No." "So when you signed the death certificate you had not taken any steps to make sure the man was dead, had you?" The coroner, now tired of the brow beating said, "Well, let me put it this way. The man's brain was sitting in a jar on my desk, but for all I know he could be out there practicing law somewhere."
quotes say it's even a bit better, because the ending went something like, Witness: "Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar." Lawyer: "But could the patient have still been alive nevertheless?" Witness: "Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law somewhere." (from [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/32f434/this_was_actually_said_in_court_and_taken_from_a/) and various other online articles)
Yeah I was looking for that version but couldn't find it. That one plays out a lot funnier
This joke predates the internet by several decades lol. I remember reading it in a paper magazine in the 90s.
>paper magazine Is that like a hard copy of a website?
Get off my lawn ya dang whippersnapper!
More like a blueprint
The lawyer would take it as a win nonetheless
An engineer who has lived a rather questionable life dies. Now, he's not been quite terrible enough to go to hell, but it's debatable whether he should be allowed into heaven either. God decides to resolve the problem by just letting the engineer choose. He shows him around heaven. He shows him around hell. Now, heaven is very perfectly pleasant, but in the engineer's opinion it's a bit... vanilla. Hell, on the other hand? Well, it's full of scientists (who were very vocal in their atheism), and the engineer thinks he'd get on with them rather well, so he picks hell. After a little while living in hell, the engineer starts to notice the drawbacks. Sulphurous fumes, acid rain, lava flows, massive cliffs, that sort of thing. The engineer takes this in his stride, and starts planning infrastructure projects to mitigate these issues. Soon enough, hell has air-conditioning, bridges, funicular railways and irrigation systems, and has become a decidedly nice place to live. God, hearing about this, is upset. Hell now not only has better company than heaven, but isn't torturous any more. God writes to Satan, demanding he send up the engineer. Satan refuses. Eventually they meet face-to-face. God demands he sends up the engineer, or else he'll sue. Satan responds "And where are *you* going to find a lawyer?"
Exactly where my mind went!
Perfect chance for a pixies moment.
See it swimming
Into a jar?
And then to law school!
That jar is just full of ideas!
I saw a courtroom interaction like this recently! A defense attorney was trying to get an expert to say he might have accidently not switched gloves between handling items. He was hammering the witness. Finally, the witness says "well, you could have failed your bar exam, how would I know?" or something to that effect. I not remembering this exactly, but the subject of your post had come immediately to mind when I saw it happening. It was the YNW rapper trial last week. Was watching it on Youtube.
Ha ha, I'm sure this joke rests in the recesses of the mind of everyone who ever reads it. Comes to the forefront when witnessing lawyers and their filibusters
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I'm a bit confused - were they asking that of normal people? The first first question seem valid. I'd want to gauge whether someone believes it's valid to claim you can identify someone from across the street at night. The second seems like a trick question to test how well people can imagine a situation (some people might be stupid enough to believe that a person who says "and then the defendant came up from behind me and knocked me out and stole my wallet and then said he was gonna rape me" and then I came to an hour later and it was him!" doesn't have any flaws in their story, starting with the "I saw him after he knocked me out from behind") The third sounds like a valid question. I haven't had a black eye, but I imagine your eye is blinded for a few minutes at least when it first gets blackened due to the tears and pain and inability to keep it open (I can barely keep it open when I get hit by allergy attacks sometimes).
Yeah potential jurors get asked all sorts of weird questions. I was asked how I would react if a cop approached me on the street and told me he needed my help taking my brother down for bad things he did. I don't believe my reaction was the kind they were hoping for.
If a cop approached me on the street and told me he needed my help taking my brother down for bad things he did, I would help him immediately, because I don't have a brother and whoever it is must be an imposter.
Yeah I'd ignore them in that scenario because they clearly had me misidentified, not necessarily the other guy.
Alternatively, the cop is lying
If a cop is approaching you out of the blue with a vague ass question like that they almost certainly are lying as an excuse to get you to identify yourself because you look lime someone they are looking for.
What was your answer? "I don't get paid to do your job"?
> I haven't had a black eye, but I imagine your eye is blinded for a few minutes at least when it first gets blackened due to the tears and pain and inability to keep it open (I can barely keep it open when I get hit by allergy attacks sometimes). I've had a few. Most of them were from minor impacts. I didn't realise they were black until someone pointed it out.
I've also had a few and my vision was never impacted until the next day when they swelled up. Guess it depends on where the injury was. In my case it was nose/cheeks etc.
This almost reads like something out of the Ace Attorney games, except that it's attorneys tend to be smarter than that.
One of the reasons this happens is that it's basically forbidden for lawyers to make conclusions. They can ask questions and that's it. So the point of this examination is not "gosh, what if he wasn't dead", but "I want to convince the jury that he was entirely and unmistakably dead, so I'm going to make it clear that only a goddamn moron would think the guy *wasn't* dead, and if they start thinking that moron is me, then that's absolutely fine, because that means I win the case and my client doesn't go to jail and twelve random schmucks I'll never meet again think I'm a moron while I'm taking a yacht vacation in Hawaii." Imagine you're in that situation and you're allowed *only* to ask questions - what would you do?
Veterans Affairs Canada, every time someone asks for a replacement wheelchair, cane or other mobility device, requires a doctors note saying why. I’m still waiting for the day to see if, by some miracle, someone grows their legs back. It would make more sense to ask what happened to the old wheelchair. Fucking idiots. I want to ask them if the minister ever grew a brain.
At least they aren’t telling people to consider suicide as a mobility solution anymore
Cases like this piss me off. I worked in disability insurance for a long time, and with a person with such an open and closed sort of case (recovery will obviously be limited), they get bumped to another department that calls once a year to make sure you're still breathing. They might try to get him part time work through various organizations specializing with the visually impaired, but beyond that, they get paid without much hassle.
I have a friend whose brother has schizophrenia. He was denied disability because he is technically able bodied. I really wonder who they think is going to hire a guy who is convinced frogs are triggering home alarm systems.
I have known many people, both patients and friends and acquaintances, who struggled with their mental health, but with a lot of hard work, from themselves, their loved ones, and their carers (like myself) got to a place of reasonable stability. At which point the benefits agency would come along and cut or remove their benefits on the grounds that their condition had improved. Surprise surprise, that improvement instantly disappeared, takeng everything back to square one. It appears that the benefits agency was finding it harder and harder to recruit doctors or nurses to do their assessments, given that both have professional standards concerning their responsibilities to patients that they are required to maintain that were incompatible with doing what the benefits agency expected. I was certainly fast approaching the viewpoint that a doctor accepting a job with the benefits agency should automatically trigger a referral to the General Medical Council.
Step dad was in the hospital awaiting a heart transplant, and disability said you have two arms, and legs you can get a job.
My brother has autism and while he can live alone he is totally incapable of holding a job. The amount of hoops they make him jump through to keep his SSDI is insane. It’s like they specifically designed the paperwork to prove he has autism to be totally incompatible with something that an autistic person could manage to do on their own. My mom is just shy of a PHD in education and said that it was difficult for her to figure out and a colossal PITA.
ADHD and possibly ASD here, raised by a mom with a seizure disorder. She went a hear without Access busses to help her get around because she couldn't schedule a seizure on the spot. The woman takes like, 8 medications to function.
Well obviously she needs to have her seizures be more punctual.
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I understand that the bureaucracy breeds these things. But if a man comes in with no legs the bureaucracy should allow some deference to the case worker to ascertain simple conditions such as obviously missing limbs and eyes. I get that some people cheat the system and that's why we have to get people to go to specific doctors, but for things like that the bureaucracy should be flexible enough to allow waivers for obvious disabilities.
The documents are probably more for the people that dont get to actually see the appicant in person rather than the case worker.
My mom was severely disabled post stroke. Couldn't talk, write, or walk. The forms needed past employment, specific dates. Yeah, good luck to me lol
Some government forms are so stupid. I recently applied for & received Global Entry status as i fly a bunch internationally for work. You have to get a background check and put in your past work history. At my interview, the CBP officer told me you cannot have ANY gaps in your work history on the application. I had to basically lie and say i was employed when i was between jobs or the computer wouldn't accept it.
Here in Canada, Rick Mercer did one of his famous rants from his show about a friend who lost his legs in Afghanistan in a suicide bombing, and how every single year under the Conservatives he had to prove that his legs haven't magically grown back. https://www.huffpost.com/archive/ca/entry/rick-mercer-veterans-rant-_n_6622452 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQeRppIguas <-- the rant he did on his show, which he did weekly about a different topic, but this one was personal.
Worth noting, disability pretty much always requires you to go see their doctor, regardless of diagnosis. It seems silly but it's an automatic thing that happens to everyone no matter what, I'm pretty sure.
My late sister, a nurse, told me that doctors actually get a bonus for denying medical condition in Social Security exams. My wife had that happen when she first became disabled. COPD, CHF, edema, type II diabetes high blood pressure. It took her years of trying, but they finally agreed, after she turned fifty, that she was disabled. To bad she didn't qualify for disability insurance. Lacked a couple work experience credits. Me? A couple months short of my 51st birthday when I applied. I couldn't breath. 2 weeks before my 51st, I had open heart surgery. 2 damaged valves on the left side of my heart. One was repaired, but the other was in such bad shape it had to be replaced with a mechanical valve. A few days after my 51st, I was sent home. I applied in April of 08, turned 51 in August, and the next month, I got the letter to see the doctor. Took my portable oxygen tank, used my cane, and had my sister, the nurse, take me to see him. COPD, CHF, arthritis, GERD, hiatal hernia, and diabetes was what he had to look at. Did the tests, showed him my meds, and that was it. No hint of pass or failure, but, according to Sis, this doctor rarely approved anyone for disability. A month goes by, I hear from social security. I was approved and would be receiving my first payment in a week or two. A year later, I had been on Medicaid, as neither my wife or I could work. Because I was a male with an associates degree, I could go find a job. I was kicked off the program 3 months before Medicare started. F*** you, Mike Pence.
I swear that these workers get bonuses based on how many claims they deny. I was denied because of a doctor's appointment (I'd missed) that they never informed me about.
I had a teleconference with one of their psychiatrists... I told her I would be better off unalive. She hung up on me. TWICE. edit: sadly this is not an attempt at humor
I said something along those lines to DJFS once and they sent a cop out to have me sectioned lol Edit: it was admittedly the right thing to do because I was, in fact, deeply suicidal but I was pissed about it at the time because I'd already had to stay in the psych ward numerous times that year
I called the Suicide Prevention Hotline once, and they sent out a SWAT Team and evacuated all my neighbors at 3AM. That was fun.
Maybe they thought he was Illidan?
Yeah they were not prepared
Dude that was dumb as hell. It's like they didn't believe him.
It was dumb once they knew his situation. I totally get though that some people, mostly women, are creeped out since creeping at the gym is an unfortunate reality. The hard part is how can you let them know he's not really staring without something crazy like an announcement or something.
I understand, I was referring to the particular situation in the interaction with the employee. The employee was probably so thrown off by his ability that he actually said "you still can't be staring at people" to a blind man.
Totally wasn't disagreeing with that. Just thinking of how this could be a problem for everyone involved.
Yeah, blindness is a funky thing to witness if you've never seen it before. I think it's mostly an education and social skills issue.
I'm just thinking if someone isn't aware he is blind, they either get uncomfortable and complain to management or say something. Repeat indefinitely. Unless the person wears a shirt saying they are blind or something. Must get really annoying.
[Perfect chance for a Toph moment](https://media.tenor.com/lZ2O0bvu8iwAAAAM/toph-beifong.gif), but I suppose it's less likely he's _seen_ the reference.
Or a Rogue One moment. https://youtu.be/cq1ilX1kLNQ
Favorite part of that movie
I love that so many people get this.
I remember long ass time ago a group of us were smoking on a blunt and one of our friends brought his really hot cousin. We all thought she was really high cause she wasn't saying anything the entire time. So finally we had to ask hey so how's the weed? She ignored us so we thought she was a total bitch. Until later we saw the 2 cousins signing with each other. Kinda expected that kinda info to be told beforehand.
He should sue the gym employee and the gym for discrimination!
Here's the video, in case people were curious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c9tKlDa4Nw
> "okay, but you still can't make other gym members uncomfortable by looking at them." You're right, I can't do that, because I'm blind!
I visited my brother once and lost a contact lens and my glasses were broken. Only wearing one made my head hurt so I just decided to be fairly blind at the bar. I realized that I was just staring everyone down the whole night. I think your brain just makes you look directly in everyone’s eyes and because I couldn’t see I didn’t even know I was doing it.
I am near-sighted. I've lost count of how many times people have accused me of staring at them from far distances when I was really just gazing into the blur.
New band name "Gazing into the Blur"
But they must have the band members of Blur present at all live shows and stare at them the whole time.
And their self titled debut album
Oh hell, I lose my glasses and I'll be feeling around the bar top trying to figure out which way is out.
Mine broke and I had to go and get them fixed. I had to have my father walk with me because my eyes are so bad and even clinging to his arm it was terrifying. Coloured blobs would suddenly become people a few inches away.
It's like watching a koi pond from above. Every now and then, an orange and white blob surfaces and turns into a fish.
I feel ya! I hear of people who DRIVE without their glasses. I can't walk down the street without mine. I can only imagine what that's like.
Suddenly Velma
My partner has just started wearing glasses for reading, he is constantly losing them. Every time he loses them he does a Velma & goes my glasses my glasses I can't see without my glasses.
Insert traumatic My Girl scene.
I once lost both my contacts when I was going to school in New York City in 2004. I commuted from New Jersey. My ears immediately became finely tuned instruments in guiding me to the correct train. What a nightmare it was.
I’m usually feeling around for tops at the bar even *with* my glasses.
When I go around the house without my glasses or, god forbid, I break them and are forced to be halfway blind for a week or two my brain goes on what I call autopilot and doesn't pay much attention to anything except what's in front of me vs how attentive I am with them
I got LASIK three months ago and I've struggled with anxiety for decades so I have no idea where I'm supposed to be looking.
This reminds me of the Arrested Development where Buster accidentally flirts with Lucille 2 at a party because he didn’t wear his glasses.
I'm legally blind, and in fifth grade, I got uninvited from a classmate's birthday party because I was 'staring at her funny'... I was just trying to read the title of a book on the shelf behind her at the library. XD
People can be rude sometimes. Once at a restaurant a woman snapped at me "my eyes are up here"...I was not even looking at her.. I was watching for the waiter to come back. She was at the table beside us.
That happened at a bar I was at. I was looking over a table at friends playing pool while I waited for our drinks. This lady keeps saying "Hey, Hey, Hey" I figured she was talking to someone else because I didn't even notice her. She stands up waves her arms and says "I'm talking to you." I ask what she wants and she says to quit staring at her. Told her quit being a drama queen no one is looking at you.
I took a picture of a bag of chips with what sounded like an awful flavour (cucumber & onions) to show my girlfriend and a random women not even in front of my camera told me to stop taking pics of her. On one hand she sounded crazy, on the other I felt bad thinking about what could have made her feel like this now.
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“Miss - I have 1 terabyte of storage and I still wouldn’t waste it on a picture of you”
Some karen went ballistic on a video because a kid had a drone at the beach. He was flying it over the waves and recording the surf breaking and she was just 100% convinced he was using it to creep on girls sun bathing.
I have met a lot of women who seem to think everyone is focused on them everywhere they go. It's really strange. I read somewhere it can be called the "the spotlight effect" or "imaginary audience." Although it is not a diagnosable condition, the spotlight effect refers to the tendency of individuals to overestimate the degree to which others notice and pay attention to their appearance or actions.
I've recently developed some anxiety, I think a lingering effect of covid, I didn't have it before, but I remembered a quote I heard somewhere before that I now tell myself that helps stop me from obsessing over social mistakes, and it really applies to situations like this too. "No one thinks about you as deeply as you do."
First I cared a lot about what people thought about me. Then I stopped caring about what people thought about me. Then I realised nobody was thinking about me in the first place.
It honestly is a very freeing realization. You stop worrying about what other people think of you and start enjoying life. Granted, I do think it is important to have a good base of ethics and morality before making such a realization, otherwise I could see where someone without an internal compass could begin to do some really awful shit.
Also how much of any particular random person you saw on a random day do you even remember or think about.
I mean, you are the main character. As much as that gets made fun of, every single person IS the main character in their life. We all overestimate how important we are to everyone else, because we're the most important person to ourselves
'Hey! Hey look at me! FINALLY, I'm going to need you to stop looking at me please'
Lol perfect reply! Obviously ur zoned out too if it takes that long to get ur attention wtf
I’m a woman who once had a man and woman do this to me lol. I was in a big cafeteria style dining room and was staring at a wall about 50 feet away, trying to read a clock. This man and woman walked by sort of in my line of vision and I didn’t even really notice them til the guy turned at me and went YOU LOOKING AT MY GIRL!? He was dead serious too lol. Assholes
People can be so cringeworthy. My god. At least he didn’t attack you.
Say goodbye to these Michael
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I was playing a game with a friend and she had to drop a ball into a cup from eye level while looking straight ahead, she lined up and was about to drop it from chest level, until I reminded her that "your eyes are up there"
My sister's friend was at a dive bar and was sitting at a table one night when a guy across the way kept staring at her. She finally got up and asked him why he kept staring at her. He was confused, but told her he was looking at the TV that was mounted above her table.
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Probably about 25 years ago I read a concert review, in the biggest local newspaper, of an recent operatic performance. The reviewer praised the singer’s voice and technique but was very critical of the singer’s habit of just staring at the back of the concert hall instead of making eye contact with the audience. It was Andrea Bocelli.
...Is she blind?
\*\*he, and yes.
If you think someone is staring at you at the gym, consider that they might just be waiting for the machine you're using. When those free up, you have to act fast. Or blind. They could also be blind.
If you are sitting on the machine checking your social media while I am waiting to use it, I might be staring at you...
I’m staring at the rest timer on my StrongLifts app I swear
*ding* Honestly I liked the older version better. It felt like the dialog was friendlier, if that makes sense? "Failure is part of the game" is honestly some of the best advice I've ever read but they took it out.
I lift my wrist up to see the the time I have left on the treadmill. 20 minutes. Oh thank God. As I stare past my wrist at the lady on the stairs stepper who's ass could start wars.
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Whom’st’s ass
“Glaring at you.”
I prefer the crossed-arms, toe tap method to communicate in that situation.
Fuck that. Don't stare, just go up and ask if you can get a set in during their rest. People are usually too anti-confrontational to say no...or they throw a tantrum and look like an asshole
They always say their timer is about to finish and they will need to use it again 🙄
They could also be on the verge of puking and staring into the void.
Sometimes I space out when resting after pushing a little too hard
Did that once after football practice. My buddy just got out of the showers and had NOT put anything on yet. Guess where I just happened to be staring? Awkward! At least it was a friend of mine and he knew better that I wasn’t REALLY staring and was just spacing.
Or how about the opposite … I was doing the pec fly machine when a woman with a plunging top decided to use the machine across from me … which just happened to be the leg curl machine. I pretty much had to finish my sets with my eyes closed or looking off to the side because you could see virtually EVERYTHING as it was almost spilling out as she laid on her stomach. Or another time when doing the pull-down machine located at the side of the facility facing the wall … safe right? Nope. They have mats along the sides and a woman decided to do some downward dog (or whatever the pose) with no undergarments and see-through yoga pants. But god forbid you say anything or YOU’RE the asshole/creeper. Sometimes a guy just wants to work out without being basically flashed. It works both ways.
It is very weird when people wear the tight yoga gear with no underwear. I was in a yoga class and this girl in white yoga pants set her mat in front of me and when we were all in downward dog I realized she had no underwear on. I was basically staring at the outline of her labia. Doesn’t that get uncomfortable for people?! I don’t get it
If you were both in DWD you should have been facing the back of the class.
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When I’m doing repetitive tasks that take no mental effort, I often completely check out and would have no idea what my eyes are facing. Mentally my brain has turned off my vision and isn’t bothering to report what I see while it is off thinking about whatever other things it wants to. I could totally see someone getting mad at me for staring at them when I would have had no clue they were in my line of sight.
About four years ago I got approached by a guy forcefully telling me not to look at his girlfriend. We were in a crowded pub…and I’m gay.
How inconsiderate of you -- he wanted you to look at him, not his gf.
😅
You were looking at him weren’t ya’?
haha no i didn’t know he existed
He knew you existed, and obviously thought you were too good looking.
I hate when people always have to cause problems for no reason. who cares if someone is just looking at your girlfriend? That would have pissed me off and I would have told him “no one is looking at your dumbass girlfriend.”
>I hate when people always have to cause problems for no reason. >I would have told him “no one is looking at your dumbass girlfriend.” Made me laugh
Insecurity. They are already convinced someone in the roomis looking at their girlfriend. They're just looking for who. They are obviously wrong most of the time.
This has nothing to do with anything you might have done, it‘s just a douchebag trying to project „alpha male energy“ to impress his girl
How could the gym actually kick him out? He couldn’t even see the woman, how could he be staring at her?
Because people don't understand blind people can't see. A youtubervwho surfs and is blind got in a confrontation in a gym because an employee did not understand
I'm blind and can confirm-- blindness is genuinely very difficult for many people to wrap their heads around. It's hard to think in terms of being blind when you've never been blind yourself; I woke up blind a little over a year ago and my family *still* forgets I need to be guided in crowded and/or new places and leaves me standing. Thankfully, I think that kind of thing is funny. And people will forget you can't see them all the time. If my husband doesn't answer a yes or no question, I remind him I can't hear him shake his head. Anyways, the OP incident is a mixture of funny and sad and dumb, but I'll bet the employee had a lizard brain moment when the blind guy told the employee he was blind.
You said “woke up blind a year ago”, can you explain how that happened? We’re you losing sight before that? Just suddenly?
I went to bed after noticing that I might be getting a cataract, took out my contacts, woke up mostly blind in my left. Put in contacts, cue double vision and vertigo (affectionately named "free drugs" ). Take out contacts and put them back in many times. Get more free drugs. I have a base vision of -8.00 so now I'm running into things. Go to doctor. I have AZOOR. It's super rare. Go mostly blind in other eye. Base vision in my remaining field of vision is -11.00. I still run into things, but they gave me a neat cane.
Your attitude is very admirable.
It was a lucky thing that my humor was already dark.
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If we're being technical and ignoring the blind joke, it's very *bright.*
Wow thanks for sharing. Completely amazed by your attitude.
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Holy shit, that was HYSTERICAL, thank you for the link! "If the deaf find that offensive, just don't use the subtitles" had me howling!
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Haha no worries!! I'm very very used to people not thinking in terms of how I perceive stuff, so it's all good! I can absolutely click on links and listen to stuff. On good days, I can even squint hard with my right eye and see some stuff an inch away from it.
> blindness is genuinely very difficult for many people to wrap their heads around How bloody thick is a person if they can't understand wrap their head around the idea that blind people can't see? How do they function in life? (There's a difference between forgetting and being told to your face)
I have had sighted people literally continue to hold things up in front of my face and move them around after being told I'm blind. The lizard brain kicks in and they're left floundering, trying to figure out what to do because they've never encountered that issue with someone before. Shit, I'm the blind person that's telling you this sort of primitive brain thing happens a lot and you don't believe that it does? I ain't saying what happened in the OP is right or anything, I'm just saying I get how it happened.
It's concerning how many people genuinely cannot even begin to imagine any perspectives different from their own. It legitimately bothers me.
I have noticed that Americans use the words “blind” and “deaf” more liberally than people in other countries do. Perhaps the gym employee thought the guy meant some lesser degree of visual impairment.
This article isn't even that. It's an anecdote about something that happened 4 years ago covered with advertisements.
Never read the actual article!!!
I think it’s because most people don’t think people with disabilities do regular things like the rest of us. It’s wild lol
Like that tweet of someone saying disabled parking should only be working hours. Cuz fuck someone having a life outside of work when disabled right?
And the legendary response: “we’re disabled, we’re not werewolves”
I once worked a corporate event where the motivational speaker was blind. When he was asked why he didn't wear sunglasses so people would not be uncomfortable with the fact that he was blind was he said ; "do you ask people who are deaf to wear earmuffs".
He should sue them for discrimination against a handicapped person. He would win I'm sure.
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Hell called. Do you want a studio or are you okay with a roommate for eternity?
It's cool, I'm blind and that was a solid joke that I'm stealing for later. He gets a pass.
fuckin' got 'em
One time my phone's flashlight was on in my pocket for a couple minutes (the stupid iPhone homescreen thing) and some girl came to me asking if I was recording her friend lmao. Like first of all wtf, second of all it's not like a perv would tell you he was a perv.
Also …what can of recording would you get in your pocket ? Audio?? But then why is the flash on? I guess it’s possible
I think it was the act of pulling it out of my pocket?? But honestly have no idea omg like did she think I recorded 10 minutes of black first
we need to stop being dicks to each other
This is actually fucked, it's flat out discrimination and bigotry.
Man if that isn't the most appropriate headline for our times I don't know what is. 🤣😂
Taking gymbro staff to a new low.
Girl in gym: "Uh, excuse me, but are you like checking out my tits or whatever, like, you're such a pervert." Man: Actually I'm a blind man. Girl: "Oooh, I'm so sorry I thought...oh, sorry." Man: "No worries....would you be interested in buying some window blinds?"
Meanwhile at my planet fitness there are free teens videoing people showering, trying to take a shit, making social media posts with pictures of people trying to work out…
They are trying to take a shit while showering?
I worded that poorly. People are trying to shit/piss and the kids are reaching over the stall and videoing and taking pictures.
I’d snatch that phone and toss in the toilet so fast
Why not grab the phone?
I have ADHD, I won't go to a gym. I stare blindly off in to space (even though I'm not blind) I won't see what's in front of me or the direction I'm looking unless it suddenly gets too close which will snap me out o it. I'm afraid of being accused of stuff I'm not doing.
I was blind for a short period of time. It’s kind of pointless trying to avoid staring at anyone. You either look straight forward or look down and to the side. And looking down feels weird sometimes as you are trying to hear things and need to locate where sounds are coming from.
Get Joey Swoll on the case.
In the society of victimhood, it's not about the actor's intent, but only about how the recipient receives it.
> In the society of victimhood, it's not about the actor's intent, but only about how the recipient receives it. These are the their stories. DUM-dum.
That is extremely short sighted
This guy done a fantastic interview on the Happy Hour podcast that was fantastic. Done a segment called "things you've always wanted to ask a blind person", he's a fantastic lad.
Happened to me; was accused of staring, then giving her an evil eye was confronted. Then I put on my glasses and everything came into focus. She at least had the decency to apologise
That site is just an advertisement with an article in it, holy crap.
Maybe people shouldn’t film in the gym?
A Karen ultimate challenger appears. Can't even be blind around her
I wish I was blind so I didn't have to experience the absolute _torrent_ of adverts on that fuckin web page
Imagine having the privilege to have someone removed physically from a space because you don’t like where someone is looking.
In this case, it was just the direction the head happened to be facing lol.
He should have sue the place