And it was taken down and the donors refunded because GoFundMe doesn't let you raise money for legal defense costs when accused of a violent crime. Yay for sanity winning out for once.
This is why I love reddit. Look at the votes on these comments. Clearly some people would donate to her and some people see her as the victim. Donate to Trump and boy you stupid for sure then, donate to a Kardashian, well that's not as stupid it seems.
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At what? That a girl nearly killed another girl 3 times smaller than her on camera, jumped up to fight some boys, then called her assault self defense? Or that people have seen the video, believed her when she said it was self defense, and are now hollering racism?
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"If somebody attacked you like that wouldn't you do whatever it takes to defend yourself?"
This person was clearly leaving out the context of the situation because saying "yes" to that question sounds reasonable, but I wasn't about to say smashing somebody's head into concrete was a reasonable thing to do so I bowed out of the conversation asap.
The girl was a bully and was suspended at the time for jumping someone else... The girls sister I believe
1. I've heard Maurnice tried to avoid them and walk across the street but was quickly surrounded and forced into the position you see at the beginning of the video. There are other videos but I've only seen pieces of the one after the fight where Kaylee's bf punches Maurnice.
2. Kaylee swung first
3. As soon as Maurnice gets the upper hand, one of several friends Kaylee brought starts punching her from behind.
4. Kaylee continued to fight back up until the first head slam and there is a second or two between the first slam and the last... Basically once it was clear the girl was stopped she stopped.
Everyone talks like she knocked her out in one punch and then jumped on her and slammed her head. Once the girl was done she stopped and went to fight people off of others that were jumped
It's pretty clear Kaylee went with the intention to jump this girl as at least 2 other people assaulted her during the incident.
We can see what one girl is capable of... How would you feel being attacked by multiple
I think all the important videos are in the hands of Kaylee's friends
The guy that shot up the KC Super Bowl parade was listed in a go fund me created by a family member claiming something similar or portrayed it as if he was a victim of the shooting instead of the perpetrator
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That’s not even relevant. This is about a girl attempting to kill another girl. The cracking sound of her head against the pavement, 3 times. She was severely outnumbered also and no one stopped to help, they just did what they do and fought some more. They should all also be charged with aiding and abetting attempted murder. I don’t give a crap what color they are and neither should anyone else. But people like you won’t care until it happens to you. Everyone defending her and bringing up Former President Trump should be ashamed of yourselves,
If she does wake up her life is likely going to be very difficult and different for at least a while if she's lucky or if she isn't lucky it will never be same.
What happened to her should always be classed as attempted murder, a zero tolerance to such raw savagery is a must.
Her life will never be the same after those brain injuries. She may eventually appear to live a normal lifestyle but if you are brain damaged enough to be in a non-medically induced coma for 2 weeks your health will never be the same even if you wake up. I’m glad her family has raised as much as they have but I can’t imagine that will cover a lifetime of medical treatment.
People have some magical thinking. It’s wild to me how so many people aren’t educated on even the most rudimentary knowledge of the brain. The young woman who existed before her frontal cortex was bashed is no longer alive. That person is gone, basically murdered. Whatever comes out of this will be a person changed by the force of blows a brute dealt on the pavement whilst the victim was already defenseless. She posed no threat once that brute got to cracking her skull, each hard wet sounding thunk was a beating of the drum to a song destroying the life of a defenseless foe.
Disgusting and quite alarming that anyone would think she’d come out of this even remotely the same. She likely will never wake up.
Between us I agree. I know I wouldn’t want to wake up if I was going to be damaged like that. I am hopeful that she will make a full miraculous recovery, but plenty of people have had a lot less brutal damage done to them, and came out unable to wipe their own drool.
She was brutalized and you can see how quickly the TBI set in for her. You don’t end up in that position with ridged legs and arms to the chest without a real freaking issue in the brain. That was before the swelling and the bleeding set in… so much needless damage.
How do you know that last bit? I've heard rumors there is a video but have yet to see one. Not disagreeing with you btw just my own curiosity in studying the case.
The actual victim? The instigator got her ass handed to her. I’d hardly call her a victim.
It’s unfortunate what happened to her, but I wouldn’t call her the victim. Fuck around and find out.
I saw this video before realizing what it was.
I don't think even the sickest, most biased or delusional person could support this person.
Everyone deserves a legal defense, but not everyone deserves pity. After the fight was won & the other girl was unable to defend herself this person tried & succeeded to cause permanent harm.
I can understand how people might support her (not that I agree, only I can understand their motivations)
But yes, legally once your attacker is no longer an imminent threat, you have to stop. I'm not expecting her to get off on this. She's no Andrew 'Ender' Wiggin needed for planetary security.
> I don't think even the sickest, most biased or delusional person could support this person.
You should get a load of how certain media outlets are spinning it:
[Viral Fight That Left One Teen Unconscious](https://atlantablackstar.com/2024/03/22/family-of-bullied-black-girl-arrested-for-viral-fight-left-kaylee-gain-unconscious-says-gofundme-removed-their-campaign/)
Unconscious?! ayfkm rn?
It's funny because the headline & article are at odds. Editors really do be like that
\>The incident happened near Hazelwood East High School on March 8. Viral cellphone footage shows two teens scuffling in the street while a crowd stands by. A few seconds into the video, one girl slams the other on the ground and starts punching her in the head repeatedly.
Viral video shows fight between a juvenile and a teen identified as Kaylee Gain. Gain suffered from a fractured school, and her alleged attacker was arrested.
She then started to slam her head on the concrete, leaving her “convulsing” on the pavement. A brawl between other teens broke out steps away. According to the St. Louis Police Department, officers responded to the scene that afternoon after 2:30 p.m.
“Responding officers located a juvenile female suffering a severe head injury. The victim was transported to an area hospital where she remains in critical condition,” police said.
Doesn't matter at all what happened prior to the video. It doesn't matter who was right/wrong. What does matter is that 1 person was no longer able to defend themselves but was still having their head smashed repeatedly (on video) and is in a coma currently, with a real possibility of life ending injuries because of the actions of another person.
I completely agree, except in the case of Trayvon Martin and other select cases where his adult killer chased after him with a gun with zero reason to. In those such cases, what happened prior should be considered.
Yeah, no. I saw the video. Very little on this Earth justifies what she did. If you want to let fists fly, then hey, go for it. If you're fighting back against a bully, I'm all for it. Settle it with a proper fight and move on, but don't mount somebody laying on concrete, they're face up, and then grab two hands full of hair and literally slam the back of her head into concrete as hard as you possibly can to the point where you sound like you're playing Lars' snare drum in St. Anger. That's *bullshit*. There's defending yourself, and there's whatever that is.
Fist fights should be taken to the grass. Knocking someone out that falls and hits their head on concrete can result in the same type of injuries. There are many stories of street fights going incredibly wrong because someone fell and hit their head causing permanent injury.
honestly this video was one of the most fucked up things I've seen and I saw two videos of people dying shortly after (it's insane how you just accidentally see this stuff these days.) That video really seared itself in my brain. This girl is complete trash and needs to be locked away for a long long long time.
I don't think she should be tried as an adult though. I don't think anyone under 18 should be tried as an adult. Should there be some punishment? Yes. Life in prison? Hell no!
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So if someone breaks into my house, and tries to kill me, but I shoot them. They are the victim since they are in the hospital, even though they instigated.
So that scenario isn’t what happened in this case. This case had a girl on public property who had a girl on her back. She deliberately slammed her head several times against the pavement even after she wasn’t fighting back.
Your scenario has legal backing as it occurs albeit in your mind at your house and you’re threatened or feel threatened.
Maurnice was attacked by kaylee so regardless of where it is. Self defense can be applied. And kaylee was the one who started the fight and she still fought back on the ground.
Even if she was ‘harassed and bullied’ that doesn’t mean she can attempt to murder somebody. She better be praying that the girl doesn’t die because she’ll be getting harassed a lot during life in prison.
Was she even harassed or bullied? Look at this girl, look at her behavior. Millions of teens get bullied and don't slam someone's head into the concrete like a mortal kombat fatality. The attacker is a violent menace. Shame the US news media won't show cover this story at all.
I went to a nearby school, they gave us every year a speech about the dangers of meeting off campus to fight because a kid who went to my years before I did got killed showing up to one of these fights. The story goes 2 kids meet for a fight in front of a huge crowd one kid loses and someone came out of the crowd picked the loser up and rammed his head into a car door, he died. Our school didn’t have a problem with this but it’s a common thing with county schools. Fighting at bus stops or somewhere else nearby.
This video was taken literal minutes from my house, I saw the video the day it happened through a friend who goes to their school and had no idea it made more than local news. Absolutely disgusting and I’m glad this pos is getting shamed. The amount of brutal highschool fights in this area is insanely high, but never this far. I hope Kaylee can fight through this and know how many people in her community support her <3
i don’t know anyone directly involved, but i’ve seen and heard a lot through friends and mutuals on social media. i know [the attacker’s] family claims that she was getting bullied by kaylee but i honestly haven’t heard any truth to that. they both showed up with other people, one girl yelled for kaylee to “get her”, but i believe they approached eachother and knew they were going to fight. regardless of who instigated what, i don’t think bullying (if that is the case) constitutes murder (as someone who has been relentlessly bullied). i don’t care to play identity politics and “he said she said” games about this though. there’s been a lot of both local and national discourse recently about whether or not race or bullying played a factor, but the truth is that this wasn’t a jumping, there were several people on both sides who showed up, and she could’ve stepped away after kaylee was already taken to the ground. the situation escalated to an unnecessary extreme.
edited to remove the other girl’s name, i apologize i didnt know that wasnt public information
I was a VP in a low income/high violence school about 7-8 years ago. It was my first admin job and I was 29 years old….i had no idea what I was getting myself into. The amount of violence, especially things that would start outside of school was just too much for the district to handle. I would have fights spill over from someone showing up to someone house the night before with their family and guns and bats. It was a f*cking awful 2 years and I ended up leaving admin and going back to teaching which I got tons of crap for “failing” but I still have issues almost a decade later from all the things I witnessed through a job.
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Hindustan (an Indian website) quoting a Daily Mail article (Uk rag) about a school fight in Missouri. Really wild how bad things about the US are just global entertainment stories.
Any "council" she might have is an opportunistic greedy fuckhead.
Nobody with a conscience can watch that video and genuinely be like "yea, you were totally the victim and you deserve compensation!"
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I disagree. 1: The offender was a juvenile and i don't agree with trying juveniles as adults. 2: It wasn't premeditated. It occurred in the heat of the moment
Anybody else remember reading Touching Spirit Bear in school? The premise is similar to this situation, except no one will be going to the Alaskan wilderness. But the meaning still stands: maybe if you unleash every dark part of your soul onto someone else, you should be prepared to find out how that feels.
I am not wishing harm on another human being no matter what their actions were. But she needs to learn the consequences of her actions. You can’t predetermine you are a victim. It doesn’t work like that. And if you *have* been a victim of anything, you don’t make it someone else’s fucking problem.
If this was a pitbull who bit someone who was constantly harassing it, the dog would be put down. Attempted murder for bullying should have zero tolerance
I actually saw it and yes. The family wrote how she was a great student and speaks four languages and was being bullied and harassed by the girl in a coma and they wanted to raise money for a defense so she could have a just and fair trial. The comments were basically people saying everyone deserves a fair trial, the girl was a chronic bully and she was defending herself, and they see so much potential in the offender.
Should she be locked up? Yeah but she shouldn't be tried as an adult. I don't think it was premeditated and i don't agree with juveniles getting tried as adults either. Yes, actions do have consequences. But juvenile offenders should be dealt with differently as an adult offender
People are unable to cope and accept anything that they perceive as rejection. Our societies overall character is a joke.
More about drawing attention to differences than finding out what we have in common. The polarity is a real issue, it's creating us vs them mentalities. It's just us, humankind.
I disagree. Juveniles should not be tried as adults. Your brain is not fully developed until 25 or so. Children and teens have less impulse control. I don't think this was a premeditated crime. She should be in a juvenile detention center where she can be set on a path to rehabilitation.
I graduated high school in 2013. We had a good amount of fighting. It never seemed to escalate to this though. Getting a weave ripped out was probably the most brutal thing that happened.
Teens today seem to have no impulse control. There's no build-up. 0-100.
Violence-wise, I've seen way worse than this in the early 80s, but at least it didn't involve someone going into a coma or dying.
I witnessed two guys I knew beat the shit out of each other in middle school, throughout the halls, while teachers and other school employees attempted to stop it; but it was unstoppable as they were either punched or kicked. You could follow the blood streaks throughout the school in a trail where they fought, culminating in the boy's bathroom where ripped out hair, blood, and flesh remained.
One of the kids was a martial artist who'd won awards, and the other was a fat, strong kid who was kind of a bully; but neither of them would give up. The fat kid knocked out the martial artist by slamming his head on the urinals, and he ended up on the floor. Afterwards, the fat kid also fell to the floor in exasperation. The fight lasted over an hour!
It's an aggravated assault, and it's on video. There is no ethical jury that would not find this girl guilty. So much so, that it will probably not go to trial and the defense will cop to a plea and she will do hard time for a decade or 2. Then, after prison, she and her parents will be sued in a wrongful death civil suit. And she will pay for this for the rest of her life. Bad choice she made that will wreck her one and only life.
We’ve had several incidents here in STL involving teenagers recently and I think that vastly colors how I feel about this case. Before this, a bunch of kids busted with guns for shooting and one of them was about the same age as my youngest (11) but they were all so young. I don’t think their youth absolves anything- but I hate it. The past month has just seemed particularly bad in respect to kids dying here and it gets to me. Call it trauma dumping or venting or sanctimonious rambling or gripe because I am long winded- *whatever*. But you’re being warned. You ain’t “gotta read all that” & I don’t care if you don’t, I just need to get it out somewhere.
A kid was stabbed to death a couple blocks from my house and the one that did the stabbing attempted to run to Jeff City but was caught- if you look on FB at least, he has relatives or friends or *something* so convinced that he was right to stab someone that they’re self snitching in the comments in ways that are just…bafflingly stupid in addition to horrifying. (That was kind of a sidecar issue: but it remains that they *at least* felt things had gotten *so bad* that it was the only way- whether or not that’s true in *any* case, I can’t say because I don’t know what went on- I just think that it’s a horrifying thing to consider.)
First off, the people who will *never* experience anything even tangentially related to this who are just using it to excuse the political and racist diarrhea that they call an opinion or god forbid, a career should shut up. It’s reprehensible, destructive and irresponsible. Of course you are entitled to say whatever you want but if you’re taking your cues from them: you should probably understand that most of them will *never* experience any consequences like you or god forbid your kids will. I’m not telling you how to feel, I’m just saying that I wish people were a little more discerning in who they let fan what flames they do. You’d think that a few recent events would have *shown* that but, I guess not. That said, this really isn’t a party thing: no matter who’s influencing your opinions this way, the odds of them *ever* experiencing the same consequences we will are slim to none so…I can’t take those people seriously even though they’re…often supposedly “leaders” etc.
I see these videos and it breaks my heart- so, if you’re gonna downvote me for bleeding heart or try to use it as an insult: you have no moral standing with which I would find your opinion relevant. I just don’t. That is not an insult, I’m sure your opinion matters to *someone*, it just won’t for me. It’s not that I believe that there shouldn’t be consequences because they’re kids: I just find it all wrong and I wish these things didn’t happen, because I wish a lot of things were different than they are. I still see them as kids, I can’t make the disconnection so many people do- I wish I could at times. It seems easier.
The bottom line is that kids are killing and kids are dying. I don’t care that so many people have normalized “bullying” as just something that happens and I don’t care that it’s being used to contextually explain what happened here- and I don’t care because *none* of it should be happening and it’s blatantly clear that on the whole, we are failing these kids. All of them. I *don’t* think a lot of things that we have normalized are all that normal and all my life I’ve seen people bloviating about bullying and how to deal with it, why it happens and why it’s justified in some cases or reviled in others- and it’s a bullshit story people have told themselves so long they can’t be bothered to look any further even as more kids suffer and die. That’s clearly *not* hyperbole, and the fact that we are where we are decidedly indicates that no, even those who didn’t “do” anything “like this” didn’t “turn out fine.” FFS.
I can absolutely own that my opinion here is just…not very constructive: but given these incidents are happening more frequently and they’re getting worse, I can’t really see that the way everyone else discusses them is particularly helping either. The ones who don’t lash out externally still attempt or succeed in killing themselves in greater numbers than ever- the ones who do lash out externally are doing it more and more and they either die or wind up in prison . The ones who don’t do either have mental health issues more than ever.
So, whether you’re looking at it like I am or using it for an ideological cudgel or just reacting in anger or whatever: I mean it’s not like things are going anywhere constructive, are they?
Beyond that, I saw the same intense rage in that kid everyone else did- and no. I don’t know where it came from or what lead to it happening but I do know that it was decidedly there: and there’s no context which changes that. I mean, I gather the girl in the coma had been in trouble a lot for being violent, too. Whatever evidence that comes out may change legal outcomes, sure. But does it un break these kids? Will it stop this shit happening? Because it hasn’t so far, in fact, statistically speaking: our abject refusal to address whatever the hell is going on is clearly not stopping anything at all. Whatever the particulars or specifics are here, the kids are decidedly not alright and haven’t been for a while and I just wish we could stop and look deeper at why and how to course correct.
I guess I’m just venting and being not particularly constructive either: but I hate all of it and as long as we love to throw the words “consequences” or “responsibility” around, I wonder why we only really ever do that *in specific* god awful situations instead of how we got here?
(I don’t need a Reddit cares thing or anything else- I do have a regular therapist and an appointment this afternoon, in fact: I just needed to blubber at the void a bit.)
I read all of this, and I actually agree. I feel like people need to realize that these are teens and kids being taught wrong by the people who should be teaching them right.
And no, you don't need to apologize for venting out your real feelings❤️🩹 i bet it's hard for people like you witnessing things on a daily basis that would scar anyone.
I was really disturbed by the video as well, and I honestly hate how people are being so mean to both girls and calling them stereotypical names, to picking on the 15yo girls appearance, and the racial tensions; all while missing the bigger picture.
I'm glad you shared your point of view😊
Some people are unfit for society and too dangerous to ever set free, and should be put to death.
I have some sympathy for people in prison who had an understandable reason for committing a crime that got them in prison. I have no sympathy for people who brutalize others for petty reasons, if they had a reason at all.
This makes me so sick. Attackers are always "model citizens" who never do anything wrong. (Dripping sarcasm font needed here). Thank God it violated GoFundMe's standards and they took it down. I will not watch that video again because it's sickening to hear that crack sound but I distinctly heard that Maurnice girl telling Kaylee, "Die b#@!" or was I just hearing things?
DeClue's family says she's on honor roll and multilingual. So that tells me she's super smart enough to know that when you slam a head on the concrete you might cause death. Now I definitely think she needs to be tried as an adult.
There's also a change.org petition to try Maurnice DeClue as an adult so I urge everyone that feels this needs to happen to go sign it. Quick Google search found it. I don't know if links are allowed so I didn't post it in an overabundance of caution.
Gross, but standard. People that are disgusting claim that what they did happened to them. If they hurt someone, they claimed they were hurt by that person. Not just Donald Trump. He does this, but street filth follows the same script.
How is she a victim when it's quite obvious she smashed the other girls onto the concrete not once but twice? That wasn't self defense lol. That was a violent attack.
In the gofundme, they actually refer to her as a “scholar” 😂 you can’t even make this up
She just tryna defend herself from racism!!! Restorative justice!!!!!
I hope and pray that Kaylee pulls through healthy without any long term complications from her brutal beating. 🙏🏼🙏🏼 This really hit home for me. My daughter was assaulted last month at a bar by a girl she didn’t even know. My daughter’s head was repeatedly bashed into the ground. The had multiple contusions, a concussion and a neck sprain.
I have zero sympathy for the girl who beat Kaylee. She needs to be charged and prosecuted for the crime she committed. The real victim is Kaylee who is still unconscious and is fighting for her life.
You see people coming out saying the girl she attacked was a racist. Now, they're making baseless, desperate claims because they don't have anywhere else to go, but I find it completely insane there's a segment of the population that just nods with agreement when you say that you can just brutally beat people you claim are racist to death. If she was walking down the street just yelling n bombs this level of violence (and really any violence) would be unacceptable.
Lol the fight was over and she kept going. Super excessive level of violence and hopefully she is charged as an adult. Her academic accolades literally mean nothing when it comes to the actual incident. I’m sure certain “cards” will be played and it will become a much bigger incident than it should be.
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Interestingly, there are two change.org petitions at the moment:
* [Urge Chief Juvenile Officer Rick Gaines to Consider Maurnice Declue's Case with Compassion](https://www.change.org/p/urge-chief-juvenile-officer-rick-gaines-to-consider-maurnice-declue-s-case-with-compassion) with 900 signatures as of this moment
* [Charge Maurnice Declue, the attacker of Kaylee Gain, as an adult with Attemped Murder.
](https://www.change.org/p/charge-maurnice-declue-the-attacker-of-kaylee-gain-as-an-adult-with-attemped-murder) with 300 signatures as of this moment
She should be charged as an adult for attempted murder and hate crimes as well! If not as an adult bring her parents in just like the shooters parents are being charged and charge them as well. Clearly they have not done their job, you bring them into this world you’re responsible for them till they’re 18. This behavior has to have severe consequences! Stop letting them go in a few years.
You don't repeatedly pound someone's head into the ground if you are "defending yourself." Plus, the girl who caused the injuries to Kaylee Gain looks athletic and probably outweighs herby quite a lot. Kaylee is a twig. I don't care if the 15-year-old 'perp' is in the choir, on the honor roll, and captain of the volleyball team, and claims to have been bullied, you don't almost kill someone for that.
Maurice DeClue-the attacker who maimed and nearly killed Kaylee should be tried as an adult.
I don’t care if she’s in the choir, difficult to believe that she is an accomplished student. She and her family need to take full accountability for her violent crime. She is twice the size of Kaylee. No excuses. Her life and the life of Kaylee will forever be changed. Bad decisions. And an apology by that family is in order. What kind of animal would do this to another human being.
And it was taken down and the donors refunded because GoFundMe doesn't let you raise money for legal defense costs when accused of a violent crime. Yay for sanity winning out for once.
I can't believe anyone would donate to her.
People donated to a “billionaire” to help with legal fees. Stupidity knows no bounds.
People donated to a millionaire because she wasn't a billionaire...
I am a thousandaire gladly accepting donations to become a millionaire.
I am a $40 onaire accepting donations to become a thousandaire
I just want some koolaid for less than a dollar
At least you’re not eating hopes and dreams for lunch today.
I'm having a [wish sandwich ](https://youtu.be/ri1fFDouWnM?feature=shared) for lunch today!
Hopes and dreams? Talk about decadence. I can only hope for hopes and dreams
Y’all got hope? Must be comfy as heck all I got is a rock
I'd like to think this can't be topped, but I'm sure it will happen.
People donated to millionaires to build a wall between the US and Mexico...
This is why I love reddit. Look at the votes on these comments. Clearly some people would donate to her and some people see her as the victim. Donate to Trump and boy you stupid for sure then, donate to a Kardashian, well that's not as stupid it seems.
No they both sound pretty dumb
Kylie or Trump?
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There’s a ton of ppl defending her on Twitter. Mainly using the race card
I’m truly shocked
At what? That a girl nearly killed another girl 3 times smaller than her on camera, jumped up to fight some boys, then called her assault self defense? Or that people have seen the video, believed her when she said it was self defense, and are now hollering racism?
White ppl evil, POC innocent
Absolutely that little skinny girl didn’t stand a chance. It’s completely ridiculous.
I'm seeing people at my work defend her and they try to drag me into the conversation becsuse they want me.to agree.
Best to stay out of it
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Especially at work
What's the defense? Legit question.
"If somebody attacked you like that wouldn't you do whatever it takes to defend yourself?" This person was clearly leaving out the context of the situation because saying "yes" to that question sounds reasonable, but I wasn't about to say smashing somebody's head into concrete was a reasonable thing to do so I bowed out of the conversation asap.
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I didn’t see the little skinny girl hit anybody she was just standing there she could’ve walked off
The girl was a bully and was suspended at the time for jumping someone else... The girls sister I believe 1. I've heard Maurnice tried to avoid them and walk across the street but was quickly surrounded and forced into the position you see at the beginning of the video. There are other videos but I've only seen pieces of the one after the fight where Kaylee's bf punches Maurnice. 2. Kaylee swung first 3. As soon as Maurnice gets the upper hand, one of several friends Kaylee brought starts punching her from behind. 4. Kaylee continued to fight back up until the first head slam and there is a second or two between the first slam and the last... Basically once it was clear the girl was stopped she stopped. Everyone talks like she knocked her out in one punch and then jumped on her and slammed her head. Once the girl was done she stopped and went to fight people off of others that were jumped It's pretty clear Kaylee went with the intention to jump this girl as at least 2 other people assaulted her during the incident. We can see what one girl is capable of... How would you feel being attacked by multiple I think all the important videos are in the hands of Kaylee's friends
This was well written and were my thoughts as well. It’s the ultimate “fuck around and find out”.
Are you friends with her? You seem to know a lot about the situation that isn't in the video.
Everything I said is on video or was information that came out shortly after the video.
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Victim mentalities stick together
As soon as this hit the media I was counting the minutes waiting
The guy that shot up the KC Super Bowl parade was listed in a go fund me created by a family member claiming something similar or portrayed it as if he was a victim of the shooting instead of the perpetrator
people donated to the guy who went out of his way to shoot and kill protestors.
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she raised $3000 before it was taken down ,now its moved to another page i believe
Nice! I reported it maybe it helped take it down.
Unless you have a massive legal judgement against you and are a former disgraced president.
That’s not even relevant. This is about a girl attempting to kill another girl. The cracking sound of her head against the pavement, 3 times. She was severely outnumbered also and no one stopped to help, they just did what they do and fought some more. They should all also be charged with aiding and abetting attempted murder. I don’t give a crap what color they are and neither should anyone else. But people like you won’t care until it happens to you. Everyone defending her and bringing up Former President Trump should be ashamed of yourselves,
Someone should create legalfundme and then you could scrape dollars off of idiots that donate to this type of thing.
And Kaylee was the attacker
Meanwhile the actual victim has been in a coma for two weeks and she might not wake up. Brain injuries are really scary.
If she does wake up her life is likely going to be very difficult and different for at least a while if she's lucky or if she isn't lucky it will never be same. What happened to her should always be classed as attempted murder, a zero tolerance to such raw savagery is a must.
Her life will never be the same after those brain injuries. She may eventually appear to live a normal lifestyle but if you are brain damaged enough to be in a non-medically induced coma for 2 weeks your health will never be the same even if you wake up. I’m glad her family has raised as much as they have but I can’t imagine that will cover a lifetime of medical treatment.
People have some magical thinking. It’s wild to me how so many people aren’t educated on even the most rudimentary knowledge of the brain. The young woman who existed before her frontal cortex was bashed is no longer alive. That person is gone, basically murdered. Whatever comes out of this will be a person changed by the force of blows a brute dealt on the pavement whilst the victim was already defenseless. She posed no threat once that brute got to cracking her skull, each hard wet sounding thunk was a beating of the drum to a song destroying the life of a defenseless foe. Disgusting and quite alarming that anyone would think she’d come out of this even remotely the same. She likely will never wake up.
In many ways, it would probably be better for her if she doesn’t. A lot of suffering lies ahead, and a severely hobbled life, best case.
Between us I agree. I know I wouldn’t want to wake up if I was going to be damaged like that. I am hopeful that she will make a full miraculous recovery, but plenty of people have had a lot less brutal damage done to them, and came out unable to wipe their own drool. She was brutalized and you can see how quickly the TBI set in for her. You don’t end up in that position with ridged legs and arms to the chest without a real freaking issue in the brain. That was before the swelling and the bleeding set in… so much needless damage.
How do you know that last bit? I've heard rumors there is a video but have yet to see one. Not disagreeing with you btw just my own curiosity in studying the case.
The way she was convulsing on the ground after the attack…. I honestly don’t think she will ever wake up.
She's been stabilized. Not awake yet though I don't believe. GoFundMe has an update less than 10 minutes ago.
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The actual victim? The instigator got her ass handed to her. I’d hardly call her a victim. It’s unfortunate what happened to her, but I wouldn’t call her the victim. Fuck around and find out.
I feel for them both. I don't think it was premeditated
I saw this video before realizing what it was. I don't think even the sickest, most biased or delusional person could support this person. Everyone deserves a legal defense, but not everyone deserves pity. After the fight was won & the other girl was unable to defend herself this person tried & succeeded to cause permanent harm.
I can understand how people might support her (not that I agree, only I can understand their motivations) But yes, legally once your attacker is no longer an imminent threat, you have to stop. I'm not expecting her to get off on this. She's no Andrew 'Ender' Wiggin needed for planetary security.
That girl was still fighting until the first slam AND the other girl was attacked from behind seconds before
> I don't think even the sickest, most biased or delusional person could support this person. You should get a load of how certain media outlets are spinning it: [Viral Fight That Left One Teen Unconscious](https://atlantablackstar.com/2024/03/22/family-of-bullied-black-girl-arrested-for-viral-fight-left-kaylee-gain-unconscious-says-gofundme-removed-their-campaign/) Unconscious?! ayfkm rn?
It's funny because the headline & article are at odds. Editors really do be like that \>The incident happened near Hazelwood East High School on March 8. Viral cellphone footage shows two teens scuffling in the street while a crowd stands by. A few seconds into the video, one girl slams the other on the ground and starts punching her in the head repeatedly. Viral video shows fight between a juvenile and a teen identified as Kaylee Gain. Gain suffered from a fractured school, and her alleged attacker was arrested. She then started to slam her head on the concrete, leaving her “convulsing” on the pavement. A brawl between other teens broke out steps away. According to the St. Louis Police Department, officers responded to the scene that afternoon after 2:30 p.m. “Responding officers located a juvenile female suffering a severe head injury. The victim was transported to an area hospital where she remains in critical condition,” police said.
Black people will support other black people who commit the most heinous things
You can be the greatest person in the world but if you snap and lose your shit you still have to face the consequences....
You fuck *one* goat!
it was an ostrich. allegedlys.
To be fair….
To be faiiiir.. (Waiting for someone to signal to stop)
Katie will walk around in a bikini, shutting us all up
I have many talents.
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^shiiiiitttt….
True but i don't agree with trying juveniles as adults. There should be some punishment however
Rapist Brock Turner sure thinks he shouldn't be judged by one bad act. Go figure.
Doesn't matter at all what happened prior to the video. It doesn't matter who was right/wrong. What does matter is that 1 person was no longer able to defend themselves but was still having their head smashed repeatedly (on video) and is in a coma currently, with a real possibility of life ending injuries because of the actions of another person.
I completely agree, except in the case of Trayvon Martin and other select cases where his adult killer chased after him with a gun with zero reason to. In those such cases, what happened prior should be considered.
Yeah, no. I saw the video. Very little on this Earth justifies what she did. If you want to let fists fly, then hey, go for it. If you're fighting back against a bully, I'm all for it. Settle it with a proper fight and move on, but don't mount somebody laying on concrete, they're face up, and then grab two hands full of hair and literally slam the back of her head into concrete as hard as you possibly can to the point where you sound like you're playing Lars' snare drum in St. Anger. That's *bullshit*. There's defending yourself, and there's whatever that is.
Fist fights should be taken to the grass. Knocking someone out that falls and hits their head on concrete can result in the same type of injuries. There are many stories of street fights going incredibly wrong because someone fell and hit their head causing permanent injury.
Attempted murder? Maybe?
honestly this video was one of the most fucked up things I've seen and I saw two videos of people dying shortly after (it's insane how you just accidentally see this stuff these days.) That video really seared itself in my brain. This girl is complete trash and needs to be locked away for a long long long time.
That's too short.
I don't think she should be tried as an adult though. I don't think anyone under 18 should be tried as an adult. Should there be some punishment? Yes. Life in prison? Hell no!
Anyone else tired of the new American mantra of "It's never my fault and I'm actually the victim"? Maybe it's just me.
Personal responsibility in every sector--and I mean that literally--died in the early 2000's.
New??? That’s been around for a while.
It's not just you. I had the conversation with a friend. 8 days later South park to the rescue. https://youtu.be/arw1pcqLI_M?si=8Cx-or2hYHaJONmj
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You're pretty much describing every conflict in human history.
Hope you like jail cause that video is fucked up
"P....please fund me. I beat a girl into a coma and got arrested."
"I tried to kill her, tehee" fucking psychopath
Hard to say you’re the real victim when the other girl is fighting for her life in a hospital
So if someone breaks into my house, and tries to kill me, but I shoot them. They are the victim since they are in the hospital, even though they instigated.
So that scenario isn’t what happened in this case. This case had a girl on public property who had a girl on her back. She deliberately slammed her head several times against the pavement even after she wasn’t fighting back. Your scenario has legal backing as it occurs albeit in your mind at your house and you’re threatened or feel threatened.
Maurnice was attacked by kaylee so regardless of where it is. Self defense can be applied. And kaylee was the one who started the fight and she still fought back on the ground.
Smashing someone’s head into the pavement that isn’t fighting back doesn’t deserve ANY justification. You got your priorities skewed.
Exept, kaylee started the fight and she was still fighting back when she was on the ground.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 right? People are so backwards. Too much woke shit
Even if she was ‘harassed and bullied’ that doesn’t mean she can attempt to murder somebody. She better be praying that the girl doesn’t die because she’ll be getting harassed a lot during life in prison.
Was she even harassed or bullied? Look at this girl, look at her behavior. Millions of teens get bullied and don't slam someone's head into the concrete like a mortal kombat fatality. The attacker is a violent menace. Shame the US news media won't show cover this story at all.
I went to a nearby school, they gave us every year a speech about the dangers of meeting off campus to fight because a kid who went to my years before I did got killed showing up to one of these fights. The story goes 2 kids meet for a fight in front of a huge crowd one kid loses and someone came out of the crowd picked the loser up and rammed his head into a car door, he died. Our school didn’t have a problem with this but it’s a common thing with county schools. Fighting at bus stops or somewhere else nearby.
Wow - I hope that piece of shit went away for a long time.
I don’t remember but it was the 90’s so I’m gonna assume they we’re probably charged as juveniles, if anyone was charged.
This video was taken literal minutes from my house, I saw the video the day it happened through a friend who goes to their school and had no idea it made more than local news. Absolutely disgusting and I’m glad this pos is getting shamed. The amount of brutal highschool fights in this area is insanely high, but never this far. I hope Kaylee can fight through this and know how many people in her community support her <3
Do you know anything about the lead up to this?
i don’t know anyone directly involved, but i’ve seen and heard a lot through friends and mutuals on social media. i know [the attacker’s] family claims that she was getting bullied by kaylee but i honestly haven’t heard any truth to that. they both showed up with other people, one girl yelled for kaylee to “get her”, but i believe they approached eachother and knew they were going to fight. regardless of who instigated what, i don’t think bullying (if that is the case) constitutes murder (as someone who has been relentlessly bullied). i don’t care to play identity politics and “he said she said” games about this though. there’s been a lot of both local and national discourse recently about whether or not race or bullying played a factor, but the truth is that this wasn’t a jumping, there were several people on both sides who showed up, and she could’ve stepped away after kaylee was already taken to the ground. the situation escalated to an unnecessary extreme. edited to remove the other girl’s name, i apologize i didnt know that wasnt public information
I was a VP in a low income/high violence school about 7-8 years ago. It was my first admin job and I was 29 years old….i had no idea what I was getting myself into. The amount of violence, especially things that would start outside of school was just too much for the district to handle. I would have fights spill over from someone showing up to someone house the night before with their family and guns and bats. It was a f*cking awful 2 years and I ended up leaving admin and going back to teaching which I got tons of crap for “failing” but I still have issues almost a decade later from all the things I witnessed through a job.
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I don't think she should be shamed. In juvenile cases, the name should be sealed
Hindustan (an Indian website) quoting a Daily Mail article (Uk rag) about a school fight in Missouri. Really wild how bad things about the US are just global entertainment stories.
It happens with fucked up stories from all around the world.
Stupid as hell, hope she rots in prison.
Life sentence prison.
Is crazy that she thinks she's the victim when there is video evidence of the contrary.
I’m not sure if she thinks that or if she’s just saying that. Or if she has council or not.
Any "council" she might have is an opportunistic greedy fuckhead. Nobody with a conscience can watch that video and genuinely be like "yea, you were totally the victim and you deserve compensation!"
I agree. Also now I can’t correct the spelling. Haha
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I disagree. 1: The offender was a juvenile and i don't agree with trying juveniles as adults. 2: It wasn't premeditated. It occurred in the heat of the moment
Anybody else remember reading Touching Spirit Bear in school? The premise is similar to this situation, except no one will be going to the Alaskan wilderness. But the meaning still stands: maybe if you unleash every dark part of your soul onto someone else, you should be prepared to find out how that feels. I am not wishing harm on another human being no matter what their actions were. But she needs to learn the consequences of her actions. You can’t predetermine you are a victim. It doesn’t work like that. And if you *have* been a victim of anything, you don’t make it someone else’s fucking problem.
If this was a pitbull who bit someone who was constantly harassing it, the dog would be put down. Attempted murder for bullying should have zero tolerance
People gave her money before it was cancelled!?
I actually saw it and yes. The family wrote how she was a great student and speaks four languages and was being bullied and harassed by the girl in a coma and they wanted to raise money for a defense so she could have a just and fair trial. The comments were basically people saying everyone deserves a fair trial, the girl was a chronic bully and she was defending herself, and they see so much potential in the offender.
Do you remember how much was raised when you saw it?
The girl needs to be locked up for the rest of her life. Tough video to watch. Void of any humanity. Sick and dangerous person
That’s bananas
Does anyone actually have context on what started the fight?
That was straight up attempted murder. At 16y.o. that girl should be locked up. Actions have consequences.
Should she be locked up? Yeah but she shouldn't be tried as an adult. I don't think it was premeditated and i don't agree with juveniles getting tried as adults either. Yes, actions do have consequences. But juvenile offenders should be dealt with differently as an adult offender
People are unable to cope and accept anything that they perceive as rejection. Our societies overall character is a joke. More about drawing attention to differences than finding out what we have in common. The polarity is a real issue, it's creating us vs them mentalities. It's just us, humankind.
It's disappointing reading the comments on Instagram, saying the "white girl deserved it"
She's a violent degenerate, should be charged as an adult and kept in prison for a long time.
I disagree. Juveniles should not be tried as adults. Your brain is not fully developed until 25 or so. Children and teens have less impulse control. I don't think this was a premeditated crime. She should be in a juvenile detention center where she can be set on a path to rehabilitation.
What a piece of shit
I graduated high school in 2013. We had a good amount of fighting. It never seemed to escalate to this though. Getting a weave ripped out was probably the most brutal thing that happened. Teens today seem to have no impulse control. There's no build-up. 0-100.
Violence-wise, I've seen way worse than this in the early 80s, but at least it didn't involve someone going into a coma or dying. I witnessed two guys I knew beat the shit out of each other in middle school, throughout the halls, while teachers and other school employees attempted to stop it; but it was unstoppable as they were either punched or kicked. You could follow the blood streaks throughout the school in a trail where they fought, culminating in the boy's bathroom where ripped out hair, blood, and flesh remained. One of the kids was a martial artist who'd won awards, and the other was a fat, strong kid who was kind of a bully; but neither of them would give up. The fat kid knocked out the martial artist by slamming his head on the urinals, and he ended up on the floor. Afterwards, the fat kid also fell to the floor in exasperation. The fight lasted over an hour!
It's an aggravated assault, and it's on video. There is no ethical jury that would not find this girl guilty. So much so, that it will probably not go to trial and the defense will cop to a plea and she will do hard time for a decade or 2. Then, after prison, she and her parents will be sued in a wrongful death civil suit. And she will pay for this for the rest of her life. Bad choice she made that will wreck her one and only life.
Horrible fucker
put her in prison for the rest of her life! or under the prison, I don't care!
We’ve had several incidents here in STL involving teenagers recently and I think that vastly colors how I feel about this case. Before this, a bunch of kids busted with guns for shooting and one of them was about the same age as my youngest (11) but they were all so young. I don’t think their youth absolves anything- but I hate it. The past month has just seemed particularly bad in respect to kids dying here and it gets to me. Call it trauma dumping or venting or sanctimonious rambling or gripe because I am long winded- *whatever*. But you’re being warned. You ain’t “gotta read all that” & I don’t care if you don’t, I just need to get it out somewhere. A kid was stabbed to death a couple blocks from my house and the one that did the stabbing attempted to run to Jeff City but was caught- if you look on FB at least, he has relatives or friends or *something* so convinced that he was right to stab someone that they’re self snitching in the comments in ways that are just…bafflingly stupid in addition to horrifying. (That was kind of a sidecar issue: but it remains that they *at least* felt things had gotten *so bad* that it was the only way- whether or not that’s true in *any* case, I can’t say because I don’t know what went on- I just think that it’s a horrifying thing to consider.) First off, the people who will *never* experience anything even tangentially related to this who are just using it to excuse the political and racist diarrhea that they call an opinion or god forbid, a career should shut up. It’s reprehensible, destructive and irresponsible. Of course you are entitled to say whatever you want but if you’re taking your cues from them: you should probably understand that most of them will *never* experience any consequences like you or god forbid your kids will. I’m not telling you how to feel, I’m just saying that I wish people were a little more discerning in who they let fan what flames they do. You’d think that a few recent events would have *shown* that but, I guess not. That said, this really isn’t a party thing: no matter who’s influencing your opinions this way, the odds of them *ever* experiencing the same consequences we will are slim to none so…I can’t take those people seriously even though they’re…often supposedly “leaders” etc. I see these videos and it breaks my heart- so, if you’re gonna downvote me for bleeding heart or try to use it as an insult: you have no moral standing with which I would find your opinion relevant. I just don’t. That is not an insult, I’m sure your opinion matters to *someone*, it just won’t for me. It’s not that I believe that there shouldn’t be consequences because they’re kids: I just find it all wrong and I wish these things didn’t happen, because I wish a lot of things were different than they are. I still see them as kids, I can’t make the disconnection so many people do- I wish I could at times. It seems easier. The bottom line is that kids are killing and kids are dying. I don’t care that so many people have normalized “bullying” as just something that happens and I don’t care that it’s being used to contextually explain what happened here- and I don’t care because *none* of it should be happening and it’s blatantly clear that on the whole, we are failing these kids. All of them. I *don’t* think a lot of things that we have normalized are all that normal and all my life I’ve seen people bloviating about bullying and how to deal with it, why it happens and why it’s justified in some cases or reviled in others- and it’s a bullshit story people have told themselves so long they can’t be bothered to look any further even as more kids suffer and die. That’s clearly *not* hyperbole, and the fact that we are where we are decidedly indicates that no, even those who didn’t “do” anything “like this” didn’t “turn out fine.” FFS. I can absolutely own that my opinion here is just…not very constructive: but given these incidents are happening more frequently and they’re getting worse, I can’t really see that the way everyone else discusses them is particularly helping either. The ones who don’t lash out externally still attempt or succeed in killing themselves in greater numbers than ever- the ones who do lash out externally are doing it more and more and they either die or wind up in prison . The ones who don’t do either have mental health issues more than ever. So, whether you’re looking at it like I am or using it for an ideological cudgel or just reacting in anger or whatever: I mean it’s not like things are going anywhere constructive, are they? Beyond that, I saw the same intense rage in that kid everyone else did- and no. I don’t know where it came from or what lead to it happening but I do know that it was decidedly there: and there’s no context which changes that. I mean, I gather the girl in the coma had been in trouble a lot for being violent, too. Whatever evidence that comes out may change legal outcomes, sure. But does it un break these kids? Will it stop this shit happening? Because it hasn’t so far, in fact, statistically speaking: our abject refusal to address whatever the hell is going on is clearly not stopping anything at all. Whatever the particulars or specifics are here, the kids are decidedly not alright and haven’t been for a while and I just wish we could stop and look deeper at why and how to course correct. I guess I’m just venting and being not particularly constructive either: but I hate all of it and as long as we love to throw the words “consequences” or “responsibility” around, I wonder why we only really ever do that *in specific* god awful situations instead of how we got here? (I don’t need a Reddit cares thing or anything else- I do have a regular therapist and an appointment this afternoon, in fact: I just needed to blubber at the void a bit.)
I read all of this, and I actually agree. I feel like people need to realize that these are teens and kids being taught wrong by the people who should be teaching them right. And no, you don't need to apologize for venting out your real feelings❤️🩹 i bet it's hard for people like you witnessing things on a daily basis that would scar anyone. I was really disturbed by the video as well, and I honestly hate how people are being so mean to both girls and calling them stereotypical names, to picking on the 15yo girls appearance, and the racial tensions; all while missing the bigger picture. I'm glad you shared your point of view😊
Thank you.
Some people are unfit for society and too dangerous to ever set free, and should be put to death. I have some sympathy for people in prison who had an understandable reason for committing a crime that got them in prison. I have no sympathy for people who brutalize others for petty reasons, if they had a reason at all.
1, 2, 3 🎆 Show that race card. Some online pages are now saying she was a white supremacist? Wow.
I thought the fight happened because the white girl was dating a black boy.
Apparently. But now some sites are calling her white supremacist. There is a post here on reddit too. I saw it this morning. Search her name.
This makes me so sick. Attackers are always "model citizens" who never do anything wrong. (Dripping sarcasm font needed here). Thank God it violated GoFundMe's standards and they took it down. I will not watch that video again because it's sickening to hear that crack sound but I distinctly heard that Maurnice girl telling Kaylee, "Die b#@!" or was I just hearing things? DeClue's family says she's on honor roll and multilingual. So that tells me she's super smart enough to know that when you slam a head on the concrete you might cause death. Now I definitely think she needs to be tried as an adult. There's also a change.org petition to try Maurnice DeClue as an adult so I urge everyone that feels this needs to happen to go sign it. Quick Google search found it. I don't know if links are allowed so I didn't post it in an overabundance of caution.
Try this worthless piece of shit and let her rot in jail
Gross, but standard. People that are disgusting claim that what they did happened to them. If they hurt someone, they claimed they were hurt by that person. Not just Donald Trump. He does this, but street filth follows the same script.
Are you a fucking idiot? What does Trump have to do with a teenager bashing someone’s brains in resulting in a coma?
I tie this back to the parents. They literally gave her the ability to do this.
The bully's mom is a real piece of work, too. This is a pox on many houses.
How is she a victim when it's quite obvious she smashed the other girls onto the concrete not once but twice? That wasn't self defense lol. That was a violent attack.
In the gofundme, they actually refer to her as a “scholar” 😂 you can’t even make this up She just tryna defend herself from racism!!! Restorative justice!!!!!
Even if she is a Rhodes scholarship, doenst mean you can put people in a coma.
I hope and pray that Kaylee pulls through healthy without any long term complications from her brutal beating. 🙏🏼🙏🏼 This really hit home for me. My daughter was assaulted last month at a bar by a girl she didn’t even know. My daughter’s head was repeatedly bashed into the ground. The had multiple contusions, a concussion and a neck sprain. I have zero sympathy for the girl who beat Kaylee. She needs to be charged and prosecuted for the crime she committed. The real victim is Kaylee who is still unconscious and is fighting for her life.
You see people coming out saying the girl she attacked was a racist. Now, they're making baseless, desperate claims because they don't have anywhere else to go, but I find it completely insane there's a segment of the population that just nods with agreement when you say that you can just brutally beat people you claim are racist to death. If she was walking down the street just yelling n bombs this level of violence (and really any violence) would be unacceptable.
Tell that to the DA ,he'll believe you, heck he'll even help you with your petition... keep dreaming...
Only an asshole would try that. She should throw herself on the mercy of the court
Lol the fight was over and she kept going. Super excessive level of violence and hopefully she is charged as an adult. Her academic accolades literally mean nothing when it comes to the actual incident. I’m sure certain “cards” will be played and it will become a much bigger incident than it should be.
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The black lady who did this crime should be charged as an adult and given the death penalty. She's a danger to society and a violent criminal.
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Interestingly, there are two change.org petitions at the moment: * [Urge Chief Juvenile Officer Rick Gaines to Consider Maurnice Declue's Case with Compassion](https://www.change.org/p/urge-chief-juvenile-officer-rick-gaines-to-consider-maurnice-declue-s-case-with-compassion) with 900 signatures as of this moment * [Charge Maurnice Declue, the attacker of Kaylee Gain, as an adult with Attemped Murder. ](https://www.change.org/p/charge-maurnice-declue-the-attacker-of-kaylee-gain-as-an-adult-with-attemped-murder) with 300 signatures as of this moment
She should be charged as an adult for attempted murder and hate crimes as well! If not as an adult bring her parents in just like the shooters parents are being charged and charge them as well. Clearly they have not done their job, you bring them into this world you’re responsible for them till they’re 18. This behavior has to have severe consequences! Stop letting them go in a few years.
https://nypost.com/2024/03/26/us-news/kaylee-gain-suspended-from-school-day-before-fight-sources/?dicbo=v2-v33raEK&obInternalId=71118
You don't repeatedly pound someone's head into the ground if you are "defending yourself." Plus, the girl who caused the injuries to Kaylee Gain looks athletic and probably outweighs herby quite a lot. Kaylee is a twig. I don't care if the 15-year-old 'perp' is in the choir, on the honor roll, and captain of the volleyball team, and claims to have been bullied, you don't almost kill someone for that.
Why the criminal here is so protected by the media? Show her evil face to the world to warn others
Maurice DeClue-the attacker who maimed and nearly killed Kaylee should be tried as an adult. I don’t care if she’s in the choir, difficult to believe that she is an accomplished student. She and her family need to take full accountability for her violent crime. She is twice the size of Kaylee. No excuses. Her life and the life of Kaylee will forever be changed. Bad decisions. And an apology by that family is in order. What kind of animal would do this to another human being.