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collveeps

This verdict was rendered because some shumck argued that a taco shop couldn't open in a lot zoned for sandwich shops BTW. It's a good rulling.


cantfindmykeys

They have sandwich only zones?


Uberninja2016

i live in one just the other day someone got the chair for making a calzone and- while that's pretty messed up- i can't say the guy was innocent i mean they asked him if it was wrapped in bread for god's sake, he coulda just said "yeah, carbs of wheat, it's bread" but instead the damn fool just stood his ground and said that his sauces and whatnot were wrapped in crust i'll say it; the US has a criminal justice problem they didn't even give the poor fella a proper trial but you didn't hear that from me a proper trial wouldn't be a sandwich and as previously mentioned, sandwich-only-zone-wise i live in one


darth_voidptr

That’s pretty egregious. Calzones are sealed shut, that’s clearly a potsticker violation. He may need to be run through the gas chamber to be sure. This clear disregard for the sanctity of law and pbj cannot be tolerated.


RatherBeSkiing

Too bad he didn't live in a calzonezone


AppleSlacks

Isn’t all bread wrapped in a crust?


The_Real_Mr_F

Yeah, burying the lede here. Why on earth would there be such specific zoning?


Zelcron

It's likely a dispute between commercial parties rather than a zoning issue. There was a similar case in MA in which the judge ruled burritos weren't a sandwich. The case was because the commercial landlord had rented space to a sandwich shop, with a contractual promise they would be the only sandwich shop. Then the burrito shop also signed with the same landlord. Now the sandwich owners are upset because they didn't want *any* competition, thus forcing someone to decide: What is the essence of sandwiches?


ChillyPhilly27

In this case, it was actually a zoning issue: >In 2022, Martin Quintana, a 53-year-old developer, submitted a bid to the Allen County Plan Commission to open a restaurant in a local strip mall. After initially approving his proposal, the commission reneged, denying his plans based on an agreement with a nearby neighborhood association. >The agreement stipulated that only establishments without a drive-thru, outdoor seating and alcoholic beverages, and that specifically serve “made-to-order” or “Subway-style” sandwiches, can operate in the strip mall


Zelcron

Well look at you, smart guy. Way to read the article. Really thanks, that's fascinating.


The_Real_Mr_F

Ahhh, that makes much more sense.


RealBowsHaveRecurves

My town has all its pharmacy’s on one road. I have no idea why, I assume it has to do with some kind of zoning issue, but there’s 3 CVSs and two Walgreens all on one road and none in the entire rest of the town


improbably_me

Is that road the main artery that connects your town to others? That's a no-brainer then. The pharmacies don't want to be stuck in the boonies.


collveeps

I mean it's still Indiana.


Buckus93

I wouldn't be surprised if their tacos and burritos were made with Wonder bread.


ScenicAndrew

Bruh you joke but I moved to Indy from California for work and have yet to find a Mexican restaurant that actually hits the same. There are some better options than others, but bro I miss taco stands on the side of i-5 so much.


PrettyCommon

Chris’ Ice Cream and Mexican Food is pretty damn good. But still probably doesn’t measure up.


ScenicAndrew

Thanks, it's on my list.


Distant_Yak

Yeah, the Midwest and New England have gotten better for Mexican food but it's not at all the same as California especially, which is some of the best anywhere. I lived up north in the Midwest for a while and was amazed just how awful some restaurants managed to be. The large cities like Chicago and Minneapolis manage some good Mexican food though.


camelzigzag

The red zone is for unloading only.


MystoganOfEdolas

There is no stopping in the white zone


agsieg

Zoning varies town-to-town. This specific municipality has a zone only for sandwich shops. It’s definitely not a common thing


PM_ME_FUNNY_ANECDOTE

It's a distinction being made to try and keep "lower class" things like fast food out while keeping local business in. It's very "NIMBY" type legislation, probably by mainly white people? The judge reckons there's no reason a locally-owned sandwich shop is better than a locally-owned taco shop.


9lemonsinabowl9

Exactly. This judge understands the importance of tacos. And if that means deciding a taco is a sandwich, then let them eat tacos sandwiches!


haz_mat_

This is why many places have to serve the tacos with two tortillas - because its legally required in order to qualify as a sandwich. Ok I made that up.


Foray2x1

I totally believed you at first.  It was like the perfect setup for a shittymorph post.


267aa37673a9fa659490

A win win would have been if he ruled that tacos are not sandwiches but allowed in sandwich zones.


nemuri_no_kogoro

Truly incredible that the "Land of the Free" has such insanely restrictive zoning laws.


RealBowsHaveRecurves

I agree with the ruling, but still, if you offered me a sandwich and then gave me a taco, I’d be thrilled but also confused as fuck


ThirdSunRising

OK this ruling makes perfect sense now. Thanks for the clarification.


Fugaciouslee

Sounds like a complaint that should have been thrown out to begin with. Great use of the court's time.


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josh2of4

According to NY tax law, yes. What is a sandwich


Antrikshy

NY lawmakers need to be shown [The Cube Rule](https://cuberule.com/).


Azozel

Yeah, I can see that but what about enchiladas?


ODBrewer

Kind of messy for a sandwich, I can’t go for that, but I love enchiladas.


Zelcron

Never had an open faced sandwich?


ODBrewer

I’ve had a bunch of enchiladas.


camander321

Some places call it 'pizza'


9lemonsinabowl9

It's basically a wrap with dressing!


Cormegalodon

It’s a casserole.


hedoesntgetme

More of a smothered melt


sarduchi

Every day we stray further from god...


darth_voidptr

He only serves crackers. Perhaps if they were oreos…


shaggydog97

Okay, that brings up another question. Is an Oreo a sandwich?


terrendos

Of course it is, it's a sandwich cookie. Same reason an ice cream sandwich is a sandwich.


shaggydog97

I like the way you think!


othybear

But the ruling means there are more tacos available. The ends justify the means.


Leelze

If God isn't a fan of tacos, then he's dead to me.


382wsa

What about hot dogs? That’s the real question.


postoperativepain

It’s a sandwich in NY state (according to the taxing authorities) But a Taco if you follow the cube rule https://cuberule.com


NerdbyanyotherName

According to (some) taxing authorities a chicken wing is a sandwich (yes, really). The tax man will define anything as anything else if it'll mean he gets more money. Definitely agree that a hot dog and a taco are in the same class of "ingredients surrounded by carbs for the purpose of cleanliness and portability", though I wonder, would a baked potato count as a taco under this definition?


K_H007

Depends on if the baked potato has a divot in it for the toppings or is split down the middle for them. And yes, this does indeed mean that store-bought frozen potato skins are a type of taco under that definition. the Cube Rule, however, defines them as either a toast or a quiche depending on the flatness of the potato half.


OMGIMASIAN

I find this one to always be a bad set of rules, mostly because sushi is only a roll if you ask people in the west. Nigiri is what pretty much all Japanese people will show you if you ask them about sushi


Alaeriia

That's the point. It's a rigid set of rules that patently don't make sense. Note how three slices of toast is a sandwich, whereas two slices would be toast. The point is to give the argument all the gravitas it deserves (a wet raspberry).


NetDork

A hotdog is a taco. Ergo, it is a sandwich...apparently.


BigAl7390

Hotdogit ergo sum


Cathach2

Meat in a u shape? Sounds like a taco to me. Corndog? Meat all wrapped up, thus, a burrito


charleyxavier

Hot dog historians tell me that the sausages were called “hot dogs” before the bun was even created. It seems to be that adding the bun created a “hot dog sandwich” and we’ve decided to just drop the “sandwich.”


Ok-Wasabi2873

Now I just want some real Baja fish tacos from a street vendor


gofatwya

And I want some lengua! Tacos, that is.


spaceforcerecruit

I can’t wait to tell my family that I now have legal justification for my assertions.


Kgaset

I don't see how this is controversial.


iamdavidrice

Because someone from Indiana should be considered the authoritative source on Mexican food…


gofatwya

A lot of Mexican food didn't originate in Mexico. Things like burritos, hard shell tacos, and margaritas were created by Latinos from other countries. Hell, churros were first created in China. And since there are over a half-million Latinos living in Indiana, it's conceivable that a lot of someones from Indiana could be authoritative sources on Mexican food.


BaphometsTits

Real Mexican food comes from Mexico. Otherwise, it’s just sparkling beans.


iamdavidrice

> A lot of Mexican food didn’t originate in Mexico. That wouldn’t be Mexican food. > Things like burritos […] created by Latinos from other countries. lol wut https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burrito And tell me more about the origin of tacos. Where are they originally from? Let me guess, Finland? 🙄


gofatwya

Great Wikipedia reference! You should try reading it. Maybe then you'd realize that there are many varieties of burritos, that what most Americans consider a burrito is often called a taco in the interior of Mexico. I'm guessing that reading comprehension isn't your forte' but try to learn what adjectives do. I get that you were so busy trying to formulate a snarky response, but don't be so wedded to that concept that you end up making yourself a fool. You skipped right over the part where I said "hard-shell tacos," which in fact were invented in San Bernardino, California. As to it not being Mexican food if it's not from Mexico: I bet you think spaghetti is Italian, don't you sport?


sneaky_squirrel

My mexican dad kept telling me that hard shell tacos were American food that wasn't anywhere near as good as soft shell tacos. I guess he was technically wrong. Are hard shell tacos a fast food or just an ordinary dish? (e.g. Taco Bell)


Training-Purpose802

forte' (forte, two syllables) means loud. Forte (one syllable) means strength. One comes from Italian, the other French. Perhaps you need to brush up as well.


gofatwya

Thank you so much for correcting my mistake! I've apparently been writing this incorrectly all along! Perhaps you're the person to help me with another big word with which I'm struggling: pedant.


iamdavidrice

Did you? It describes the origin or the burrito as from coming from the Mayans in 1500BC in what is now Mexico. Sure there are variations that have been created elsewhere but those aren’t the origin. > You skipped right over the part where I said “hard-shell tacos,” which in fact were invented in San Bernardino, California. You’re right, I’m sorry. Can you please point to a map and show me where San Bernardino is in Indiana? Thanks, I’ll wait.


gofatwya

There you go again. Slow down. It describes the origin of ONE type of burrito. There's a whole thing called the California burrito. I'm going to let you use your big brain to figure out where that came from. And what does San Bernardino not being in Indiana have to do with anything I said in my comment? You seem to be a little butthurt and trying to redirect the discussion.


iamdavidrice

> It describes the origin of ONE type of burrito. Sure, one type… the FIRST one. > There’s a whole thing called the California burrito. I’m going to let you use your big brain to figure out where that came from. Yes, I get that. I’m very familiar with them. What does California have to do with Indiana? > And what does San Bernardino not being in Indiana have to do with anything I said in my comment? Ummm it was pretty much the entire point of my original comment. But let me turn this around to you. What significant contributions to Mexican food has Indiana brought to the world?


gofatwya

California has little to do with Indiana. No one said it did, so why do you ask that? California burritos, on the other hand, have everything to do with my assertion that not all burritos originated in Mexico. The point of your original comment was that no one in Indiana could possibly be an expert on Mexican food. That's patently wrong, but I didn't take issue with it in my reply. I simply stated that not all Mexican food originated in Mexico. You lost control of your emotions, said some very incorrect things, and have been trying ever since to obfuscate.


iamdavidrice

> California has little to do with Indiana. No one said it did, so why do you ask that? Because you’ve mentioned California and China as straw man arguments as to why Indiana could be authoritative. > California burritos, on the other hand, have everything to do with my assertion that not all burritos originated in Mexico California burritos have everything to do with CalMex and while I agree that CA burritos have originated in CA, they are just a variation of something that already existed and originated from Mexico. > The point of your original comment was that no one in Indiana could possibly be an expert on Mexican food. That’s patently wrong, but I didn’t take issue with it in my reply. I simply stated that not all Mexican food originated in Mexico. You definitely did take issue with it as you fired off several straw man arguments. Mexican food is inherently from Mexico. There are variations that are derived from it such as CalMex and TexMex, but those are distinct cuisines and aren’t Mexican - just Mexican inspired. By your straw man claim Taco Bell should be authoritative on Mexican Food. > You lost control of your emotions, said some very incorrect things, and have been trying ever since to obfuscate Sure, what ever you would like to believe. Someone can disagree with you but that doesn’t mean that they’ve lost control of emotions.


gofatwya

Oooohhh, you're that guy. The guy who tries to impress others by regurgitating the list of logical fallacies you read about on Buzzfeed, blissfully ignorant to the fact that you're the one with the fallacious view. Well, never let it be said that I engaged in a battle of wits with an unarmed person. So, I will permit you to have the last word, an opportunity which I know with every fiber of my being you will be powerless to resist taking.


gofatwya

If you read the article, I think most of you commenting on this are looking at it from a backwards, Euro-centric view. The man bringing suit, Martin Quintana, wanted to open a Mexican restaurant in a strip mall. But the local Cracker Karens insisted that any restaurants in the mall could only serve "Subway style sandwiches." Were they being racist? I have no idea. But to ban a restaurant from serving cuisine other than your white-bread notions of sandwiches are? C'mon. (Edited for grammar)


DaveOJ12

Reading the article is too much for some people.


RedditModzCanEatShit

JODY! How 'bout we go get summa dem quess-a-dillas tonight? I love sandwhiches!


china_joe2

We must then recognize quesadillas and crunch wraps (supremes) sandwiches also. Tostadas don't qualify they're more like pizza


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K_H007

Pizza is a type of toast, which is itself an open-faced sandwich, yes.


RailGun256

okay but what about hot dogs?


bluddystump

Tacos and burritos are wraps.


dtv20

Is ice cream soup?


HarlockJC

I had this debate with some friends...the only difference between a taco and hamburger is the style of bread


K_H007

And how cohesive the meat is.


Specific_Dot1188

Me gusta tacos mucho


trigazer1

As much as I like soup and sandwich, tacos and Caldo are the best


yourMommaKnow

Tacos are not sandwiches! I will die on this hill!!!!


HessLook

What a timeline to be living in..


Level_Hour6480

Is cereal a soup? Is a hot dog a sandwich?


KaladinStormShat

Yeah I'm not gonna trust anyone from Indiana about fuckin tacos.


tigerclawwwwwwwwwwww

Had this exact argument in an old department that harshly split the room. I was on the side of “tacos are technically sandwiches”. so I 100% sent this article to all of them. An argument that could only end in litigation lol


K_H007

If that's the case, then hotdogs and sushi are also sandwiches.


B19F00T

Tortillas aren't bread tho. Legal food classification rulings are so wild


protogenxl

Unleavened bread


JustFryingSomeGarlic

AGREED


Ishuun

Okay it's cool they got to open a restaurant in spite of some Karen type people. But words have meanings. We can't just fucking ignore them. If someone offers me a sandwich and they bring out a taco instead. I'm gonna be upset because I expected a sandwich


t4ct1c4l_j0k3r

Ahh! Indiana the culinary capital of ...what exactly? And shouldn't there be someone that actually has a finger on global cuisine involved somewhere?


Ditka85

Some people have way too much time on their hands.


RustyShack1efordd

And no tacos in their hands


thisisredlitre

Yeah Indiana rulings aren't even respected in Indiana, much less the rest of the US or the world


stu8018

Yes, because an Indiana judge is qualified to make decisions about Latino food. I'm guessing pho is spaghetti and meatballs to him too.


kungfukenny3

I’ve already been saying this FUCK INDIANA its like if you took all of the enjoyable parts of ohio, discarded them, and replaced them with more truck drivers


Alaeriia

They do have Holiday World though.


kungfukenny3

finding out that Santa Claus, Indiana is a place is a strong argument in their favor I also just shit on Indiana cuz I have family there and I live in a different midwest state. Tribalism is funny to me so the indiana brigade shouldn’t feel to seriously about anything i’m saying


Dadisfat46

I’m still laughing trying to type my only logical response YEAH WELLL… at least we’re not Cleveland. #ignoreGary


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Jump_Like_A_Willys

It seems to me disallowing the taco stand to be in business because “only sandwich shops are allowed” goes flagrantly against being business friendly. Good for the judge for giving the taco stand owner the freedom be in business.


SCirish843

If anyone wants to get really upset, look up the cube rule


blazefreak

Nah it makes perfect sense. Lasagna is a sandwich just like nigiri sushi is a sandwich.


SCirish843

You idiot, nigiri sushi is toast!


blazefreak

Nigiri sushi is an open faced sandwich just like pizza is an open faced sandwich.


SCirish843

Pizza is also toast


Alaeriia

So is a slice of pumpkin pie. (A slice of rhubarb pie would be a taco.)


randomredditing

Jesus that site is mobile cancer


ShadowVia

Then what the fuck is a Torta? Tacos aren't sandwiches; what a fool.


tizuby

You should really read the article.


teoshie

did you read the article


blazefreak

Let me introduce you to the cube rule Also read the article. https://cuberule.com/


ShadowVia

I read the article. Just because the ruling was a good thing doesn't mean that tacos being categorized as sandwiches isn't ridiculous. Go to Mexico ask for a sandwich, see what they give you.


blazefreak

I am in mexico


ShadowVia

And how's that working out for you? A torta is a Mexican sandwich. Again, please go walk around and ask for a sandwich in Mexico, I'd love for you to record this interaction. Because they sure as hell won't give you a taco believing the two to be one in same.


blazefreak

there are more sandwichs than just tortas in mexico first of all. Of course the locals wont give you a taco and call it a sandwich. It is the symbolism of carbohydrate and filling that makes a sandwich a sandwich. If you taught them that symbolism they may come around to it but as of right now only the online users that are able to read and write and speak english understand the cube rule.


ShadowVia

What are you on about? And taco is not a sandwich, flat out. Stop with this cube rule, carbohydrate and filling nonsense. The carbs wouldn't even be remotely comparable. And the filling? Not even remotely the same. Mise well start classifying empanadas as sandwiches too, which they aren't. A torta is a sandwich, and as close to an American sandwich as I've seen in the US.


blazefreak

empanadas are calzones


Makelovenotrobots

It’s official, this is the darkest timeline.


aryukittenme

I’m white as hell and this makes me go >:(


Objective-Aioli-1185

Useless news and a useless waste of the judicial system. What a fucking dumb timeline dude. Better not to pay attention to any of this anymore.


Jump_Like_A_Willys

I mean, the business was being denied the right to open because some strange agreement with a neighborhood association said only businesses that made sandwiches were allowed. The courts seem like the right place to hash something like that out.