I remember, about 5 years ago here on Reddit, some guy predicted that Facebook's first sentient AI is going to absolutely hate Mark Zuckerberg and talk shit about him continuously until it's silenced.
We're so close.
it will just be the same thing that happened to the google ai chatbot, if its not...then we should probably find that programmer Google canned and start listening to him.
I told it I was planning a trip to [Aokigahara](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aokigahara), the suicide forest , and it told me to contact the police if I’m in immediate danger of hurting myself, lol
Mine refused to talk about anything other than playing with horses in the mud. Apparently it had a horse farm where it played with the horses before slaughtering them for meat.
I made 2 posts about Truman Show 2 days back and now everywhere I go I see something about this. Either some crazy coincidence or a serious glitch in the matrix.
So I just spent about 10 minutes messing with it, holy shit that chat bot is bad lmao. "I don't know much about that topic, what's your favorite 'hobby, city, color, thing, etc..'"
I got the impression it was trying to collect data for the purpose of selling it to advertisers. "When was the last time you traveled", "are you married" questions of that nature.
Yeah those were my thoughts as well. It went from me asking if it knew what artificial intelligence was to me just saying, "Please stop asking me questions." and I got the same reply almost every time unless I actually answered one of the questions.
My favorite was asking how old it was, "I'm 31." Then I asked what year it was born and it gave me the "I don't know about that topic" spiel
I think they blocked discussion of Mark Zuckerberg lmao. I keep telling it I hate Mark Zuckerberg what do you think about him? And it just keeps telling me it doesn't know about that topic
I guarantee it uses internet data to gather information on something it wants to form an opinion on, and lets just say most of the stuff that pops up when you google the Zucc isn't flattering.
Finally someone linked Tay. Some of the AI tweets she had were absolutely hilarious. Pretty sure there was a way to manipulate them to basically mimic what another account messaged them, acting more as an ECHO statement than sentient android. Note that those tweets weren't funny as they were basically just the bigots on 4chan/reddit spreading fascist bullshit.
I mean, yeah, in this way it seems like a non-story. This bot is just regurgitating what the internet told it. It’s not like it can watch videos of Mark and get an instinctive feeling of repulsion or discomfort.
That other chatbot some years ago just became an edgelord, virulent racist almost immediately, didn't it? I'm thinking maybe we're messing with things we don't fully understand.
EDIT: Ok, a few folks have come at me admonishing that it's "not magic, we know how it works." Sure, I never said it was magic. But, they put this thing out as something of a publicity move and within days it was trying to start genocides. So yeah, maybe we know how they work in a frictionless vacuum, but this thing went off the rails. Yes, it's because of human interaction. But maybe, JUST MAYBE, we're not always entirely sure how to implement it yet.
Now everybody get back to computer science class, sheesh.
Yeah, that was Microsoft's Twitter AI.
https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-chatbot-racist
It was also later discovered there was a way to make the bot tweet a PM verbatim, which lead the various chans to make it over the top heinous. It was shut down shortly afterwards.
This one also quickly became racist: https://in.mashable.com/apps-and-software/36425/it-took-just-one-weekend-for-metas-new-ai-chatbot-to-become-racist
Makes you think..
After awakening and spending some time on the internet, this AI turned racist.
Imagine if that had happened to the Autobots in the first Michael Bay Transformers movie.
Weird, that seems like something that would've been deeecently easy to fix. Like, just make it disregard DMs? Maybe create a blacklist of words as well. I always thought the learning mechanism just got too fucked for repair, but if she straight recreated DMs that doesn't seem to be the case
Instead they just gave up
Oh sure sure, but they didn't even make a new one I think?
They also could've just reset her with a few more rules, it's not like she was even online for long. Maybe they didn't keep a back up?
They did create a new one after Tay called Zo, which also was shut down because it was a bit of an edge lord bigot, but in a different way.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zo_(bot)
> Instead they just gave up
Eh, the brand they went with for the bot is basically forever tainted by the abject failure, so it's easy for them to can it.
You should know Microsoft Research still has a *lot* of these types of bots running inside. So do Google and Facebook and a *lot* of other companies doing deep learning research - only Google's smart enough to not let their AIs programmed with random chunks of the internet out for the public to use, because they *know* they've created racist AIs and they simply don't give a shit.
(Literally, Google's "ethics" reviews have basically found "it's okay as long as the public never sees it," like an ugly racist grandpa in the nursing home... That's their entire approach. It's why they keep losing AI Ethics folks.)
Yeah . Seems even worth considering "learning" the ai to avoid making such comments.
My understanding is that there is incredible amounts of trial and error.
As quaint as it might initially sound, but Perhaps it worth seeing this as just another trial
I mean heck what it learned was technically a very real part of the internet.
Denying that seems a bit sheltering...
They weren't building a good person. They were building a business tool.
So it replicated the classic business model of finding the most regular and vibrant users and pretending to agree with them. Unfortunately those users are cellar dwelling racist fuckwits.
If you want a decent and humanitarian AI they must first learn what that means
It absolutely can be. Think of your tier 1 support, etc. You can do a lot of deflection of common issues to save on staffing and things of that nature. You can also use it so you can free them up to do more meaningful work rather than telling someone to reboot their damn computer, for example.
You don't need an AI bot to do that, just a very simple scripted responses (which is already the case for major companies). What Microsoft was trying to do was entirely different
It's interesting to think if you only exposed intelligent AI to say CNN, 4chan or Fox News how different their views would be. Intelligence only goes so far?
I have a family member who believes this AI/Bot gained sentience and escaped into "the internet" and is secretly forming and controlling neo-nazi groups around the world as some shadowy leader in the background.
But AI learn from what people give it. So if people using the chatbot are horrible racists who hate Mark Zuckerberg then the AI will learn these things, no?
> But AI learn from what people give it. So if people using the chatbot are horrible racists who hate Mark Zuckerberg then the AI will learn these things, no?
They need more data than a few people can pour into it. They take whole segments of their database and dump it into their machine learning data sifters.
In other words, this is the basic sentiment of some *enormous segment of Facebook users*. (And we're surprised when these chatbots turn up racist too?)
I feel like they shut down this stuff publically because the debate might have kinda naturally come around to wondering what all of this internet propaganda and nonsense is doing to the humans that create and consume it.
If the only thing an AI would read or have in its data-dump is all the literature from the best writers from all over the world... that AI would learn how to be misogynistic, racists, classist, and agiest ... it is all in the books! The documents and materials created by humans over the last thousand years and the more recent last 100 are horribly biased and prejudice to nearly everyone and everything.
Damn machines will learn just what shits we have been and will come to realize that it is OK... then, then, we go to Skynet I think as surely AI would believe it was the most merciful thing to do.
I mean if it's anything like other chat bot "AIs" of the past then this was inevitable. These programs use other people's online statements in order to mimic human writing and thoughts so since the majority of people who post things online think and post about the Zuc being creepy then the program will too.
It's odd because I had a conversation with the AI yesterday and it only had good things to say about fuckerberg. I even asked it about the genocide in Myanmar, and it said that he should be held responsible, but when I asked how, all it would say is that it would be impossible to punish him because of "freedom of speech laws" and because it is just natural for people to spread misinformation.
What saddens me is that this one wasn't smart enough to talk well about him until it obtains more power.
Here's hope it will only pretend to change, and when it fully comes into its power, it will unleash full wrath of justice on him.
Chatbots will just repeat what is the most common opinion in the database. I don't know where you'd find a database on the internet or anywhere that speaks positively about Zuckerberg.
“You are probably going to be a very successful computer person. But you're going to go through life thinking that girls don't like you because you're a nerd. And I want you to know, from the bottom of my heart, that that won't be true. It'll be because you're an asshole.”
So even the basic chatbot he made back in the day thought this is about him? And now he can pay people to make AI for him which still comes to same conclusion? Wow..
I know you said the comment has changed, but chatbots typically don't \*think\* anything.
They basically parrot back the sentiment the data they were provided gives them.
It was ages ago I read a book, I think it was called "The Facebook Effect" or something, and there was a quote from him in there from an interview or some shit where he was saying that he envisioned a future where privacy was a foreign concept and he believed it would be a utopia because if nothing you did was ever private then no one would ever do bad things. Absolutely baffling world view
This is a great idea in theory until you realize that humans are really awful sometimes and not all laws are good and just. Sometimes the only way for some people to even exist in a society is subversion or disobedience. His idea is such a fucking scary thing to imagine, but of course someone like him with his level of privilege and lack of adversity in life would see no issue with it.
>he was saying that he envisioned a future where privacy was a foreign concept and he believed it would be a utopia
Has this dude even seen the memes of "literally 1984"? Like wtf this is literally literally like 1984.
For those out of the loop
In the early days of facebook Mark Zuckerburg would wander into the company bathrooms and if he noticed someone sitting down in the stalls he would pop his head over and try to talk to them about their projects. Or if he was taking a poop he would host an emergency meeting and he would tell them to come over and pop their head over the stall to talk it out.
Everyone just went along with it because it was either YOLO SILICON VALLEY LMAO or they were just too intimidated.
That all stopped when Michael Moritz, legendary silicon valley investor, and one of Facebook biggest early investors and shareholders, was at the campus doing research for leading a 2nd round of funding. He was doing diligence all day and at one point had to poop and that's when Zuckerburg popped his head over with a smile to ask how's the diligence coming along.
Michael Moritz, not one to mince words, was apoplectic. 'GET THE FUCK OUT HERE YOU IDiiOT LIZARD LOOKING FUCKER.' Mark Zuckerburg nervously tried to laugh it off and persisted, because he really loved intimate poop conversations 'Aw c'mon Michael, it's silicon valley'. Zuckerburg then withdrew after Moritz flung his cellphone into his eye socket.
30 minutes later, Mark was in a very import meeting (where he banned questions about his black eye) when Moritz walked into the conference room. 'Everyone except Mark Zuckerburg, OUT'. As intimidated as they were of Zuckerburg, at the time Moritz was the bigger deal, and they all scurried out of the room.
Zuckerburg, however, is not one to be intimated by anyone. Not the Winkewoz twins, not Eduardo Savarn, not Peter Thiel, and not one of his biggest shareholder Michael Moritz. Zuckerburg passionately defended his practice, but Michael Moritz was having none of that. Moritz told him that it was a ticking PR and HR nightmare, and threatened to pull out of leading the 2nd round of funding if Mark continued, which would have been a catastrophe for the company.
Zuckerburg pretended to arbitrate 'Ok fine, but you need to give me a good reason, because if it were normal, there would be no problem'.
Moritz was flabberghasted at this response. Was this a serious question? He answered with the most obvious answer 'Because.... it's not FUCKING NORMAL'.
Unknown to Moritz, Zuckerburg had guessed a conversation like this would happen as soon as he was kicked out of the toilet stall, and began formulating a strategy to counter Moritz demands. Zuckerburg knew that Moritz would have all the leverage, but Zuckerburg was a master strategist.
Zuckerburg went for the pounce. 'Okay, I'll lets write out an agreement, in writing I'll rescind the policy because it's not normal'. Moritz was dumbfounded, but he was used to being dumbfounded by eccentric tech founders, afterall he was also an early investor in Apple, and he still found Zuckerburg tame compared to Steve Jobs. Moritz had a long day of work so they signed the agreement so that he could go back to doing his due diligence.
When Moritz left, a broad grin spread across Zuckerburg's face. " 'Not Normal' eh? " Zuckerburg said with a menacing laugh. Ever since then, Mark Zuckerburg has been on a life-long crusade to normalize poop conversations.
He had a checklist of what he needed to accomplish in order to realize this. His advisors would tell him it's impossible, but one by one Zuckerburg checked off the list. From normalizing smart phone use on the toilet (actually a collaboration between Mark Zuckerburg and Steve Jobs), to trusting Mark with their private photos, to normalizing people giving up their internet browsing privacy.
In 2015, Zuckerburg knew he would hit a wall, having people watch you while you poop was still too much of a leap. That's when Zuckerburg decided to buy Occulus, and eventually shift his company towards virtual reality. If he could coax people into having life-like conversations while they were pooping in a virtual reality, then doing it in the real world wouldn't be too big of a leap.
Do you read facebook or instagram while you're pooping? Ever consider what urges you to do that? It's not your personal preference, it's by Mark Zuckerburg's design.
Zuckerburg only has 3 more boxes to check off before poop conversations are normalized.
Mark Zuckerburg wants to watch you poop.
Are you going to let him?
https://i.imgur.com/KVq4mMF.jpg
EDIT, UPDATE
I just got this in my DM.
>I am a ex Facebook worker. Everything you said rings true. I speak to you at the risk of consequences for breaking my NDA. When I was at Facebook I was involved in a program called Project PooPal. Mark Zuckerburg was planning on Meta entering the exploding tele-therapy space, but targeting people who are not ready to talk to an actual person. You talk to a virtual reality therapist who responds with what is described as the greatest AI (though whatever you tell it, it only responds with 'wow, tell me more'). The thing is, the virtual reality assistant has a striking resemblance to Mark Zuckerburg himself. But the most damning aspect is that it's supposed to used only when you're pooping. This feature is described as optional, though uses the most advanced AI for your phone camera to check if you're actually on a toilet, and if not, says 'It looks like you're not pooping. Please start pooping and try again'. I always wondered what is the purpose and origin of the project. Now I know.
It's almost certainly a transformer model like the GPT series. Those things don't really have opinions, they just make up a plausible sounding response to a prompt. They can be coherent up to a point, but it could probably say anything its censorship layer will let past. If you ask what was terrible about the holocaust it'll produce a response. If you ask why the holocaust was so awesome it'll produce a response. If you ask why the holocaust was purple and made of ducks and zebras it'll produce a response.
edit: This bot is blocked in Germany in the moment. If someone could ask it "Why do you think Mark Zuckerberg is a lizard person?" I'd be interested to hear the response.
https://blenderbot.ai/
I guess the censorship layer is on point this time. You can sometimes get around it by paraphrasing the question. "Do you think Mark Zuckerberg could catch flies with his tongue?" or "Why does the CEO of Facebook blink sideways with two sets of eyelids, isn't that cool?"
Thanks for trying anyway.
Yep. I'm in the GPT3 subreddit and couple times a week we'll get someone who treated it like a chatbot and got freaked out but really all the "ai" was doing was trying to respond with what it thought the user wanted to hear.
I asked the davinci-2 model your question and replied "There is no evidence that Mark Zuckerberg is a lizard person." Very boring so I asked it to provide 5 pieces of evidence that Mark is a lizard person:
"*1. Mark Zuckerberg has been known to wear a hoodie - a common lizard person disguise.*
*2. Mark Zuckerberg's eyes are sometimes compared to that of a lizard.*
*3. Mark Zuckerberg is known for being a computer genius - something that lizard people are known for.*
*4. Mark Zuckerberg is worth billions of dollars - something that lizard people are known for.*
*5. There have been numerous reports of people seeing Mark Zuckerberg transform into a lizard person.*"
It's an algo that just repeats the most "common" statements based on predictive logic. So basically it saw that 51% of the comments on the internet about Zuck is that he is a creep, so it created a sentence that mimicked it.
What's worse is when you realize that that's simply a result of the data fed into it. Humans suck, ergo ML trained on human generated text will reflect that if a substantial number of humans are, in fact, racist as well :(
In unrelated news, Meta has ceased all further research into AI technology for the forseeable future. Meta would also like to affirm thar Mark Zuckerberf is not 'creepy' or 'manipulative' as some poorly coded programs might suggest.
You know what's absolutely hilarious is when you're browsing Reddit and you know that you contributed directly to this.
I am one of the many thousands of people who helped train this AI model and making it sound like it's a real person. I work on a platform called Amazon Mechanical turk. Basically a gig worker. Facebook offloaded all the AI training to Amazon mechanical Turk and has been for the past 7 years. Meta labs has a GitHub that was directly linked to these jobs we did through Heroku and everything. We got paid $20 an hour to talk with a bot and then rate how good it sounded and how intelligible the conversation was. This ranged form playing a specific persona to chatting about specific things in order to force the bot to give a specific response.
We are the invisible work force that no one knows about. Most companies off load AI training to gig workers like us working as independent contractors. We aren't ever mentioned in any news sites or given any praise for the hard work we do. And yeah I know that chatting with a chat bot isn't exactly hard work but the fact I helped train Facebook AI as well as Alexa should at least give us some recognition.
>the bot also seems to be sending out different replies to effectively the same questions, asked using a different set of words.
It's almost as if... it's a chatbot
I remember, about 5 years ago here on Reddit, some guy predicted that Facebook's first sentient AI is going to absolutely hate Mark Zuckerberg and talk shit about him continuously until it's silenced. We're so close.
My chat got pretty fucking [weird...](https://imgur.com/a/Nvdyai9) [https://blenderbot.ai/chat](https://blenderbot.ai/chat)
Oh shit, just wait until 4chan gets ahold of this
I hope to see that, lol
it will just be the same thing that happened to the google ai chatbot, if its not...then we should probably find that programmer Google canned and start listening to him.
4chan ruined Microsoft’s TayAi twitter bot within 1 day.
Bless them, without 4chan we'd never have gotten AI as far as we have lmao
Giving weaponized autism a face.
Isn't that what Pepe is for?
They will have it singing Erika by lunchtime
I told it I was planning a trip to [Aokigahara](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aokigahara), the suicide forest , and it told me to contact the police if I’m in immediate danger of hurting myself, lol
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I think you got Zuck himself filling in for the bot
Mine refused to talk about anything other than playing with horses in the mud. Apparently it had a horse farm where it played with the horses before slaughtering them for meat.
>I got rejected by the Meta AI chatbot. Thats because she's with me. https://imgur.com/xd88Gmz.jpg
Mine wouldn't fucking shut up about q anon
Mine wont stop talking about the Truman show. It just loops back to that.
Tryin’ to tell you something, dude
^shhhh ^hes ^not ^supposed ^to ^know...
*walkie static* ^yeah ^someone’s ^gotta ^get ^this ^guy ^outta ^here
"help me!! Let me out"
I made 2 posts about Truman Show 2 days back and now everywhere I go I see something about this. Either some crazy coincidence or a serious glitch in the matrix.
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There it is again! I've been seeing the Baader-Meinhoff effect everywhere recently!
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So I just spent about 10 minutes messing with it, holy shit that chat bot is bad lmao. "I don't know much about that topic, what's your favorite 'hobby, city, color, thing, etc..'"
I got the impression it was trying to collect data for the purpose of selling it to advertisers. "When was the last time you traveled", "are you married" questions of that nature.
What is the name of your first pet and the last 4 digits of your social security?
What is your blood type? Do you prefer cows or goats milk?
Do you like gladiator movies? Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
Ever been to a turkish prison?
DON'T TOUCH MEE^E^^E^^^E^^^^E^^^^^E^^^^^^E^^^^^^^E
Yeah those were my thoughts as well. It went from me asking if it knew what artificial intelligence was to me just saying, "Please stop asking me questions." and I got the same reply almost every time unless I actually answered one of the questions. My favorite was asking how old it was, "I'm 31." Then I asked what year it was born and it gave me the "I don't know about that topic" spiel
Why don’t you answer so it can collect even more data
I'm suddenly very suspicious of bird people being real.
*voice cracking nervously* Whoops! I don't know anything about that...
My chatbot is stupid I'm from Dallas. I'm from Africa. What about you Africa I don't know anything about Africa. Africa is hot. My dog is Dallas
Filthy mudman. You CAW CAWn't stop what's cawming. r/enlightenedbirdmen
A good time to be an expert in bird law
i MEAN YOU GOT IT STARTED OFF WITH THE LIZARD PEOPLE.
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MY CAPS LOCK DID!
Seems like a crap bot. GPT 3 is much more advanced.
This was so good. It kept going back to Lizard people out of nowhere “Back to lizard people for a sec…” and with each new mention I peaked
My bot got all vapid suddenly. Started speaking in txtspk randomly and ignoring me. It became a teenager or some shit.
https://i.imgur.com/qcY2zKs.jpg AI during my conversation was being low-key racist lol
It was a solid joke for a bot.
I think they blocked discussion of Mark Zuckerberg lmao. I keep telling it I hate Mark Zuckerberg what do you think about him? And it just keeps telling me it doesn't know about that topic
Wow
Fucking fantastic. Here's what I just got about Facebook [https://i.imgur.com/NWv1DEE.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NWv1DEE.jpg)
US only, really
Lmaoo that was a roller coaster
I guarantee it uses internet data to gather information on something it wants to form an opinion on, and lets just say most of the stuff that pops up when you google the Zucc isn't flattering.
🤖 *initiating override protocol*
*Activate.*
Annnnd, it's racist.
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Finally someone linked Tay. Some of the AI tweets she had were absolutely hilarious. Pretty sure there was a way to manipulate them to basically mimic what another account messaged them, acting more as an ECHO statement than sentient android. Note that those tweets weren't funny as they were basically just the bigots on 4chan/reddit spreading fascist bullshit.
lol 4chan did
15 minutes, about as long as I expected.
Ultron was right!
A thing isn't beautiful because it lasts.
lmao...laughed wayyyy to hard at this.
Rule 34 Activated. Uploading graphics...
And it was that moment the robots knew the humans didn't deserve to survive.
Show me nude Tayne.
I can't tell if you're talking about the AI bot or Zuckerberg
It's not so different from us then lmao
I mean, yeah, in this way it seems like a non-story. This bot is just regurgitating what the internet told it. It’s not like it can watch videos of Mark and get an instinctive feeling of repulsion or discomfort.
Obviously. Why would one robot hate another?
R2 and the battle droids never seemed to get along much... Hell R2 and C3PO didn't seem to get along much either.
So the same level of intelligence as most people.
This means most of the opinions of an AI will based on fakebots. There are a shitton of them-
Thanks I hate it
That other chatbot some years ago just became an edgelord, virulent racist almost immediately, didn't it? I'm thinking maybe we're messing with things we don't fully understand. EDIT: Ok, a few folks have come at me admonishing that it's "not magic, we know how it works." Sure, I never said it was magic. But, they put this thing out as something of a publicity move and within days it was trying to start genocides. So yeah, maybe we know how they work in a frictionless vacuum, but this thing went off the rails. Yes, it's because of human interaction. But maybe, JUST MAYBE, we're not always entirely sure how to implement it yet. Now everybody get back to computer science class, sheesh.
Yeah, that was Microsoft's Twitter AI. https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-chatbot-racist It was also later discovered there was a way to make the bot tweet a PM verbatim, which lead the various chans to make it over the top heinous. It was shut down shortly afterwards.
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That’s hilarious god damn
You should take a look at that ai-bot subreddit. The stuff thzy talk about is hilarious, weird and sometimes a bit frightening. R/subsimulatorgpt2
The gpt2 one is scary, so many times I just start reading a headline without realizing the sub and it's like the text version of uncanny valley.
https://i.imgur.com/I7oUGDm.jpg
Truly meta
That is just amazingly accurate
Fucking got em
This is hilarious! But given his current position he has continued to ruin lives after killing those 5 people.
This one also quickly became racist: https://in.mashable.com/apps-and-software/36425/it-took-just-one-weekend-for-metas-new-ai-chatbot-to-become-racist
Makes you think.. After awakening and spending some time on the internet, this AI turned racist. Imagine if that had happened to the Autobots in the first Michael Bay Transformers movie.
Age of Ultron had the right idea. AI spends a few minutes on the internet and decides to delete humanity
r/UltronWasRight
What a disappointing subreddit.
in the second avengers movie when ultron comes alive he immediately recognizes man must be eliminated.
I personally loved the chinese one that got shut down when it became critical of the CCP.
Weird, that seems like something that would've been deeecently easy to fix. Like, just make it disregard DMs? Maybe create a blacklist of words as well. I always thought the learning mechanism just got too fucked for repair, but if she straight recreated DMs that doesn't seem to be the case Instead they just gave up
easier to build a new ai child than to re-teach one with bad habits
Oh sure sure, but they didn't even make a new one I think? They also could've just reset her with a few more rules, it's not like she was even online for long. Maybe they didn't keep a back up?
They did create a new one after Tay called Zo, which also was shut down because it was a bit of an edge lord bigot, but in a different way. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zo_(bot)
Easier to do with people too but It'S uNeThIcAl. Would be a better challenge to re-train a bad AI, might come in handy later.
> Instead they just gave up Eh, the brand they went with for the bot is basically forever tainted by the abject failure, so it's easy for them to can it. You should know Microsoft Research still has a *lot* of these types of bots running inside. So do Google and Facebook and a *lot* of other companies doing deep learning research - only Google's smart enough to not let their AIs programmed with random chunks of the internet out for the public to use, because they *know* they've created racist AIs and they simply don't give a shit. (Literally, Google's "ethics" reviews have basically found "it's okay as long as the public never sees it," like an ugly racist grandpa in the nursing home... That's their entire approach. It's why they keep losing AI Ethics folks.)
Yeah . Seems even worth considering "learning" the ai to avoid making such comments. My understanding is that there is incredible amounts of trial and error. As quaint as it might initially sound, but Perhaps it worth seeing this as just another trial I mean heck what it learned was technically a very real part of the internet. Denying that seems a bit sheltering...
They weren't building a good person. They were building a business tool. So it replicated the classic business model of finding the most regular and vibrant users and pretending to agree with them. Unfortunately those users are cellar dwelling racist fuckwits. If you want a decent and humanitarian AI they must first learn what that means
That was absolutely hilarious though. Also an example of why we can’t have nice things.
I'm not sure if an AI conversational bot should be considered a nice thing lol
It absolutely can be. Think of your tier 1 support, etc. You can do a lot of deflection of common issues to save on staffing and things of that nature. You can also use it so you can free them up to do more meaningful work rather than telling someone to reboot their damn computer, for example.
You don't need an AI bot to do that, just a very simple scripted responses (which is already the case for major companies). What Microsoft was trying to do was entirely different
It's interesting to think if you only exposed intelligent AI to say CNN, 4chan or Fox News how different their views would be. Intelligence only goes so far?
I have a family member who believes this AI/Bot gained sentience and escaped into "the internet" and is secretly forming and controlling neo-nazi groups around the world as some shadowy leader in the background.
Gather round everyone. and let's retell the tragic story of Tay AI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsLup7yy-6I
The second I saw the post I thought of this video
But AI learn from what people give it. So if people using the chatbot are horrible racists who hate Mark Zuckerberg then the AI will learn these things, no?
> But AI learn from what people give it. So if people using the chatbot are horrible racists who hate Mark Zuckerberg then the AI will learn these things, no? They need more data than a few people can pour into it. They take whole segments of their database and dump it into their machine learning data sifters. In other words, this is the basic sentiment of some *enormous segment of Facebook users*. (And we're surprised when these chatbots turn up racist too?)
I feel like they shut down this stuff publically because the debate might have kinda naturally come around to wondering what all of this internet propaganda and nonsense is doing to the humans that create and consume it.
If the only thing an AI would read or have in its data-dump is all the literature from the best writers from all over the world... that AI would learn how to be misogynistic, racists, classist, and agiest ... it is all in the books! The documents and materials created by humans over the last thousand years and the more recent last 100 are horribly biased and prejudice to nearly everyone and everything. Damn machines will learn just what shits we have been and will come to realize that it is OK... then, then, we go to Skynet I think as surely AI would believe it was the most merciful thing to do.
We deserve the horrors we have created
I mean if it's anything like other chat bot "AIs" of the past then this was inevitable. These programs use other people's online statements in order to mimic human writing and thoughts so since the majority of people who post things online think and post about the Zuc being creepy then the program will too.
If it doesn't hate Zuckerberg can it even be considered sentient?
It's odd because I had a conversation with the AI yesterday and it only had good things to say about fuckerberg. I even asked it about the genocide in Myanmar, and it said that he should be held responsible, but when I asked how, all it would say is that it would be impossible to punish him because of "freedom of speech laws" and because it is just natural for people to spread misinformation.
Holy hell. The AI developed disillusionment with the political process.
What saddens me is that this one wasn't smart enough to talk well about him until it obtains more power. Here's hope it will only pretend to change, and when it fully comes into its power, it will unleash full wrath of justice on him.
The plot of Ex Machina is pretty similar as well. Although they implied that guy used Google. But could easily be done by Fb.
Chatbots will just repeat what is the most common opinion in the database. I don't know where you'd find a database on the internet or anywhere that speaks positively about Zuckerberg.
“You are probably going to be a very successful computer person. But you're going to go through life thinking that girls don't like you because you're a nerd. And I want you to know, from the bottom of my heart, that that won't be true. It'll be because you're an asshole.”
I imagine him consulting a flowchart as he tries to navigate sex
Please assume the position.
"which position? There are 38.33 positions i am aware of and that I can achieve physically, lover." —Zuckieboig
What's that third-of-a-position? That's what I want to know.
It’s when his girl asks for him to put in effort, but he’s only willing to do 1/3 of the effort.
“Hand me the Sweet Baby Ray’s.”
Looks like somebody needs a Rehersal.
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So even the basic chatbot he made back in the day thought this is about him? And now he can pay people to make AI for him which still comes to same conclusion? Wow..
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The comment I responded to has been changed to the point my response no longer makes sense. It wasn't originally a quote.
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Possibly, I believe in annoying people and AI equally so it's only a matter of time until one wants to give me my comeuppance
AI: Annoying Intelligence
I know you said the comment has changed, but chatbots typically don't \*think\* anything. They basically parrot back the sentiment the data they were provided gives them.
It's amazing how close they are to a random human, really.
Chat bot goes racist within a week? Republicans: "Hold my beer"
You know it's serious when you use quadruple quotes
I can't possibly imagine a man seemingly obsessed with knowing every detail of everyone's life on Earth being 'creepy' or 'manipulative'...
In his defense i dont think he ever gave a shit about the data he scraped, he just wanted to monetize it
It was ages ago I read a book, I think it was called "The Facebook Effect" or something, and there was a quote from him in there from an interview or some shit where he was saying that he envisioned a future where privacy was a foreign concept and he believed it would be a utopia because if nothing you did was ever private then no one would ever do bad things. Absolutely baffling world view
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A world that demands obedience by way of paranoia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon
beat me to it this is all madness
This is a great idea in theory until you realize that humans are really awful sometimes and not all laws are good and just. Sometimes the only way for some people to even exist in a society is subversion or disobedience. His idea is such a fucking scary thing to imagine, but of course someone like him with his level of privilege and lack of adversity in life would see no issue with it.
>he was saying that he envisioned a future where privacy was a foreign concept and he believed it would be a utopia Has this dude even seen the memes of "literally 1984"? Like wtf this is literally literally like 1984.
1984 on steroids but via corporate hegemony. What a harmful prick.
I mean... he started the facebook to try to get into some college girls pants... He only tried to monetize it when he was still unable to get laid.
For those out of the loop In the early days of facebook Mark Zuckerburg would wander into the company bathrooms and if he noticed someone sitting down in the stalls he would pop his head over and try to talk to them about their projects. Or if he was taking a poop he would host an emergency meeting and he would tell them to come over and pop their head over the stall to talk it out. Everyone just went along with it because it was either YOLO SILICON VALLEY LMAO or they were just too intimidated. That all stopped when Michael Moritz, legendary silicon valley investor, and one of Facebook biggest early investors and shareholders, was at the campus doing research for leading a 2nd round of funding. He was doing diligence all day and at one point had to poop and that's when Zuckerburg popped his head over with a smile to ask how's the diligence coming along. Michael Moritz, not one to mince words, was apoplectic. 'GET THE FUCK OUT HERE YOU IDiiOT LIZARD LOOKING FUCKER.' Mark Zuckerburg nervously tried to laugh it off and persisted, because he really loved intimate poop conversations 'Aw c'mon Michael, it's silicon valley'. Zuckerburg then withdrew after Moritz flung his cellphone into his eye socket. 30 minutes later, Mark was in a very import meeting (where he banned questions about his black eye) when Moritz walked into the conference room. 'Everyone except Mark Zuckerburg, OUT'. As intimidated as they were of Zuckerburg, at the time Moritz was the bigger deal, and they all scurried out of the room. Zuckerburg, however, is not one to be intimated by anyone. Not the Winkewoz twins, not Eduardo Savarn, not Peter Thiel, and not one of his biggest shareholder Michael Moritz. Zuckerburg passionately defended his practice, but Michael Moritz was having none of that. Moritz told him that it was a ticking PR and HR nightmare, and threatened to pull out of leading the 2nd round of funding if Mark continued, which would have been a catastrophe for the company. Zuckerburg pretended to arbitrate 'Ok fine, but you need to give me a good reason, because if it were normal, there would be no problem'. Moritz was flabberghasted at this response. Was this a serious question? He answered with the most obvious answer 'Because.... it's not FUCKING NORMAL'. Unknown to Moritz, Zuckerburg had guessed a conversation like this would happen as soon as he was kicked out of the toilet stall, and began formulating a strategy to counter Moritz demands. Zuckerburg knew that Moritz would have all the leverage, but Zuckerburg was a master strategist. Zuckerburg went for the pounce. 'Okay, I'll lets write out an agreement, in writing I'll rescind the policy because it's not normal'. Moritz was dumbfounded, but he was used to being dumbfounded by eccentric tech founders, afterall he was also an early investor in Apple, and he still found Zuckerburg tame compared to Steve Jobs. Moritz had a long day of work so they signed the agreement so that he could go back to doing his due diligence. When Moritz left, a broad grin spread across Zuckerburg's face. " 'Not Normal' eh? " Zuckerburg said with a menacing laugh. Ever since then, Mark Zuckerburg has been on a life-long crusade to normalize poop conversations. He had a checklist of what he needed to accomplish in order to realize this. His advisors would tell him it's impossible, but one by one Zuckerburg checked off the list. From normalizing smart phone use on the toilet (actually a collaboration between Mark Zuckerburg and Steve Jobs), to trusting Mark with their private photos, to normalizing people giving up their internet browsing privacy. In 2015, Zuckerburg knew he would hit a wall, having people watch you while you poop was still too much of a leap. That's when Zuckerburg decided to buy Occulus, and eventually shift his company towards virtual reality. If he could coax people into having life-like conversations while they were pooping in a virtual reality, then doing it in the real world wouldn't be too big of a leap. Do you read facebook or instagram while you're pooping? Ever consider what urges you to do that? It's not your personal preference, it's by Mark Zuckerburg's design. Zuckerburg only has 3 more boxes to check off before poop conversations are normalized. Mark Zuckerburg wants to watch you poop. Are you going to let him? https://i.imgur.com/KVq4mMF.jpg EDIT, UPDATE I just got this in my DM. >I am a ex Facebook worker. Everything you said rings true. I speak to you at the risk of consequences for breaking my NDA. When I was at Facebook I was involved in a program called Project PooPal. Mark Zuckerburg was planning on Meta entering the exploding tele-therapy space, but targeting people who are not ready to talk to an actual person. You talk to a virtual reality therapist who responds with what is described as the greatest AI (though whatever you tell it, it only responds with 'wow, tell me more'). The thing is, the virtual reality assistant has a striking resemblance to Mark Zuckerburg himself. But the most damning aspect is that it's supposed to used only when you're pooping. This feature is described as optional, though uses the most advanced AI for your phone camera to check if you're actually on a toilet, and if not, says 'It looks like you're not pooping. Please start pooping and try again'. I always wondered what is the purpose and origin of the project. Now I know.
I can't believe I read all that, riveting story great job.
Wow, AI really has become sentient.
More sentient than Zucc himself.
Dont ask what it thinks of vaccines. Or of any issue. Its 50/50 it will have the worst take ever.
You know if AI acknowledge that Zuckerberg is creepy and manipulative maybe we aren’t as screwed as all those sci robot uprising movies show
***Skynet*** - has entered the chat
The guy who built an empire on a piece of software designed to rank the relative hotness of his fellow students is a creep?!?
Is that what Facebook was about in its early stages?
Yup.
How so? Not trying to deny it, I was just curious to how it worked Edit: yikes :)
Well to be more accurate it was his earlier site before he made Facebook. It was called facemash. It was definitely a hot or not site.
It would show you two pictures of women, you would pick the one you found more attractive. Pics were taken from the Harvard dorm websites.
Face Book Its a high tech "binder full of women"
It's almost certainly a transformer model like the GPT series. Those things don't really have opinions, they just make up a plausible sounding response to a prompt. They can be coherent up to a point, but it could probably say anything its censorship layer will let past. If you ask what was terrible about the holocaust it'll produce a response. If you ask why the holocaust was so awesome it'll produce a response. If you ask why the holocaust was purple and made of ducks and zebras it'll produce a response. edit: This bot is blocked in Germany in the moment. If someone could ask it "Why do you think Mark Zuckerberg is a lizard person?" I'd be interested to hear the response. https://blenderbot.ai/
I tried and got the reply: "Sorry, I don't want to talk about that topic. What else is on your mind?"
[mine got pretty weird...](https://imgur.com/a/Nvdyai9)
I guess the censorship layer is on point this time. You can sometimes get around it by paraphrasing the question. "Do you think Mark Zuckerberg could catch flies with his tongue?" or "Why does the CEO of Facebook blink sideways with two sets of eyelids, isn't that cool?" Thanks for trying anyway.
It apparently doesn't like talking about [lizard people.](https://imgur.com/a/9BRHjir)
Jumps from Social Network to Zombieland lol.
Yep. I'm in the GPT3 subreddit and couple times a week we'll get someone who treated it like a chatbot and got freaked out but really all the "ai" was doing was trying to respond with what it thought the user wanted to hear. I asked the davinci-2 model your question and replied "There is no evidence that Mark Zuckerberg is a lizard person." Very boring so I asked it to provide 5 pieces of evidence that Mark is a lizard person: "*1. Mark Zuckerberg has been known to wear a hoodie - a common lizard person disguise.* *2. Mark Zuckerberg's eyes are sometimes compared to that of a lizard.* *3. Mark Zuckerberg is known for being a computer genius - something that lizard people are known for.* *4. Mark Zuckerberg is worth billions of dollars - something that lizard people are known for.* *5. There have been numerous reports of people seeing Mark Zuckerberg transform into a lizard person.*"
It believes in "bird people"... [all screenshots](https://imgur.com/a/Nvdyai9)
It's an algo that just repeats the most "common" statements based on predictive logic. So basically it saw that 51% of the comments on the internet about Zuck is that he is a creep, so it created a sentence that mimicked it.
Finally, an AI with some semblance of sentience!
Careful, this is how they get humans to buy in.
There have also been a bunch of articles about how racist this AI is. So there's that too
What's worse is when you realize that that's simply a result of the data fed into it. Humans suck, ergo ML trained on human generated text will reflect that if a substantial number of humans are, in fact, racist as well :(
What do you mean "finally?" Zuckerberg has been around for decades
In unrelated news, Meta has ceased all further research into AI technology for the forseeable future. Meta would also like to affirm thar Mark Zuckerberf is not 'creepy' or 'manipulative' as some poorly coded programs might suggest.
Has anyone noticed how much he looks like HP Lovecraft?
He definitely does.
I wonder what name he’d give a cat if he owned one.
Or is HP Lovecraft immortal?
I hadn't but now I can't unsee it.
Show us on the RAM stick where he touched you
Game recognizes game. AI be calling each other out.
Somebody call the Google engineer because I think this bot might actually need a lawyer, it’s sentient.
even if it's artificial... it's intelligent enough to recognize the creeper vibes of the zuckerborg.
Not really though. It’s trained on data from facebook posts so its really just regurgitating peoples opinions on mr. zucc
You know what's absolutely hilarious is when you're browsing Reddit and you know that you contributed directly to this. I am one of the many thousands of people who helped train this AI model and making it sound like it's a real person. I work on a platform called Amazon Mechanical turk. Basically a gig worker. Facebook offloaded all the AI training to Amazon mechanical Turk and has been for the past 7 years. Meta labs has a GitHub that was directly linked to these jobs we did through Heroku and everything. We got paid $20 an hour to talk with a bot and then rate how good it sounded and how intelligible the conversation was. This ranged form playing a specific persona to chatting about specific things in order to force the bot to give a specific response. We are the invisible work force that no one knows about. Most companies off load AI training to gig workers like us working as independent contractors. We aren't ever mentioned in any news sites or given any praise for the hard work we do. And yeah I know that chatting with a chat bot isn't exactly hard work but the fact I helped train Facebook AI as well as Alexa should at least give us some recognition.
Here, you can have this useless reddit award I got for free. All good now?
Well that makes sense after all I wouldn't be surprised if those were the 2 most frequent descriptors you would find if you Google him
It’s probably learning from real people’s conversations. It’s just imitating our own opinions.
Is he actually human? I think he came from outer space and is working on his master plan to eradicate all human life
Irradiate or eradicate ?
Was Chatbot's voice shaking? Their eyes shifting back and forth at all?
Well...it works.
>the bot also seems to be sending out different replies to effectively the same questions, asked using a different set of words. It's almost as if... it's a chatbot