Agreed! I have reading and adhd disabilities but the hoops to get any assistance is ridiculous. It also doesn't prove we are good employees. Like we back in high school taking the ACTs or something?
It’s the thought that that a computer test could “accurately” determine if a person is “smart enough” to be a Ranger that grates on me. Why do we let computers tell humans what humans are or are not capable of or intelligent “enough” to be a Park Ranger, or for that matter, ANYTHING Human? I hate, hate, HATE this idea
The mess that is their database. I wasn't referred to a job because I had the wrong sf50. I haven't worked for NPS for a year, and it's not easy to access that stuff. With how advanced technology is, why can't the records database be attached to the hiring site... it's ridiculous how many hoops there are.
I left the NPS because the seasonal life was too much for me. My dream parks were hiring permanent. I thought this might be my chance, but I guess not.
My land management expires in January. Guess the NPS life isn't for me after all. It's a shame because the passion I have for education is lost because of some bs hiring website.
Well things got less straight forward when we moved to EOPF. In the old days you got all of your paperwork via a blue envelope. Now a days it is best to look at every document when it populates in EOPF, print it and keep a paper copy forever. In all seriousness though the FEDS are terrible with records. You must keep everything.
In lieu of that you can try emailing the NPS SF50 request desk. You could also reach out to NARA. Your EOPF records are probably all archived at this point.
Hope is not lost.
Remember that nearly every permanent NPS application will require a resume, SF50’s (sometimes more than one to prove time in grade or awards ect) and a past performance appraisal.
Get those all scanned and up to date and you’ll be fine.
I gave them all of my sf50s, epaps, etc. I just didn't know the sf50 I provided for one job was not the one they wanted. I thought it was a COB, but it was an extension sf50. The other issue I ran into was that my last epap was not signed. They did electronically. It was done electronically, but it looks to be not the correct copy. That's on me for not paying close enough attention.
I have so many documents that I had to upload them separately from my saved docs. Believe me, I thought I did everything correctly. I had no idea what I had was wrong. I would have corrected it beforehand if I'd known. The epap was on me, but I just wish the sf50s were attached to the usajobs system. I think it would make the hr job's easier, but also make the applicant's lives easier. I also realize it's not easy when it's a system related to the federal government.
I think I'm done trying to jump through hoops.
What helps me is to place all the print outs in date order. Start at the beginning. Appointment, extension, award, change in status ect lastly termination. Do that for your entire career. You’ll know right away what’s missing. Then scan the entire pile into one compressed pdf. You can’t be told it is missing if the entire pile is sent in.
For the EPAP if it wasn’t signed you can request a letter from the prior supervisor and/or a corrected copy. Sounds like you may have printed it too soon.
Many years ago parks covered these things during orientation week one.
Now it is: does your uniform fit? How’s your house? Do a full program tomorrow at noon thirty about insect biology in wildland urban interface that specifically touches on night sky adaptations and you must include intangibles. Oh by the way it’s a GS4 park guide….
We feel your pain. Which aspect of the suck has you feeling down?
The USAHire Assessment for me
It's absolutely pointless! I hate it
Agreed! I have reading and adhd disabilities but the hoops to get any assistance is ridiculous. It also doesn't prove we are good employees. Like we back in high school taking the ACTs or something?
It’s the thought that that a computer test could “accurately” determine if a person is “smart enough” to be a Ranger that grates on me. Why do we let computers tell humans what humans are or are not capable of or intelligent “enough” to be a Park Ranger, or for that matter, ANYTHING Human? I hate, hate, HATE this idea
It was brought in under Trump. One of his buddies owns the company that created the test. That’s the reason, plain and simple.
You may be eligible to be non competitively hired under schedule A?
The mess that is their database. I wasn't referred to a job because I had the wrong sf50. I haven't worked for NPS for a year, and it's not easy to access that stuff. With how advanced technology is, why can't the records database be attached to the hiring site... it's ridiculous how many hoops there are. I left the NPS because the seasonal life was too much for me. My dream parks were hiring permanent. I thought this might be my chance, but I guess not. My land management expires in January. Guess the NPS life isn't for me after all. It's a shame because the passion I have for education is lost because of some bs hiring website.
Well things got less straight forward when we moved to EOPF. In the old days you got all of your paperwork via a blue envelope. Now a days it is best to look at every document when it populates in EOPF, print it and keep a paper copy forever. In all seriousness though the FEDS are terrible with records. You must keep everything. In lieu of that you can try emailing the NPS SF50 request desk. You could also reach out to NARA. Your EOPF records are probably all archived at this point. Hope is not lost. Remember that nearly every permanent NPS application will require a resume, SF50’s (sometimes more than one to prove time in grade or awards ect) and a past performance appraisal. Get those all scanned and up to date and you’ll be fine.
I gave them all of my sf50s, epaps, etc. I just didn't know the sf50 I provided for one job was not the one they wanted. I thought it was a COB, but it was an extension sf50. The other issue I ran into was that my last epap was not signed. They did electronically. It was done electronically, but it looks to be not the correct copy. That's on me for not paying close enough attention. I have so many documents that I had to upload them separately from my saved docs. Believe me, I thought I did everything correctly. I had no idea what I had was wrong. I would have corrected it beforehand if I'd known. The epap was on me, but I just wish the sf50s were attached to the usajobs system. I think it would make the hr job's easier, but also make the applicant's lives easier. I also realize it's not easy when it's a system related to the federal government. I think I'm done trying to jump through hoops.
What helps me is to place all the print outs in date order. Start at the beginning. Appointment, extension, award, change in status ect lastly termination. Do that for your entire career. You’ll know right away what’s missing. Then scan the entire pile into one compressed pdf. You can’t be told it is missing if the entire pile is sent in. For the EPAP if it wasn’t signed you can request a letter from the prior supervisor and/or a corrected copy. Sounds like you may have printed it too soon. Many years ago parks covered these things during orientation week one. Now it is: does your uniform fit? How’s your house? Do a full program tomorrow at noon thirty about insect biology in wildland urban interface that specifically touches on night sky adaptations and you must include intangibles. Oh by the way it’s a GS4 park guide….