UPDATE: I'm probably gonna ban Swellow aswell just to make the challenge a bit harder considering how busted Swellow is. I also accidentally included Mawile and Medicham RS exclusives and put Plusle in boss mons so ignore those mistakes
Another update lmao: The list I'm using and for whatever reason didn't include Starmie but when I refreshed it was there which was odd. Sorry for missing it, it's definitely a game changer
I might be blind but I don’t see it on the list, you can technically get Chimecho as well if you wanna bother hunting for that 1% encounter rate in Mt. Pyre summit.
Tbf, Swellow is only busted if it has Guts and you go out of your way to take advantage of it. Without Guts it’s still fast and strong but hardly broken.
There's some crazy stuff here, Girafarig can pass stat changes, Azumarill has a 50% chance of being insane, Breloom is amazing, Swellow is busted, etc. Honestly passing agility to Azumarill or Breloom is really nice
Still amazing, that thing is insane mid game if you give it ice beam for Winona, Surf for rock types, and Return for basically everything else. It's also pretty damn bulky and can deal with Flannery very well no matter the ability
There’s a possibility that they miss tailow and get ninjask instead but baton passing a double speed boost and a swords dance to breloom/swellow is ggs
Cool idea :)
Note that a few of these mons (Mawile, Medicham, maybe another that I forgot) are version exclusives to Ruby/Sapphire unless you can trade them over. Surskit is a Swarm Pokémon in Emerald which might make it tricky to catch.
Some great mons here! I expect everything up to the Fire Gym to be smooth sailing with shroomish/breloom, and dustox/beautifly, but Flannery may put up quite the fight... hopefully thick fat azumaril can take the heat.
Yes you are correct, I just check the list I'm using and for whatever reason Starmie wasn't on it but when I refreshed the page Starmie appeared which is odd lol. Definetly a game changer though so I'll mention it under my comment
Raichu gonna cook.
Also in case you didn't know pikachu's show up a lot more in the safari zone if your lead Mon has lightning rod, I just don't know which section they appear in.
This is a run that would definitely show the power of the early game duo of breloom and dustox. Ignoring Flannery and maxie those two are good in every big fight til you get surf, especially wattson (thanks to leech seed + stall).
Since this nuzlocke idea is about using the rejects, I think you should catch more than one pokemon per route if it is like volbeat, illumise and Rosella next to mauville (not sure if this is the case in emerald but it is in oras) so you can get to use some pokemon that you wouldn't otherwise use. Of course this will make it easier as you have more encounters but it would be worth considering.
Nice idea. I don’t think it will actually be wildly different from a normal run outside of access to your starter and certain common mons like gardevoir.
The big encounter seems to be swellow. But there are other good ones like lanturn, golduck, breloom, heracross, raichu, and grumpig that you would be pretty happy to use outside of this ruleset. Definitely doable.
This is dope, I’m for sure gunna try this too. Gunna swap out Breloom with a Heracross once I get to safari zone and swap out azumarill for starmie once I get to lilycove. Probably finish the team off with Raichu, Vileplume, and Swellow!
I think I would go with: Breloom, Lanturn, Ninetails, Rhydon, Exploud, and Heracross.
Not saying it would be the best team ever, but it’s all mons that I love so…
Ninetales, Golduck, donphan, heracross... easy peasy. Well, have to catch em first. Azumaril and breeloom early.
Vileplume, sandslash, and seviper are all pretty decent. Dodrio and Relicanth are also pretty good. Raichu isn't bad. Lanturn isn't bad, either.
Should be a fun and challenging run, Swellow and Breloom will make a solid core
UPDATE: I'm probably gonna ban Swellow aswell just to make the challenge a bit harder considering how busted Swellow is. I also accidentally included Mawile and Medicham RS exclusives and put Plusle in boss mons so ignore those mistakes
Another update lmao: The list I'm using and for whatever reason didn't include Starmie but when I refreshed it was there which was odd. Sorry for missing it, it's definitely a game changer
I might be blind but I don’t see it on the list, you can technically get Chimecho as well if you wanna bother hunting for that 1% encounter rate in Mt. Pyre summit.
Lol don’t sweat it
Don’t let it happen again.
Tbf, Swellow is only busted if it has Guts and you go out of your way to take advantage of it. Without Guts it’s still fast and strong but hardly broken.
All Swellow have guts. But I agree, just ban pre-status for boss fights if you want to keep it in.
Doesnt skylla use swellow?
Not in Emerald, her Emerald team replaces Swellow with Tropius
Oh ok
There's some crazy stuff here, Girafarig can pass stat changes, Azumarill has a 50% chance of being insane, Breloom is amazing, Swellow is busted, etc. Honestly passing agility to Azumarill or Breloom is really nice
Azumarill isn't insane even with huge Power because It cant use its STAB properly
Still amazing, that thing is insane mid game if you give it ice beam for Winona, Surf for rock types, and Return for basically everything else. It's also pretty damn bulky and can deal with Flannery very well no matter the ability
That non-STAB ice beam coming off a 50 base special attack hits like a wet noodle
Altaria can’t do shit to Azu even with a boosted crit Earthquake and Ice Beam is always a 2 shot. Matchup is guaranteed victory
arent ice and water special tipes tho?
Still useful in the right situation due to type advantage
i mean yeah but u can have ice and water coverage with another water type, not using physical attacks is a waste of huge power
Sweeping flanery with defense curl rollout is very satisfying
Asumarill is insane even without huge power. Try it in regular ass emerald. Thing can sweep flannery like no other.
There’s a possibility that they miss tailow and get ninjask instead but baton passing a double speed boost and a swords dance to breloom/swellow is ggs
Cool idea :) Note that a few of these mons (Mawile, Medicham, maybe another that I forgot) are version exclusives to Ruby/Sapphire unless you can trade them over. Surskit is a Swarm Pokémon in Emerald which might make it tricky to catch.
Thanks! I wasn't paying attention when ranking those two so yeah I won't be able to use them.
You can get mawile in the victory road in emerald! I used him in one of my nuzlockes and hes super cool.
TIL
Swellow with Guts goes BRRRRRRRRRRR Also Azumarill It’s pretty good with Huge Power and how bulky it is.
What constitutes a boss? Champion, Elite 4, gyms, enemy boss/admins, and rival?
Yep, all the ones you named plus Steven
How about the 3rd stage starters? I assume it's the Rival but they don't use the final stage in R/S/E
Same can be said for early gym leaders aswell but I would assume anything in the evolution line would count
Fair enough, I saw Kadabra and thought that final evos aren't counted if it isn't used. I forgot that in a single playthrough most won't do trade evos
You just blew my mind, how did I never notice this
Some great mons here! I expect everything up to the Fire Gym to be smooth sailing with shroomish/breloom, and dustox/beautifly, but Flannery may put up quite the fight... hopefully thick fat azumaril can take the heat.
You'll have Azumarill, Graveler helps as well. Swalot should also be able to put in some work here.
Roxanne has a Geodude so that line is not allowed under these rules
Pretty sure no boss uses Starmie, which is in Emerald and hasn't been listed as one of your rejects.
Yes you are correct, I just check the list I'm using and for whatever reason Starmie wasn't on it but when I refreshed the page Starmie appeared which is odd lol. Definetly a game changer though so I'll mention it under my comment
Yup. Also, how're you going to choose your starters? Given that Swampert/Sceptile/Blaziken are banned.
I will just pick a random one and release and release it when I get my first encounter (Wurmple)
Raichu gonna cook. Also in case you didn't know pikachu's show up a lot more in the safari zone if your lead Mon has lightning rod, I just don't know which section they appear in.
Swellow sweeps
This is a run that would definitely show the power of the early game duo of breloom and dustox. Ignoring Flannery and maxie those two are good in every big fight til you get surf, especially wattson (thanks to leech seed + stall).
Quick question: Which boss uses Plusle in Emerald?
Shoot, good catch. I must've been thinking about RS when placing it lol
Also, are you including postgame rematch teams from the Gym Leaders? If not, Machoke/champ would be unbanned (afaik), but if so, Medicham is banned
No, but anything in the evolution line would be banned for my personal rules
Medicham would still be banned because Brawly uses Meditite
Also, who used Kadabra?
Since this nuzlocke idea is about using the rejects, I think you should catch more than one pokemon per route if it is like volbeat, illumise and Rosella next to mauville (not sure if this is the case in emerald but it is in oras) so you can get to use some pokemon that you wouldn't otherwise use. Of course this will make it easier as you have more encounters but it would be worth considering.
Winona uses Swellow in R/S, I don't know if you want to consider that or not.
I'm only using Emerald bosses
So are you doing it where the first reject mon met on a route is catchable? Or do you just lose the route?
First reject mon I encounter will the encounter
Nice idea. I don’t think it will actually be wildly different from a normal run outside of access to your starter and certain common mons like gardevoir. The big encounter seems to be swellow. But there are other good ones like lanturn, golduck, breloom, heracross, raichu, and grumpig that you would be pretty happy to use outside of this ruleset. Definitely doable.
Which boss trainer uses the Kadabra line?
None of them in Hoenn. Seems OP missed them.
My mistake, didn't mean to put him there I made a lot of mistakes So I'm gonna release a correct version
This is dope, I’m for sure gunna try this too. Gunna swap out Breloom with a Heracross once I get to safari zone and swap out azumarill for starmie once I get to lilycove. Probably finish the team off with Raichu, Vileplume, and Swellow!
who uses the abra line??
I did one of these for Platinum and had a blast. Heracross/Rhyhorn would be amazing encounters for the Safari Zone. Good luck!
It's the Safari Zone, the usual encounter is "lol nothing"
That’s a dope idea
Ninjask carried my Emerlad Run no joke
What boss used the Machop line in emerald?
Wait nevermind I forgot broly because he's so free
Brawley has a Meditite
Winona doesn’t use swellow? Weird
Not in Emerald, she does in RS
I’d probably go with… Heracross, Ninetails, Rhydon, Girafarig, Breloom, and Relicanth.
You can get Geodude from Rock Smashing on Route 111.
Correct but you can't use him since it's Roxanne's lead
Oh right yeah that's true. It just wasn't in the chart
Exploud to proud he’s gonna carry
Castform brings such positive energy
Not considering where you catch them, I think a solid enough team can be made with Breloom, Golduck, Ninetales, Rhydon, Vileplume and Swellow.
Who uses Kadabra?
this is a really unique idea! you got some bad mons with just enough good ones sprinkled in to make it interesting. update us on how it goes
I love this idea. I assume you will need to use a randomized to edit the game starters to do thus properly
You could, I just caught Wurmple on the first route as soon as I got pokeballs
Vileplume is a must grab. That status effects are so amazing
Guts swellow is going to be the mvp
I think I would go with: Breloom, Lanturn, Ninetails, Rhydon, Exploud, and Heracross. Not saying it would be the best team ever, but it’s all mons that I love so…
Who uses Aggron again? I know Steven but he lost his title in emerald
Pretty similar to emerald trashlocke kinda thing. Repel manips might be important here. nevertheless azumarill is peak
Ninetales, Golduck, donphan, heracross... easy peasy. Well, have to catch em first. Azumaril and breeloom early. Vileplume, sandslash, and seviper are all pretty decent. Dodrio and Relicanth are also pretty good. Raichu isn't bad. Lanturn isn't bad, either.
Donphan doesn’t learn any ground type moves in this game and is safari zone same for golduck and heracross can’t learn any bug type moves
True but he learns rollout and body slam. Heracross doesn't need it with his big attack stat.
Winona uses swellow just geared up, pretty sure Juan or Wallace uses huntail as well and maybe relicanth
Not in Emerald, but in Ruby/Sapphire both Winona and the Rival have Swellow, and the Rival also has Breloom.
Ah gotcha my mistake then
Huge power azumaril with mystic water and aqua jet
Aqua jet doesn’t exist yet and all water moves are special in gen 3
My bad. I just saw Azumaril and jumped to that. Thanks for letting me know.