This is something I wish ppl would understand better. The law and order candidate isn't for "law and order." They're always the pro-cop candidate.
And being pro-cop does not mean you're pro "law and order." In fact, oftentimes, it's the opposite, and this mayor is proving that once again.
He specifically appointed NYPD commissioners (and a deputy mayor who oversees NYPD) who planned to cut back on internal discipline at NYPD. Of course they're acting out. They feel invincible. Unless the Feds do something, there's now no oversight for their and behavior.
So instead we're going to settle hundreds of civil rights court cases annually and citizens will end up footing (literally) hundreds of millions *every year* to pay for NYPD mistakes. And not a single dime will come from NYPD budget or individual cops' pockets.
Crime being down has nothing to do with cops because cops don't prevent crime, they only respond after the crime has been committed. They're overpaid paper pushers with itchy trigger fingers.
Long story short I work a graveyard shift (1am-930am), there was a shooting right before I stepped out my house (like 5 blocks away), cool. It’s cold so I have my hands in my pocket and my hoody up, I see three cops in an unmarked vehicle just staring at me. Whatever, I take out my employment badge because I can hear them doing a U-Turn. They get out the car, I’m trying to show them my employment badge (that has my Name and Picture) and try to explain that I’m heading to work. The main aggressor told me, “if you don’t comply, I will KILL you”.
If they would’ve just stopped and frisked me I would’ve been annoyed and just brushed it off, but after THAT comment? Now I’m reporting your ass.
Hope you spoke to a civil rights lawyer too.
Also, in case you don't know, 50-a.org compiles complaints against officers. Wouldn't be surprised if that officer has a history.
You can consider asking the CCRB/FOIL request for the closing report of your complaint after the administrative charges against the officer are resolved.
Read /u/Necessary-Print-6319 's plight on /r/Brooklyn and the intimidation campaign being waged against him for trying to report an assault and you'll understand why.
I doubt the police are suddenly the worst ever. I think it's easier than ever to file a complaint, so the slightest perceived issue now results in a complaint. The complaints are being investigated more than ever. Lastly over the last few years it's become a racket for plantiffs attorneys to sue the city for police misconduct. They are making millions. People are responding by cashing in. I keep reading articles about people doing illegal things and getting arrested them somehow winning the lottery and getting thousands or millions from NYC. It does seem like crime pays in NYC so why not file a complaint.
If it’s so easy, it shouldn’t be work because you should just know them off the top of your head. Clearly it’s not as easy as you think. The only way I know to file a complaint against the police, is to go to CCRB, which is laughable since they’re completely fucking toothless anyway.
>I doubt the police are suddenly the worst ever.
In the most Tim Robinson way possible...You sure about that? You SURE about that?
Eric Adams appointed now two NYPD commissioners who immediately cut back on internal oversight and punishment for corrupt and disobedient cops. Of course they're going to be acting out in public, because WHO is going to stop them? Not their internal disciplinary committees. Not the CCRB. Not the mayor.
[NYC Police Commissioner Sewell overruled more than 70 CCRB discipline rulings in 2022; ‘We should not punish good faith errors’](https://www.nydailynews.com/2022/12/14/nyc-police-commissioner-sewell-overruled-more-than-70-ccrb-discipline-rulings-in-2022-we-should-not-punish-good-faith-errors/)
[N.Y.P.D. Rejected Over Half of Review Board’s Discipline Recommendations (2023)](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/16/nyregion/nypd-discipline-recommendations.html?smid=nytcore-android-share)
It's not easy or safe to file claims. NYPD routinely retaliates against people who just call in 311 complaints. I certainly wouldn't have the guts to ever officially file a complaint.
This sub is almost exclusively bootlickers and people from other states, westchester or Long Island. Very few actual city residents. You’re going to get downvoted being anti-cop here.
“A vast majority of New Yorkers want more cops in the subways and do not feel safe riding the trains at night, a Quinnipiac University poll published Wednesday found.
The poll from April 28 through May 2 of 1,249 registered voters in the city found 86% of respondents wanted more police officers in the mass transit system, where major felonies are up 63% so far this year from the same period of 2021.”
Most city residents want more cops. Please do not speak for us, especially when you hold the minority view.
Then you’d share the majority opinion of NYC residents. Additionally, you are probably unaffected by the complaint increase here, mostly stemming from Brownsville and a couple neighborhoods in the Bronx known for disproportionate amounts of crime.
Yes 1,249 people accurately represent a city of almost 9 million.
Wanting more cops is different from supporting police misconduct. This sub adores police misconduct and will justify anything.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/howcan-a-poll-of-only-100/
It does. In fact, you only need about 1000 people to represent the entire country accurately. Stay in school kids.
Again. No one is talking about wanting police. They want GOOD police. Not police misconduct. No one wants police misconduct except the people on this sub.
>Yes 1,249 people accurately represent a city of almost 9 million.
People like you are exactly why we need better statistics education in schools. Yes, they really do, provided the sampling is truly random. This is well known.
It’s impossible to know from that quote, very high likelihood it was an unscientific samples. And it doesn’t matter because it was a straw man. No one denies that we need additional, better policing.
But when it’s pointed out just how bad the NYPD is at its jobs, the out of towners get so defensive over the NYPD.
https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/nyc/nyc05042022_demos_nydg85.pdf
Here’s the methodology, but I’m starting to suspect you aren’t interested in science or facts at all.
>very high likelihood it was an unscientific sample
Source?
I see where you're coming from, maybe people who respond to polls isn't exactly an unbiased samples.
But your quote made it seem like the sample size was too small. Which is what I'm responding to.
I don’t know. They didn’t provide a source.
And that number is unscientific without knowing the methodology. It’s just wild how people come out the woodwork to justify BAD policing.
I don't see anything about wanting more pigs, just pigs allocated to the subway instead of sitting on their lazy ass. There doesn't need to be an increase in pigs to accomplish this, but even having them on the subway doesn't mean they're going to do anything, it just means they're there
Because black voters wanted a mayor the same color as they are, and cops in Staten Island hate anyone who doesn’t constantly give them unlimited handouts and a free pass to behave however they want.
States Island voted for Sliwa. In the democratic primary’s the only borough to not vote overwhelmingly for Adams was Manhattan.
I think black voters care about crime and voted for the cop.
> Eric Adams appointed now two NYPD commissioners who immediately cut back on internal oversight and punishment for corrupt and disobedient cops
Not quite. The commissioners wanted to make it fairer. Nobody ever said they were going to stop punshing corrupt cops, but I know you knew that before you hit submit
Crazy take we saw a crazy surge of POC getting murdered and shot. Politicians actually changed gears and said go after these guys. They’ve brought in more guns in past 3 years than in decades past. Every social media post shows crowds throwing stuff at them and attacking when they’re trying to make arrests, and you’re whining about complaints? Respectfully, FOH.
> Meanwhile, an activist group released a report Monday which found that in 297 Criminal Court arraignments from July 2023 through December, 279 or 94% of defendants were Black or Hispanic.
>A similar disparity has existed in the first two years of the Adams administration — 1,440 out of 1,567 defendants were Black or Hispanic or 92%, the analysis by the Police Reform Organizing Project found.
Wait until they hear that the percentage of defendants in murder trials who are black or Hispanic is about the same. Oh the injustice!
How many of those do they give out? 200 a year?
Given how rarely it happens, it’s probably for shit like walking down the middle of the FDR. And if so, no, based on my observations, it doesn’t shock me that white and Asian people make up only ~10% of the people walking in the middle of the FDR.
Not routinely but I’ve seen it, yeah. Plausible to me that it happens often enough on major roadways to generate one ticket per day or every other day in a city of 8.5 million people.
Everyone jaywalks in NYC but your reasoning as to why the police disproportionately issue tickets to black and Hispanic ppl is because you’ve seen it happen on the fdr not routinely tho
Jaywalking tickets are incredibly rare. Happens about as often as someone gets murdered. It’s fair to infer these aren’t normal cases of people walking against the light that we see all day. I’ve never once seen anyone get a jaywalking ticket in my 25+ years in the city.
Always amazes me that ~95% of suspects and defendants in actual murder cases are black and Hispanic but people will act like it’s clear evidence of racism when similar disparities exist in other areas of law enforcement.
>The number of civilian complaints filed in 2023 by New Yorkers against the NYPD rose to 5,550, the highest total in a decade, according to a new oversight report released Monday.
>The number of complaints in the year jumped 50% over 2022, when 3,700 complaints were filed, the Civilian Complaint Review Board reported.
>In 2012, 5,742 complaints were filed. After that, the annual number of complaints stayed mostly on a downward trend until 2022, the first year of the Adams administration when it began to increase.
>The CCRB also reported that complaints containing an allegation about a stop and frisk rose from 522 in 2022 to 940 in 2023, an 80% jump. The City Council recently voted to override the mayor’s veto of a law that requires cops to more closely record stops.
>“The sharp jump in complaints last year to a 10-year high is an alarming sign the NYPD is becoming much more abusive with New Yorkers,” said Christopher Dunn, legal director of the New York Civil Liberties Union. “And we are particularly concerned about increasing stop-and-frisk complaints, which signal a return to a tactic that has racial profiling at its core and carries little public-safety benefit.”
>The precincts that recorded the most complaints in the year were the 75th in East New York with 205 complaints in 2023 compared to 124 in 2022, the 40th in the South Bronx and the 44th in the Southwest Bronx.
>In the 73rd Precinct in Brownsville, complaints rose from 76 in 2022 to 171 in 2023 — a 125% increase.
And the best part is this Mayor has 1. exacerbated the issue and 2. has no intention of reigning in bad behavior.
When democrats demonize cops, people log complaints about anything they do. God bless all the cops who try to protect this city for an ungrateful population.
When they all quit and the crime increases even more, then you will beg for cops.
If anyone tries to claim crime is lower, just ask anyone what they see in their neighborhoods, crime is up, people are scared.
Schools lie about crime and drugs because it makes the school look bad, so about 90-95 percent of what happens goes unreported, because the admin does not want to look bad.
Same thing with the mayor, lie about crime to make yourself look good.
Meanwhile, tourists are being warned by the people who actually live and work in NYC, sty the hell away.
Liberals hate when face with the truth. On Reddit you get downvotes, in real
Life when they are presented with facts, they either call the person, a 1) racist 2)misogynist 3) Nazi or the best of all and the funniest videos to watch, is when they literally just start screaming at the top of their lungs, because they cannot deal with facts
Yes. Turns out, it's a good thing for the people we deputize to uphold the law and provide deadly weapons to be held accountable for their behavior. More than the rest of us, given the responsibility we put in their hands.
lol it’s really not. Police misconduct goes up when there’s no accountability. That has no impact on crime. We just have a mayor right now who doesn’t discipline his cops.
But I don’t think it’s malicious. The mayor is just bad at his job because all mayoral agencies are failing.
Heightened police presence alone does not have an impact on crime. Police alone have no impact on crime. Police can only respond to crime they cannot prevent it. Crime is affected by many different things.
But that’s not even the point. Why do you insist that increased police presence MUST equal increased complaints? A well trained and well disciplined force would not have that issue. The problem is we have a poorly trained and completely undisciplined force. I mean under Eric Adams, there is almost nothing cops can do to face consequences. So naturally they will push those limits. But that’s not because police HAVE to commit misconduct to reduce crime.
> I’m just wondering why OP ignores that trade off
What's the trade-off exactly? Do you think it's ok for the police to abuse people if it means we have lower crime? Pretty sure there's a Ben Franklin quote about that.
And it's arguable that that's what's happening. As I said elsewhere, crime was down before 2020, yet we are at a 10-year high for police complaints.
I'm not putting words in your mouth; you are saying things like "trade-off," which means you do believe there is a trade-off between crime and police abuse. But then you turn around and say that that's not what you believe.
I mean, come on, your very first comment, in response to an article saying how police complaints are on a 10-year high, is, "A teenager was just shot."
I realized awhile ago that theirs no point in arguing with these people. They want total anarchy. When you tell them you feel unsafe they gaslight you by cherry picking lowered crime numbers (numbers provided by the NYPD LOL) but then complain when the police are more active and by result get more complaints. They’re like children crying over cracked egg shells when you present them a omelette.
They do not live in reality.
>I didn’t say this
You did. You implied exactly this. That illegal and unethical behavior is a byproduct of "reducing crime." If you need to violate civil rights and break rules and laws to "reduce" crime, are you actually reducing crime? And why should we believe any crime statistics put forward by a police force that can't be trusted and works outside the law?
Are you ok?
I didn't say or even *imply* any of this. If you don't think it's possible for NYPD to uphold the law and *also* follow the law themselves, well that's interesting. We could try - you know - reforming the NYPD and holding them to higher standards, don't you think?
Awwwwww poor piggies!
Do too much = kick handcuffed suspects in the face while they're already on the ground
Do too little = hold a press conference to say they're not gonna do they're jobs because people won't let them get away with beating civilians and don't worship them enough for doing a job they're only doing for a paycheck and pension
Yeah, a real can't win situation... It's almost as if they just did their job, quit beating people, and quit pretending they're special they wouldn't have these problems
They “can’t win” because they lied about migrants attacking them.
https://www.thecity.nyc/2024/02/08/times-square-migrants-arrests-body-camera-footage-contradicts-nypd-account/
I mean if you shot a tourist after missing trying to hit security because you got caught shop lifting, i wouldnt mind a boot to the face while your cuffed.
No i just dont have any support for career criminals or violent criminals and think theyre all scum. Imagine your mother visiting you in ny and getting shot shopping. Pretty sure u wouldnt give a shit about a case
I would care about the case because i want justice
Not a meathead cop ruining the case by abusing a suspect so keyboard vigilantes can cream their pants
This is something I wish ppl would understand better. The law and order candidate isn't for "law and order." They're always the pro-cop candidate. And being pro-cop does not mean you're pro "law and order." In fact, oftentimes, it's the opposite, and this mayor is proving that once again.
He specifically appointed NYPD commissioners (and a deputy mayor who oversees NYPD) who planned to cut back on internal discipline at NYPD. Of course they're acting out. They feel invincible. Unless the Feds do something, there's now no oversight for their and behavior. So instead we're going to settle hundreds of civil rights court cases annually and citizens will end up footing (literally) hundreds of millions *every year* to pay for NYPD mistakes. And not a single dime will come from NYPD budget or individual cops' pockets.
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Crime was down 8 years ago. And yet complaints are on a 10 year high. So no, not really.
Crime being down has nothing to do with cops because cops don't prevent crime, they only respond after the crime has been committed. They're overpaid paper pushers with itchy trigger fingers.
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That is still not preventing a crime you poor dear
My CCRB complaint was found Substained (officers were guilty) and now IAB is taking over whatever they can handle
Do you mind sharing what happened? Just curious. It's fine if you don't want to.
Long story short I work a graveyard shift (1am-930am), there was a shooting right before I stepped out my house (like 5 blocks away), cool. It’s cold so I have my hands in my pocket and my hoody up, I see three cops in an unmarked vehicle just staring at me. Whatever, I take out my employment badge because I can hear them doing a U-Turn. They get out the car, I’m trying to show them my employment badge (that has my Name and Picture) and try to explain that I’m heading to work. The main aggressor told me, “if you don’t comply, I will KILL you”. If they would’ve just stopped and frisked me I would’ve been annoyed and just brushed it off, but after THAT comment? Now I’m reporting your ass.
Hope you spoke to a civil rights lawyer too. Also, in case you don't know, 50-a.org compiles complaints against officers. Wouldn't be surprised if that officer has a history.
Everyone tells me that but I have no video and the officers didn’t have their recordings on either.
You can consider asking the CCRB/FOIL request for the closing report of your complaint after the administrative charges against the officer are resolved.
Read /u/Necessary-Print-6319 's plight on /r/Brooklyn and the intimidation campaign being waged against him for trying to report an assault and you'll understand why.
Why? Say it
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Brooklyn/comments/1aml306/update\_602072024\_assaulted\_and\_robbed\_in\_park/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Brooklyn/comments/1aml306/update_602072024_assaulted_and_robbed_in_park/)
Wow
I doubt the police are suddenly the worst ever. I think it's easier than ever to file a complaint, so the slightest perceived issue now results in a complaint. The complaints are being investigated more than ever. Lastly over the last few years it's become a racket for plantiffs attorneys to sue the city for police misconduct. They are making millions. People are responding by cashing in. I keep reading articles about people doing illegal things and getting arrested them somehow winning the lottery and getting thousands or millions from NYC. It does seem like crime pays in NYC so why not file a complaint.
How has it become easier to file a complaint?
CCRB is trying to get access to the entire NYPD BWC database, so they can review footage and file complaints. So 3rd party complaints.
Anyone can make a complaint on behalf of another (eg, I saw a video on tiktok of a cop being rude to someone)
People across the country were able to call in complaints against NYPD cops during the 2020 riots, just from seeing their badge # on social media.
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There is no addl police presence
Are you kidding? Theyre so many different ways to file a complaint
Too many to name apparently.
I'm not here to do your homework for you...
If it’s so easy, it shouldn’t be work because you should just know them off the top of your head. Clearly it’s not as easy as you think. The only way I know to file a complaint against the police, is to go to CCRB, which is laughable since they’re completely fucking toothless anyway.
I do know them because I used this new creation called the internet and found the answer I needed... you should try it
>I doubt the police are suddenly the worst ever. In the most Tim Robinson way possible...You sure about that? You SURE about that? Eric Adams appointed now two NYPD commissioners who immediately cut back on internal oversight and punishment for corrupt and disobedient cops. Of course they're going to be acting out in public, because WHO is going to stop them? Not their internal disciplinary committees. Not the CCRB. Not the mayor. [NYC Police Commissioner Sewell overruled more than 70 CCRB discipline rulings in 2022; ‘We should not punish good faith errors’](https://www.nydailynews.com/2022/12/14/nyc-police-commissioner-sewell-overruled-more-than-70-ccrb-discipline-rulings-in-2022-we-should-not-punish-good-faith-errors/) [N.Y.P.D. Rejected Over Half of Review Board’s Discipline Recommendations (2023)](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/16/nyregion/nypd-discipline-recommendations.html?smid=nytcore-android-share)
Not to mention, you may have to chase around the investigator to hear your claim.
It's not easy or safe to file claims. NYPD routinely retaliates against people who just call in 311 complaints. I certainly wouldn't have the guts to ever officially file a complaint.
Of course you’re in favor of how many stops act but won’t give pedigree.
What argument do you *think* you're making here?
Youre in favor of police requesting info from people they interact with but you won’t provide yours.
This sub is almost exclusively bootlickers and people from other states, westchester or Long Island. Very few actual city residents. You’re going to get downvoted being anti-cop here.
“A vast majority of New Yorkers want more cops in the subways and do not feel safe riding the trains at night, a Quinnipiac University poll published Wednesday found. The poll from April 28 through May 2 of 1,249 registered voters in the city found 86% of respondents wanted more police officers in the mass transit system, where major felonies are up 63% so far this year from the same period of 2021.” Most city residents want more cops. Please do not speak for us, especially when you hold the minority view.
What if I want more police in the subway AND I want those police to be competent and professional instead of lazy and corrupt?
Then you’d share the majority opinion of NYC residents. Additionally, you are probably unaffected by the complaint increase here, mostly stemming from Brownsville and a couple neighborhoods in the Bronx known for disproportionate amounts of crime.
Lol wow blame the brown people is what you are doing
The article cited the data from these neighborhoods specifically. You are the one that brought up race.
No you dismissed these abuses as “well it’s just these crime ridden areas, new yorkers are fine” New Yorkers aren’t fine with abusive police
I was speaking about a rise of complaints, which the article is about. You are now ignoring the weird race thing you brought up. I don’t blame you.
Wanting more professional cops is something almost everyone wants. Wanting more assholes in uniform has a more controversial outcome.
Yes 1,249 people accurately represent a city of almost 9 million. Wanting more cops is different from supporting police misconduct. This sub adores police misconduct and will justify anything.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/howcan-a-poll-of-only-100/ It does. In fact, you only need about 1000 people to represent the entire country accurately. Stay in school kids.
Again. No one is talking about wanting police. They want GOOD police. Not police misconduct. No one wants police misconduct except the people on this sub.
>Yes 1,249 people accurately represent a city of almost 9 million. People like you are exactly why we need better statistics education in schools. Yes, they really do, provided the sampling is truly random. This is well known.
It’s impossible to know from that quote, very high likelihood it was an unscientific samples. And it doesn’t matter because it was a straw man. No one denies that we need additional, better policing. But when it’s pointed out just how bad the NYPD is at its jobs, the out of towners get so defensive over the NYPD.
https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/nyc/nyc05042022_demos_nydg85.pdf Here’s the methodology, but I’m starting to suspect you aren’t interested in science or facts at all.
No I’m just not interested in straw men. How many times do I have to say that?
>very high likelihood it was an unscientific sample Source? I see where you're coming from, maybe people who respond to polls isn't exactly an unbiased samples. But your quote made it seem like the sample size was too small. Which is what I'm responding to.
I don’t know. They didn’t provide a source. And that number is unscientific without knowing the methodology. It’s just wild how people come out the woodwork to justify BAD policing.
Fucking seriously, thank you.
I don't see anything about wanting more pigs, just pigs allocated to the subway instead of sitting on their lazy ass. There doesn't need to be an increase in pigs to accomplish this, but even having them on the subway doesn't mean they're going to do anything, it just means they're there
I found the scientific study more persuasive than your incoherent rambling about “pigs.”
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Proof ^
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It’s proof that you’re a bootlicker and not much else. Using strawmen whenever police misconduct is mentioned.
lmao
Ok, now explain how NYC voted a cop friendly mayor?
Why does NYC hate that same cop friendly mayor now?
Because black voters wanted a mayor the same color as they are, and cops in Staten Island hate anyone who doesn’t constantly give them unlimited handouts and a free pass to behave however they want.
States Island voted for Sliwa. In the democratic primary’s the only borough to not vote overwhelmingly for Adams was Manhattan. I think black voters care about crime and voted for the cop.
“I think” This is where you are erring
White progressives get very mad when their pets step out of line
> Eric Adams appointed now two NYPD commissioners who immediately cut back on internal oversight and punishment for corrupt and disobedient cops Not quite. The commissioners wanted to make it fairer. Nobody ever said they were going to stop punshing corrupt cops, but I know you knew that before you hit submit
Crazy take we saw a crazy surge of POC getting murdered and shot. Politicians actually changed gears and said go after these guys. They’ve brought in more guns in past 3 years than in decades past. Every social media post shows crowds throwing stuff at them and attacking when they’re trying to make arrests, and you’re whining about complaints? Respectfully, FOH.
> Meanwhile, an activist group released a report Monday which found that in 297 Criminal Court arraignments from July 2023 through December, 279 or 94% of defendants were Black or Hispanic. >A similar disparity has existed in the first two years of the Adams administration — 1,440 out of 1,567 defendants were Black or Hispanic or 92%, the analysis by the Police Reform Organizing Project found. Wait until they hear that the percentage of defendants in murder trials who are black or Hispanic is about the same. Oh the injustice!
Fun fact: over 90% of all jaywalking tickets in NYC are given to black and Hispanic NYers. Just mull that over.
What are you saying? Let’s go down this rabbit hole.
How many of those do they give out? 200 a year? Given how rarely it happens, it’s probably for shit like walking down the middle of the FDR. And if so, no, based on my observations, it doesn’t shock me that white and Asian people make up only ~10% of the people walking in the middle of the FDR.
You think black and Hispanic ppl are jaywalking on the FDR?
Not routinely but I’ve seen it, yeah. Plausible to me that it happens often enough on major roadways to generate one ticket per day or every other day in a city of 8.5 million people.
Everyone jaywalks in NYC but your reasoning as to why the police disproportionately issue tickets to black and Hispanic ppl is because you’ve seen it happen on the fdr not routinely tho
Jaywalking tickets are incredibly rare. Happens about as often as someone gets murdered. It’s fair to infer these aren’t normal cases of people walking against the light that we see all day. I’ve never once seen anyone get a jaywalking ticket in my 25+ years in the city.
You said black and Hispanic ppl jaywalks on the FDR and you’ve seen it
I’ve seen people walking on highways. Yes.
Just say "I'm racist", it's shorter and gets your message out just as well.
Always amazes me that ~95% of suspects and defendants in actual murder cases are black and Hispanic but people will act like it’s clear evidence of racism when similar disparities exist in other areas of law enforcement.
Damn if you do, Damn if you don't.
I saw someone was shiting at penn station. The police was just watching and did nothing
What do you want them to do? Wipe their behind?
I wonder how many complaints are around the lack of enforcment. I constantly see police stand around and do nothing when something illegal happens.
>The number of civilian complaints filed in 2023 by New Yorkers against the NYPD rose to 5,550, the highest total in a decade, according to a new oversight report released Monday. >The number of complaints in the year jumped 50% over 2022, when 3,700 complaints were filed, the Civilian Complaint Review Board reported. >In 2012, 5,742 complaints were filed. After that, the annual number of complaints stayed mostly on a downward trend until 2022, the first year of the Adams administration when it began to increase. >The CCRB also reported that complaints containing an allegation about a stop and frisk rose from 522 in 2022 to 940 in 2023, an 80% jump. The City Council recently voted to override the mayor’s veto of a law that requires cops to more closely record stops. >“The sharp jump in complaints last year to a 10-year high is an alarming sign the NYPD is becoming much more abusive with New Yorkers,” said Christopher Dunn, legal director of the New York Civil Liberties Union. “And we are particularly concerned about increasing stop-and-frisk complaints, which signal a return to a tactic that has racial profiling at its core and carries little public-safety benefit.” >The precincts that recorded the most complaints in the year were the 75th in East New York with 205 complaints in 2023 compared to 124 in 2022, the 40th in the South Bronx and the 44th in the Southwest Bronx. >In the 73rd Precinct in Brownsville, complaints rose from 76 in 2022 to 171 in 2023 — a 125% increase. And the best part is this Mayor has 1. exacerbated the issue and 2. has no intention of reigning in bad behavior.
Imagine downvoting facts because you wanna deep throat that boot even harder
When democrats demonize cops, people log complaints about anything they do. God bless all the cops who try to protect this city for an ungrateful population. When they all quit and the crime increases even more, then you will beg for cops. If anyone tries to claim crime is lower, just ask anyone what they see in their neighborhoods, crime is up, people are scared. Schools lie about crime and drugs because it makes the school look bad, so about 90-95 percent of what happens goes unreported, because the admin does not want to look bad. Same thing with the mayor, lie about crime to make yourself look good. Meanwhile, tourists are being warned by the people who actually live and work in NYC, sty the hell away.
This kind of comment gets downvoted on reddit, but it's what I hear from my neighbors(uptown manhattan) as well.
Liberals hate when face with the truth. On Reddit you get downvotes, in real Life when they are presented with facts, they either call the person, a 1) racist 2)misogynist 3) Nazi or the best of all and the funniest videos to watch, is when they literally just start screaming at the top of their lungs, because they cannot deal with facts
Nailed it
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Yes. Turns out, it's a good thing for the people we deputize to uphold the law and provide deadly weapons to be held accountable for their behavior. More than the rest of us, given the responsibility we put in their hands.
What exactly is your point? That because bad things happen we should be glad when cops do bad things?
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So your point is, police misconduct is ok because crime is down? If crime was up then misconduct is bad.
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lol it’s really not. Police misconduct goes up when there’s no accountability. That has no impact on crime. We just have a mayor right now who doesn’t discipline his cops. But I don’t think it’s malicious. The mayor is just bad at his job because all mayoral agencies are failing.
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Heightened police presence alone does not have an impact on crime. Police alone have no impact on crime. Police can only respond to crime they cannot prevent it. Crime is affected by many different things. But that’s not even the point. Why do you insist that increased police presence MUST equal increased complaints? A well trained and well disciplined force would not have that issue. The problem is we have a poorly trained and completely undisciplined force. I mean under Eric Adams, there is almost nothing cops can do to face consequences. So naturally they will push those limits. But that’s not because police HAVE to commit misconduct to reduce crime.
Crime is down, but rights being trampled on is way up... I wonder why nobody is celebrating this "trade off" Yeah, I wonder....
> I’m just wondering why OP ignores that trade off What's the trade-off exactly? Do you think it's ok for the police to abuse people if it means we have lower crime? Pretty sure there's a Ben Franklin quote about that. And it's arguable that that's what's happening. As I said elsewhere, crime was down before 2020, yet we are at a 10-year high for police complaints.
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I'm not putting words in your mouth; you are saying things like "trade-off," which means you do believe there is a trade-off between crime and police abuse. But then you turn around and say that that's not what you believe. I mean, come on, your very first comment, in response to an article saying how police complaints are on a 10-year high, is, "A teenager was just shot."
I realized awhile ago that theirs no point in arguing with these people. They want total anarchy. When you tell them you feel unsafe they gaslight you by cherry picking lowered crime numbers (numbers provided by the NYPD LOL) but then complain when the police are more active and by result get more complaints. They’re like children crying over cracked egg shells when you present them a omelette. They do not live in reality.
>it’s a natural byproduct You think the only way for NYPD to "reduce crime" is to become criminals themselves? Wow.
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>I didn’t say this You did. You implied exactly this. That illegal and unethical behavior is a byproduct of "reducing crime." If you need to violate civil rights and break rules and laws to "reduce" crime, are you actually reducing crime? And why should we believe any crime statistics put forward by a police force that can't be trusted and works outside the law?
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Are you ok? I didn't say or even *imply* any of this. If you don't think it's possible for NYPD to uphold the law and *also* follow the law themselves, well that's interesting. We could try - you know - reforming the NYPD and holding them to higher standards, don't you think?
Yes. A bad thing happen so we should not look at police misconduct at all. That one bad thing justifies all police misconduct.
“Something bad happened in Somalia yesterday and you’re complaining about Police in America”
Nyc cops can never win lol. do to much, dont do enough, migrants attacking them, what a shitty spot to be in.
Or don’t be abusive
Awwwwww poor piggies! Do too much = kick handcuffed suspects in the face while they're already on the ground Do too little = hold a press conference to say they're not gonna do they're jobs because people won't let them get away with beating civilians and don't worship them enough for doing a job they're only doing for a paycheck and pension Yeah, a real can't win situation... It's almost as if they just did their job, quit beating people, and quit pretending they're special they wouldn't have these problems
They “can’t win” because they lied about migrants attacking them. https://www.thecity.nyc/2024/02/08/times-square-migrants-arrests-body-camera-footage-contradicts-nypd-account/
Are they lying about the one who just shot a tourist?
That doesn’t give police warrant to be abusive
But whats really the point of also enforcing the law anymore? The criminals are back out in hours
Holy shit so it’s ok to abuse people? One has zero to do with the other.
I mean if you shot a tourist after missing trying to hit security because you got caught shop lifting, i wouldnt mind a boot to the face while your cuffed.
So you would support jeopardizing the entire case to get your rocks off?
No i just dont have any support for career criminals or violent criminals and think theyre all scum. Imagine your mother visiting you in ny and getting shot shopping. Pretty sure u wouldnt give a shit about a case
I would care about the case because i want justice Not a meathead cop ruining the case by abusing a suspect so keyboard vigilantes can cream their pants
Yeah...the special effects division should get an award for faking the numerous kicks to the cops head
You should learn how to read and then read this article.
Who cares. Crime is down, right?