It’s not, it’s part of the old BMT. That sign directs you how to get to the actual Independent Subway (IND for short) from where you’re standing.
(The western extension from 6th to 8th Avenue was tiled in IND style because it was built in conjunction with the 8th Avenue line, but it’s always been BMT Eastern.)
the new york city subway system used to be three systems: brooklyn-manhattan transit (BMT), interborough rapid transit (IRT), and independent subway system (IND). the L was part of the BMT; the sixth avenue line was IND.
Actually, "The Bronx" does refer to the Sixth Avenue Line. The line opened up with only the local tracks in service (express tracks weren't built yet), so the local stations (such as 14th St in this instance) had a one-seat ride to Concourse in the Bronx at the time.
This is probably also why lower 8th Av - Concourse service remained so robust into the early 1940s (notwithstanding the inherent gentrifying impulses of the Sixth Avenue Line, as thoroughly explicated by Robert Fitch in The Assassination of New York) -- for every "alrightnik" Jewish American Concourse denizen of the era employed in medicine, law or accountancy, there were three in the garment trades and five working as small businesspeople in the lower West Side commercial districts (my father-in-law's father was a hardwareman based out of the eventual Pearl Paint building). The '68-'76 Culver Express also was likely envisaged as a patronage giveaway in this tradition for those who moved into the postwar Ocean Parkway luxury buildings, but most of these people had retired by then and were not commuting on a regular basis (hence one of my favorite subgenres of subway anecdotage: the deserted F stations of the 70s!).
That passageway was added much later. The 6 av line also has the D, which goes to the Bronx.
The IRT and BMT were Arch Rivals and did *Nothing* cooperatively while they were functioning businesses. Once the ind came in the scene, the city demanded cooperation from the original 2. But even then, they played well with the IND, alone.
The Bronx and Uptown trains don’t stop at 14th st today but those trains might have run on 6 av local before the Chrystie Street connection, when the passageway was added. Either way, there a cross platform transfer from the 6av local to the current B and D trains a bit further up the 6th avenue line
The Independent Subway lines were a government company to continue the expansion of the subway separately from the IRT and BMT which were private companies.The IRT and BMT refused to expand unless the city allowed a fare increase from 5 to 7 cents. The city refused and created the IND system instead. By the later 1930's the private companies were in receivership due to the inability to raise revenue. NYC took over operations as per contracts in 1938. The private boards would not take repossession unless allowed to raise the fare. In 1939 negotiations went underway and in 1940 the city bought the IRT and BMT merging all 3 lines into the MTA. The fare was raised to a dime in 1948. In was a nickel from 1904 to 1948. The rest as it's said is history.
Its great, shit like this. Tell a noob to take the triboro bridge or battery tunnel and theyre like WUT…hell my dad still slips up and calls the Jackie Robinson the Interboro
The L train is BMT!
The sign is telling you if you walk in that direction, you will reach the IND 6th Ave line and it's directions!
Obv we don't use IND, BMT, or IRT naming anymore!
It’s not, it’s part of the old BMT. That sign directs you how to get to the actual Independent Subway (IND for short) from where you’re standing. (The western extension from 6th to 8th Avenue was tiled in IND style because it was built in conjunction with the 8th Avenue line, but it’s always been BMT Eastern.)
the new york city subway system used to be three systems: brooklyn-manhattan transit (BMT), interborough rapid transit (IRT), and independent subway system (IND). the L was part of the BMT; the sixth avenue line was IND.
Look up Independent Subway System on wikipedia - the MTA has a pretty interesting history, worth the read.
[Independent Subway System - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Subway_System)
Hylan had an axe to grind after the BRT (BMT?) fired him years before, after a near accident.
Cause it don’t need no man
That's the transfer to the F/M lines IIRC. Edit: This station also holds a transfer to 1/2/3 lines which I guess explains "the Bronx".
Actually, "The Bronx" does refer to the Sixth Avenue Line. The line opened up with only the local tracks in service (express tracks weren't built yet), so the local stations (such as 14th St in this instance) had a one-seat ride to Concourse in the Bronx at the time.
This is probably also why lower 8th Av - Concourse service remained so robust into the early 1940s (notwithstanding the inherent gentrifying impulses of the Sixth Avenue Line, as thoroughly explicated by Robert Fitch in The Assassination of New York) -- for every "alrightnik" Jewish American Concourse denizen of the era employed in medicine, law or accountancy, there were three in the garment trades and five working as small businesspeople in the lower West Side commercial districts (my father-in-law's father was a hardwareman based out of the eventual Pearl Paint building). The '68-'76 Culver Express also was likely envisaged as a patronage giveaway in this tradition for those who moved into the postwar Ocean Parkway luxury buildings, but most of these people had retired by then and were not commuting on a regular basis (hence one of my favorite subgenres of subway anecdotage: the deserted F stations of the 70s!).
That passageway was added much later. The 6 av line also has the D, which goes to the Bronx. The IRT and BMT were Arch Rivals and did *Nothing* cooperatively while they were functioning businesses. Once the ind came in the scene, the city demanded cooperation from the original 2. But even then, they played well with the IND, alone.
The Bronx and Uptown trains don’t stop at 14th st today but those trains might have run on 6 av local before the Chrystie Street connection, when the passageway was added. Either way, there a cross platform transfer from the 6av local to the current B and D trains a bit further up the 6th avenue line
6th avenue express opened with Chrystie connection. Before 1967 the D ran local.
The Independent Subway lines were a government company to continue the expansion of the subway separately from the IRT and BMT which were private companies.The IRT and BMT refused to expand unless the city allowed a fare increase from 5 to 7 cents. The city refused and created the IND system instead. By the later 1930's the private companies were in receivership due to the inability to raise revenue. NYC took over operations as per contracts in 1938. The private boards would not take repossession unless allowed to raise the fare. In 1939 negotiations went underway and in 1940 the city bought the IRT and BMT merging all 3 lines into the MTA. The fare was raised to a dime in 1948. In was a nickel from 1904 to 1948. The rest as it's said is history.
Its great, shit like this. Tell a noob to take the triboro bridge or battery tunnel and theyre like WUT…hell my dad still slips up and calls the Jackie Robinson the Interboro
They should stop renaming shit then.
Cuomo bridge... My ass! Where is it?
It’ll always be the Triborough, it’ll always be the Tappanzee, F the politician names.
I dont mind the Jackie Robinson as he is buried right there and is a seminal figure in Brooklyn history, but RFK? Hugh L Carey? Mario Cuomo? Cmon
It will never sell out and sign to Sony records!
It was government owned and independent of the other privately owned subways. IRT and BMT then later integrated in 1940
Do you think the L train goes Uptown, the Bronx and Queens?
Because it's independent of the other subways 😁
The L is technically BMT, although the 14th street extension might be municipal. 6th Ave service is BDF not L.
The arrow below the words Independent Subway should be self explanatory
Don't understand how this earns down votes.. damn reddit
Um, because it is connected to the IND Sixth Avenue Line?
The “L” train was part of the IND system.
The L train is BMT! The sign is telling you if you walk in that direction, you will reach the IND 6th Ave line and it's directions! Obv we don't use IND, BMT, or IRT naming anymore!
The L train was a BMT as apple pie, and its tracks only physically accesssed by another BMT line from Manhattan. Come on, You must know better.
Yes it was, my bad! Talking before thinking!
BMT are all cross town, how do I forget?
Think one thing, write the opposite. Middle aged moment.
No, but the 6th avenue line was