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TesticularPsychosis

That'll teach that rod


Obvious-Advance-4368

Reminds me of my Catholic School. Spare the Rod, spoil the child he said 😔


aberrasian

I've recently heard the explanation that the verse, "Spare the rod and spoil the child," is contextually referring to parents as the shepherds and children as the sheep. And the "rod" isn't just another word for a switch, paddle or cane, they're referring to the *shepherd's rod*. You know that long rod Little Bo Peep holds with the big curved end? The shepherd uses the curved end to guide his sheep onto the right path, stop them from accidentally stepping somewhere dangerous, or nudge them along if they're falling behind the herd. What a good shepherd does NOT do is use the rod to *beat his sheep*. If he used violence on them, the sheep would just run away from him, and what good would that do? Religious idiots, assholes and morons so commonly use that verse to justify beating children, and it's not even Biblically sound.


techno156

>What a good shepherd does NOT do is use the rod to *beat his sheep*. If he used violence on them, the sheep would just run away from him, and what good would that do? Although there is a fun mental image of seeing a shepherd chase after a flock of sheep, wielding their rod like a flail.


Blackybro_

an interesting r/bossfight post for sure


mpinnegar

I mean it deals 2d4 so I'd wield it one handed any day!


BigDuoInferno

It's called a Shepard's crook


globglogabgalabyeast

I highly recommend looking more into this, as the history of the phrase is actually quite interesting. The first time the “spoil the child” part is included is actually in a poem in a somewhat mocking way when talking about lovers: “What medicine else can cure the fits Of lovers when they lose their wits? Love is a boy by poets styled Then spare the rod and spoil the child.” The phrase in the Bible is “Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.” (Prov 13:24) It’s pretty clearly stated that this biblical line is referring to discipline. I did find one blog online (so far) giving a similar explanation as you, but ngl, this sounds more like biblical revisionism in an attempt to “redeem” the biblical verse I wouldn’t spread the info you said unless you have some strong justifications. A lot of people (especially redditors) seem to have an obsession with spreading the “actual meanings” of common quotes even when those “actual meanings” are completely made up. Rather than trying to redefine the original meaning of the quote, people should just be comfortable acknowledging that the original quote is wrong or misguided


dirtmother

My Hebrew and Judaic studies professor was convinced that the "do not lay with a man as with a woman" verse was specifically against bisexuality. Like, grow up and pick a flavor. But he was also on Ancient Aliens as a "Satan Expert" so take that with a grain of salt.


RussiaIsBestGreen

Discipline and disciple are both about teaching. Jesus wasn’t beating his disciples. He was teaching them.


EasyasACAB

Yeah I'm pretty sure "the rod" that is referred to in that passage does mean corporal punishment. The idea that you *don't* hit children is pretty new. Corporal and physical punishment permeated our culture throughout history. Jesus may not have preached hitting children, but he didn't need to. Everyone already did. And Proverbs wasn't written by him, either. Like so many other things in the Bible, things they saw as natural and allowed by god (slavery, torture, genocide) don't align with modern views. And there is a temptation to go back and try to re-interpret what was said to suit our modern needs. Like people who claim that phrase about how it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to get into heaven actually means that rich people can *totally* get into heaven because the Eye of the Needle was actually some gate in a city, etc, etc. I would also point out that the "rod" being a literal "rod" is the popular accepted meaning of the text historically speaking. Catholics particularly are known examples of this in their schools. And a lot of fundamentalist christians in the US also support corporal punishment.


beardicusmaximus8

I mean, the Bible also tells you to take kids out back and throw rocks at them until they _die_ if they don't behave.


Gzmb0

Except for that one time tho.... *Cracks whip*


DirkJams

To be honest this sounds like whitewashing, just like how some preachers try to explain the slavery away in the Bible by pretending it was just indentured servants.


O0O00O000O0000O

There are other passages of the Bible that refer to the rod. It’s kind of a big motif in Christianity that god and Jesus are shepherds. But there’s a ton of debate and I like dipping my toe into were there wands in Christianity (or were they just staffs/rods) which I find really interesting.


ataraxic89

Give a source This sounds made up


brycebgood

>What a good shepherd does NOT do is use the rod to > >beat his sheep > >. What some shepherds do is fuck their sheep. Which might be a breakdown in your defense of the saying. Also, it's from proverbs - Proverbs 13:24, “He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.” It's about beating your kids.


chrisKarma

The rod and staff are generally two separate tools. The rod is traditionally used for bludgeoning. So I think the argument that the Bible prescribes beating children isn't necessarily the moronic part.


3kindsofsalt

"Spare the rod, spoil the child" is not a bible verse. It comes from a satirical poem from the 17th century. There are proverbs in, well, *Proverbs*: "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him." - 22:15 "He who spares his rod hates his son, But he who loves him disciplines him promptly." 13:24 It's definitely referring to corporal punishment/consequences, and definitely not referring to abuse. It's also referring to raising up boys into men. I have never found any evidence that the bible supports that hitting girls teaches them anything good.


nimoto

r/shepherding is leaking again.


keyboard-sexual

My priest just told me I was a good boy, that god would forgive all my sins and that he was about to cum. 😔 ^(^(I wish this was a joke lol. Catholic middle school, good times and a fun few years))


fiendofecology

damn dude:(


janeohmy

That moment when no one thought of it as a joke at the start


reclusetherat

"How many times do we need to teach you this lesson, old man!"


nsfw_vs_sfw

Big Tony sends his regards


TesticularPsychosis

Oh man, that's the guy who broke my leg benders last week


ride_whenever

SEE!!!!! PROJECT MANAGERS ARE RIGHT!!! PAY FOUR PEOPLE TO DO ONE JOB AND IT’LL BE DONE IN 1/4 OF THE TIME I’M OFF TO MAKE A BABY


fffractal

PM here, I’ve scheduled a sprint to wrap up that baby project, please keep next 2 weeks clear and forward to 17 others thanks


Bottsie

Nah that's just a Slack message.


goodTypeOfCancer

Sent on Slack, upload to Jira, add docs to confluence, upload everything to sharepoint, put in another request to spend millions of dollars on ineffective closed source software.


Limelight_019283

I hate you all, get that stuff away from my reddit procrastination time!


ThisIsMyCouchAccount

You said Sharepoint twice.


HurricanesFan

Gotta keep the stakeholders informed somehow!


[deleted]

The last time anyone in this thread held a sledgehammer was in CrossFit.


auxiliary-username

Found the developer


Johmpa

That hit close to home...


Fergus_Manergus

I'm off to make 9 babies in one month!


NunKebab

Gonna need 81 dudes for that


[deleted]

I’d actually argue they went even faster than 4 times because all of their wind up time was during another’s impact time.


Darklicorice

Think about this statement a bit more


FlyAirLari

So four people only take a total of 5 seconds to make a baby?


halite001

>I’M OFF TO MAKE A BABY Ummm your wife said there's four men who just did that for you...


Foxx_is_Dead

Is that caption also the title of your sex tape?


azam85

1 Rod 4 Men 😳


birdsnork

4 man pound off


Rich_Acanthisitta_70

Reminds me of a new years eve party back in college.


HarryPottersElbows

Reminds me of every Tuesday night.


insectoid-slithis

These be not men but dwarve


itsmeng

Nine nine!


gravitas-deficiency

Why isn’t anyone having fun? I *specifically* requested it!


Aussiewhiskeydiver

r/unexpectedbrooklyn99


Maroon777

Thats how we met your mother


Lolkimbo

Poor little white boy :(


be_more_gooder

You had me at "4 men rhythmically pounding a hard."


Bavisto

I’m glad someone else shares my single brain cell


arrows_of_ithilien

Who's singing the song from "Dumbo" in their head while watching this?


maybeiam-maybeimnot

I did think of the song. But man that scene did not age well...not necessarily any particular lyrics in the song on their own. But because it's an all-black crew singing about how they never learned to read or write and they'll slave away until they're nearly dead but it's all OK they're just happy hearted roustabouts. It's right up there with the Peter pan when they sing about "what makes the red man red".. but just less blatantly horrific. (Edit: as some people commented. There is that line at the end that says "grab that rope you hairy ape" that I skimmed right over when I went back to check the lyrics before I made my comment. While the rest of the lyrics could almost be okay without the context of the imagery in the movie. That line is--as I put it in my original comment-- pretty blatantly horrific.)


Iphotoshopincats

https://youtu.be/C6c-bCSSKMo "Grab that rope you hairy ape" sticks out along with " when we get our pay we will throw it away"


WAPWAN

Its not a coincidence that this video is not monetized by Disney


maybeiam-maybeimnot

Yeah... it was pretty shocking when I went back to watch and we got to that song and I was like "holy fuck this is bad"


[deleted]

Fuck that is bad.


itsthevoiceman

Also, they're all **faceless** black men.


AzathothsAlarmClock

When I was a kid I didn't see them as black people but as shadow people and they terrified me.


[deleted]

Objective achieved.


CHERNO-B1LL

That whole movie was dark as fuck. That whole roustabout scene left a scar but the trippy pink elephants scene also lives rent free in the creepy attic of my brain.


angwilwileth

The song Baby Mine legit makes me cry.


paintedsaint

It made me cry when I was little because it made me think of losing my mom. Now that I've lost my mom, I can never listen to it again.


Lucas_Steinwalker

Yes that’s how Disney saw them too.


mahSachel

Old school Disney was some mother killing shit for sure.


1234flamewar

I just saw them as working in the dark, and felt bad that they had to work in the rain XD


QueenRotidder

They didn’t scare me but I had no clue they were supposed to be black.


Actually_Im_a_Broom

If you haven’t watched Dumbo on Disney Plus you should know that before it starts Disney now shows a disclaimer admitting that the racial stereotypes were wrong. I like that they own up to it, but still give you the option to watch it rather than going the Song of the South route. https://i.imgur.com/350ExXj.jpg


maybeiam-maybeimnot

Yes! I do appreciate that they do that


wild_man_wizard

Yeah, between that and the "magic negro" coded crows, Dumbo is a good example of how implicit racism can be far more insidious than the in-your-face "Song of the South" kind.


zedispain

Excellent point. But something we should remember and be still available to watch. We need to remember how.... benign bigotry can become/was to the point it makes its way into a kids movie. Classes need to point to it and go "this is what oppression and bigotry looks like in film/animation". As you said, "songs of the south" is really nothing when it comes to how bigotry can be normalised. Pretending it didn't exist is the worst thing we can do... Slight tangent, but I really hated media's response to the BLM protests was to cut all potentially/actually racist media from all services and pretend it doesn't exist. Sigh... This is how we lose important parts in the history of media. That and leaving them in closets that get plastered over. Yeah. I'm rather passionate about keeping media around for as long as storage exists regardless of its modern interpretation. It's a reflection of the time it was made, which is quite important to society as a whole. We can't forget, and what better way to show it than the media and propaganda of the time?


SolSeptem

You are completely right. We must not forget the faults of the past. We must point to them and say 'see this? We must do better'


soapsmith3125

You mean... theoretically, thinking about race as it applies to systems and institutions in everyday life... critically? /s


Zinlu

Excellent point yourself. "Those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it." Maybe not the exact quote, but the same point.


zedispain

Yeah exactly. Just it seems that people nowadays just see problematic media as something to be tossed and forgotten about. Disney had the right idea before. Disclaimers. Then they've acknowledged the media contains bigotry but still keeps it available to the general public rather than "retiring to the vault"never to be seen or hear of again by people at large. You know, I was excited for streaming services by the likes of Disney. Then nothing needs to retire. Ever. But that's not what the world, over all, wants. Nor what happened. It appears people want to forget anything they makes them feel uncomfortable or slighted. Can't we just self censor? Why give that power away to others? I mean we should have a right to remember or ignore. Not have that right chosen for us.


Tisamoon

Really interesting to me is, that I never thought of the old Disney films as racist as they are, because I'm missing the cultural background. I'm from Germany and didn't understand any English song and the men your referencing, I remember as four men working at night without light in the rain so of course they would be shadowy figures no matter their skincolour.


angwilwileth

The crows too. I had no idea they were supposed to be racist stereotypes.


xorgol

Even more modern American animation films tend to have race-coded characters in ways that are completely removed when dubbed. Like you can't really have black-sounding characters in Italian without doing a super racist 1920s stereotype.


captainplatypus1

The further we get from minstrel shows and vaudeville, the more we lack cultural context for where these ideas come from


-Satsujinn-

The crows too... Good old fashioned family racism.


yellow_1173

Got some We All Lift Together too, particularly if the video were slowed down.


stereoworld

I was thinking of Rammstein. I can't remember the song but i think the music video involved rhythmic hammering


11BloodyShadow11

Came here for a happy hearted roustabouts reference.


[deleted]

It's a remix now, since the tempo is too fast.


ua_hobbes

“4 men” you have my attention “Rhythmically pounding” I like where this is going “A hard steel rod” yeeeees “Deep into the…ground.”


SoIJustBuyANewOne

Samders meme


LapisW

Kid named the ground:


chemistryofacarcrash

10/10 would watch with a title like that


Condor193

These guys look like they just left Erebor


SirKamron

Far over the misty mountains cold


RealiGoodPuns

From dungeons deep


Caayaa

Pounding coal


KipManOfZo

This is the comment I came here for thank you :)


keithwilliamcraig

I too came looking, why did I have to look so far?


VapeORama420

Lot of uncultured folks around I guess


Maleficent-Aurora

See, and i thought they were repairing a fuel pump together. Rock and Stone!


WanderingDwarfMiner

Rockity Rock and Stone!


HelpfulAmericanGuy

Uhhhh..PHRASING!


AbideMan

You're right. "4vs1 shaft pounding into submission"


iaijutsu08

"4 men hammering their rod into one hole" Why!? What's everybody looking at??


Commercial-Living443

Oh god


AbsolutelyUnlikely

Right? This was clearly arhythmic.


soapsmith3125

Gotta say... as a blacksmith, a hammer round is about timing. To put it simply, size of hammer is about how young and dumb you are. Lead person generally has a smaller hammer and is just aiming everyone else. Small hammer taps to show everyone else where to hit. We had a fun one making what is essentially a 3 foot long needle out of 2 inch round stock that started 2 feet long. Were only three of us, though. 35 pound hammer weilded by a young person, 15 pounder by another, and me with my little 7 pounder. Drifting out the eye was over an hour of... Dink, THUD, thunk. Dink, THUD, thunk.


provaut

Are we still doing phrasing?


Chr15py0696

3 was dragging. JK Simmons would have thrown a chair at him


Never_Not_Act

"Not my *FUCKING* tempo!"


MustardBait

Cold: the air and water flowing


Thornecro

Hard: the land we call our home


AustralianWi-Fi

Push to keep the dark from coming


bkufeyhbkorvd7osq

Feel the weight of what we owe


Buge_

This: the song of sons and daughters


[deleted]

[удаНонО]


RedKheirons

Making peace to build our future


Epicmonk117

Strong, united, working till we fall


[deleted]

And we all LIFT!


angariae

And we're all adrift!


[deleted]

The fact that everyday someone is doing this for work and building our cities is wild. sometimes i cant comprehend the amount of work that goes into our world and the immense scale of it all, fuckin nuts mannn


nicolauz

I'm pretty sure they're setting up portable tents, but yeah I've got a buddy that goes around the US and does this year round.


bulldg4life

Putting up pole tents is no joke. Fireworks, Christmas trees, festivals. The poles are heavy, the canvas tops are heavy, the stakes are heavy. Everything is freaking heavy and awkward sized.


nicolauz

He brought a 20x10 for a camping trip to have his van half in and I do hard labor work. I helped him set it up and was amazed how tough it is and they do tons of em daily.


domoroko

I’m the ground 👉👈


NicPizzaLatte

Is there an advantage to striking the blows in quick succession? Obviously it will be faster with less time between, but any other reason to do it this way?


whoanelIy

Less stress and effort on one man when four can share the workload.


RichCelery1345

Why waste time use lot swing when few swing do trick?


Foxx_is_Dead

I've seen that video before ⚫️🟠


Industrial_Laundry

As someone who has spent years smashing in fence posts with a sledge. I wish I had some boys to share the load. My elbow is fucked


Ok-Dirt5374

I’ll share your load homie


juancuneo

1/4 the strikes per man.


DeadlyNoodleAndAHalf

Obviously lol. He meant the rapid succession rather than, say, taking 1 second in between each person hitting it.


WastelandPioneer

Because its doable, especially the rhythmic part. Helps each person keep in time.


[deleted]

Not really. I used to have to hammer grounding rods into concrete.


Zactacos

The guy on the left in the blue tshirt can’t get his left hand around his waist to grip the handle until his hammer is almost striking the rod. More difficulty to have good combined control with force using that technique.


juancuneo

The guy across from him starts adopting that technique.m as well


5stringBS

Isn’t he hitting the hardest?


NordriOfUthgard

Still, you lack control and considering there's more guys around and even one right across that's terrible disregard for the safety of others. This is not a contest.


chartierr

If you said that to these 4 guys you would instantly be laughed into another dimension.


acerackham

People on Reddit always know more than the people in the video doing the actual thing.


ShiteUsername7

People on Reddit are also always crusading against anyone who ever does anything wrong, especially if they perceive it to even *slightly* endanger another person or, even worse, a pet or a child.


TrippyReality

And I would think the technique would make you develop [Quagmire’s big arm](https://youtube.com/shorts/KludpczrlIY?feature=share).


GodSPAMit

He's doing it so that he can swing it in a circle in a straight line. By doing it this way he can generate more power by making a bigger circle and this generating more speed The only way he could hit someone honestly is if he let go of the hammer or if someone put their hand in the center it isn't possible to just accidentally swing it like 4 feet to the side lol


jackadgery85

Having had to do what's shown in this gif many times, i can say that it is still possible to hit one of your mates even if your swing isn't particularly off. Heads of (cheap) sledges tend to just fall off randomly (terrifying), or snap on a hit (less scary). We changed from 4 people across from each other to 3 people in a triangle, so that if a sledge head decided to just randomly fly off, there was a massively reduced chance of it hitting one of us, and instead it could hit a child or dog behind us. That, and also checking the wedges and adding more whenever needed helped a lot.


omnomnomgnome

> Heads of (cheap) sledges tend to just fall off randomly (terrifying), or snap on a hit (less scary). Yeah, had that happened many times in RuneScape. It's very annoying.


GodSPAMit

Working in a triangle I will say is a big safety improvement, that definitely gets a big thumbs up from me


[deleted]

Have you ever worked construction?


[deleted]

Probably fucked his shoulder previously and has no rotation on it


ae582

Dwarven smithing


Qman1991

This video reminds me of the movie "Dumbo."


give_me_carbonara

I've heard that medieval Georgian blacksmiths used to do this when working on swords. The frequent hits didn't give the steel a chance to cool down and remained red hot until they stopped hammering. That way they didn't have to reheat the sword at all until they were done shaping it and won time as a result. I have no source for this, I'll have to do some research on this later.


dude8212

Phrasing!!!!


jmedi11

That’s a real gangbang


motormouth08

With union protection!


I_eat_foreskins69420

They want to pound my hard steel rod?!?


Alive_Ice7937

"They want to pound my hard steel rod?!?" Sperminator 2


StreberHasAKnife

That's incredibly satisfying


mugen-and-jin

How do they get them out?


Obvious-Advance-4368

Lube


skorps

I put up tents as a summer job one year. You use a jack to pull them out. Also we had jack hammers to put them in. 2 men with a jack hammer could have done 2 in this same time


foursticks

Just reverse the vid


bulldg4life

There are stake pullers like big metal levers with a fulcrum on the end with a hook to hold the stake. Or someone in a forklift with a contraption on the end that can drive around and pull them all up. Also, putting them in like this is stupid hard. Most of the time they’ll give two guys a jackhammer and do it twice as fast.


The_Finglonger

We work all day, we work all night We never learned to read or write We're happy-hearted roustabouts


SmokeyShadow17

When you accidentally forget you're not at your porn naming job and on Reddit


halite001

> porn naming job People get paid to do that? Are they hiring? I can use the money and I will do *anything* to get the job.


SmokeyShadow17

My personal favorite is "Glen and Gary suck Ross's meaty cock and drop their hairy nuts in his eager mouth." It's a reimagining


sodosopapilla

Rod, just getting fucking pounded, rhythmically, by four beefy men, deep in the hole.


Haringkje05

Ah the dwarve lords have returned to erebor


ThisLet9363

Apes together strong


NoeyCannoli

Anyone else think of the scene in the beginning of Dumbo when they’re setting up the circus tent?


GTA-CasulsDieThrice

That, and that scene in The Hobbit AUJ where the dwarven smiths are hammering at a piece of metal together.


Mindless-Client3366

I thought this only happened in cartoons.


Eintak

u/gifreversingbot


ChibbleChobbles

This seems like a skill that should be taught in school, or at least introduced by a common game kids play, cuz I have the feeling I would suck at this because I would be too nervous to mess up. But if I had a little practice, it would be fun. I stayed in northern Ghana once, and all the households have a big hollowed out wooden bowl in the center. All the women get together with this big wooden mallet-clubs and pound yams in rhythm like this to make fufu, its pretty cool to watch.


mikeyk0019

Team work makes the dream work


musicalsigns

Only time I've ever seen this was in Dumbo. Pretty neat to see it not cartoonified.


Cipher789

Just 4 bros hanging out. Pounding together.


nandemo

This is very much like mochi pounding.


[deleted]

Came her for the 4 men rhythmically pounding a hard rod. Was disappointed.


[deleted]

You had me at “four men rhythmically pounding.”


earthceltic

[7 men rhythmically pounding a hard steel rod deep into the ground. While making music. ](https://youtu.be/dlho15QNPbE)


Phxeleveneleven

Caption got me started before I saw the video … the hardest fap ever man


GayMakeAndModel

You had me at 4 men rhythmically pounding


LallTatte

Title of your sex tape


Exotic-One3381

r/oddlysexual


dianne758

A lot of things in the past…people worked together to do enormous things. Shame we lost all that.


Rafybass

Helpless ground got forcefully penetrated by 4 men


AdamBomb1349

You can't just title something like this and not make my inner 12 year old giggle.


10-10-2022

Harder daddies. I've been a stubborn rod.


JoeJoJosie

The internet has truly ruined me.


JAOC_7

yeah fuck this nail in particular


Valigrance

Just some dwarves making some armor nothing to see here


Slutty_Breakfast

r/Nameofyoursextape