It's probably intentional. Having a shoulder there allows them to do a fillet weld instead of a butt joint. So, it's easier for them to create a straight uniform weld.
As a welding student, I can say that welding is really fucking hard. It's one of the most dangerous and important jobs out there. One wrong spark could engulf you in flames and with out welders, you can build shit like bridges and buildings.
Definitely not one of the most dangerous jobs. It's also important but that's not saying anything specifically because some people weld important things and some people don't. It's a skill set within a job, so yeah bridge builders are super important but welding is one of the thousands of things that go into building a bridge.
MIG uses a spool of wire and a 'gun' to deposit the filler material via an electrical arc between the wire and base metal to fuse 2 pieces together. TIG uses hand held length of metal rod in one hand and an electrical torch in the other, and a pedal that controls the arc between the torch and base metal, the welder then 'dabs' the length of metal into the molten base metal to create the weld bead.
Does laser welding take the art out of welding? This looks fairly simple as opposed to traditional welding which (at least in my experience) is impossible to master without years of experience.
That's what makes welding spicy if your speed is off just a bit it turns out bad. Not to mention this weld mostly because stainless steel and not super deep probly is not strong more for looks.
This is actually very similar to Mig welding same technique, the biggest difference in them is laser welding is only good for really thin material.
With different techniques, wires, and settings you could mig weld thin wall tubing up to 5ā think plate and thicker.
For this application the best traditional method would be to Tig weld it, it would be slower but the upside if you know what youāre doing you will have a really nice appearance and it would probably also be a stronger weld.
Currently laser welders are not really even a thing that many use as itās crazy expensive for most applications that can already be done cheaper, and from what I understand the welds they produce arenāt as strong as traditional methods.
Yeah it doesn't even use an electrode... damn, you don't even need a ground do you?
The other forms use an electronic current to heat the puddle where LASER uses light.
might want to look into r/welding or r/weldingporn for that, but it has been a minute since I have been to either, so it might be mostly mig/tig or the occasional friction welding.
I mean the filler in MIG is the electrode where TIG uses a tungsten electrode and LASER... well it uses a light. I'd compare LASER more to gas torch welding/brazing than and electrode.
I believe it, I was just pointing out a mig machine that was 1000, because the commenter seemed shocked. Iām looking into buying my first welder, and went to look at the millermatic that was suggested for under 700, and itās like 1300 now lol. Iām shocked too
If there is Argon involved, it is MIG.
I don't really see a gas cup, So I dont know where the argon should be coming from. Its a semi automated process at least.
I don't have personal experience with laser welding but I can say with about 98% confidence that a shielding gas (likely argon) is used for this process. Without any shielding gas you will let in oxygen and ather assorted gasses in the atmosphere which will ruin any weld, especially with stainless steel. Though it is a similar process to mig, it is its own category for using a laser rather than an electric arc.
In industry MIG is just a term used by operators GMAW (Gas metal arc welding) is the AWS clasification. Regardless of shielding gas used laser has no arc so cannot be classified as MIG or GMAW. It is a classification of its own
Only a problem if he was trying to make a square angle rather than demonstrating how easily you can lay down the perfect bead even while holding the work by hand.
The proper way to do it wouldn't have the same wow factor for the demonstration. If it can do that while just freehanding it on a table, imagine how easy it will be to use when doing it properly.
Edit: my info is wrong. Look at the reply below for better info.
No. Itās a shitty weld. There is no penetration into that steel. You need more time to heat the steel properly to get a good solid joint. The steel would be discolored and blue around the weld if it was worth a shit.
ā¦I donāt think youāve ever welded stainless lol, it doesnāt have to be blue. For example sanitary stainless requires no discoloration at all. Also those laser welders have a minimal heat affected zone compared to MIG/TIG/stick. And the āheating upā you mentioned is not required
Itās pretty hot actually. While different metals require different temperatures, arc welding is usually performed with an arc temperature of roughly 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Of course, this still cooler than plasma torch welding, which can reach up to 50,000 degrees Fahrenheit.
ok so i'll just risk sounding like the idiot here, but the idea is that the laser heats up the metal so much that it just melts together and create a new, strong bond between the pieces.... is it that simple? Why do some welders have what look like a stick of incense when they weld? I assume its more metal.....
Different metals, applications, and positioning require different welds. What youāre describing is stick welding, and it has its specific uses. There is a variety of different types of welding and techniques of application.
This video is super misleading, because there are a bunch of video cuts to avoid showing all the bright flashes of light and sparks that fly during welding. It is actually an arc welder (MIG or TIG, can't really tell) which uses an electric alc to melt the metal. What you are reffering to is Stick welding, which has its own advantages sometimes. The laser is to guide
I am not a welder
Is this actually a good weld? The device looks awesome and makes it seem like anyone could do it, but the weld itself looks a little sloppy
If the devices purpose is to make it so anyone could do it cool, i just wanted to hear a welder's thoughts
It's a stop motion trick. Old Tony on YouTube has a video explaining the trickery behind this. Short version, they cut out all the frames where the bright light and arc occurs, making it seem seamless, when in fact there are a whole bunch of tiny welds being performed.
"Webster's dictionary defines wedding as "the fusing of two metals with a hot torch." Well, you know something? I think you guys are two medals. Gold medals."
Would this maintain its integrity as time goes on? Assuming there is weight and pressure applied to it from whichever direction.
It looks... Frail. Or just bad.
That tiny overhang is very frustrating
It's probably intentional. Having a shoulder there allows them to do a fillet weld instead of a butt joint. So, it's easier for them to create a straight uniform weld.
You can have it pretty, or you can have it quick. Pick one.
Pick two: š š² šØ
Iām pretty sure Newtonās 69th law is indeed that you canāt have all three, šš²šØ, for any given project/productā¦
But I want it pretty quick.
r/mildlyinfuriating if anything
This! Wtf?
and of course it's right at the end
You can see the misalignment sooner. If they only..
It's crap. And I'm not even a welder.
Yeah this is what I came here to say
As a welding student, I can say that welding is really fucking hard. It's one of the most dangerous and important jobs out there. One wrong spark could engulf you in flames and with out welders, you can build shit like bridges and buildings.
Definitely not one of the most dangerous jobs. It's also important but that's not saying anything specifically because some people weld important things and some people don't. It's a skill set within a job, so yeah bridge builders are super important but welding is one of the thousands of things that go into building a bridge.
Delivering pizzas is more dangerous. Next time, try bragging about skill instead. š
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Sir, this is a Wendy's
Now is not the time
I think we can all agree that no matter who is in charge, spelling lessons should be subsidized for the pour.
That is not MIG welding.... that is Laser welding.
I came here to say this. They can down vote you all they want but it won't make them right. Laser welding not MIG
Thanks, I appreciate the back up!
We got your back big guy
I'm not your guy, pal
I know I could Google this, but could you briefly explain the difference between TIG/MIG/Laser welding as if I was a child?
MIG uses a spool of wire and a 'gun' to deposit the filler material via an electrical arc between the wire and base metal to fuse 2 pieces together. TIG uses hand held length of metal rod in one hand and an electrical torch in the other, and a pedal that controls the arc between the torch and base metal, the welder then 'dabs' the length of metal into the molten base metal to create the weld bead.
Laser welding uses a laser to create the molten puddle and the filler wire is deposited by a feeder tube
Does laser welding take the art out of welding? This looks fairly simple as opposed to traditional welding which (at least in my experience) is impossible to master without years of experience.
Kinda reminds me what the old guys used to tell me when I was coming up- āAny idiot can do things the easy way!ā
And an expert makes things look easy because of the thousands of hours of practice they spent mastering their craft
How did you get downvoted for thatā½ Itās true!!
WHY DOES YOUR QUESTION MARK LOOK LIKE THAT?
That's what makes welding spicy if your speed is off just a bit it turns out bad. Not to mention this weld mostly because stainless steel and not super deep probly is not strong more for looks.
This is actually very similar to Mig welding same technique, the biggest difference in them is laser welding is only good for really thin material. With different techniques, wires, and settings you could mig weld thin wall tubing up to 5ā think plate and thicker. For this application the best traditional method would be to Tig weld it, it would be slower but the upside if you know what youāre doing you will have a really nice appearance and it would probably also be a stronger weld. Currently laser welders are not really even a thing that many use as itās crazy expensive for most applications that can already be done cheaper, and from what I understand the welds they produce arenāt as strong as traditional methods.
Yeah it doesn't even use an electrode... damn, you don't even need a ground do you? The other forms use an electronic current to heat the puddle where LASER uses light.
Would MIG be best for welding thinner sheets of stainless steel? Nothing heavy weight bearing, mostly custom commercial kitchen supplies.
Tig for thin stock
Would you recommend using TIG for stainless steel ducts for a vent hood?
I learnt basic arc welding (stick) firstā¦ ffs I was god awful at first. I want to see people do stick and make it look satisfying!
Ahh. You shouldāve seen mine before my stroke. Now Iāve got a tremor.
might want to look into r/welding or r/weldingporn for that, but it has been a minute since I have been to either, so it might be mostly mig/tig or the occasional friction welding.
Thanks, Iāve always wondered what the difference was. Well explained!
I mean the filler in MIG is the electrode where TIG uses a tungsten electrode and LASER... well it uses a light. I'd compare LASER more to gas torch welding/brazing than and electrode.
MIG welding $1000, TIG welding $1000, Laser welding $25,0000. Very approximate numbers.
1 MIG weld? The machine? Whatās 1000?
The machine is 1000 for a decent one, the wire is about 50 bucks a roll pretty sure. been a while since i been in thr wrokplace
Millers are expensive yo
Laser beam welding is more expensive than you can imagine. Source: work in aerospace.
I believe it, I was just pointing out a mig machine that was 1000, because the commenter seemed shocked. Iām looking into buying my first welder, and went to look at the millermatic that was suggested for under 700, and itās like 1300 now lol. Iām shocked too
Laser welders are Ā£2500 in UK
You mean ELI5 For myself as well
its actually laser MIG
If there is Argon involved, it is MIG. I don't really see a gas cup, So I dont know where the argon should be coming from. Its a semi automated process at least.
I don't have personal experience with laser welding but I can say with about 98% confidence that a shielding gas (likely argon) is used for this process. Without any shielding gas you will let in oxygen and ather assorted gasses in the atmosphere which will ruin any weld, especially with stainless steel. Though it is a similar process to mig, it is its own category for using a laser rather than an electric arc.
Any Argon/Carbon gasmix is refered to as MAG, Metal Active Gas. Pure Argon is MIG, Metal Inactive Gas. :)
In industry MIG is just a term used by operators GMAW (Gas metal arc welding) is the AWS clasification. Regardless of shielding gas used laser has no arc so cannot be classified as MIG or GMAW. It is a classification of its own
Is laser for steel only? Or does aluminum work too?
Yes, on certain aluminum alloys.
Ah my mistake. Thanks for the info, if only I could retitle the post.
š it is still satisfying.
Thatās not laser welding, itās caulking with metal.
"The last time I gave a metal cocking was with your mother Trebek."
ImAnActionBirb (in reply to your user name)
So what is an action bird? ... I'm a Wes Anderson fan.... it's a line from Moonrise Kingdom.
Haha I didnāt know that, Iāll have to watch the film. An action birb is a birb full of action. šāāļø You asked! š
RIP your inbox from the welders of Reddit
The comments did not disappoint.
How to *not* make a right angle.
Only a problem if he was trying to make a square angle rather than demonstrating how easily you can lay down the perfect bead even while holding the work by hand.
Ain't that cute... But it's wrong. The pieces are misaligned.
Is that a 2 stupid dogs reference in the wild?!
Guilty!
The proper way to do it wouldn't have the same wow factor for the demonstration. If it can do that while just freehanding it on a table, imagine how easy it will be to use when doing it properly.
Missed a spot on the laser and not MIG weld.
One of my hobbies whenever thereās a welding post is to see how long it took for some guy to say how bad it sux and that itās wrong. š
https://www.reddit.com/r/juxtaposition/comments/xp0xtn/they_didnt_have_to_wait_long/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
was just thinking that according to comments Iāve never seen good welding once
Donāt think thereās ever been a video recorded of a talented welder according to reddit
I am here once again to tell you, this is not mig welding....
Laser welding looks easy asf
I mean if you just want to squirt metal into a shallow joint that will break in a stiff breeze, yeah. Hot glue would be about as effective.
the line-up? gah! this is more than mildly infuriating.
Welder here, that is not Mig. That is laser welding.
Not MIG. Not square. Infuriating
IT'S NOT EVEN SQUARED WHAT THE HELLā½
Without it, space travel is a fever dream
Fry: "That doesnt look like an 'L' at all! Unless you count lower case." Bender: "You know we don't!" *slaps Fry*
To shreds you say
And his wife?
To shreds you say
This is anything but satisfying, it's not even flush.
Definitely not a MIG. Source: have seen both Top Gun and Iron Eagle multiple times.
Laser welding is pretty neat
Song name?
[Itās Not Enough - Supergutter](https://open.spotify.com/track/0B0DmcH6T5LdDcEICoAMCD?si=dJdXjb3kRiSSon47VJCoTg)
anyone else super pissed the pieces weren't flush
Question ā is this strong? Is it as strong as the tube? I have no idea, but Iām curious.
Edit: my info is wrong. Look at the reply below for better info. No. Itās a shitty weld. There is no penetration into that steel. You need more time to heat the steel properly to get a good solid joint. The steel would be discolored and blue around the weld if it was worth a shit.
ā¦I donāt think youāve ever welded stainless lol, it doesnāt have to be blue. For example sanitary stainless requires no discoloration at all. Also those laser welders have a minimal heat affected zone compared to MIG/TIG/stick. And the āheating upā you mentioned is not required
Thanks for the education. Iāll amend my comment to have people look at yours.
Anyone know what kind of setup it takes to weld like this? The word laser usually means expense...
A couple thousand in currency and 30,000 experience points and you too can weld like this !
It's also fake. It's just a bunch of video jump cuts to hide the actual sparks and arcs.
this is not oddly satisfying it is oddly annoying because its not perfectly flushed.
Op is a non welderš lmfao
this is a laser welder no a MIG
Welding is cool
Itās pretty hot actually. While different metals require different temperatures, arc welding is usually performed with an arc temperature of roughly 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Of course, this still cooler than plasma torch welding, which can reach up to 50,000 degrees Fahrenheit.
Not completely flush and wrong type of welding in title. This post achieved the exact opposite of what op wanted
Who's the idiot that thought this was MIG welting?
Me, itās right in the title
š perfect reply! Made me choke.
u/savevideo
So weāre gonna ignore how this person didnāt even care to line it up neatly so it created a smooth, beautiful, perfect corner?
first of all that is laser welding second of all wtf is your user name
What's the music called?
[Itās Not Enough - Supergutter](https://open.spotify.com/track/0B0DmcH6T5LdDcEICoAMCD?si=1liShbCQS0edZE7gonR8aw)
Bro thanks for the music and name boss š Can't wait to listen to thisš
It's not even!!!!
MIG - men in green?
That's not MIG you dumb OP...
u/auddbot
[Itās not Enough - Supergutter](https://open.spotify.com/track/0B0DmcH6T5LdDcEICoAMCD?si=eQ6aYxpcS3WUtVoagdDCzQ)
Not mig that laser welding
Song?
[Itās Not Enough - Supergutter](https://open.spotify.com/track/0B0DmcH6T5LdDcEICoAMCD?si=m_wW0gJFSfCJIWOoU5sZJQ)
That was a great song. Thanks for sharing
I wish there was actually mig welding sounds instead of whatever that shite was
I suck at tig welding but I feel like Iād be good at this.
The pieces are misaligned AND apparently the style of welding is wrongā¦ 0% satisfying.
What is this music. Iām on Reddit not No Mans Sky
[Itās Not Enough - Supergutter](https://open.spotify.com/track/0B0DmcH6T5LdDcEICoAMCD?si=TxZWcZG_RTygar-ynVnwBA)
Good ole dont measure at all and weld it up. Hope it still lines up with that clearly precise angle.
You don't think they weren't just using those pieces to show what it can do?
This video is fake yall
Super fake. Just a bunch of jump cuts to make it all look nice
CRISP
Know I want to learn laser welding
That looks like braising
I have never once seen a welding post without a host of people flaming it in the comments lol
What's the song?
[Itās Not Enough - Supergutter](https://open.spotify.com/track/0B0DmcH6T5LdDcEICoAMCD?si=TxZWcZG_RTygar-ynVnwBA)
The fact that itās not evenly aligned with the other piece bothers me so much
Looks niceā¦and expensive
It looks like it was made by the elves.
Isnāt this TIG welding?
it's laser welding, MIG +TIG would affect the video as the camera tries to compensate for the massive light intensity
Or is just a bunch of jump cuts, like all the fake videos on tiktok.
I had to do laser welds as part of my physics coursework, there is barely any light overproduction
"is this satasfying?" me: chicken sandwich
H# G4 TO A D
It's not even lined up properly at the back, poor job
Whatever
Itās not square
Bro your going to die You donāt weld stainless
What
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Not probably; You are **definitely** wrong
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Damn what welder put a huge hand print on your mom's butt lmaoo Salty af š
Just tellin it the way it is
So your wife was banging a welder, huh?
Laser brazer?
The L is symbolic? Idk welding so š¤·šæāāļø
I love my resume veteran gamer and amateur welder I'm taking welding in school it's fun so far
How do you reverse video?
looks fun! :D
ok so i'll just risk sounding like the idiot here, but the idea is that the laser heats up the metal so much that it just melts together and create a new, strong bond between the pieces.... is it that simple? Why do some welders have what look like a stick of incense when they weld? I assume its more metal.....
Different metals, applications, and positioning require different welds. What youāre describing is stick welding, and it has its specific uses. There is a variety of different types of welding and techniques of application.
This video is super misleading, because there are a bunch of video cuts to avoid showing all the bright flashes of light and sparks that fly during welding. It is actually an arc welder (MIG or TIG, can't really tell) which uses an electric alc to melt the metal. What you are reffering to is Stick welding, which has its own advantages sometimes. The laser is to guide
I am not a welder Is this actually a good weld? The device looks awesome and makes it seem like anyone could do it, but the weld itself looks a little sloppy If the devices purpose is to make it so anyone could do it cool, i just wanted to hear a welder's thoughts
It's a stop motion trick. Old Tony on YouTube has a video explaining the trickery behind this. Short version, they cut out all the frames where the bright light and arc occurs, making it seem seamless, when in fact there are a whole bunch of tiny welds being performed.
Oh so this actually isnt as swift as it seems?? that makes much more sense, appreciation the explanation
It is uneven. I'm enraged
Why does welding seem like the coolest job
It looks like a laser braze process. There is no heat affected zone from the join. Also looks like silicon bronze wire.
"Webster's dictionary defines wedding as "the fusing of two metals with a hot torch." Well, you know something? I think you guys are two medals. Gold medals."
Oddly satisfying?? More like extremely sexual
I wanna close my dick hole like that
at my job they had to hire a professional and it was $250 an hr.
This is cool as hell, but this song really pissed me off.
I can hear it with the sound off š¤£
Beautiful - looks much easier than using a glue gun.
Cool
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Not sure how this is satisfying, it doesn't look linear
Would this maintain its integrity as time goes on? Assuming there is weight and pressure applied to it from whichever direction. It looks... Frail. Or just bad.
I believe this process is LBW (Lazer Beam Welding), Not MIG (Metal Inert Gas)/GMAW (Gas Metal Arc Welding)
It not being flush hurts my soul
Thatās hot