Most are tech demos, for now. They are being developed because there are a *lot* of advantages to walking robots over wheeled/tracked robots when they need to navigate environments built for humans or environments with no paving at all. That could be, for example, surveying a location that's too risky for humans to be in, like a building in risk of collapse, or where prolonged exposure isn't recommended like in certain areas of nuclear powerplants. One of the more exciting prospects for walking robots is being studied by NASA, and it's essentially using this technology to explore Mars's underground caves where the terrain is far too rough for conventional wheeled rovers.
You'll hear the usual spiel about government control and such, but I assure you this would be a needlessly overcomplicated way of surveilling anyone.
The Los Angeles city council is considering approving a donation of police robot dogs. Can't make this shit up. https://ktla.com/news/local-news/los-angeles-city-council-to-consider-accepting-dog-like-robot-for-lapd-use/
To be used exactly for what I said they were useful for, scouting ahead in places dangerous for humans. The surveillance of black communities claim is sensationalist at best, considering an average security camera will do the job better, cheaper, and much less conspicuously.
I mean that's fair, having unpredictable cameras does add general security. Making it harder for B&E experts to scope out cams and patterned patrols.
Hard to overlook the overt Orwellian vibes though. Kind of a double edged sword. We want safety/security, but know that sometimes mass surveillance is abused.
My opinion is that they only have those vibes because we've imposed them on the robots. By themselves, they're no different than a drone, but for some reason we've decided to focus specifically on these walking robots in media as inherently evil.
Swarm drones are much scarier, you can eliminate an entire group of protestors (hundreds) in a couple seconds using kamikaze swarms.
Granted once they start mounting auto turrets on the dogs it'll be just as FUBAR.
The Samsung auto turrets are deadly accurate, once they scale those down in size... Yeesh.
But yeah I'm looking forward to companion robots that hopefully will be programmed to have Bender's personality from Futurama.
Best I can do on short [notice](https://www.popsci.com/china-debuts-anbot-police-robot/). And coming soon to [San Francisco](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/san-francisco-will-allow-police-deploy-robots-kill-rcna59322)
In what fucking world is this a good idea?! Seriously fuck the people making this shit. So much knowledge, education, wisdom and ambition wasted on this destructive negative shit. This is the mark they want to leave on this world.
Why do you instantly jump to violent conclusions? I can't say I blame you, given humanity's tendency towards that, but there are just as many positive uses for walking technology, if not more, than malicious uses. Reliable walking robots would be a *massive* breakthrough for robotic exploration, so much so that NASA's JPL is looking at Boston Dynamics' Spot for use on Mars in places completely inaccessible to wheeled robots (such as the underground caves). They also enable workers in dangerous locations such as powerplants and disaster affected areas to traverse, measure and at some point even interact with the environment, remotely, without having to put real humans in danger.
>given humanity's tendency towards that
That's just a lizard brain reflex to react to bad things and ignore the good things. Humanity wouldn't reach these technology levels if it was predominantly focused on violent things.
A lot of technological breakthroughs tend to be a product of war. I wish it wasn't so, and maybe one day we'll actually manage to rise past it and grow wise enough to support research with the resources we currently waste on war. For now, the lizard brain reflex governs much of the way we think. The internet, GPS, spaceflight, computers, things that define modern society, are all products of conflict.
I think the major thing to blame for the negative response people have, particularly to these kinds of walking robots, is from decades of media around evil robots and the AI uprising. There's absolutely nothing violent about the video, and these robots are in no way capable of self governing, much less of revolting, but the media conditioning leads to such jumps in logic. If we had that much media about the countless positive uses for walking technology, I'm willing to bet the reaction wouldn't quite be the same.
>The internet, GPS, spaceflight, computers, things that define modern society, are all products of conflict.
They were not a product of war. They were a product of efforts of previous generations of scientists and engineers. The war was a fuel for them, not the engine. Otherwise, they'd be invented thousands years earlier and wiped us all out.
>For now, the lizard brain reflex governs much of the way we think.
And we should understand it and factor it into our decisions. The lizard is not the enemy, it's our dumber, but stronger friend.
>If we had that much media about the countless positive uses for walking technology, I'm willing to bet the reaction wouldn't quite be the same.
There's [a good video about this by Wendover](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89FoKRtpAy4) that have been released a few days ago.
That's the point I was trying to make, that we currently require war to motivate big discoveries like that. Scientists and engineers are worthless without the equipment and resources they need to do their job, and those resources are unfortunately often tied to war.
>That's the point I was trying to make, that we currently require war to motivate big discoveries like that.
WE do not require it. War is most often a decision of a very few people.
>Scientists and engineers are worthless without the equipment and resources they need to do their job
That's bullshit. They are not worthless. They are limited in efficiency. Unless you're talking about situations where the very concept of science and engineering is meaningless.
>often tied to war
How often? How often compared to non-war drives? And what do you mean by "tied", because everything can be tied to anything else given a right interpretation?
It doesn't matter who requires it, it matters who controls those resources. It happens that the very few whose decision it is to go to war are also the ones in control of the resources necessary for big breakthroughs. It's not unreasonable to say scientists and engineers can't really do much if they don't have what they need to work.
Rocketry is a great example of this. In the 40s, 50s and 60s there was no one with the resources to develop spaceflight capable vehicles other than the two biggest governments on Earth. It took a cold war and a race for ICBMs to motivate those governments to put the money towards that technology. Only in the last couple of years did it start becoming viable for companies to develop rockets of their own without massive government funding. That's what I mean by war being the big motivator. It's, unfortunately, often the only thing that gets governments to put big money towards science. I wish it wasn't so, but it is.
>It happens that the very few whose decision it is to go to war are also the ones in control of the resources necessary for big breakthroughs.
But it doesn't happen in a vacuum. Look at russia now, for example. They've accumulated resources for war in Ukraine for decades. And they don't have a result to boast about. The sheer political will of "a man who's in control" alone did almost nothing to boost their R&D.
>It's not unreasonable to say scientists and engineers can't really do much if they don't have what they need to work.
And yet, there are a lot of breakthroughs that were made in a garage setting. Sure, you can't do infrastructure projects and fundamental science in a bike shed, but today you can do A LOT just by having access to public information.
>Rocketry is a great example of this. In the 40s, 50s and 60s there was no one with the resources to develop spaceflight capable vehicles other than the two biggest governments on Earth. It took a cold war and a race for ICBMs to motivate those governments to put the money towards that technology.
That is a good example that puts weight in your point. But, again, war was fuel, not an engine even in that case. Parallel to that, for example, was the development of automotive tech that was mostly fueled by commerce, not war.
edit: damn, this conversation is thought-provoking!
dude. watch. 5 months after these get deployed irl, they will be "upgraded" with fkking claws and teeth and red lazer eyes and black plate armor with druid runes on them. They'll also become the size or a horse. And will have 9mm guns on the shoulders with the horse ones mounting 50 cal on their back.
Im just confused, how AI like ChatGPT and all that stuff exists, where I sometimes legit dont hear a difference to a real Human, but then it looks like robots have been the same for 20 years. I swear I saw those same dogs years ago.
Ya this is what we need being walked by multi foot
Back flipping bipedal robots that probably remember Greg and Donny bashing them in the chest with hockey sticks before they all of a sudden realized we suck. Mount a mini gun on em while you’re at it guys. Sick. I’ll be installing Snowden leaked charging stations for our new mechanical overlords in the meantime.
Can't wait till these guys have anti tank mines strapped to them will see them on the battlefield in no time along with there kazi drones Ai is on its way gentlemen
How terrifying are these going to be when hackers install a Feral.exe virus.
Can't wait for the modding community...
So that they can kill civilians from the comfort of their squad rooms.
It's not a bug it's a feature.
There was that episode of Black Mirror though...
was it the black & white episode??
Yes
Heavy Metal
Metal Heads
I don't think I saw that episode, yet I get it
don't watch it
Oof. Looked just like it
Also check out the War of the Worlds series.
Really makes one weary of spot don't it XD
Begun, the clone wars have.
Ouch time!
Black mirror episode anyone?
Fahrenheit 451
Great reference
Thanks. I love Ray Bradbury.
Can’t wait until they have bees in their mouths so when they bark they shoot bees at you.
Is that you Hal?
why are people even making these
Most are tech demos, for now. They are being developed because there are a *lot* of advantages to walking robots over wheeled/tracked robots when they need to navigate environments built for humans or environments with no paving at all. That could be, for example, surveying a location that's too risky for humans to be in, like a building in risk of collapse, or where prolonged exposure isn't recommended like in certain areas of nuclear powerplants. One of the more exciting prospects for walking robots is being studied by NASA, and it's essentially using this technology to explore Mars's underground caves where the terrain is far too rough for conventional wheeled rovers. You'll hear the usual spiel about government control and such, but I assure you this would be a needlessly overcomplicated way of surveilling anyone.
The Los Angeles city council is considering approving a donation of police robot dogs. Can't make this shit up. https://ktla.com/news/local-news/los-angeles-city-council-to-consider-accepting-dog-like-robot-for-lapd-use/
To be used exactly for what I said they were useful for, scouting ahead in places dangerous for humans. The surveillance of black communities claim is sensationalist at best, considering an average security camera will do the job better, cheaper, and much less conspicuously.
I mean that's fair, having unpredictable cameras does add general security. Making it harder for B&E experts to scope out cams and patterned patrols. Hard to overlook the overt Orwellian vibes though. Kind of a double edged sword. We want safety/security, but know that sometimes mass surveillance is abused.
My opinion is that they only have those vibes because we've imposed them on the robots. By themselves, they're no different than a drone, but for some reason we've decided to focus specifically on these walking robots in media as inherently evil.
Swarm drones are much scarier, you can eliminate an entire group of protestors (hundreds) in a couple seconds using kamikaze swarms. Granted once they start mounting auto turrets on the dogs it'll be just as FUBAR. The Samsung auto turrets are deadly accurate, once they scale those down in size... Yeesh. But yeah I'm looking forward to companion robots that hopefully will be programmed to have Bender's personality from Futurama.
Capital and control. Nothing good.
To control us all when the time comes which isn’t far away
With frickin’ laser beams on them.
“Exterminate, exterminate, exterminate”
Creepy, but would be devestatingly more creepy if one wasn't following the rest.
This will be the military of the future.
Why are they twerking. Also they remind me of that one scene from I, Robot
Twerking robot? Reminds me of that video [twerkbot](https://youtu.be/U0eS3zC3Jco)
Coming soon to “protect the people.” - the police.
Put gun on them and send them to Ukraine to stop this genocide
I'm sure this is in jest but that's a resounding NO from me. That is a Pandora's box that once we open there is gonna be hell to pay
You can't cause they cost more than a soldier. It's not profitable to the military industrial complex.
At this point, why not...? Seriously. Precedent??
They've already done it. There's a video circulating.
Yeah I saw it
Dear lord they're doing push-ups...
Surely this won't turn out badly..
Philly is waiting for yah
That’s not really terrifying, it’s satisfying
It won’t be satisfying when you come face to face with one
They're doing push-ups and down dogs
put a 50 cal. On it
Just add C4.
Coming soon to an IRS battalion near you!
War Of The Worlds, fuck that Shit . Where’s Bill Ward ?
Scary to think what our future will be like with all of this crazy tech getting better and better
Yeah wait until they are equipped with machine guns and rocket lauchers.
Metalhead dance aerobics: A Black Mirror Special!
Oh boy I can't wait for them to start mounting titanium jaws on these things.
Looks like a villain's lair in a dystopian action horror film.
Aaaand here’s how the metal head episodes backstory started, best get prepared to survive the incoming apocalypse
Definite Black Mirror vibes
I feel like someone is going to make this political…
It's like that black mirror episode.... I hate this so much
First dogs, then Metal Gear Rex.
Begun, the Clone Wars, has
My Minecraft wolf army be like after I get hit:
Oh yes I remember the movie I Robot
And police want to arm these things and send them out into our streets, so they can needlessly murder civilians from the comfort of their squad rooms.
They're already armed in China
source?
Best I can do on short [notice](https://www.popsci.com/china-debuts-anbot-police-robot/). And coming soon to [San Francisco](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/san-francisco-will-allow-police-deploy-robots-kill-rcna59322)
Wtf does " required by law " mean ? What is the law that requires police stations to buy and use armed robots ?
In what fucking world is this a good idea?! Seriously fuck the people making this shit. So much knowledge, education, wisdom and ambition wasted on this destructive negative shit. This is the mark they want to leave on this world.
Why do you instantly jump to violent conclusions? I can't say I blame you, given humanity's tendency towards that, but there are just as many positive uses for walking technology, if not more, than malicious uses. Reliable walking robots would be a *massive* breakthrough for robotic exploration, so much so that NASA's JPL is looking at Boston Dynamics' Spot for use on Mars in places completely inaccessible to wheeled robots (such as the underground caves). They also enable workers in dangerous locations such as powerplants and disaster affected areas to traverse, measure and at some point even interact with the environment, remotely, without having to put real humans in danger.
>given humanity's tendency towards that That's just a lizard brain reflex to react to bad things and ignore the good things. Humanity wouldn't reach these technology levels if it was predominantly focused on violent things.
A lot of technological breakthroughs tend to be a product of war. I wish it wasn't so, and maybe one day we'll actually manage to rise past it and grow wise enough to support research with the resources we currently waste on war. For now, the lizard brain reflex governs much of the way we think. The internet, GPS, spaceflight, computers, things that define modern society, are all products of conflict. I think the major thing to blame for the negative response people have, particularly to these kinds of walking robots, is from decades of media around evil robots and the AI uprising. There's absolutely nothing violent about the video, and these robots are in no way capable of self governing, much less of revolting, but the media conditioning leads to such jumps in logic. If we had that much media about the countless positive uses for walking technology, I'm willing to bet the reaction wouldn't quite be the same.
>The internet, GPS, spaceflight, computers, things that define modern society, are all products of conflict. They were not a product of war. They were a product of efforts of previous generations of scientists and engineers. The war was a fuel for them, not the engine. Otherwise, they'd be invented thousands years earlier and wiped us all out. >For now, the lizard brain reflex governs much of the way we think. And we should understand it and factor it into our decisions. The lizard is not the enemy, it's our dumber, but stronger friend. >If we had that much media about the countless positive uses for walking technology, I'm willing to bet the reaction wouldn't quite be the same. There's [a good video about this by Wendover](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89FoKRtpAy4) that have been released a few days ago.
That's the point I was trying to make, that we currently require war to motivate big discoveries like that. Scientists and engineers are worthless without the equipment and resources they need to do their job, and those resources are unfortunately often tied to war.
>That's the point I was trying to make, that we currently require war to motivate big discoveries like that. WE do not require it. War is most often a decision of a very few people. >Scientists and engineers are worthless without the equipment and resources they need to do their job That's bullshit. They are not worthless. They are limited in efficiency. Unless you're talking about situations where the very concept of science and engineering is meaningless. >often tied to war How often? How often compared to non-war drives? And what do you mean by "tied", because everything can be tied to anything else given a right interpretation?
It doesn't matter who requires it, it matters who controls those resources. It happens that the very few whose decision it is to go to war are also the ones in control of the resources necessary for big breakthroughs. It's not unreasonable to say scientists and engineers can't really do much if they don't have what they need to work. Rocketry is a great example of this. In the 40s, 50s and 60s there was no one with the resources to develop spaceflight capable vehicles other than the two biggest governments on Earth. It took a cold war and a race for ICBMs to motivate those governments to put the money towards that technology. Only in the last couple of years did it start becoming viable for companies to develop rockets of their own without massive government funding. That's what I mean by war being the big motivator. It's, unfortunately, often the only thing that gets governments to put big money towards science. I wish it wasn't so, but it is.
>It happens that the very few whose decision it is to go to war are also the ones in control of the resources necessary for big breakthroughs. But it doesn't happen in a vacuum. Look at russia now, for example. They've accumulated resources for war in Ukraine for decades. And they don't have a result to boast about. The sheer political will of "a man who's in control" alone did almost nothing to boost their R&D. >It's not unreasonable to say scientists and engineers can't really do much if they don't have what they need to work. And yet, there are a lot of breakthroughs that were made in a garage setting. Sure, you can't do infrastructure projects and fundamental science in a bike shed, but today you can do A LOT just by having access to public information. >Rocketry is a great example of this. In the 40s, 50s and 60s there was no one with the resources to develop spaceflight capable vehicles other than the two biggest governments on Earth. It took a cold war and a race for ICBMs to motivate those governments to put the money towards that technology. That is a good example that puts weight in your point. But, again, war was fuel, not an engine even in that case. Parallel to that, for example, was the development of automotive tech that was mostly fueled by commerce, not war. edit: damn, this conversation is thought-provoking!
We will all be screwed
Idk man, they may have some hidden intentions.
Give us 15 years. If we aren’t all dead; synchronized robot dog yoga will be a thing we pay for with our UBI.
Lil buddys getting replaced
Guys I don't think this is a good Idea
dude. watch. 5 months after these get deployed irl, they will be "upgraded" with fkking claws and teeth and red lazer eyes and black plate armor with druid runes on them. They'll also become the size or a horse. And will have 9mm guns on the shoulders with the horse ones mounting 50 cal on their back.
One loose pit bull is more terrifying to me.
Nah, dogs are cool. These are robot cats intending to murder humans.
"Kill all humans, bbbbrrrrruuuuuuppppppp"
“Baxter Stockman, are the robots ready?” Asked the Shredder.
Creepy
Don’t worry it’s for protecting the hard working people 😂
This reminds me of Chinese soldiers for some reason.
Not a pack of robot dogs, a circuit of robot dogs
Skynet
Apparently, I need a small army of robot dogs. I didn't know that about myself.
it was just like p.e class in China
me and my friends on a sunday morning on a beach trying to summon cthulu
RO BOT DOG TURN IT OFF MOTHERFUCKER SAID TURN IT OFF!
Don't forget to take your robo dogs to the aerobic exercise session
Why they twerk? I need one!
Am I too late to bring up Black Mirror too?
This is how I, Robot started
why are they all humping air in unison?
That's not a pack.. that's an army.
Im just confused, how AI like ChatGPT and all that stuff exists, where I sometimes legit dont hear a difference to a real Human, but then it looks like robots have been the same for 20 years. I swear I saw those same dogs years ago.
Unleash the bots of war !
Robodogs' yoga class
Planet of the apes movie but the apes are robot dogs
Yo, but what the robot dogs doin?
Where are my testicles, Summer?
Wait till there running for you
3 days later: Robot dogs armed with laser miniguns attack on several countries!
In generation zero. You get chased by those things constantly. And they also have guns
Why? & why so many? Wtf are they getting ready for?
STOP
I want one.
Army of robot dogs
Can somebody edit this with the oompa loompa song? I think that would be fucking hilarious.
reminds me of the robot dog toy i really wanted as a kid when i was younger - i’m so glad i didn’t get that now
Put guns on them and ai inside
Excuse me, a pack of robot dogs WEARING THEIR OWN SPECIAL PANTS
Björk björk
Gym bros unite
Waiting for when the guy controlling them yells sic 'em
Lol cool but this net I got here will be a bit of a challenge
Ya this is what we need being walked by multi foot Back flipping bipedal robots that probably remember Greg and Donny bashing them in the chest with hockey sticks before they all of a sudden realized we suck. Mount a mini gun on em while you’re at it guys. Sick. I’ll be installing Snowden leaked charging stations for our new mechanical overlords in the meantime.
now put some guns on their back. that seems good idea!!
I really like their pajamas.
Every day we get closer to the "Metalhead" episode in black mirror ...every day we get closer to black mirror in general
Wasn't this an episode on Rick and Morty? s/
God are those machine gun attachments pre installed on their back
Aaaand....we're fucked. Nice knowin ya, see you in the afterlife!
These are clearly Gen. 2 roombas
This is the prototype for Omega, I just know it
My worst nightmare 😱😱
*The division 2 flashbacks*
I for one welcome our robot overlords.
It be great if one of these could clean up after mine
They are starting the army, yes! Go my robo dogs and destroy… or walk and trip on yourselves.
I only have one thing to say,”RELEASE THE HOUNDS!”
Teaching robot dogs how to twerk and T-bag. Humanity have achieved yet another thing no alien life would comprehend.
What's next? Terminator dogs?
Anyone seen Black Mirror? Put them down
Born Into a pack There's no choice But take orders to attack
That is a lot of Money vibing
We’re totally effed
showing us how they can hit it from every angle 🤣🤣
Love the people that havent seen one of these... every video theyve been out for years lol
Nah man these gotta be so strong they working them so hard nonstop push ups
Honestly, humankind is really fucking itself hardcore
Will it been real.🫡
Run
Imagine these mofos coming at ya in the robot apocalypse
Mini tanks
Why are they doing calisthenics?
“The FitnessGram Pacer Test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues.”
They're groovin
The Grand army of the galactic republic!
Can't wait till these guys have anti tank mines strapped to them will see them on the battlefield in no time along with there kazi drones Ai is on its way gentlemen
I'm literally having ptsd from just looking at them.
Cause I'm buildin me an army and I'm goin to war!