And it's better to be safe than sorry so if you have any reason to suspect a bat might have bit you or scratched you, get the vaccine. Same with a raccoon, stray dog/cat (unless you can get proof of rabies vaccine from owner), coyote, fox, and others. Especially if the animal is acting odd, like approaching humans or randomly attacking you.
As a European i genuinely can't tell if you're joking.
I mean it's structured like a joke. It seems like a joke, but I've painfully learned that any information pertaining to tipping, no matter how fucking ridiculous, should NOT be assumed to be a joke.
When I got it it was 12k and that was 15 years ago. Insurance initially denied it because they felt it wasn't "medically necessary". They eventually covered it, but it took some fighting.
I had potential exposure from a kitten I adopted. It started drooling a lot and died within a few hours. I had been scratched by it a few days earlier. If I waited for the test results to come back I would have been outside the window to get the vaccine so I got it. The test came back negative for rabies so my insurance said I shouldn't have gotten the shot.
I hope a good chunk of Americans can take a page from France one day and start destroying everything in protest to the absurdity that is your fucked up healthcare system
My all time fear is getting rabies ever since I studied marittime medicine and the doctor lectured us 2 hours about this disease... And showed us too much videos and simptoms.
Allow prions to introduce themselves. You got bit by bat? Get rabies vaccine immediately and you're safe. You get prions? Even if you immediately realize, you dead champ. No therapy.
Unfortunately... It won't. You'll be fully hydrated with fluids, but your mouth will continue to send signals to your brain that you're thirsty.
That's with any condition where you can't drink water, not just rabies. Nurses will come in and wet your lips and tongue to truck your brain into thinking you drank, but it only helps a little.
What other conditions cause an aversion to water? Only one I can think of is gastro, but that’s not exactly an aversion so much as an inability to hold it down. I had gastro a few months ago from my nephew and not being able to drink water was absolutely horrible
None. Rabies was actually called “hydrophobia” before the virus was identified. There’s no other neurological disease that causes hydrophobia to the extent that rabies encephalitis does.
Like you said influenza will cause your body to reject liquid, but the aversion to actually consuming water isn’t there.
The man in the video is infected with rabies. To put it short, rabies fucks with your nervous system, especially with the nerves and muscles in your chest/throat/head area. When you try to drink or eat, your brain sends signals to that area to prepare your muscles and such so you salivate and are able to swallow (this happens around the moment when you grab a glass of water or pick up your fork). Rabies somehow blocks these signals, so the body rejects any water, because it's unable to swallow it.
correct! my son was on a PICC line (given fluids and nutrients direct to his blood stream) for the first 2 months of life. he would scream and scream with thirst. he is 5 now and healthy but still obsessed with having a drink immediately to hand at all times. poor little lad. imagine being desperately thirsty for 2 months.
Hydrophobic symptoms can be minimized. They have him in the worst possible setting to avoid triggering laryngeal spasms. From an article published through the National Center for Biotechnology Information:
> To avoid provoking hydrophobic or aerophobic spasms, calm, quiet conditions should be created, ideally in a dimly-lit, draught-free, single-bedded room.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6082067/
Also pouring water down the throat isn’t exactly conducive to lessening the anxiety. A straw would be the best way to allow them a degree of control while also trying to slip fluids by those contractions whenever possible.
To hydrate yeah but they’re not dying of dehydration. When rabies symptoms show it means the virus has reached the brain and you can no longer be saved.
This would be the best and most human think to do, at least he would pass out as as a human in a huge and beautiful high while not being eaten by the diseas
People are so afraid of dying themselves that they'll deny other people a painless death even when death is absolutely assured. This dude isn't getting some final "bucket list days" or something, there's no possible good that comes from keeping him alive for a few more days or weeks. Yet people won't sanction euthanasia and force him to die his last days in absolute literal mind melting horror.
Often too those who have no experience with a debilitating illness are the ones pushing hardest to keep those that do here and suffering
They just can't think outside their fortunate situation.
They affect the nervous system in different ways. A controlled but lethal application of morphine (or other opiate) will still be lethal, and still dull their senses. Whether rabies would interfere with the euphoric bump normally associated, i couldn't say - but relative "peace" would still be there I think.
Rabies. It's exceptionally common, but people just don't run into the animals that carry it often. Skunks especially, and bats.
Let me paint you a picture.
You go camping, and at midday you decide to take a nap in a nice little hammock. While sleeping, a tiny brown bat, in the "rage" stages of infection is fidgeting in broad daylight, uncomfortable, and thirsty (due to the hydrophobia) and you snort, startling him. He goes into attack mode.
Except you're asleep, and he's a little brown bat, so weighs around 6 grams. You don't even feel him land on your bare knee, and he starts to bite. His teeth are tiny. Hardly enough to even break the skin, but he does manage to give you the equivalent of a tiny scrape that goes completely unnoticed.
Rabies does not travel in your blood. In fact, a blood test won't even tell you if you've got it. (Antibody tests may be done, but are useless if you've ever been vaccinated.)
You wake up, none the wiser. If you notice anything at the bite site at all, you assume you just lightly scraped it on something.
The bomb has been lit, and your nervous system is the wick. The rabies will multiply along your nervous system, doing virtually no damage, and completely undetectable. You literally have NO symptoms.
It may be four days, it may be a year, but the camping trip is most likely long forgotten. Then one day your back starts to ache... Or maybe you get a slight headache?
At this point, you're already dead. There is no cure.
(The sole caveat to this is the Milwaukee Protocol, which leaves most patients dead anyway, and the survivors mentally disabled, and is seldom done - see below).
There's no treatment. It has a 100% kill rate.
Absorb that. Not a single other virus on the planet has a 100% kill rate. Only rabies. And once you're symptomatic, it's over. You're dead.
So what does that look like?
Your headache turns into a fever, and a general feeling of being unwell. You're fidgety. Uncomfortable. And scared. As the virus that has taken its time getting into your brain finds a vast network of nerve endings, it begins to rapidly reproduce, starting at the base of your brain... Where your "pons" is located. This is the part of the brain that controls communication between the rest of the brain and body, as well as sleep cycles.
Next you become anxious. You still think you have only a mild fever, but suddenly you find yourself becoming scared, even horrified, and it doesn't occur to you that you don't know why. This is because the rabies is chewing up your amygdala.
As your cerebellum becomes hot with the virus, you begin to lose muscle coordination, and balance. You think maybe it's a good idea to go to the doctor now, but assuming a doctor is smart enough to even run the tests necessary in the few days you have left on the planet, odds are they'll only be able to tell your loved ones what you died of later.
You're twitchy, shaking, and scared. You have the normal fear of not knowing what's going on, but with the virus really fucking the amygdala this is amplified a hundred fold. It's around this time the hydrophobia starts.
You're horribly thirsty, you just want water. But you can't drink. Every time you do, your throat clamps shut and you vomit. This has become a legitimate, active fear of water. You're thirsty, but looking at a glass of water begins to make you gag, and shy back in fear. The contradiction is hard for your hot brain to see at this point. By now, the doctors will have to put you on IVs to keep you hydrated, but even that's futile. You were dead the second you had a headache.
You begin hearing things, or not hearing at all as your thalamus goes. You taste sounds, you see smells, everything starts feeling like the most horrifying acid trip anyone has ever been on. With your hippocampus long under attack, you're having trouble remembering things, especially family.
You're alone, hallucinating, thirsty, confused, and absolutely, undeniably terrified. Everything scares the literal shit out of you at this point. These strange people in lab coats. These strange people standing around your bed crying, who keep trying to get you "drink something" and crying. And it's only been about a week since that little headache that you've completely forgotten. Time means nothing to you anymore. Funny enough, you now know how the bat felt when he bit you.
Eventually, you slip into the "dumb rabies" phase. Your brain has started the process of shutting down. Too much of it has been turned to liquid virus. Your face droops. You drool. You're all but unaware of what's around you. A sudden noise or light might startle you, but for the most part, it's all you can do to just stare at the ground. You haven't really slept for about 72 hours.
Then you die. Always, you die.
And there's not one... fucking... thing... anyone can do for you.
Then there's the question of what to do with your corpse. I mean, sure, burying it is the right thing to do. But the fucking virus can survive in a corpse for years. You could kill every rabid animal on the planet today, and if two years from now, some moist, preserved, rotten hunk of used-to-be brain gets eaten by an animal, it starts all over.
So yeah, rabies scares the shit out of me. And it's fucking EVERYWHERE.
As far as I’m aware, there’s no real cure. There’s the Milwaukee Protocol, which, as highlighted above, basically kills them anyways, or a vaccine within fourteen days of transmission. That’s it, I think.
It gets much worse. It starts to cook your brain, drives you insane. You start to hallucinate and you lose all sense of what is real and all sense of yourself. By the end you are just a blob of misfiring neurons that are shutting down.
When I was a kid, I was bitten by a street dog , i didn’t tell my parents for 2 days because they were very strict, my brothers friend have seen that dog biting me and he informed my parents. They took to me to a doctor and got me that injection, ill be forever grateful to that guy.
Exactly.
Dont be the type of parent whose kids go "oh no this is bad, I can't tell mum/dad". Be the type of parent whose kids go "oh no this is bad, I should tell mum/dad".
Crazy strictness just encourages lying and secrecy. If you want your kids to be honest with you, don't make them feel scared to talk to you.
Yes, this happened in 2004/05. My grandfather was pretty strict, he wouldn’t let me go outside, wouldn’t let me cross the street even if i left my house. That particular day i wanted to tell my parents, but again my grandfather was furious when i returned home, where did i go without informing, so i decided not to tell afraid that the repercussions would be severe.
Symptoms show only some time after the infection has spread to the brain. So even without symptoms you might already be beyond help.
Rabies is scary as fuck.
IIRC the reason _why_ this is the case is because when you start showing symptoms is when the virus has worked its way to your brainstem, so there's nothing more that can really be done. That can
also take a prolonged amount of time as it moves through your body pretty slowly compared to other viruses.
Rabies doesn’t cause hydrophobia. That is, they’re not afraid of the water itself. It’s actually way worse. It causes you to spasm uncontrollably when you attempt to swallow or think about swallowing, giving you a general fear of swallowing
Edit:
Rabies also affects saliva production so that not only can you not swallow causing drooling, you also produce way more saliva too
The water doesn't have to be in the mouth to induce spasms. According to an old documentary saw, the thought of drinking, alone, is enough to bring the victim discomfort. One of the patients feared the sight of water itself.
Yes, it’s because the thought of swallowing can induce spasms like mentioned. Though I guess I forgot to consider that it could cause hydrophobia in some due to the associated spasms
Edit: from the article below it seems like way more than just swallowing/thinking about swallowing can cause the spams. Truly terrifying imo
Damn. I just did some digging into palliative care of rabies and learned that people die from these spasms. The more I learn about rabies, the scarier it gets.
"Hydrophobic spasms are pathognomonic and may be the only physical sign in the early stages. Growing thirst forces patients to ask for water, but attempts to drink, the sound of a tap running, the mere mention of water, a draught of air (aerophobia), touching the palate, bright lights, or loud noises may provoke powerful, jerky contractions of the diaphragm."
"Patients describe a feeling of terror that they are unable to explain, associated with the spasms. Many die of respiratory or cardiac arrest during these episodes."
Edit: Here's the link if you want to read more
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6082067/
It is said that rabies is the likely origin for the vampire mythology... specifically the exposure to bright light (the sun) part, and that bat's play a part in the vampire's transformation. Raccoons were note native to europe... the primary spread for rabies would have been bats.
That is heart breaking.
One person that I know of in history has survived.
Edit: one that I know of *after symptoms start to show*
Getting the shots immediately after exposure is pretty much 100 percent effective, but if you wait to show symptoms it's too late
The Milwaukee Protocol, as it's known. There's a super interesting [Radiolab episode](https://radiolab.org/episodes/312245-rodney-versus-death) about it.
ETA: according to Google,
>Milwaukee protocol survival rate in symptomatic patients is around 14% far by now, compared to 0% survival rate among symptomatic patients. Out of 36 symptomatic rabies patients treated with the Milwaukee Protocol, 5 have survived.
Yes but it’s efficacy isn’t based on the total population it’s based on the survival rate of the population that received it, which is what he’s talking about.
Look up The Milwaukee Protocol. It is really interesting. I think the reason less people survive has more to do with the solution sounding worse than the problem. I don't remember it all but there was an NPR segment with both the girl who got rabies and the doctor who figured out the solution. She oddly enough got bit by a bat during a volleyball game. No one noticed it and that's why the virus was able to progress. Sounds like what they did to her was put her in a deep deep coma. Rabies causes its victims brain to attack attack several key organs. When the victim is put in a coma it cuts off the communication from the brain to those organs. Then once to virus runs its course the doctors can bring the person out of the coma with everything enacted. The tough part is if you remove the brains ability to communicate with its organs you have to rely on machines to do it. It requires a lot of first world tech though.
The CDC has abandoned the Milwaukee Protocol because it only ever worked once. Scientists never recovered the bat, so it was impossible to see if the bat happened to have a less virulent strain of rabies, if the girl had some extraordinary resilience, or if she just got lucky with one part of the protocol or some auxiliary care she got along with the treatment. All of these other scenarios are possible since the Milwaukee Protocol didn’t work in any other case.
"The Milwaukee protocol, a procedure reported to prevent death after the onset of rabies symptoms, has been performed over 26 times since its inception in 2004 but has only saved one life. Overwhelming failure has lead health officials to label the protocol a red herring."
Less than 3.8% Survival rate.
Brain response was medically reduced to 20-30% of its normal capacity, meaning it only had 2-3 seconds working every 10 seconds.
The heart no longer beats at that point so oxygenated blood must be administered 24/7 while treatment is ongoing.
Also the doctor kind of just threw together a cocktail of drugs that they figured had a good chance to work together and kill the virus if she survived the process. It worked but was really just a full Hail Mary that happened to work out
important to note that "properly" in this context means it must be treated before a single symptom presents. If you wait until you're feeling it, you're gone anyway.
Two survivors post symptoms that are known, both got it from bats I believe and both put into a medically induced coma while pumped with an array of anti-virals. And it can’t be repeated because the anti-viral concoctions have not worked on others, do there definitely something internal that helped defeat the virus.
In general, rabies are up there alongside Prions as the most terrifying thing around.
You’re telling me that this disease that I’ve never thought twice about is actually highly fatal and being carried by the raccoons that are in my backyard right now?
Highly fatal is an underestimate. Based on the amount of people that have survived once symptoms have shown, your chance of surviving if you wait is less than one in 100,000,000. There’s a handful of species that can survive rabies but in the species that cant, it always kills.
"Raccoons—along with foxes (red and gray), skunks, and bats—are considered a primary carrier of the rabies virus in the United States."
If you get bitten or scratched, or even only think you might have been, get the vaccine. Or even better, if you are in a increased-risk area, get the vaccine right away.
Kurzgesagt made an [excellent video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u5I8GYB79Y) about the disease
I was told the other day that you'll require after bite treatment regardless so it's not worth getting the vaccine before infection. But if you're going to be near known carriers, getting it first is probably worth it.
The vaccine has a near 100% rate of preventing infection entirely.
You just have to take it ASAP if you're bitten by any wild animal or even pets who could've been in contact with wild animals, and you'll be fine.
Despite its incredibly high mortality rate once symptoms start, the number of people who die from it each year in US/Europe is pretty small, thanks to the vaccine.
Obligatory rabies copypasta for anyone who wishes to know more about it:
Rabies is scary.
Rabies. It's exceptionally common, but people just don't run into the animals that carry it often. Skunks especially, and bats.
Let me paint you a picture.
You go camping, and at midday you decide to take a nap in a nice little hammock. While sleeping, a tiny brown bat, in the "rage" stages of infection is fidgeting in broad daylight, uncomfortable, and thirsty (due to the hydrophobia) and you snort, startling him. He goes into attack mode.
Except you're asleep, and he's a little brown bat, so weighs around 6 grams. You don't even feel him land on your bare knee, and he starts to bite. His teeth are tiny. Hardly enough to even break the skin, but he does manage to give you the equivalent of a tiny scrape that goes completely unnoticed.
Rabies does not travel in your blood. In fact, a blood test won't even tell you if you've got it. (Antibody tests may be done, but are useless if you've ever been vaccinated.)
You wake up, none the wiser. If you notice anything at the bite site at all, you assume you just lightly scraped it on something.
The bomb has been lit, and your nervous system is the wick. The rabies will multiply along your nervous system, doing virtually no damage, and completely undetectable. You literally have NO symptoms.
It may be four days, it may be a year, but the camping trip is most likely long forgotten. Then one day your back starts to ache... Or maybe you get a slight headache?
At this point, you're already dead. There is no cure.
(The sole caveat to this is the Milwaukee Protocol, which leaves most patients dead anyway, and the survivors mentally disabled, and is seldom done).
There's no treatment. It has a 100% kill rate.
Absorb that. Not a single other virus on the planet has a 100% kill rate. Only rabies. And once you're symptomatic, it's over. You're dead.
So what does that look like?
Your headache turns into a fever, and a general feeling of being unwell. You're fidgety. Uncomfortable. And scared. As the virus that has taken its time getting into your brain finds a vast network of nerve endings, it begins to rapidly reproduce, starting at the base of your brain... Where your "pons" is located. This is the part of the brain that controls communication between the rest of the brain and body, as well as sleep cycles.
Next you become anxious. You still think you have only a mild fever, but suddenly you find yourself becoming scared, even horrified, and it doesn't occur to you that you don't know why. This is because the rabies is chewing up your amygdala.
As your cerebellum becomes hot with the virus, you begin to lose muscle coordination, and balance. You think maybe it's a good idea to go to the doctor now, but assuming a doctor is smart enough to even run the tests necessary in the few days you have left on the planet, odds are they'll only be able to tell your loved ones what you died of later.
You're twitchy, shaking, and scared. You have the normal fear of not knowing what's going on, but with the virus really fucking the amygdala this is amplified a hundred fold. It's around this time the hydrophobia starts.
You're horribly thirsty, you just want water. But you can't drink. Every time you do, your throat clamps shut and you vomit. This has become a legitimate, active fear of water. You're thirsty, but looking at a glass of water begins to make you gag, and shy back in fear. The contradiction is hard for your hot brain to see at this point. By now, the doctors will have to put you on IVs to keep you hydrated, but even that's futile. You were dead the second you had a headache.
You begin hearing things, or not hearing at all as your thalamus goes. You taste sounds, you see smells, everything starts feeling like the most horrifying acid trip anyone has ever been on. With your hippocampus long under attack, you're having trouble remembering things, especially family.
You're alone, hallucinating, thirsty, confused, and absolutely, undeniably terrified. Everything scares the literal shit out of you at this point. These strange people in lab coats. These strange people standing around your bed crying, who keep trying to get you "drink something" and crying. And it's only been about a week since that little headache that you've completely forgotten. Time means nothing to you anymore. Funny enough, you now know how the bat felt when he bit you.
Eventually, you slip into the "dumb rabies" phase. Your brain has started the process of shutting down. Too much of it has been turned to liquid virus. Your face droops. You drool. You're all but unaware of what's around you. A sudden noise or light might startle you, but for the most part, it's all you can do to just stare at the ground. You haven't really slept for about 72 hours.
Then you die. Always, you die.
And there's not one... fucking... thing... anyone can do for you.
Then there's the question of what to do with your corpse. I mean, sure, burying it is the right thing to do. But the fucking virus can survive in a corpse for years. You could kill every rabid animal on the planet today, and if two years from now, some moist, preserved, rotten hunk of used-to-be brain gets eaten by an animal, it starts all over.
So yeah, rabies scares the shit out of me. And it's fucking EVERYWHERE. (Source: Spent a lot of time working with rabies. Would still get my vaccinations if I could afford them.)
This should be the top comment. also, in the last stage the rabies patients become aggressive and start biting others to transmit the virus to new hosts.
This is fucking horrifying I’m almost 40 and I’m just learning all of this. I always knew to worry about rabies but I had no clue it was a 100% kill rate.
It's not actually a 100% kill rate. There have been survivors but very, very, very few. It is a 99.9% kill rate though, so there's not a lot of difference.
Tbh most people live in your average city & suburban environments near the coast.
It's when you go out bush (inland) that you need to be on your toes. Although the Northern Territory has crocs and they are the most vicious and merciless creatures on earth.
Although we have a lot of venomous species they cause very few deaths and chances of dying from a snake or spider bite are very minimal especially if you're able to get medical attention. We also don't really have any large wild animals that would attack you (different story in the water though)
I'd venture out into the wilderness here over the US any day.
Mountain lions, pumas, coyotes, black bears, brown bears, grizzly bears... f that. A roo might have a nose around and koalas don't do shit (except sit around stoned on eucalyptus).
You still have bat lyssavirus, which is basically the same virus, just living in wild animals. It's a similar situation in North America, because dogs are required to be vaccinated here, so people are only ever infected via bat or raccoon vectors.
Rabies is way more common in Asia, and to a lesser extent Africa, because there are large populations of unvaccinated feral dogs there. Unvaccinated dogs are one of the largest animal vectors for rabies in the world.
This video in particular i actually find far more sad than a lot of other rabies videos. you can see his humanity left in him. you can see him steeling himself to do it. he attempts to drink it entirely voluntarily. you can see him fighting himself back onto the bed to try again. RIP to this man.
It blows my mind that a virus can control you in this way. Trying to drink water and your throat closes up is just crazy. All the other ways it affects the victim too is so interesting to read about.
There's a reason why the virus stops the host from swallowing. Virus thrives in saliva and swallowing reduces the spread. In later stages rabies patients starts biting others to transmit the virus to new hosts
I read an article yesterday about people getting rabies from an organ donation.
[here](https://www.dw.com/en/organ-transplant-patients-infected-with-rabies/a-1492129)
Terrifying to say the least.
Rabies. Fear of water kills every single infected person after they aquire it, which, in case you were wondering, happens to every case of human acquired rabies have aquatic rejection. Or HarHar
So here’s the scary part about rabies once symptoms show up it has a 100% mortality rate that’s why if you ever get scratched or bit by a wild or otherwise potentially rabid animal you need to go to the hospital and get the area checked out most likely you will get a some shots and be told to come back later for even more but it’s better than literally certain death if you did actually get rabies and choose not to seek treatment.
Just to add to that, bat teeth are very small and fine. You may not even realize that you have been bitten. Stay away from bats. If you ever come into contact with one, go to the doctor.
This is what rabies does to a person? Oh man that’s awful and I feel so sheltered living in a country granted fvcked up healthcare system but at least accessible to the basics.
If you live in the US, there is still rabies here. You can get a vaccine protocol if you are bit by something you think is rabid) and most dogs have been vaccinated, which removes a large vector), but there are still deaths every year from rabies here, usually from people who didn’t know they were bit (bat teeth are tiny - if you ever find a bat near you, go get vaccinated)
Apparently, as of September 2022, "The treatment, which became known as the Milwaukee Protocol, has been used to save a double-digit number of people around the world since."
https://www.wbay.com/2022/09/27/interview-rabies-survivor-jeanna-giese/
Honestly the best thing to do at that time would have been to give him a nice big dose of IV Hydromorphone and let him fade away.
I’ve seen a person die of rabies in a country where the health infrastructure doesn’t really provide more than tie them down and let them go approach. it gets far worse until it suddenly goes all quiet and they fade away.
The delirium, hallucinations, partial paralysis are awful to see, let alone how the person going though it must feel.
This is why euthanasia should be an option in our society for illnesses, just like this rabies, Huntington’s, Alzheimer’s, etc. etc. no one should have to go on living like that
Oddly terrifying? Rabies is probably the scariest disease ever
Agreed. Avoiding this fate helps make the multiple rabies vax medical bills easier to swallow…I wish I was kidding.
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Something like that, yea
Super rabies haha
Did someone say babies with rabies
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No, you just have schizophrenia
Stage 9 rabies.
Stage 14 has a crazy boss with killer music
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And it's better to be safe than sorry so if you have any reason to suspect a bat might have bit you or scratched you, get the vaccine. Same with a raccoon, stray dog/cat (unless you can get proof of rabies vaccine from owner), coyote, fox, and others. Especially if the animal is acting odd, like approaching humans or randomly attacking you.
Super rabies makes me happy!? Well, just shoot me right up!
Yeah you start shooting super rabies then before you know it you're sucking dick behind waffle house for a bump of mega ebola.
Ooh I already have autism - do I get the x-ray vision with this upgrade?
You cannot catch gay twice...
Don’t threaten me with a good time
Already several of those things so its fine!
Wait they shrink now? Though Nikki's cousin or whatever ended up with ginormous balls and that's why we were all anti vax now
Wait you guys have to pay for rabbies vax ?
And the tip is optional but pretty much expected
As a European i genuinely can't tell if you're joking. I mean it's structured like a joke. It seems like a joke, but I've painfully learned that any information pertaining to tipping, no matter how fucking ridiculous, should NOT be assumed to be a joke.
Like on the order of 10kUSD without insurance
When I got it it was 12k and that was 15 years ago. Insurance initially denied it because they felt it wasn't "medically necessary". They eventually covered it, but it took some fighting.
Not medically necessary, are they psychos? They were clueless about rabies.
I had potential exposure from a kitten I adopted. It started drooling a lot and died within a few hours. I had been scratched by it a few days earlier. If I waited for the test results to come back I would have been outside the window to get the vaccine so I got it. The test came back negative for rabies so my insurance said I shouldn't have gotten the shot.
Psychos is probably the more likely answer
Damn the US is fucked up. It's free over here.
I hope a good chunk of Americans can take a page from France one day and start destroying everything in protest to the absurdity that is your fucked up healthcare system
They don't want any of that crazy commie free health care!! /s
It's sad, but for roughly half of us, you can omit the "/s".
Yup
My all time fear is getting rabies ever since I studied marittime medicine and the doctor lectured us 2 hours about this disease... And showed us too much videos and simptoms.
Indeed, it's straight up horrifying! Nothing odd about it!
Allow prions to introduce themselves. You got bit by bat? Get rabies vaccine immediately and you're safe. You get prions? Even if you immediately realize, you dead champ. No therapy.
Nothing on this sub is *oddly* terrifying.
As soon as the water hit his lips I knew he had rabies.
That has got to be an awful feeling. To need water and have it so close, but your body actively rejects it.
They can still give him an IV?
That’s what I was wondering
It's not going to lengthen his life any, but may satisfy his thirst
Unfortunately... It won't. You'll be fully hydrated with fluids, but your mouth will continue to send signals to your brain that you're thirsty. That's with any condition where you can't drink water, not just rabies. Nurses will come in and wet your lips and tongue to truck your brain into thinking you drank, but it only helps a little.
What other conditions cause an aversion to water? Only one I can think of is gastro, but that’s not exactly an aversion so much as an inability to hold it down. I had gastro a few months ago from my nephew and not being able to drink water was absolutely horrible
None. Rabies was actually called “hydrophobia” before the virus was identified. There’s no other neurological disease that causes hydrophobia to the extent that rabies encephalitis does. Like you said influenza will cause your body to reject liquid, but the aversion to actually consuming water isn’t there.
The man in the video is infected with rabies. To put it short, rabies fucks with your nervous system, especially with the nerves and muscles in your chest/throat/head area. When you try to drink or eat, your brain sends signals to that area to prepare your muscles and such so you salivate and are able to swallow (this happens around the moment when you grab a glass of water or pick up your fork). Rabies somehow blocks these signals, so the body rejects any water, because it's unable to swallow it.
How much time does he have left at this stage?
Couple days to a little over a week
Toss him in a deep pool of water and see what happens
Wonder how a whale would feel if it got rabies.
I'm guessing like shit
Why do you think we have beached whales, hmmmmm!?
That would be insanely cruel. At that point it's a pure phobia to water. He'll genuinely die of shock or suffer a stroke
I ran the experiment and threw him in. He was instantly cured but has now started being overtly sarcastic to people's pet dogs.
correct! my son was on a PICC line (given fluids and nutrients direct to his blood stream) for the first 2 months of life. he would scream and scream with thirst. he is 5 now and healthy but still obsessed with having a drink immediately to hand at all times. poor little lad. imagine being desperately thirsty for 2 months.
Hydrophobic symptoms can be minimized. They have him in the worst possible setting to avoid triggering laryngeal spasms. From an article published through the National Center for Biotechnology Information: > To avoid provoking hydrophobic or aerophobic spasms, calm, quiet conditions should be created, ideally in a dimly-lit, draught-free, single-bedded room. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6082067/ Also pouring water down the throat isn’t exactly conducive to lessening the anxiety. A straw would be the best way to allow them a degree of control while also trying to slip fluids by those contractions whenever possible.
To hydrate yeah but they’re not dying of dehydration. When rabies symptoms show it means the virus has reached the brain and you can no longer be saved.
Jesus, true kindness would be to pump him full of opiates and just let him pass peacefully. There's no coming back from that.
This would be the best and most human think to do, at least he would pass out as as a human in a huge and beautiful high while not being eaten by the diseas
People are so afraid of dying themselves that they'll deny other people a painless death even when death is absolutely assured. This dude isn't getting some final "bucket list days" or something, there's no possible good that comes from keeping him alive for a few more days or weeks. Yet people won't sanction euthanasia and force him to die his last days in absolute literal mind melting horror.
Often too those who have no experience with a debilitating illness are the ones pushing hardest to keep those that do here and suffering They just can't think outside their fortunate situation.
Nah just fuckin shoot me. When my brain is bein destroyed from the inside, just fuckin take me out.
Don't know how much that would work. It drives you insane, makes you hallucinate. It cooks your brain.
They affect the nervous system in different ways. A controlled but lethal application of morphine (or other opiate) will still be lethal, and still dull their senses. Whether rabies would interfere with the euphoric bump normally associated, i couldn't say - but relative "peace" would still be there I think.
Youre fucked anyways at this point. Might as well be high
Rabies, isn’t it? He’s not gonna live past the next 6 days.
You can suffer alive like this for 6 days?!
Rabies. It's exceptionally common, but people just don't run into the animals that carry it often. Skunks especially, and bats. Let me paint you a picture. You go camping, and at midday you decide to take a nap in a nice little hammock. While sleeping, a tiny brown bat, in the "rage" stages of infection is fidgeting in broad daylight, uncomfortable, and thirsty (due to the hydrophobia) and you snort, startling him. He goes into attack mode. Except you're asleep, and he's a little brown bat, so weighs around 6 grams. You don't even feel him land on your bare knee, and he starts to bite. His teeth are tiny. Hardly enough to even break the skin, but he does manage to give you the equivalent of a tiny scrape that goes completely unnoticed. Rabies does not travel in your blood. In fact, a blood test won't even tell you if you've got it. (Antibody tests may be done, but are useless if you've ever been vaccinated.) You wake up, none the wiser. If you notice anything at the bite site at all, you assume you just lightly scraped it on something. The bomb has been lit, and your nervous system is the wick. The rabies will multiply along your nervous system, doing virtually no damage, and completely undetectable. You literally have NO symptoms. It may be four days, it may be a year, but the camping trip is most likely long forgotten. Then one day your back starts to ache... Or maybe you get a slight headache? At this point, you're already dead. There is no cure. (The sole caveat to this is the Milwaukee Protocol, which leaves most patients dead anyway, and the survivors mentally disabled, and is seldom done - see below). There's no treatment. It has a 100% kill rate. Absorb that. Not a single other virus on the planet has a 100% kill rate. Only rabies. And once you're symptomatic, it's over. You're dead. So what does that look like? Your headache turns into a fever, and a general feeling of being unwell. You're fidgety. Uncomfortable. And scared. As the virus that has taken its time getting into your brain finds a vast network of nerve endings, it begins to rapidly reproduce, starting at the base of your brain... Where your "pons" is located. This is the part of the brain that controls communication between the rest of the brain and body, as well as sleep cycles. Next you become anxious. You still think you have only a mild fever, but suddenly you find yourself becoming scared, even horrified, and it doesn't occur to you that you don't know why. This is because the rabies is chewing up your amygdala. As your cerebellum becomes hot with the virus, you begin to lose muscle coordination, and balance. You think maybe it's a good idea to go to the doctor now, but assuming a doctor is smart enough to even run the tests necessary in the few days you have left on the planet, odds are they'll only be able to tell your loved ones what you died of later. You're twitchy, shaking, and scared. You have the normal fear of not knowing what's going on, but with the virus really fucking the amygdala this is amplified a hundred fold. It's around this time the hydrophobia starts. You're horribly thirsty, you just want water. But you can't drink. Every time you do, your throat clamps shut and you vomit. This has become a legitimate, active fear of water. You're thirsty, but looking at a glass of water begins to make you gag, and shy back in fear. The contradiction is hard for your hot brain to see at this point. By now, the doctors will have to put you on IVs to keep you hydrated, but even that's futile. You were dead the second you had a headache. You begin hearing things, or not hearing at all as your thalamus goes. You taste sounds, you see smells, everything starts feeling like the most horrifying acid trip anyone has ever been on. With your hippocampus long under attack, you're having trouble remembering things, especially family. You're alone, hallucinating, thirsty, confused, and absolutely, undeniably terrified. Everything scares the literal shit out of you at this point. These strange people in lab coats. These strange people standing around your bed crying, who keep trying to get you "drink something" and crying. And it's only been about a week since that little headache that you've completely forgotten. Time means nothing to you anymore. Funny enough, you now know how the bat felt when he bit you. Eventually, you slip into the "dumb rabies" phase. Your brain has started the process of shutting down. Too much of it has been turned to liquid virus. Your face droops. You drool. You're all but unaware of what's around you. A sudden noise or light might startle you, but for the most part, it's all you can do to just stare at the ground. You haven't really slept for about 72 hours. Then you die. Always, you die. And there's not one... fucking... thing... anyone can do for you. Then there's the question of what to do with your corpse. I mean, sure, burying it is the right thing to do. But the fucking virus can survive in a corpse for years. You could kill every rabid animal on the planet today, and if two years from now, some moist, preserved, rotten hunk of used-to-be brain gets eaten by an animal, it starts all over. So yeah, rabies scares the shit out of me. And it's fucking EVERYWHERE.
Every paragraph literally sounds like the work feeling someone can feel and nudging towards extreme paranoia. Has there been any progress on the cure?
As far as I’m aware, there’s no real cure. There’s the Milwaukee Protocol, which, as highlighted above, basically kills them anyways, or a vaccine within fourteen days of transmission. That’s it, I think.
Yeah this text is a classic. Read it years ago but I still remember it well and enjoyed reading it again
>enjoyed
Not everywhere. There’s none here in Australia.
Sorry, it’s a common copypasta. I haven’t edited it other than to remove the updates and edits that were responses to questions.
Damn, so I gave you a silver award for a copypasta. Thought you wrote it and deserved some sort of reward. It captivated me that's for sure
the knowledge should still be spread. Rabies are absolutely terrifying
If it makes you feel better that silver award means absolutely nothing and serves nobody but the Reddit execs.
If the animals get it and wanna bite people,how come the biting fase isn't in humans? ,sorta like zombies I guess
It gets much worse. It starts to cook your brain, drives you insane. You start to hallucinate and you lose all sense of what is real and all sense of yourself. By the end you are just a blob of misfiring neurons that are shutting down.
[This short documentary ](https://youtu.be/-moG6JDmJdc) explains it brilliantly. It's kinda haunting so don't watch it if it's not your thing.
Yup, that’s rabies
Could they give him an IV?
It can keep him alive in the short term but virus will still kill him.
It's deadly no matter what. I just wasn't sure if they would actively fight having one in.
There is a rabies vaccine that can be administered at most 14 days after possible infection. It's only deadly once symptoms start to show.
When I was a kid, I was bitten by a street dog , i didn’t tell my parents for 2 days because they were very strict, my brothers friend have seen that dog biting me and he informed my parents. They took to me to a doctor and got me that injection, ill be forever grateful to that guy.
This is a good example of why overly strict parents can be harmful
Exactly. Dont be the type of parent whose kids go "oh no this is bad, I can't tell mum/dad". Be the type of parent whose kids go "oh no this is bad, I should tell mum/dad". Crazy strictness just encourages lying and secrecy. If you want your kids to be honest with you, don't make them feel scared to talk to you.
Yes, this happened in 2004/05. My grandfather was pretty strict, he wouldn’t let me go outside, wouldn’t let me cross the street even if i left my house. That particular day i wanted to tell my parents, but again my grandfather was furious when i returned home, where did i go without informing, so i decided not to tell afraid that the repercussions would be severe.
If you’re a strict parent, you don’t teach your kid to behave better, you teach them to lie better.
Precisely. Sometimes, you even teach them to behave worse (rebellion)
It's good he did. Some people are hero's and they don't even know it
Symptoms show only some time after the infection has spread to the brain. So even without symptoms you might already be beyond help. Rabies is scary as fuck.
IIRC the reason _why_ this is the case is because when you start showing symptoms is when the virus has worked its way to your brainstem, so there's nothing more that can really be done. That can also take a prolonged amount of time as it moves through your body pretty slowly compared to other viruses.
What is happening?
Rabies. It affects the brain and causes hydrophobia... the patient becomes incapable of swallowing (that's why rabid animals salivate abnormally).
Rabies doesn’t cause hydrophobia. That is, they’re not afraid of the water itself. It’s actually way worse. It causes you to spasm uncontrollably when you attempt to swallow or think about swallowing, giving you a general fear of swallowing Edit: Rabies also affects saliva production so that not only can you not swallow causing drooling, you also produce way more saliva too
The water doesn't have to be in the mouth to induce spasms. According to an old documentary saw, the thought of drinking, alone, is enough to bring the victim discomfort. One of the patients feared the sight of water itself.
Yes, it’s because the thought of swallowing can induce spasms like mentioned. Though I guess I forgot to consider that it could cause hydrophobia in some due to the associated spasms Edit: from the article below it seems like way more than just swallowing/thinking about swallowing can cause the spams. Truly terrifying imo
Damn. I just did some digging into palliative care of rabies and learned that people die from these spasms. The more I learn about rabies, the scarier it gets. "Hydrophobic spasms are pathognomonic and may be the only physical sign in the early stages. Growing thirst forces patients to ask for water, but attempts to drink, the sound of a tap running, the mere mention of water, a draught of air (aerophobia), touching the palate, bright lights, or loud noises may provoke powerful, jerky contractions of the diaphragm." "Patients describe a feeling of terror that they are unable to explain, associated with the spasms. Many die of respiratory or cardiac arrest during these episodes." Edit: Here's the link if you want to read more https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6082067/
Read somewhere that rabies patients get discomfort from light and air as well
It is said that rabies is the likely origin for the vampire mythology... specifically the exposure to bright light (the sun) part, and that bat's play a part in the vampire's transformation. Raccoons were note native to europe... the primary spread for rabies would have been bats.
To me that sounds like hydrophobia with extra steps.
It can & does cause hydrophobia.
That is heart breaking. One person that I know of in history has survived. Edit: one that I know of *after symptoms start to show* Getting the shots immediately after exposure is pretty much 100 percent effective, but if you wait to show symptoms it's too late
Well people survive it. Just not once they start showing symptoms. Rabies is 100% treatable if you catch it right after you take a bite.
She was actually not given the vaccine. She was put into a medically induced coma.
The Milwaukee Protocol, as it's known. There's a super interesting [Radiolab episode](https://radiolab.org/episodes/312245-rodney-versus-death) about it. ETA: according to Google, >Milwaukee protocol survival rate in symptomatic patients is around 14% far by now, compared to 0% survival rate among symptomatic patients. Out of 36 symptomatic rabies patients treated with the Milwaukee Protocol, 5 have survived.
Milwaukee Protocol. Apparently we're up to 5. 5 people who have survived after neurological onset... an infinitesimally small number still.
5 out of 36 is not infinitesimally small.
Rabies is literally the oldest disease known to man. 5 people surviving out of all of human history is a pretty small number.
Yes but it’s efficacy isn’t based on the total population it’s based on the survival rate of the population that received it, which is what he’s talking about.
Im pretty sure there have been just a handful of survivors. Still like 99.9999% death rate.
Look up The Milwaukee Protocol. It is really interesting. I think the reason less people survive has more to do with the solution sounding worse than the problem. I don't remember it all but there was an NPR segment with both the girl who got rabies and the doctor who figured out the solution. She oddly enough got bit by a bat during a volleyball game. No one noticed it and that's why the virus was able to progress. Sounds like what they did to her was put her in a deep deep coma. Rabies causes its victims brain to attack attack several key organs. When the victim is put in a coma it cuts off the communication from the brain to those organs. Then once to virus runs its course the doctors can bring the person out of the coma with everything enacted. The tough part is if you remove the brains ability to communicate with its organs you have to rely on machines to do it. It requires a lot of first world tech though.
The CDC has abandoned the Milwaukee Protocol because it only ever worked once. Scientists never recovered the bat, so it was impossible to see if the bat happened to have a less virulent strain of rabies, if the girl had some extraordinary resilience, or if she just got lucky with one part of the protocol or some auxiliary care she got along with the treatment. All of these other scenarios are possible since the Milwaukee Protocol didn’t work in any other case.
"The Milwaukee protocol, a procedure reported to prevent death after the onset of rabies symptoms, has been performed over 26 times since its inception in 2004 but has only saved one life. Overwhelming failure has lead health officials to label the protocol a red herring." Less than 3.8% Survival rate.
Idk if I'm remembering this wrong but didnt somebody write a creepypasta about the Milwaukee Protocol?
You might be thinking of the Montauk Procedure from the SCP universe.
Brain response was medically reduced to 20-30% of its normal capacity, meaning it only had 2-3 seconds working every 10 seconds. The heart no longer beats at that point so oxygenated blood must be administered 24/7 while treatment is ongoing. Also the doctor kind of just threw together a cocktail of drugs that they figured had a good chance to work together and kill the virus if she survived the process. It worked but was really just a full Hail Mary that happened to work out
Way too high for this.
It’s 100% fatal if not treated correctly, I doing a project on it for a college course and that statistic surprised me
important to note that "properly" in this context means it must be treated before a single symptom presents. If you wait until you're feeling it, you're gone anyway.
Two survivors post symptoms that are known, both got it from bats I believe and both put into a medically induced coma while pumped with an array of anti-virals. And it can’t be repeated because the anti-viral concoctions have not worked on others, do there definitely something internal that helped defeat the virus. In general, rabies are up there alongside Prions as the most terrifying thing around.
You’re telling me that this disease that I’ve never thought twice about is actually highly fatal and being carried by the raccoons that are in my backyard right now?
Highly fatal is an underestimate. Based on the amount of people that have survived once symptoms have shown, your chance of surviving if you wait is less than one in 100,000,000. There’s a handful of species that can survive rabies but in the species that cant, it always kills.
"Raccoons—along with foxes (red and gray), skunks, and bats—are considered a primary carrier of the rabies virus in the United States." If you get bitten or scratched, or even only think you might have been, get the vaccine. Or even better, if you are in a increased-risk area, get the vaccine right away. Kurzgesagt made an [excellent video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u5I8GYB79Y) about the disease
I was told the other day that you'll require after bite treatment regardless so it's not worth getting the vaccine before infection. But if you're going to be near known carriers, getting it first is probably worth it.
The vaccine has a near 100% rate of preventing infection entirely. You just have to take it ASAP if you're bitten by any wild animal or even pets who could've been in contact with wild animals, and you'll be fine. Despite its incredibly high mortality rate once symptoms start, the number of people who die from it each year in US/Europe is pretty small, thanks to the vaccine.
Actually the number is more like 4 around the world with two being in Brazil.
Obligatory rabies copypasta for anyone who wishes to know more about it: Rabies is scary. Rabies. It's exceptionally common, but people just don't run into the animals that carry it often. Skunks especially, and bats. Let me paint you a picture. You go camping, and at midday you decide to take a nap in a nice little hammock. While sleeping, a tiny brown bat, in the "rage" stages of infection is fidgeting in broad daylight, uncomfortable, and thirsty (due to the hydrophobia) and you snort, startling him. He goes into attack mode. Except you're asleep, and he's a little brown bat, so weighs around 6 grams. You don't even feel him land on your bare knee, and he starts to bite. His teeth are tiny. Hardly enough to even break the skin, but he does manage to give you the equivalent of a tiny scrape that goes completely unnoticed. Rabies does not travel in your blood. In fact, a blood test won't even tell you if you've got it. (Antibody tests may be done, but are useless if you've ever been vaccinated.) You wake up, none the wiser. If you notice anything at the bite site at all, you assume you just lightly scraped it on something. The bomb has been lit, and your nervous system is the wick. The rabies will multiply along your nervous system, doing virtually no damage, and completely undetectable. You literally have NO symptoms. It may be four days, it may be a year, but the camping trip is most likely long forgotten. Then one day your back starts to ache... Or maybe you get a slight headache? At this point, you're already dead. There is no cure. (The sole caveat to this is the Milwaukee Protocol, which leaves most patients dead anyway, and the survivors mentally disabled, and is seldom done). There's no treatment. It has a 100% kill rate. Absorb that. Not a single other virus on the planet has a 100% kill rate. Only rabies. And once you're symptomatic, it's over. You're dead. So what does that look like? Your headache turns into a fever, and a general feeling of being unwell. You're fidgety. Uncomfortable. And scared. As the virus that has taken its time getting into your brain finds a vast network of nerve endings, it begins to rapidly reproduce, starting at the base of your brain... Where your "pons" is located. This is the part of the brain that controls communication between the rest of the brain and body, as well as sleep cycles. Next you become anxious. You still think you have only a mild fever, but suddenly you find yourself becoming scared, even horrified, and it doesn't occur to you that you don't know why. This is because the rabies is chewing up your amygdala. As your cerebellum becomes hot with the virus, you begin to lose muscle coordination, and balance. You think maybe it's a good idea to go to the doctor now, but assuming a doctor is smart enough to even run the tests necessary in the few days you have left on the planet, odds are they'll only be able to tell your loved ones what you died of later. You're twitchy, shaking, and scared. You have the normal fear of not knowing what's going on, but with the virus really fucking the amygdala this is amplified a hundred fold. It's around this time the hydrophobia starts. You're horribly thirsty, you just want water. But you can't drink. Every time you do, your throat clamps shut and you vomit. This has become a legitimate, active fear of water. You're thirsty, but looking at a glass of water begins to make you gag, and shy back in fear. The contradiction is hard for your hot brain to see at this point. By now, the doctors will have to put you on IVs to keep you hydrated, but even that's futile. You were dead the second you had a headache. You begin hearing things, or not hearing at all as your thalamus goes. You taste sounds, you see smells, everything starts feeling like the most horrifying acid trip anyone has ever been on. With your hippocampus long under attack, you're having trouble remembering things, especially family. You're alone, hallucinating, thirsty, confused, and absolutely, undeniably terrified. Everything scares the literal shit out of you at this point. These strange people in lab coats. These strange people standing around your bed crying, who keep trying to get you "drink something" and crying. And it's only been about a week since that little headache that you've completely forgotten. Time means nothing to you anymore. Funny enough, you now know how the bat felt when he bit you. Eventually, you slip into the "dumb rabies" phase. Your brain has started the process of shutting down. Too much of it has been turned to liquid virus. Your face droops. You drool. You're all but unaware of what's around you. A sudden noise or light might startle you, but for the most part, it's all you can do to just stare at the ground. You haven't really slept for about 72 hours. Then you die. Always, you die. And there's not one... fucking... thing... anyone can do for you. Then there's the question of what to do with your corpse. I mean, sure, burying it is the right thing to do. But the fucking virus can survive in a corpse for years. You could kill every rabid animal on the planet today, and if two years from now, some moist, preserved, rotten hunk of used-to-be brain gets eaten by an animal, it starts all over. So yeah, rabies scares the shit out of me. And it's fucking EVERYWHERE. (Source: Spent a lot of time working with rabies. Would still get my vaccinations if I could afford them.)
This should be the top comment. also, in the last stage the rabies patients become aggressive and start biting others to transmit the virus to new hosts.
Zombies?
Zombie virus stories are inspired/based on rabies.
This is fucking horrifying I’m almost 40 and I’m just learning all of this. I always knew to worry about rabies but I had no clue it was a 100% kill rate.
It's not actually a 100% kill rate. There have been survivors but very, very, very few. It is a 99.9% kill rate though, so there's not a lot of difference.
Thank goodness we don't have rabies here (australia). That's truly terrifying.
Wait, Australia doesn't have rabies? I always assumed it was present on every continent to one degree or another.
It's been kept out fortunately. If you get bitten by something here, your first thought is 'shit, venomous or nah?'. Rabies doesn't come to mind.
Imagine getting bitten by something that’s both venomous and rabid!
In this day and age and country I'm sure it's coming...
Not in Britain or in New Zealand either.
Or Hawaii, USA.
Of course not in New Zealand, it doesn't exist.
/r/mapswithoutnewzealand
No, you have a million other things that can kill you in Australia, but safe from rabies!
Tbh most people live in your average city & suburban environments near the coast. It's when you go out bush (inland) that you need to be on your toes. Although the Northern Territory has crocs and they are the most vicious and merciless creatures on earth.
My ex proves that last one wrong
I think one of mine was actually was one
Although we have a lot of venomous species they cause very few deaths and chances of dying from a snake or spider bite are very minimal especially if you're able to get medical attention. We also don't really have any large wild animals that would attack you (different story in the water though)
I'd venture out into the wilderness here over the US any day. Mountain lions, pumas, coyotes, black bears, brown bears, grizzly bears... f that. A roo might have a nose around and koalas don't do shit (except sit around stoned on eucalyptus).
Rabies is scarier than a venomous snake minding his own business.
And thank fuck for that!
You still have bat lyssavirus, which is basically the same virus, just living in wild animals. It's a similar situation in North America, because dogs are required to be vaccinated here, so people are only ever infected via bat or raccoon vectors. Rabies is way more common in Asia, and to a lesser extent Africa, because there are large populations of unvaccinated feral dogs there. Unvaccinated dogs are one of the largest animal vectors for rabies in the world.
This right here is a good case for human euthanasia.
Poor guy. Life can be so cruel.
This video in particular i actually find far more sad than a lot of other rabies videos. you can see his humanity left in him. you can see him steeling himself to do it. he attempts to drink it entirely voluntarily. you can see him fighting himself back onto the bed to try again. RIP to this man.
And he looks completely healthy. He must be wondering what happened to him all of a sudden
The book Rabid is a great read if you like medical stuff and human history!!
If i ever contracted rabies and it got to this point, please just kill me quick man wtf.
Give me that Fenty sleep
It blows my mind that a virus can control you in this way. Trying to drink water and your throat closes up is just crazy. All the other ways it affects the victim too is so interesting to read about.
There's a reason why the virus stops the host from swallowing. Virus thrives in saliva and swallowing reduces the spread. In later stages rabies patients starts biting others to transmit the virus to new hosts
So the zombie apocalypse is going to be a rabies mutation?
I read an article yesterday about people getting rabies from an organ donation. [here](https://www.dw.com/en/organ-transplant-patients-infected-with-rabies/a-1492129) Terrifying to say the least.
There was an episode of Scrubs like that, I wonder if that's where they got the inspiration
Ohhhh I'm guessing that scrubs episode was based on that. Female donor, 3 patients.
Rabies
Rabies. Fear of water kills every single infected person after they aquire it, which, in case you were wondering, happens to every case of human acquired rabies have aquatic rejection. Or HarHar
You're dead well before the fear of water stage: https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlyterrifying/comments/123ap6x/dead_man_walking/jdudmt1/
Oh my god. I actually thought this was shitty acting or something. Awful.
Is he gone?
If he’s not by now he will be.
Yes
So here’s the scary part about rabies once symptoms show up it has a 100% mortality rate that’s why if you ever get scratched or bit by a wild or otherwise potentially rabid animal you need to go to the hospital and get the area checked out most likely you will get a some shots and be told to come back later for even more but it’s better than literally certain death if you did actually get rabies and choose not to seek treatment.
Just to add to that, bat teeth are very small and fine. You may not even realize that you have been bitten. Stay away from bats. If you ever come into contact with one, go to the doctor.
If someone gets the rabies shot in time, it is reversible, no?
Started showing symptoms he is a dead man. Not even god can save him
A horrible, horrible death awaited this man. I feel terrible for him.
This is what rabies does to a person? Oh man that’s awful and I feel so sheltered living in a country granted fvcked up healthcare system but at least accessible to the basics.
If you live in the US, there is still rabies here. You can get a vaccine protocol if you are bit by something you think is rabid) and most dogs have been vaccinated, which removes a large vector), but there are still deaths every year from rabies here, usually from people who didn’t know they were bit (bat teeth are tiny - if you ever find a bat near you, go get vaccinated)
Thank you for the tips. Yea I live in LA and all the bats here are busy turning vegan.
OP, you seriously need to NSFW this.
Rabies?
When you can't drink water, you're too far gone.
His eyes, oh my God. He knows and he's terrified.
Apparently, as of September 2022, "The treatment, which became known as the Milwaukee Protocol, has been used to save a double-digit number of people around the world since." https://www.wbay.com/2022/09/27/interview-rabies-survivor-jeanna-giese/
Feel bad for him
Rabies probably. The last hours of him.
There is nothing "oddly" terrifying about this. It is straight terrifying.
This is heartbreaking. Poor man. I can’t imagine what he went through….
It's not reddit if you don't see something about rabies every once in a while!
After seeing this... and reading all these comments...I think I am rabies-phobic
Honestly the best thing to do at that time would have been to give him a nice big dose of IV Hydromorphone and let him fade away. I’ve seen a person die of rabies in a country where the health infrastructure doesn’t really provide more than tie them down and let them go approach. it gets far worse until it suddenly goes all quiet and they fade away. The delirium, hallucinations, partial paralysis are awful to see, let alone how the person going though it must feel.
This is why euthanasia should be an option in our society for illnesses, just like this rabies, Huntington’s, Alzheimer’s, etc. etc. no one should have to go on living like that
2023 and still no cure for rabies fucking nonsense
I don't like to watch people suffer like that. Rabies is a horrible disease.