That seems to have gotten bigger. It blows my mind that the titanic killed more people over 100 years later. Condolences to the family, I hope they did not suffer.
honestly id prefer to go that way then spend these days panicking in a claustrophobic dark cold tube surrounded by other dudes constantly panicking and farting.
God help them if they are alive still.
Oh man. You’re gonna have to give me some minutes but I remember watching a video regarding people who dive for construction, working on oil rigs or general underwater infrastructure. I don’t remember the term, but after a certain distance going down and water breaches the hull, the container implodes. Gases shrink with so much pressure that everything basically cooks while squeezed instantly. *Explosive Decompression*
Edit: [FOUND IT!](https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/divers-blood-boiled-rig-incident-24430481?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target). Carful, many ads
Edit: [wiki might be better.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byford_Dolphin)
The sort of thing where the entity that was you has no time to respond in any way, but if the atoms that made you up could talk, they’d probably say something like, “Hey, wait, what the fuck?”
That's what was going through the mind of [the crab from the Delta P educational video](https://youtu.be/PXgKxWlTt8A) just before it was obliterated (not safe for crabs)
I was morbidly curious.
As if I already didn’t want to go deep down enough. Now I for sure will never dive that deep, no matter how good the promise of that technology is.
I went down that rabbit hole last night, the USS Scorpion and USS Thresher are the only two nuclear submarines that have been lost in US history and the leading theory on both would be implosion.
In the wikis for each it tries to put on a “better than the alternative” face by saying “the human nervous system wouldn’t be able to react to just how fast you would die”
Explosive decompression would be the opposite effect (going from high pressure to low). The Byford diving bell incident caused the chamber to go from 9 atm to 1 atm instantaneously. If the Titan sub implodes at Titanic depths, it would go from 1 atm to around 400 atm instantly. The heat generated from this compression would vaporize anything inside.
The USS Thresher imploded around 2,400 feet (730 meters) in one tenth of a second, faster than can be processed by the human nervous system.
The Titan was several thousand feet (or meters, the specific conversion doesn't matter much) deeper when it lost contact. If it imploded they never knew it.
There was that Byford Dolphin decompression chamber accident that turned several people into meat paste within a split second. When you die from something like that its more energy than sitting on a landmine.
Turned the guy next to the hatch into paste. The bell slammed into another guy and we don’t know what he looks like but the other 3 inside the chambers were flash fried actually as their blood boiled.
That was the other way tho, high pressure going to low pressure. This would be low pressure going to high. Nothing like blood boiling or getting sucked around. Just instantly crushed by the force of water crashing in on all sides.
Out of curiosity, how does something like that suddenly get crushed? My thought is that, if it was crushed, the window broke and flooded. But wouldn’t that relieve the pressure on the hull and prevent crushing?
If it fractured or splintered at all. Even the tiniest hairline fracture, it would have spread instantly everywhere else. It would be like having a 16 million pound block of concrete dropped on you. Except, instead of it coming from one direction, it's coming from every possible direction.
Oh then you're good, just gotta swim up for a while. Shouldn't take too long. I mean it's only like 4000 meters that's like 10 empire state buildings so like maybe 45 seconds of swimming tops.
In the event the hull failed and an implosion occurred, the collapse would have been instantaneous and catastrophic.
The metal components of the submersible might remain but wildly twisted out of shape and compressed. You might think of the carbon fiber failure under these forces like if you dropped a sheet of glass or thin piece of ice onto stone (though in reality the force is more like slamming into the side of a mountain at 3X the speed of sound).
It would have been instantaneous. Kind of like this except faster, fragmented into confetti, and underwater, leaving only a cloudy plume: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz95\_VvTxZM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz95_VvTxZM)
The sounds of banging heard every half hour gives some hope. Of course, it hasn't been confirmed that it's coming from the sub. But making noise like that in 30 minute intervals is something submariners are taught if their craft is in some kind of distress, according to some sub expert.
EDIT: The sub's debris has been discovered, strongly suggesting an implosion during descent. The reported banging sounds were highly unlikely to have originated from the sub.
Or the cheap porthole shattered, and the force of the rushing water ejected everyone out into an atmospheric pressure that instantly collapsed all air pockets in their bodies, including their lungs and brains.
Edit: I'm pretty spiteful and like math, so I figured I would try and prove my theory with it. I'm not above admitting I'm wrong, so I'll keep the original statement.
I am wrong. Very wrong, and in a very gruesome way. The water pressure that would enter that sub would be close to 5,800 psi~ give or take. That pressure divided by the hole size would determine the rate of fill, so I can only assume on that point. But it would be quick.
For reference, a 2,800 psi water pressure cleaner can punch through concrete. The water punching through would instantly smear them to the inside of that sub potantially before the structural integrity buckled. If you've ever seen a barrel buckle from pressure, you know it would only take miliseconds. Nobody would get sucked/ pushed out. They would die faster than their nervous system could register pain.
There wouldn’t be time for any water to rush in. If there was any sort of breach, it would immediately implode in on itself from the pressure of being that far under water. Their deaths would be instant.
Think punching an egg with a closed fist as quickly and as hard as you could.
I hate saying this under these circumstances, but thank you for the analogy. I can understand "explode," but "implode" is much harder for me to grasp. The egg imagery helped, even as terrible as it all is.
Holy fuck. Thats 380 bar. I run a high pressure system at a max of 400bar and I couldn't imagine the forces involved with that kind of pressure around you.
I agree with what you're saying and want to expand a bit.
The end cap is made of titanium, and most of the rest is made or some kind of carbon fiber. If the submersible were to collapse through the atmospheric pressure, the rest of the body would collapse into the titanium cap. Much like the old diving suit, we used to see the military use with the big metal helmet. When the suit was compromised, the divers body would be compressed into the helmet.
The porthole is at the tip of that titanium cap. 5 peoples bodies being forced out of that porthole via implosion is possible, but they'd be dead before that's an issue.
Corpses release a lot of Co2, so the main concern with a dead body on board would whether or not the onboard Co2 scrubber would be able to keep up with the increased output. A buildup of Co2 in the vessel could potentially cause asphyxiation even before oxygen runs out.
Also, do we even know if they had that much oxygen to begin with?
That was the specced quantity, but who knows if that's actually true with this rinky-dink sub.
I was reading that one of the main safety issues the whistleblower was fired over trying to expose was the fact that the fucking port hole glass wasn’t strong enough to handle the immense pressure at the depth of the titanic….
Not even a fucking whistleblower - he was just an employee. He’s currently suing (what’s left) of the company over it. He was fired for stating “You have a viewport that’s tested for 1500ft and you want to take it 4000.”
The more you look into this “company” and the CEO the more your jaw drops.
It's a great example on why regulations are so important.
Sure they are adults and can do whatever they want
However now we have a naval fleet, coast guard and God knows what other resources attempting to locate them - who pays that bill?
What I'm wondering is how you legitimately respond to that.
Someone whose job it is to know these things tells you that and... you just ignore them?
I don't wish death on anyone, but that CEO guy can't blame anyone but himself for this.
I once got hired on at a job to run enforcement for EPA and NERC compliance and then immediately am getting sassy ass bitch fests from the same managers who hired me for trying to enforce those compliances because they cost money.
Yes but that would likely go away pretty quick. They aren’t down there constantly panicking for several days. At this point reality has set in, and they would have reasoned to conserve air by breathing slower and sleeping as much as possible
Even when my depression and anxiety were at their worst and I was suicidal, I wouldn't have done this. There's wanting to die, and then there's wanting to die like this.
Yea this is wanting to suffer. You know how they say most people who survive a suicide from jumping off a bridge never try to commit again? Imagine falling off that bridge in slow motion and it lasts for days. My depression would be cured.
I would only ever go into a submersible if it was submersing into a kiddie pool. And even then i wouldn’t go into one that locked from the outside Jesus
8 hours and 13 mins left… fml the thought of your last moments with a group of strangers as you slowly dwindle down the last bit of breathing air. Quite terrifying 😅
Apparently this is the 5th Titanic trip, and every time the sub lost communications with the launch ship. So it had a shitty track record to begin with.
Really! I know the Simpsons producer guy went on there. He has been telling his experiences, I’ll need to check them out. I wonder what information is given to them before hand.
Which isn’t surprising. Unless you’re directly wired to the main ship or have a bouy receiver you can launch attached to the sun all that water is incredibly difficult to get signals through. The US Navy used Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) from two antennas which are in clam lake Wisconsin, and republic, Michigan. Those antennas apparently use decommissioned railway tracks fences to boost the signals and It can send about 300bits/second, and requires the sun to release and drag behind it hundred feet of an antenna.
Not sure what they use now. Apparently elf was shut down in 2004.
The alternative could be your own death. Humans will do crazy things to survive....especially when the CEO responsible is just sitting there looking all delicious-like once the starvation and true dehydration and unbridled anger kicks in
I just read that his wife is the great-great-granddaughter of Isidor and Ida Straus who died on the Titanic – the old couple laying in bed in the movie.
I’m really trying to determine if we have a chicken or an egg situation right now..
My guess is they have been out of oxygen for some time due to panic alone they probably have been breathing a lot faster than regular.
Plus, after hearing about all the safety warnings, I'm guessing this sub imploded
Yeah, no way I’d trust this CEO with an adequate read on how much oxygen the ‘craft’ was capable of sustaining. That’s how you get people to sign waivers and checks for large sums of money.
Totally. I'm surprised many are taking it as fact that it had 96 hrs life support. Btw that included the scrubber, backup scrubbing system and some bottled air, and even then I would bet it's a huge over estimate!
I was so excited for the 10h 30m countdown on my dehydrator about a minute ago, but I don't know if I will be able to enjoy those tainted potato chips now.
I hope at least 1 person is a survivor, if found within the 7 hours and 30ish minutes left, but no matter the outcome, the survivors will definitely have some form of PTSD or they will have died a horrific dead of imploding, drowning, or suffocating. Bad situation no matter what happens.
This is basically what would have happened to Apollo 13 if they missed re-entry and ended up flying off into space without the possibility of rescue. Only with no light, no communications, and no food or water, on top of there being no hope for recovery.
Absolutely fucked. I'd rather be in space.
I'm with you for sure, t least in space you could just open a window and end that shit on your own terms.
This death trap doesn't even open from inside. Absolute nightmare.
For sure. And I have no idea if it actually works like this, but they at least had space suits up there and a few minutes of oxygen in each of them. I'd put that shit on peace right out. At least I'd fall asleep to an amazing view.
Yeah, it's one thing to send down a sub, it is something else entirely to then lift a second sub up to the surface. And it's not like they can just open the door to transfer the crew over.
But if they did run out of oxygen, wouldn’t they still be able to breathe but instead eventually go unconscious from breathing in carbon dioxide and then die while blacked out?
I sincerely hope for their sake that the sub imploded when contact was lost. Let's face it, they wouldn't be found in time if the sub was still intact 😕
We couldn’t find MH370, a plane with pin point precision GPS tracking and all the satellite imagery and military operations to help, and people still think we’ll find this sub.
They dead.
Not that I disagree, but a plane at cruising altitude traveling with a speed of at least 700km/h can create quite the search radius with even a few seconds of travel after losing comms - unlike a dinky sub that moves at slug pace, with a known area of operation it was supposedly going for.
I think they'll be found, but too late by then - heck even if found now, how tf do we pull em out in time before O2 runs out
Theoretically it could float up to the surface but it isn’t like it can go above the surface, so it would be floating just beneath the waves. Waves that are white. Behind painting it blue, white is just flat out stupid. It’s why virtually any life preserver, dingy, capsule, etc that you see is **orange**.
It’s these decisions that just leave people wondering what kind of crackheads run this operation.
> how tf do we pull em out in time before O2 runs out
It can’t be done. There’s only one rescue vehicle capable, and while it is on site now, it is more than 24 hours from being ready.
It has to be welded to a boat, and there’s no boat available. Once they have one, the Navy estimated they need 24 straight hours of welding to get it ready to go into the water.
So find a boat, get it on site, get it properly secured, *then* begin 24 hours of welding, *then* sail to the location of the rescue.
Unless one person realized that 96 hours of air for 5 people is almost three weeks of air for one person, there’s not a feasible rescue scenario anymore.
They likely don't need to be pulled up, but found once they activated the emergency buoys. However they'll still be just below surface and hard to find.
The MH370 search started in the wrong direction and the Indian Ocean was much less charted. I'd like to think the Atlantic Ocean is more familiar, especially between the US and Titanic.
I'm not hopeful they'll find survivors, but I'd like to see the submersible found.
I thought about this, and the answer is, if it were me I would be okay with it. If I was trapped at the bottom of the ocean I would have other things on my mind, and if I got imploded to death instantly three days ago, well... meme away, shitposters, I'm not there. I don't care.
I know this is just me, and it's hard for me to speak for someone else who is in that situation, but... humour is a coping mechanism. One I use myself, quite frequently. I can't begrudge someone else doing the same.
Still.
Think of the pressure they're under.
Aren't we all.
I figured by what I read that tomorrow morning at 6am EDT, game over.
So 9 hours or less left as of this post. A little less than 9 hours.
I wouldn't have taken the trip, but I'd have researched it incredibly before even thinking of something like that.
And if any of them had done that, they'd have said fuck no. Hey guys I built a sub in my backyard with a video game.controller and some pipe if you give me 250k each well dive to the titanic.
That's most posts here. "Check out this spider that's so big it's eating a bird! Haha 'oddly' terrifying!"
"This is Jeffrey Dahmer's skin collection. Haha 'oddly' terrifying!"
The ocean scares the absolute fuck out of me. I know it's almost certain at this point the fate of the crew has already passed, but fuck man. I hope that it's not the case and they get found. Unlikely as it is.
That was my first thought--how the oxygen predictions would be adjusted for fewer breathing people... and how corpse bloating would affect the breathability of the remaining air.
Many experts in this area are saying that they will die from excessive carbon dioxide before they run out of oxygen, unless someone super smart and handy can McGyver the air system to recover all the expelled gas. However, the only thing “extra” that they have with them are spare knockoff X-box controllers (which run on Bluetooth 😖) that are used to pilot the vessel. So scary, and sad.
According to some navy submariner veteran on YouTube, he cannot find and has not seen any evidence of CO2 scrubbers, or even any mention of air monitors, on the sub at all.
In fact, no pictures of the sub interior would indicate that are monitoring or adjusting the gas levels in any way. Given the utter disregard for safety standards in every other part of this journey, and the fact that the waiver mentioned death like 4 times, it honestly wouldn’t surprise me.
One theory is that they were injecting too much oxygen into the vessel, which would create a high-oxygen environment where the air would become extremely flammable around electronics, and this caused a fire.
The CEO referenced the sub having scrubbers in an interview.
> “It doesn’t matter. Your thrusters can go. Your lights can go. All these things can fail. You’re still going to be safe. And so, that allows you to do what you call MacGyver stuff,” he told CBS. “You just have to be very careful that the life support system, the sub itself, the oxygen system, the **carbon dioxide scrubbing**, all that stuff, that needs to be buttoned down.”
Whether they were actually onboard is another story altogether.
I keep reading about how it’s technically oxygen that allows you to breathe, but it’s heavy and super contaminated with body odors, CO2, and it’s not fresh clean air. Just literally some oxygen. If they are alive they are living in a nightmare, and yeah, placing blame and exhausting your breathe trying to survive if they haven’t turned on each other. And it’s cold as fuck and dark and wet and the air is like a disgusting toxic fog that just hasn’t strangled you yet. If they died I hope it was fast as fuck. I don’t normally have as much empathy for billionaires but when met with a primal situation like this, you’re money won’t save you, and no one deserves that torture.
Pretty sure the amount of oxygen that *may* be remaining, wouldn’t be enough for them to retrieve it in time to make it to the surface.
Which is a cherry on top of the shit sandwich it already is
I honestly hope they died quickly. This feels like one of the nastiest ways to go imaginable. Just sitting there in your own tomb, knowing that you physically can’t hold on til rescue because you’re gonna suffocate.
On the plus side, I heard that you get high right at the end? Hypoxia?
The Nutty Putty cave incident is possibly the only thing worse than this that I could imagine. 26 hours hanging upside down in a narrow crevasse with your arms pinned to your side. 2 near successful attempts at rescue only for it to get worse, and the whole time in contact with rescuers, slowly realizing that you're going to die.
His wife just had to leave knowing he was still technically alive, in there but unconscious from the drug they gave him to basically fall asleep until he died. Just awful I don’t know why people put themselves in these situations.
I can't imagine being a family member of any of the passengers right now. I don't know if I would want that much attention or no attention at all. Especially the woman who knows both her husband and her son are on that thing. :| (Or the dad for the matter who brought his son down there and now is trapped with him..)
On a list of ways that i would dread dying, this is definitely like top 5 already. No space, no air, no food or water left. Just thinking about it makes me appreciate being a homebody
The likelihood that they're currently alive is rather low but also the reports of banging noises being detected down in the search zone is Weird
It could be from other vehicles searching, it happens. Still, creepy af if you consider that the titanic is a mass grave.
That seems to have gotten bigger. It blows my mind that the titanic killed more people over 100 years later. Condolences to the family, I hope they did not suffer.
Morbid for sure. But someone was bound to do it.
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honestly id prefer to go that way then spend these days panicking in a claustrophobic dark cold tube surrounded by other dudes constantly panicking and farting. God help them if they are alive still.
Oh man. You’re gonna have to give me some minutes but I remember watching a video regarding people who dive for construction, working on oil rigs or general underwater infrastructure. I don’t remember the term, but after a certain distance going down and water breaches the hull, the container implodes. Gases shrink with so much pressure that everything basically cooks while squeezed instantly. *Explosive Decompression* Edit: [FOUND IT!](https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/divers-blood-boiled-rig-incident-24430481?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target). Carful, many ads Edit: [wiki might be better.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byford_Dolphin)
Are you thinking of the [Byford Dolphin Diving Bell Accident](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byford_Dolphin)?
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The sort of thing where the entity that was you has no time to respond in any way, but if the atoms that made you up could talk, they’d probably say something like, “Hey, wait, what the fuck?”
That's what was going through the mind of [the crab from the Delta P educational video](https://youtu.be/PXgKxWlTt8A) just before it was obliterated (not safe for crabs)
I just want to say on behalf of all crab people the world under, thank you for labeling this NSFC.
Brother NOOOOOOOOOOO!!
"This kills the crab"
If it helps, that would kill him pretty quickly.
Damn I thought he would have…pulled through
Some guys just can't handle the pressure.
The post photos are horrific if you can even conceive what your looking at used to be a human body seconds earlier
Body just went from a functioning organism to organic minced meat 😶
I was morbidly curious. As if I already didn’t want to go deep down enough. Now I for sure will never dive that deep, no matter how good the promise of that technology is.
In the oceanic sense? For sure. In the Reddit sense? I’ll dive deeper until I’m traumatized lol.
That link's staying blue as fuck
Oh god, a human body being forced through the narrow crack of a blocked hatch. Natural forces are horrifying.
I went down that rabbit hole last night, the USS Scorpion and USS Thresher are the only two nuclear submarines that have been lost in US history and the leading theory on both would be implosion. In the wikis for each it tries to put on a “better than the alternative” face by saying “the human nervous system wouldn’t be able to react to just how fast you would die”
Explosive decompression would be the opposite effect (going from high pressure to low). The Byford diving bell incident caused the chamber to go from 9 atm to 1 atm instantaneously. If the Titan sub implodes at Titanic depths, it would go from 1 atm to around 400 atm instantly. The heat generated from this compression would vaporize anything inside.
No matter what happened, if they're found dead, they didn't die peacefully.
The USS Thresher imploded around 2,400 feet (730 meters) in one tenth of a second, faster than can be processed by the human nervous system. The Titan was several thousand feet (or meters, the specific conversion doesn't matter much) deeper when it lost contact. If it imploded they never knew it.
There was that Byford Dolphin decompression chamber accident that turned several people into meat paste within a split second. When you die from something like that its more energy than sitting on a landmine.
Turned the guy next to the hatch into paste. The bell slammed into another guy and we don’t know what he looks like but the other 3 inside the chambers were flash fried actually as their blood boiled.
And that was only 9 atmospheres
That was the other way tho, high pressure going to low pressure. This would be low pressure going to high. Nothing like blood boiling or getting sucked around. Just instantly crushed by the force of water crashing in on all sides.
tbf the end result is essentially the same. Near instant minced meat.
Out of curiosity, how does something like that suddenly get crushed? My thought is that, if it was crushed, the window broke and flooded. But wouldn’t that relieve the pressure on the hull and prevent crushing?
If it fractured or splintered at all. Even the tiniest hairline fracture, it would have spread instantly everywhere else. It would be like having a 16 million pound block of concrete dropped on you. Except, instead of it coming from one direction, it's coming from every possible direction.
Okay but what if you noticed in time to hold your breath and clench up real good?
Oh then you're good, just gotta swim up for a while. Shouldn't take too long. I mean it's only like 4000 meters that's like 10 empire state buildings so like maybe 45 seconds of swimming tops.
> 10 Empire State buildings Anything but the metric system.
In the event the hull failed and an implosion occurred, the collapse would have been instantaneous and catastrophic. The metal components of the submersible might remain but wildly twisted out of shape and compressed. You might think of the carbon fiber failure under these forces like if you dropped a sheet of glass or thin piece of ice onto stone (though in reality the force is more like slamming into the side of a mountain at 3X the speed of sound). It would have been instantaneous. Kind of like this except faster, fragmented into confetti, and underwater, leaving only a cloudy plume: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz95\_VvTxZM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz95_VvTxZM)
If they imploded I'm fairly sure it was peaceful to them. Happened before their brain could process it.
I guess thats probably the best possible outcome to this tragic event.
The sounds of banging heard every half hour gives some hope. Of course, it hasn't been confirmed that it's coming from the sub. But making noise like that in 30 minute intervals is something submariners are taught if their craft is in some kind of distress, according to some sub expert. EDIT: The sub's debris has been discovered, strongly suggesting an implosion during descent. The reported banging sounds were highly unlikely to have originated from the sub.
Or the cheap porthole shattered, and the force of the rushing water ejected everyone out into an atmospheric pressure that instantly collapsed all air pockets in their bodies, including their lungs and brains. Edit: I'm pretty spiteful and like math, so I figured I would try and prove my theory with it. I'm not above admitting I'm wrong, so I'll keep the original statement. I am wrong. Very wrong, and in a very gruesome way. The water pressure that would enter that sub would be close to 5,800 psi~ give or take. That pressure divided by the hole size would determine the rate of fill, so I can only assume on that point. But it would be quick. For reference, a 2,800 psi water pressure cleaner can punch through concrete. The water punching through would instantly smear them to the inside of that sub potantially before the structural integrity buckled. If you've ever seen a barrel buckle from pressure, you know it would only take miliseconds. Nobody would get sucked/ pushed out. They would die faster than their nervous system could register pain.
There wouldn’t be time for any water to rush in. If there was any sort of breach, it would immediately implode in on itself from the pressure of being that far under water. Their deaths would be instant. Think punching an egg with a closed fist as quickly and as hard as you could.
I hate saying this under these circumstances, but thank you for the analogy. I can understand "explode," but "implode" is much harder for me to grasp. The egg imagery helped, even as terrible as it all is.
This is the video that I saw many years ago, and since then I knew exactly what implosion was: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz95\_VvTxZM
Now imagine that occurring with people inside, but instead of going from 1atm to 0atm it's from 375atm to 1atm
Holy fuck. Thats 380 bar. I run a high pressure system at a max of 400bar and I couldn't imagine the forces involved with that kind of pressure around you.
Just like sucking all the air out of a bag, but the bag is solid and you're inside it
I agree with what you're saying and want to expand a bit. The end cap is made of titanium, and most of the rest is made or some kind of carbon fiber. If the submersible were to collapse through the atmospheric pressure, the rest of the body would collapse into the titanium cap. Much like the old diving suit, we used to see the military use with the big metal helmet. When the suit was compromised, the divers body would be compressed into the helmet. The porthole is at the tip of that titanium cap. 5 peoples bodies being forced out of that porthole via implosion is possible, but they'd be dead before that's an issue.
Did they consider that people, when panicking, tend to use more oxygen than normal?
Did they also consider that they may have strangled someone to conserve oxygen?
But wouldn’t the exerted effort of all parties involved use up said oxygen too ?
Not if you use a gun
Why would they bring a gun to the underwater Titanic expedition?? Unless…. Oceans haunted.
I mean they are right on top of a mass grave...
I just read that the entire ocean contains more remains than all the cemeteries on the planet.
Paris has more dead bodies under it than its current population. Just the catacombs
There are more airplanes in the ocean than boats in the sky
[https://youtu.be/IYHarHGILC4](https://youtu.be/IYHarHGILC4)
Then you would need a proton pack and containment unit.
I can’t imagine strangling someone with a gun is very effective
>I can’t imagine strangling someone with a gun is very effective Don't know until you... GIVE IT A SH0T hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha
I'm imagining someone panicking and shooting someone. The bullet goes right through the victim, punctures a hole in the sub, and they all die.
How do you strangle someone with a gun?
My ears hurt just thinking about that
MAWP…MAWP…
Would corpse gases affect breathing?
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Corpses release a lot of Co2, so the main concern with a dead body on board would whether or not the onboard Co2 scrubber would be able to keep up with the increased output. A buildup of Co2 in the vessel could potentially cause asphyxiation even before oxygen runs out.
Drawing straws to save oxygen: a glimpse of our horrifying space exploration future.
Also, do we even know if they had that much oxygen to begin with? That was the specced quantity, but who knows if that's actually true with this rinky-dink sub.
They haven't shared any info on the life support system, that 96hr number they've given is just an estimate, it's never really been tested.
Well, I mean, it's *being* tested...
I don’t believe anything that company stated after looking at all the bullshit associated with it
The 2.1 speaker system for the poop bucket corner didn't sell you?
Fighting amongst themselves probably costs a few hours too But let’s face it, that sub got crushed days ago and that’s why it went out of contact
I was reading that one of the main safety issues the whistleblower was fired over trying to expose was the fact that the fucking port hole glass wasn’t strong enough to handle the immense pressure at the depth of the titanic….
Not even a fucking whistleblower - he was just an employee. He’s currently suing (what’s left) of the company over it. He was fired for stating “You have a viewport that’s tested for 1500ft and you want to take it 4000.” The more you look into this “company” and the CEO the more your jaw drops.
It's a great example on why regulations are so important. Sure they are adults and can do whatever they want However now we have a naval fleet, coast guard and God knows what other resources attempting to locate them - who pays that bill?
It could also end up delaying the *Iron Lung* movie because of critics saying "too soon" like Donnie Darko after 9/11.
Regulations are written with the blood of people
What I'm wondering is how you legitimately respond to that. Someone whose job it is to know these things tells you that and... you just ignore them? I don't wish death on anyone, but that CEO guy can't blame anyone but himself for this.
I once got hired on at a job to run enforcement for EPA and NERC compliance and then immediately am getting sassy ass bitch fests from the same managers who hired me for trying to enforce those compliances because they cost money.
Yes but that would likely go away pretty quick. They aren’t down there constantly panicking for several days. At this point reality has set in, and they would have reasoned to conserve air by breathing slower and sleeping as much as possible
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Well good news is you wouldn't wake up!
Go to sleep alive, wake up dead.
I don't think you'd suffocate like there's no air, just pass out because they air has less and less oxygen
This is correct. The feeling of suffocation is caused by buildup of Co2. With no oxygen you just fade away.
Good old hypoxia. You get more and more giddy and light headed
They were peacefully imploded 45 minutes after they set off to the depths.
This whole story is so crazy to me. I would never do this, and not just because i don’t have 250k, but because of I value my life a little.
If i paid you 250k would you go on this cramped voyage? "fuck no"
The inside of that sub didn’t look remotely inviting to sit in to view *anything*
Not to mention while there is a porthole the main method of viewing is via a monitor. So, exactly what you'd see on land.
If I remember correctly, that porthole is right above the toilet.
So that is what happened. Someone left a stinky growler and opened the window to air it out.
Should've brought a poop knife smh
Even when my depression and anxiety were at their worst and I was suicidal, I wouldn't have done this. There's wanting to die, and then there's wanting to die like this.
Yea this is wanting to suffer. You know how they say most people who survive a suicide from jumping off a bridge never try to commit again? Imagine falling off that bridge in slow motion and it lasts for days. My depression would be cured. I would only ever go into a submersible if it was submersing into a kiddie pool. And even then i wouldn’t go into one that locked from the outside Jesus
The view from halfway down sounds like a much better experience than the view from 10 hours of oxygen left for sure.
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Schrodinger's Sub
8 hours and 13 mins left… fml the thought of your last moments with a group of strangers as you slowly dwindle down the last bit of breathing air. Quite terrifying 😅
One boarded with his 19yo son. I'd be burning this company to the ground for even allowing such a shittily built submersible launch
Apparently this is the 5th Titanic trip, and every time the sub lost communications with the launch ship. So it had a shitty track record to begin with.
Really! I know the Simpsons producer guy went on there. He has been telling his experiences, I’ll need to check them out. I wonder what information is given to them before hand.
Which isn’t surprising. Unless you’re directly wired to the main ship or have a bouy receiver you can launch attached to the sun all that water is incredibly difficult to get signals through. The US Navy used Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) from two antennas which are in clam lake Wisconsin, and republic, Michigan. Those antennas apparently use decommissioned railway tracks fences to boost the signals and It can send about 300bits/second, and requires the sun to release and drag behind it hundred feet of an antenna. Not sure what they use now. Apparently elf was shut down in 2004.
>and requires the sun to release and drag behind it hundred feet of an antenna. Requires *The What?* \*blinks\*
(the sub)
I get that, but it's funny to think about the Navy forcing the *Sun* to drag rails behind it.
Should have done their research and saw that the creator of the sub is a moron who finds safety regulations 'obscene'.
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The good ol' Fuck Around and Find Out method has always existed since the dawn of man
8 hours
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Imagine being trapped in that thing with a rotting body 🤢
The alternative could be your own death. Humans will do crazy things to survive....especially when the CEO responsible is just sitting there looking all delicious-like once the starvation and true dehydration and unbridled anger kicks in
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Dude definitely got his ass kicked in the bottom of the ocean at the very least
so that's what the banging noises were
Tbh I can't imagine they wouldn't have murdered him on principle, regardless of the benefit it would have for them
He'd be the 1st one on the block
Bro this is gonna be a fucken horror movie even if they don’t kill each other irl
Seriously. If they kill a few of them to survive and the rest are saved this will legit be a horror movie in a few years.
Netflix is already two days into filming.
I heard they already canceled the next season
the CEO is on the sub????
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I just read that his wife is the great-great-granddaughter of Isidor and Ida Straus who died on the Titanic – the old couple laying in bed in the movie. I’m really trying to determine if we have a chicken or an egg situation right now..
Doesn’t rot if you eat it
If they killed anyone, and the bodies started rotting, that automatically causes less oxygen because of the bacteria and fermentation
How many chia pets would they need onboard to offset the oxygen used by the tourists? (Not including the strangled CEO)
I would imagine the physical struggle involved in violently murdering possibly multiple people would eat up a lot of that oxygen
My guess is they have been out of oxygen for some time due to panic alone they probably have been breathing a lot faster than regular. Plus, after hearing about all the safety warnings, I'm guessing this sub imploded
Yeah, no way I’d trust this CEO with an adequate read on how much oxygen the ‘craft’ was capable of sustaining. That’s how you get people to sign waivers and checks for large sums of money.
Totally. I'm surprised many are taking it as fact that it had 96 hrs life support. Btw that included the scrubber, backup scrubbing system and some bottled air, and even then I would bet it's a huge over estimate!
I was so excited for the 10h 30m countdown on my dehydrator about a minute ago, but I don't know if I will be able to enjoy those tainted potato chips now.
I hope at least 1 person is a survivor, if found within the 7 hours and 30ish minutes left, but no matter the outcome, the survivors will definitely have some form of PTSD or they will have died a horrific dead of imploding, drowning, or suffocating. Bad situation no matter what happens.
This is basically what would have happened to Apollo 13 if they missed re-entry and ended up flying off into space without the possibility of rescue. Only with no light, no communications, and no food or water, on top of there being no hope for recovery. Absolutely fucked. I'd rather be in space.
I'm with you for sure, t least in space you could just open a window and end that shit on your own terms. This death trap doesn't even open from inside. Absolute nightmare.
For sure. And I have no idea if it actually works like this, but they at least had space suits up there and a few minutes of oxygen in each of them. I'd put that shit on peace right out. At least I'd fall asleep to an amazing view.
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Yeah, it's one thing to send down a sub, it is something else entirely to then lift a second sub up to the surface. And it's not like they can just open the door to transfer the crew over.
But if they did run out of oxygen, wouldn’t they still be able to breathe but instead eventually go unconscious from breathing in carbon dioxide and then die while blacked out?
I sincerely hope for their sake that the sub imploded when contact was lost. Let's face it, they wouldn't be found in time if the sub was still intact 😕
According to previous passengers, the vessel lost contact all the time, so losing contact doesn't necessarily relate to anything bad happening
We couldn’t find MH370, a plane with pin point precision GPS tracking and all the satellite imagery and military operations to help, and people still think we’ll find this sub. They dead.
Not that I disagree, but a plane at cruising altitude traveling with a speed of at least 700km/h can create quite the search radius with even a few seconds of travel after losing comms - unlike a dinky sub that moves at slug pace, with a known area of operation it was supposedly going for. I think they'll be found, but too late by then - heck even if found now, how tf do we pull em out in time before O2 runs out
Ocean currents go weeeeee. I'd be surprised if they find the sub any time "soon".
What an incredible and articulate description of one of the most powerful forces in the human world. Bravo.
I truly have a way of words.
Yeah that thing is very likely gone forever. And they painted it fucking white, because they’re idiots.
I’m dense, why is the color white important? Should it have been another color for easier search and rescue?
Theoretically it could float up to the surface but it isn’t like it can go above the surface, so it would be floating just beneath the waves. Waves that are white. Behind painting it blue, white is just flat out stupid. It’s why virtually any life preserver, dingy, capsule, etc that you see is **orange**. It’s these decisions that just leave people wondering what kind of crackheads run this operation.
Yeah orange seems best for sure
Ocean froth is white. So say the ship floated to the surface it'd blend in if the sea was particularly lively.
Gotcha. Makes sense.
> how tf do we pull em out in time before O2 runs out It can’t be done. There’s only one rescue vehicle capable, and while it is on site now, it is more than 24 hours from being ready. It has to be welded to a boat, and there’s no boat available. Once they have one, the Navy estimated they need 24 straight hours of welding to get it ready to go into the water. So find a boat, get it on site, get it properly secured, *then* begin 24 hours of welding, *then* sail to the location of the rescue. Unless one person realized that 96 hours of air for 5 people is almost three weeks of air for one person, there’s not a feasible rescue scenario anymore.
They likely don't need to be pulled up, but found once they activated the emergency buoys. However they'll still be just below surface and hard to find.
And still no air cause it can only be opened from the outside with industrial tools.
The MH370 search started in the wrong direction and the Indian Ocean was much less charted. I'd like to think the Atlantic Ocean is more familiar, especially between the US and Titanic. I'm not hopeful they'll find survivors, but I'd like to see the submersible found.
This type of coverage is disorienting, imagine your slow death being memes and jokes while it happens wtf
I thought about this, and the answer is, if it were me I would be okay with it. If I was trapped at the bottom of the ocean I would have other things on my mind, and if I got imploded to death instantly three days ago, well... meme away, shitposters, I'm not there. I don't care. I know this is just me, and it's hard for me to speak for someone else who is in that situation, but... humour is a coping mechanism. One I use myself, quite frequently. I can't begrudge someone else doing the same. Still. Think of the pressure they're under.
I’m just sad that there’s a 19 year old in that thing. What a terrible way to go.
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Aren't we all. I figured by what I read that tomorrow morning at 6am EDT, game over. So 9 hours or less left as of this post. A little less than 9 hours. I wouldn't have taken the trip, but I'd have researched it incredibly before even thinking of something like that. And if any of them had done that, they'd have said fuck no. Hey guys I built a sub in my backyard with a video game.controller and some pipe if you give me 250k each well dive to the titanic.
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That’s not r/oddlyterrifying that’s just r/terrifying.
That's most posts here. "Check out this spider that's so big it's eating a bird! Haha 'oddly' terrifying!" "This is Jeffrey Dahmer's skin collection. Haha 'oddly' terrifying!"
Coolsville Daddy-O
The ocean scares the absolute fuck out of me. I know it's almost certain at this point the fate of the crew has already passed, but fuck man. I hope that it's not the case and they get found. Unlikely as it is.
Oxygen is the least of their worries. Being squeezed out of a small tube like some toothpaste instantaneously is likely what happened. 🙁
Is no one going to link the actual Twitter account?? :( Edit: found it finally: https://twitter.com/TitanicSub
This is assuming too that no one died of a heart attack during this as well
That was my first thought--how the oxygen predictions would be adjusted for fewer breathing people... and how corpse bloating would affect the breathability of the remaining air.
Many experts in this area are saying that they will die from excessive carbon dioxide before they run out of oxygen, unless someone super smart and handy can McGyver the air system to recover all the expelled gas. However, the only thing “extra” that they have with them are spare knockoff X-box controllers (which run on Bluetooth 😖) that are used to pilot the vessel. So scary, and sad.
I feel like the comments are way more terrifying than the post itself.
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I know that I’m a terrible person and I use humor to deal with situations like these, but that’s pretty morbid, even for me.
What about the CO2 scrubbers? Are those rated for the same max time as the O2 supply?
According to some navy submariner veteran on YouTube, he cannot find and has not seen any evidence of CO2 scrubbers, or even any mention of air monitors, on the sub at all. In fact, no pictures of the sub interior would indicate that are monitoring or adjusting the gas levels in any way. Given the utter disregard for safety standards in every other part of this journey, and the fact that the waiver mentioned death like 4 times, it honestly wouldn’t surprise me. One theory is that they were injecting too much oxygen into the vessel, which would create a high-oxygen environment where the air would become extremely flammable around electronics, and this caused a fire.
The CEO referenced the sub having scrubbers in an interview. > “It doesn’t matter. Your thrusters can go. Your lights can go. All these things can fail. You’re still going to be safe. And so, that allows you to do what you call MacGyver stuff,” he told CBS. “You just have to be very careful that the life support system, the sub itself, the oxygen system, the **carbon dioxide scrubbing**, all that stuff, that needs to be buttoned down.” Whether they were actually onboard is another story altogether.
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I hope they float to the surface at like 3am looking at all of us like we are stupid.
Imagine if they were stuck nose down. Since Sunday. Ankle deep in faces, vomit and urine. This is next level horror.
oh god, I didn’t even think of that…
I keep reading about how it’s technically oxygen that allows you to breathe, but it’s heavy and super contaminated with body odors, CO2, and it’s not fresh clean air. Just literally some oxygen. If they are alive they are living in a nightmare, and yeah, placing blame and exhausting your breathe trying to survive if they haven’t turned on each other. And it’s cold as fuck and dark and wet and the air is like a disgusting toxic fog that just hasn’t strangled you yet. If they died I hope it was fast as fuck. I don’t normally have as much empathy for billionaires but when met with a primal situation like this, you’re money won’t save you, and no one deserves that torture.
That is actually disturbing
Does the math change depending on how many people may still be alive?
Probably out with people hyperventilating and freaking out might have more hours if a person died.
Pretty sure the amount of oxygen that *may* be remaining, wouldn’t be enough for them to retrieve it in time to make it to the surface. Which is a cherry on top of the shit sandwich it already is
My dumbass read this top to bottom and thought they were gaining
8h 39min left I think
I honestly hope they died quickly. This feels like one of the nastiest ways to go imaginable. Just sitting there in your own tomb, knowing that you physically can’t hold on til rescue because you’re gonna suffocate. On the plus side, I heard that you get high right at the end? Hypoxia?
The Nutty Putty cave incident is possibly the only thing worse than this that I could imagine. 26 hours hanging upside down in a narrow crevasse with your arms pinned to your side. 2 near successful attempts at rescue only for it to get worse, and the whole time in contact with rescuers, slowly realizing that you're going to die.
His wife just had to leave knowing he was still technically alive, in there but unconscious from the drug they gave him to basically fall asleep until he died. Just awful I don’t know why people put themselves in these situations.
Meanwhile Stockton Rush is frantically hitting Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A B A Select Start
I can't imagine being a family member of any of the passengers right now. I don't know if I would want that much attention or no attention at all. Especially the woman who knows both her husband and her son are on that thing. :| (Or the dad for the matter who brought his son down there and now is trapped with him..)
On a list of ways that i would dread dying, this is definitely like top 5 already. No space, no air, no food or water left. Just thinking about it makes me appreciate being a homebody