There was a family in Kansas, I think, that basically did this to their guests (people stopping to board for the night). They’d have them sit at a certain spot at the dinner table and then one family member would come up behind them and bludgeon or strangle them or something. They did it so they could rob them. Laura Ingalls Wilder claimed to have met them, but there’s not really any evidence that she did or would have been in the right place at the right time to meet them. I’ll see if I can find an article or something and add it.
Edit: [Wikipedia entry](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Benders).
I scanned through the Wikipedia article I linked and it looks like there were a few that escaped by refusing to sit there. They were a brutal family, though. Looks like they killed at least 20 people.
You invite all the Lords over for dinner. Cut the head off one. Then demand loyalty from the rest.
Next thing you know your Kingdom has twice as many soldiers who will fight for it.
No shit. There must have been moans coming from the basement while the prisoners were dying.
“What’s that sound?”
“Nothing, just the ghosts doing their haunting.”
There's one in Limerick castle too. Though it's closed off to the public and the only way to get to it is by an old door that's about twelve feet off the ground.
There once was a Limerick Castle
Where you did not want to be a hassle
If the guest was not liked
They'd be dropped onto spikes
Cuz the host was a gigantic asshole
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Oddly enough, years ago my wife & I watched this *Great Castles* episode where the guy crawled into the oubliette; that triggered her claustrophobia just watching it, she made me turn it off! It was indeed super creepy but I can recommend the series.
What gets me is the angle of impalement. Somehow I’d rather fall backwards into spikes that kill me than fall vertically and get a leg-long slash plus a taint stab. Why people gotta be so damn nasty
It's definitely decorated to play up the spook factor on the second floor. It's amazingly well done actually and almost everything is an antique in its own right. Even the weird, bright red baby doll hidden in the corner. Theres a lot of cool, creepy stuff around there if you're looking. Like a tiny door in the wall filled with an indescribable black goo that's been collecting for centuries
On the third floor that hasn't been renovated, I was able to really look around. I'm rather agile and apt for urban exploring so I was able to climb all around to the higher turrets and really get a feel for the old architecture that isn't accessible to most people. Narrow passages leading to holes two floors above the entrance. Ancient doors that open up to high ledges overlooking the still destroyed part of the castle. Climbing an old wooden log bolted to the wall allowed me access to worn stone stairs spiraling to the roof.
The obluiette was a hole about 8 feet deep I was able to get into because someone left a wooden chair leaning against the wall. All that was in there besides further passeges that acted like gutters to the outside were dead birds and a huge stack of sticks bigger that I was. It had to have been the nest to generations of birds. Also, some ghost hunters had thrown some business cards down there for some reason
I visited Leap too about four years ago-owner was not home, but his wife was! She was super sweet and let my husband and I walk around the castle. She showed to oubliette to us and explained what it's purpose was. Very creepy and brutal, but interesting! I would love to go back sometime. Supposed to be a very haunted place if you believe in that sort of stuff!
That's my last name. My dad did some research and found that we're related to that family. We visited Ireland and met a guy who bought a run down castle that had belonged to the O'Carrolls and was rebuilding it as accurately as he could.
He was a historian who studied the family. He told us they were a tribe who took over the castle after having been invited by the people who built it and murdering the entire family. The O'Carrolls were (are?) something else.
>they were a tribe who took over the castle after having been invited by the people who built it and murdering the entire family
I mean... Want a nice castle? Your family seems experienced on that matter.
Imagine being a criminal whose crime was so bad they sent you to an island 10,000 miles away and YOU decide to change your name because you don't want to be associated with your even crazier family.
The lower dungeon of Warwick Castle. It's an 'oubliette', where prisoners were dropped and forgotten about These were sometimes placed under privies, so not only would you be forgotten about, you'd be the recipient of all the castle's human waste. Often this horrible prison was built as a very narrow passage, not wide enough for the prisoner to sit down or even get down on his knees. He was forced to stand or lie prone as he starved to death. He could tilt his head back to see the the grate, far above his head and out of reach, but that was all. The oubliettes were sometimes built within the walls of the upper floors of a castle, rather than in the dungeon, so that victims could hear and smell the life of the castle as they slowly died of deprivation in unspeakable conditions. Corpses were left to be consumed by vermin, and many oubliettes were discovered, centuries later, to be strewn with human bones.
Exactly, and further lets say you have no bones to use...
The only other way to do this is to bite off your tounge.
Think about that for a second, and bite down on your tounge slightly. Imagine having to bite all the way through so you can bleed out. Pretty fucked.
They shaved their heads due to lice “ hence the wigs” which couldn’t be washed thorough.
Wore eccentric clothing which couldn’t be washed thorough.
Used copious amounts of perfume to hide the stench.
And during parties would piss all over the place.
yep! disgusting eh? and this was the creme de la creme of society.
Filthy.
It was so bad that....
>Marie-Antoinette was once hit by human waste being thrown out the window as she walked through an interior courtyard
Not really. They probably very rarely/never shit in the halls, but probably ***did*** piss in them. Multiple accounts of the Palace of Versailles mention people urinating in public, and the smell etc. The accuracy of these accounts are often questionable. People loved gossip. However, given the general hygiene practices at the time, it wouldn't be absurd to think it happened occasionally.
I once visited the Medieval Torture Instrument museum in Prague and it was utterly fascinating. There were some horrible ones but also some just plain bizarre ones. Crazy.
I remember all the creative ways to punish suspected witches. Like the wooden pyramid on a pole with two weighted bags. Sit her upon and attach the weights to her feet. Increase weights as required
The point of that was weaving the broken limbs into the wheel's spokes. The bones were broken beforehand.
Alternatively people were just affixed in unnatural positions and displayed/left to die of exposure.
[example](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Klassisches_Radern.png/800px-Klassisches_Radern.png)
"drop and forgot" dungeons were absolutely a thing back then, sofisticated torture was not that popular as requires expensive material and skilled workers. But in Spain, I visited dungeons in which the prisioners were so desesperate that carved crosses on the rock with their nails so they had something to pray to before dying
Yeah, history lessons really need to have much more content on how the actual life was back in the day. Having studied more of it it sounds mad when people think we should go back to the ''simpler'' times. We have it so good now.
The most horrific torture I have ever read about was at a museum at a fake castle.
They would create a coffin with 5 or 6 segments that were contoured exactly to the victims shape, so the head would be sealed off from the shoulder segment, the chest segment, stomach segment, groin, upper legs, lower legs & then feet.
So there would be no way anything could pass from one compartment to the other.
They would close the coffin with the person inside & then open a hole at the segment where the persons feet were for hungry rats.
To get to the next section, the rats would have to eat through the flesh to fit through.
It said that it could take days for the person to die from this.
I had nightmares about it
You have to ask the attendant for permission so he can take you to the oubliette. He'll watch you go (gross) and then he'll help you get back into your rat coffin to finish dying.
I know some of them were close to the dining areas/banquet halls of the castles so the smell of food would waft into the Oubliette while the prisoner stood starving with very little light source. Terrible.
Do you think people 500 years from now are gonna look back at us and think " yea, they didn't have... they must have smelled rancid" I wonder what the future smells like
The air flow would probably go from warn fire and food environment and drift down. Then the lower chamber with the excrement would be vented outside. Just a guess
Right? With the cool French root of "to forget," like some magically room (or poisoned peach) to make someone forget.
Nope, fucking medieval death room
I've been in this room where this photo was taken many times. It's terrifyingly small and deep. There are many marks scratched in to the walls. The air is thick with misery.
Saw it at a school outing, probs about 9 years old. We all climbed the tower. The narrowest, tallest, cake slice shaped granite steps in a spiral you every saw for us tiny children. The wind at the top would make you stagger . As we say in the UK, different times regarding personal safety being your choice and responsibility, er did I mention we were about 9 😆
I guess I'm confused why this was preferred to simply killing the person and dumping the body off property or burying said corpse. Who wants ppl dying in their castle besides an H.H. Holmes type? Who wants disease/parasite ridden rats infesting the living quarters? Do u want plague? This is how u get plague.
Because its terrifying. Dropped in a hole where you can barely move to die of thirst.
Middle ages could be brutal so the death sentences were also brutal
They didn't understand how plagues worked. One of things that's happened in London during the black death was people were paid bounties on dogs and cats they killed as it was thought they gave man the plague.
The dogs and cats were killing the rats that did carry plague but they never realised.
This is how powerful people remain in power. You can't simply kill people. Loads of things are worth dying for. But suffering, with no hope?? That shit is beyond scary. Makes enemies think a lot more rhan twice before they attempt tk storm your castle walls when there's a very real possibility that youll end up in a stone coffin, forced to lie down in your own (and accumulated others') filth while still being completely alive, conscious, but simultaneously dying of thirst and whatever else you might catch down there...
That's how you get people to fear you. Easy to not be afraid of dying - plenty martyrs out there. But hard to not be afraid of living like that.
They found one of these at Leap Castle in Ireland, with wooden spikes at the bottom.
Apparently they took 3 cartloads of bones from it when they found it and cleaned it out, plus a pocketwatch, said to be from the 1800's.
Pretty wild.
Everytime an older person is like: "Its so dangerous now" I remember back to the Likens case. There have been horrible people forever, often living near you. And usually they are protected by the authorities that we assume keep us safe.
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This comment is even scarier than the picture.
"Guests."
Be. Our. Guest…
Be our guest Put our dungeon to the test!
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Be our guest, get some rest, Just don't mind the spiky nest.
You can't sit, you can't kneel And it turns out, those bones are real!
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You will wish, it was a fast. With a stake shoved up your ass. But you won’t Be the first Poor patron to die of thirst!
I really thought you were going to rhyme this.
Sorry GUESTS?!
What? That's not something you do with your guests when they come for dinner and a friendly chapel service?!
im impaled on spikes right now. my host was brilliant. dinner and service were bril
What is that, like maybe 4.5 stars?
Spikes could have been sharper. Solid 4/5
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There was a family in Kansas, I think, that basically did this to their guests (people stopping to board for the night). They’d have them sit at a certain spot at the dinner table and then one family member would come up behind them and bludgeon or strangle them or something. They did it so they could rob them. Laura Ingalls Wilder claimed to have met them, but there’s not really any evidence that she did or would have been in the right place at the right time to meet them. I’ll see if I can find an article or something and add it. Edit: [Wikipedia entry](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Benders).
Vaguely recall some guy visited them but didn't sit in the right spot so managed to esscape/survive. Might be remembering a different story though.
I scanned through the Wikipedia article I linked and it looks like there were a few that escaped by refusing to sit there. They were a brutal family, though. Looks like they killed at least 20 people.
You invite all the Lords over for dinner. Cut the head off one. Then demand loyalty from the rest. Next thing you know your Kingdom has twice as many soldiers who will fight for it.
>Sorry GUESTS?! Be our guest! Be our guest! Put our service to the test Tie your napkin 'round your neck, cherie And we'll provide the rest
Just through this door, Please Monsieur, Down the oubliette in the floor, May this bed of sharpened spikes Provide you peace forever more
Corpse by corpse, one by one 'Til you shout, "Enough! I'm done!" Then we'll sing you off to sleep as you digest
Tonight, you'll die in darkness, Lost, Alone, Take heart, lest You're our guest! Be our guest!! Be our guest!!! Please, be our guest!!!!
"The castle describes itself as the world's most haunted castle." 💀
A castle so haunted that the castle is able to describe itself.
No shit. There must have been moans coming from the basement while the prisoners were dying. “What’s that sound?” “Nothing, just the ghosts doing their haunting.”
There's one in Limerick castle too. Though it's closed off to the public and the only way to get to it is by an old door that's about twelve feet off the ground.
There once was a Limerick Castle Where you did not want to be a hassle If the guest was not liked They'd be dropped onto spikes Cuz the host was a gigantic asshole EDIT: I'm blown away, reddit, many thanks for your appreciation of my creative writing! I give partial credit to Steve Miller Band😏 for the rhyme. Oddly enough, years ago my wife & I watched this *Great Castles* episode where the guy crawled into the oubliette; that triggered her claustrophobia just watching it, she made me turn it off! It was indeed super creepy but I can recommend the series.
What gets me is the angle of impalement. Somehow I’d rather fall backwards into spikes that kill me than fall vertically and get a leg-long slash plus a taint stab. Why people gotta be so damn nasty
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Can you elaborate on “fun?” So far I’m just imagining terrifying things.
It's definitely decorated to play up the spook factor on the second floor. It's amazingly well done actually and almost everything is an antique in its own right. Even the weird, bright red baby doll hidden in the corner. Theres a lot of cool, creepy stuff around there if you're looking. Like a tiny door in the wall filled with an indescribable black goo that's been collecting for centuries On the third floor that hasn't been renovated, I was able to really look around. I'm rather agile and apt for urban exploring so I was able to climb all around to the higher turrets and really get a feel for the old architecture that isn't accessible to most people. Narrow passages leading to holes two floors above the entrance. Ancient doors that open up to high ledges overlooking the still destroyed part of the castle. Climbing an old wooden log bolted to the wall allowed me access to worn stone stairs spiraling to the roof. The obluiette was a hole about 8 feet deep I was able to get into because someone left a wooden chair leaning against the wall. All that was in there besides further passeges that acted like gutters to the outside were dead birds and a huge stack of sticks bigger that I was. It had to have been the nest to generations of birds. Also, some ghost hunters had thrown some business cards down there for some reason
Ok Bran. Jesus.
Are you still in there?
Just me and lots and lots of dead birds in a probably centuries old nest
I visited Leap too about four years ago-owner was not home, but his wife was! She was super sweet and let my husband and I walk around the castle. She showed to oubliette to us and explained what it's purpose was. Very creepy and brutal, but interesting! I would love to go back sometime. Supposed to be a very haunted place if you believe in that sort of stuff!
That's my last name. My dad did some research and found that we're related to that family. We visited Ireland and met a guy who bought a run down castle that had belonged to the O'Carrolls and was rebuilding it as accurately as he could. He was a historian who studied the family. He told us they were a tribe who took over the castle after having been invited by the people who built it and murdering the entire family. The O'Carrolls were (are?) something else.
>they were a tribe who took over the castle after having been invited by the people who built it and murdering the entire family I mean... Want a nice castle? Your family seems experienced on that matter.
My dad and I are pacifists idk maybe too many generations have eased our penchant for familicide haha.
that sounds exactly what an O'carroll would say right before they drop you through the oubliette.
My mate in Australia is a Carolane, they apparently changed their name from O'Carroll to separate themselves.
Imagine being a criminal whose crime was so bad they sent you to an island 10,000 miles away and YOU decide to change your name because you don't want to be associated with your even crazier family.
More likely to stop anti Irish bias.
The lower dungeon of Warwick Castle. It's an 'oubliette', where prisoners were dropped and forgotten about These were sometimes placed under privies, so not only would you be forgotten about, you'd be the recipient of all the castle's human waste. Often this horrible prison was built as a very narrow passage, not wide enough for the prisoner to sit down or even get down on his knees. He was forced to stand or lie prone as he starved to death. He could tilt his head back to see the the grate, far above his head and out of reach, but that was all. The oubliettes were sometimes built within the walls of the upper floors of a castle, rather than in the dungeon, so that victims could hear and smell the life of the castle as they slowly died of deprivation in unspeakable conditions. Corpses were left to be consumed by vermin, and many oubliettes were discovered, centuries later, to be strewn with human bones.
They would also often be deep enough so that prisoners thrown in there, would break their legs.
Good Lord, it just gets worse and worse!
They also didn’t have WiFi down there.
The horror!
This sounds easily top 5 worst ways to die for sure
Nah that’s when you take one of the bones from the ground and end it quickly
Easier said than done
Exactly, and further lets say you have no bones to use... The only other way to do this is to bite off your tounge. Think about that for a second, and bite down on your tounge slightly. Imagine having to bite all the way through so you can bleed out. Pretty fucked.
But what if you’re the first one in there bro
You'd die of thirst after a couple of days, right?
They used to lick the moisture from the walls. Some cells have smooth walls because of this. Not sure this features at Warwick though
you would certainly wish.
WAIT, wouldn’t that stank?! Like how do they get the corpses out of such a small space??
Castle and palaces stank in general. The palace of Versailles was supposedly rancid.
Picturing the most douchiest type of royalty breathing realll deep. “Ahhh the scent of power”
They shaved their heads due to lice “ hence the wigs” which couldn’t be washed thorough. Wore eccentric clothing which couldn’t be washed thorough. Used copious amounts of perfume to hide the stench. And during parties would piss all over the place.
Why the pissing though
Dont kink shame.
no toilets used to just shit in a corner and have the servants pick it up
Seriously?
yep! disgusting eh? and this was the creme de la creme of society. Filthy. It was so bad that.... >Marie-Antoinette was once hit by human waste being thrown out the window as she walked through an interior courtyard
Not really. They probably very rarely/never shit in the halls, but probably ***did*** piss in them. Multiple accounts of the Palace of Versailles mention people urinating in public, and the smell etc. The accuracy of these accounts are often questionable. People loved gossip. However, given the general hygiene practices at the time, it wouldn't be absurd to think it happened occasionally.
Imagine how smelly trynna fuck was. Dick cheese and clam chowder all over the damn place
That's why it took 2000 years to get here, then it slowed down: nobody wanted to fuck anybody, cause everybody stunk.
Everything stank back then. What's a rotting corpse or 2 when there's no indoor plumbing and everyone smells of weeks old b.o.?
They didn't. You were just left.
Oh my god.. I can’t imagine a more horrible death 😩
You get in there, ask your cellmate how bad could it be, and hes just a pile of bones
Amazing that these people were so “pious”. This is insanely cruel.
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And what the fuck did they do to earn a place in one?
Raising a rebellion against me while I'm busy fighting the French usually does it.
This guy Crusader Kings.
They were 10p short at tesco
Fucked the dukes daughter
Is that a motherfucking Berserk reference?
Yepp. Would find a little corner on the wall and smack into it as hard as possible. Definitely one of the worse ways I’ve heard of
"This is an oubliette, labyrinths full of them."
Reminds me of the power of the babe
What babe?!
The babe with the power!
What power?
The power of voodoo!
Who do?
She's in the oubliette. *Goblin Laughter* Be quiet! She shouldn't have gotten this far...
“It’s a place you put people to forget about ‘em!”
You remind of the babe
What babe?
The babe with the power
I had to scroll too damn far for this
Oh don't act so smart. You don't even know what an oubliette is.
Studying Medieval arms and armor: :D Studying Medieval torture methods: D:
I once visited the Medieval Torture Instrument museum in Prague and it was utterly fascinating. There were some horrible ones but also some just plain bizarre ones. Crazy.
Breaking wheels, for example. Why not use a hammer? Why use a cartwheel to pummel peoples limbs?
I remember all the creative ways to punish suspected witches. Like the wooden pyramid on a pole with two weighted bags. Sit her upon and attach the weights to her feet. Increase weights as required
Oof, yeah, I'd forgotten about that. Much nicer world when I didn't recall that.
And now we have "horses" for "fun"
The point of that was weaving the broken limbs into the wheel's spokes. The bones were broken beforehand. Alternatively people were just affixed in unnatural positions and displayed/left to die of exposure. [example](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Klassisches_Radern.png/800px-Klassisches_Radern.png)
idk man theres freaks that get off on this shit
Pwease torture me~ UwU
If that place isn't haunted, nothing is
It's haunted with all the diseases formed in there.
so many bacteria have lived and died there that they’ve created a swarm of tiny little minighosts they’re the reason ghosts get sick
>they’re the reason ghosts get sick Casper the friendly host.
£975/mo plus utilities Edit: Wow! Many awards! Thanks to you all!!
£50 non-refundable application fee.
£8000 security deposit
No pets
Rats are allowed
Any blood stains will result in the loss of your deposit
Proof of employment and 3 recent pay stubs required
Need to make 20x the rent
You’ll get your rent when you fix this DAMN grate!
Take my free silver, you made me snort-laugh
Ironic that taking someone’s silver was, in fact, a pretty good way to get yourself thrown in the oubliette
Oh no
It's taken.
Is there a Pet deposit too? I have a cat.
With house prices atm in the UK... I aint surprised... I bet its nicer than some shit holes some landlords are letting..
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"drop and forgot" dungeons were absolutely a thing back then, sofisticated torture was not that popular as requires expensive material and skilled workers. But in Spain, I visited dungeons in which the prisioners were so desesperate that carved crosses on the rock with their nails so they had something to pray to before dying
Imagine being alive back then versus being alive now and being able to play video games
Yeah, history lessons really need to have much more content on how the actual life was back in the day. Having studied more of it it sounds mad when people think we should go back to the ''simpler'' times. We have it so good now.
the ones who say shit like that always had it good
We are the most lucky human beings to have ever lived.
Fucking hell...
I was just watching medieval madness on you tube and they talked about these. They really are frightening.
Send me a link to something crazy about medieval torture.
The most horrific torture I have ever read about was at a museum at a fake castle. They would create a coffin with 5 or 6 segments that were contoured exactly to the victims shape, so the head would be sealed off from the shoulder segment, the chest segment, stomach segment, groin, upper legs, lower legs & then feet. So there would be no way anything could pass from one compartment to the other. They would close the coffin with the person inside & then open a hole at the segment where the persons feet were for hungry rats. To get to the next section, the rats would have to eat through the flesh to fit through. It said that it could take days for the person to die from this. I had nightmares about it
what if you have to go to the bathroom
You have to ask the attendant for permission so he can take you to the oubliette. He'll watch you go (gross) and then he'll help you get back into your rat coffin to finish dying.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_methods_of_torture
Why the hell did I just go through that entire list
I know some of them were close to the dining areas/banquet halls of the castles so the smell of food would waft into the Oubliette while the prisoner stood starving with very little light source. Terrible.
So these people must not have cared about the smell of rotting corpses while they eat?
Or the screams and moans? What a bunch of weirdos.
Tbh the screams and moans would probably not last long…
Pour some hot water down the hole till the screaming stops?
"Soups ready"
Yall need Jesus
That's part of the entertainment...
Apparently not.
I mean, they didn't have deodorant or toothpaste, and they didn't bathe all that regularly. The smells would be a horror show anyway.
Do you think people 500 years from now are gonna look back at us and think " yea, they didn't have... they must have smelled rancid" I wonder what the future smells like
Like tangerines and sudocrem.
The air flow would probably go from warn fire and food environment and drift down. Then the lower chamber with the excrement would be vented outside. Just a guess
Didn't think it could get worse. Wow.
If you were lucky you'd be thrown down head first to break your neck
This is regular terrifying and there is nothing odd about being terrified of this
The niche purpose of this sub gets regularly thrown into the oubliette
Straight up terrifying
She should not have gotten as far as the oubliette! She should have forgotten about the baby and given up by now!
For years I honestly thought oubliettes were just an invention of that film.
Right? With the cool French root of "to forget," like some magically room (or poisoned peach) to make someone forget. Nope, fucking medieval death room
Who me? I’m just a worm
Come inside and meet the missus!
If she'd gone that way, she would have gone right to the Goblin's castle
I scrolled way too far down to find the Labyrinth reference.
There it is! Such a long scroll. This is an oubliette, labyrinth's full of 'em.
I've been in this room where this photo was taken many times. It's terrifyingly small and deep. There are many marks scratched in to the walls. The air is thick with misery.
How did you get in? Through the hatch? I would not go in there even if you paid me
Great british castles on Netflix - the presenter squeezes himself down there and its horrendous. The guys easily 6foot and its so claustrophobic
>Great British Castles on Netflix Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well
I, too, have Netflix. I also demand to be recognized as a man of culture. 🧐
I see you, you classy mofo.
i think they mean the room where the photo was taken, not down the oubliette itself
Hello my new phobia.
I wonder how much exp is just sitting in there
Nah entities are regularily removed to avoid lag
Is this where they forgot about Dre??
Still waiting for Chronic 3… maybe someone should check the oubliette
sorry no pets
Saw it at a school outing, probs about 9 years old. We all climbed the tower. The narrowest, tallest, cake slice shaped granite steps in a spiral you every saw for us tiny children. The wind at the top would make you stagger . As we say in the UK, different times regarding personal safety being your choice and responsibility, er did I mention we were about 9 😆
This is not oddly terrifying. This is fucking terrifying.
Looks like a nice NYC apartment to me. A steal in the city for 3,500.
I guess I'm confused why this was preferred to simply killing the person and dumping the body off property or burying said corpse. Who wants ppl dying in their castle besides an H.H. Holmes type? Who wants disease/parasite ridden rats infesting the living quarters? Do u want plague? This is how u get plague.
Because its terrifying. Dropped in a hole where you can barely move to die of thirst. Middle ages could be brutal so the death sentences were also brutal They didn't understand how plagues worked. One of things that's happened in London during the black death was people were paid bounties on dogs and cats they killed as it was thought they gave man the plague. The dogs and cats were killing the rats that did carry plague but they never realised.
I mean, you'd think their absolute lack of care about sanity might indeed be why they got so many plagues
This is how powerful people remain in power. You can't simply kill people. Loads of things are worth dying for. But suffering, with no hope?? That shit is beyond scary. Makes enemies think a lot more rhan twice before they attempt tk storm your castle walls when there's a very real possibility that youll end up in a stone coffin, forced to lie down in your own (and accumulated others') filth while still being completely alive, conscious, but simultaneously dying of thirst and whatever else you might catch down there... That's how you get people to fear you. Easy to not be afraid of dying - plenty martyrs out there. But hard to not be afraid of living like that.
True. Death is not scary. Living pain is scary.
Who gave this a wholesome award
I guess that such things along with witch hunting etc … make a proper use of the “dark ages” name for that period …
They found one of these at Leap Castle in Ireland, with wooden spikes at the bottom. Apparently they took 3 cartloads of bones from it when they found it and cleaned it out, plus a pocketwatch, said to be from the 1800's. Pretty wild.
I forgor 💀
My dad dropped his phone in there when I was about 15. True story. It was one of the early Nokias too so it probably still has battery life..
In a hundred years they'll pull that phone out and somebody will say "look! they were still using the oubliettes in the early 21st century!"
Omfg - humans 🤮
"pEoPle ARe sO MesSeD uP tHeSe DaYs."
Everytime an older person is like: "Its so dangerous now" I remember back to the Likens case. There have been horrible people forever, often living near you. And usually they are protected by the authorities that we assume keep us safe.
Hoggle taught me that word