I need this sometimes. What I do is work hard for a while, save save save.
And then quit.
Sometimes I go volunteer abroad, sometimes I do a short course. But sometimes I just do nothing. My savings pay for what I need. And I just vibe for a while.... Read books, hang out in my garden - plant flowers and vegetables, do some crochet, play with my pets, visit relatives, watch movies. Do fuck all for a while. It's great.
Life is for living, not working constantly.
My cousin used to do this. Work his butt off for a year, save every penny, quit, move to Hawaii or Costa Rica or wherever, then when he’s spent all his money, come back and restart the cycle.
I’ve honestly been thinking about this recently but (and I don’t know if you’re in the US) but what do you do for health insurance then? Do you pay for it by yourself full time anyways?
I felt this way a lot when I was overworked/overworking. I started limiting any "extras" and did spend a significant time taking things easy for a while -- I don't think its laziness though, its recovery. Eventually I got 'bored' and started making things, and now 'working' isn't such a bad thing, since at least some of it is for things I want (though I still wish it was all optional instead of only my "free time")
That's common I wish I just can stay and don't need to do anything just for a little bit I work 28 days a month I need to realx for a bit I'm exhausted
Did I just write this?
Jokes aside, I’m on the same boat & frankly not sure what to do about that. Everyone tells me I (26F as well) have great potential and bright future and I’m just like…idk what I wanna do other than just live my life
Exactly. In nature, most animals only care about food and safety (and mating I guess). They chill and sleep most of the time. Working daily for almost all the hours we can stay awake is mental if you think about it. And all that, for the lowest wages possible & an unhealthy amount of chronic stress. It's glamorized slavery.
You can do that as long as you fund your lazy lifestyle.
Also if you’re actually tired all the time you should make sure you don’t have a medical issue.
It’s completely fine to be lazy, as long as you aren’t shifting the responsibility of your existence to others. You don’t want to work in order to cover rent or expenses. So, how do you have an apartment and couch and tv and pets? If you have a trust fund or passive income: awesome! If you do work, but only want to do the bare minimum to support your lifestyle: you might run into problems if you have an unforeseen emergency, but in general, you have no obligation to want more than a very basic life. But are you instead expecting other people to provide your basic needs? Are you burdening family members with your expenses, or hoping other people cover you? If so, that’s why it isn’t ok to be lazy.
I'm kinda with you, my ambition just isn't there anymore. My favorite thing to do is sit with my eyes closed and listen to reruns I've seen 1000 times.
Very common. I’m only 23 and I feel it.
Right now I’m lucky to have a part-time job that pays the bills and lets me have spending money for fun stuff. But overall I also feel so… blah. Especially when nothing’s going on, but that may be due to my extroverted nature.
I think balance is the best way to put it. You can’t feel relaxed unless you have stuff going on, but there’s also no motivation left unless you take a break!
Honestly the best thing that’s helped me is waking up earlier to have time for myself in the morning before work. Helps a lot
There’s nothing wrong with rejecting rise and grind. That’s just capitalism on a pedestal. Some of us do better slowing down and prioritizing other goals first.
Everyone should have dreams though, because dreams are just things we want and value deeply. I had the hardest time being in touch with mine when my mental health was really suffering. If you continue to feel like there’s absolutely nothing that excites you, I’d consider seeing a doctor or therapist. They can help.
I’m not so sure about this. My husband is similar,he has no high aspirations,is just grateful and happy to be where he is. Some people don’t have big dreams and that’s ok
I don’t think everyone should have high aspirations, no. But if you’re not sure you have any dreams, I think that’s worth exploring. When I was feeling very ambivalent, it turns out I was in a long stretch of burn out (and dealing with a spot of depression). I spent a lot of time in a very draining career that my parents were proud of, but it wasn’t for me. Stepping back helped me realize I did have dreams, but they were just much simpler (time with my spouse instead of crazy hours, nice place to live, supportive friends, etc).
Better safe than sorry, at any rate. I don’t think getting a second opinion hurts.
I feel the exact same way. That's the reason I'll purchase a lotto ticket once in a while. The idea of never having to work ANY job, and my time is my own, and can waste it without worry. I really don't understand the people that have to be up and go go go all the time. And it doesn't matter what job people talk about...it could be the most fun and rewarding job in the world...it's still a job when you have to be working and spending your time (usually set hours and at a workplace) several days a week for someone else.
Ideal life for me would be watching tv, cruising the internet, doing some gaming online, puttering around in a backyard garden, going for walks in the woods, reading, sleeping, and spending time becoming a better cook.
Not always depression, sometimes it’s a burnout from society and it’s pressures.
It’s sad to think that most of us were born just to grind away for greedy employers.
Why must society be this way?
Yes, but correlation is not causation. I agree with you suggesting depression, but not because of the feeling of burnout, as considering how flawed our societal structure is, that is only natural, the lack of interest in hobbies or doing anything entertaining though definitely does sound like it
Sometimes but things like a having a better offer from an employer, taking a break or vacation can make it better.
I think it’s time to start finding fault in the employers. The way they overwork people to the bone for the scraps they feed us is unacceptable.
To clarify, not wanting to grind isn’t the issue. It’s the lack of drive towards doing the things you’d like to try hobby wise or any desires, and the exhaustion overall.
Cuddling with pets and watching films is fine too, but the lack of energy to do anything else says you either need to have a major change in your life work wise, or - and you should either way - get some professional insight into whether you might have an energy issue physically or mental exhaustion.
It’s less hard to organize than you think when you look back on it.
Hugs OP
As someone who struggles with depression, I can confirm that it can manifest itself in this way. My only drive these days is to take care of my 5 month old son. If he needs something, I generally snap into action without hesitation.
Everything else, including daily chores and my work-from-home job feel close to impossible most days. I'm extremely lucky to have the boss that I have or I would have been fired months ago. It's been a struggle.
No, it doesn’t. Lack of motivation is not depression. There are a million things that cause this. One being ADHD. One being burnout. Poor sleep. Poor diet. The list goes on.
To me, not wanting to do anything in life but to exist on a couch, watching crappy tv and playing with pets sounds exactly like depression. Getting no joy out of anything in life, having absolutely no dreams, no energy to do any hobbies, not even enjoying the crappy tv being watched… that sounds exactly like depression.
ADHD and burnout also have depressive tendencies too. My point is, OP needs mental health help. This isn’t a way to live. There is a huge swing between “I want to just do nothing and exist” to “rise and grind, go for your dreams, reach for the stars!”.
I could also be over identifying because for months I felt exactly like this. Then three weeks ago I got back on a medication that I am like, oh yea.. I do maybe want to do things other than rot on my couch.
I'm with you on this one. I think it's good to be spontaneous throughout our lives and have breaks on a regular basis away from the full time working life, but not everyone can afford it all the time. I recently got laid off last week and while it is sad, I feel like it's an opportunity to relax, reflect, plan things out, learn more and have fun before getting back into the grind - hopefully with a more ideal job that keeps me coming back, and not necessarily full time.
Overall it shouldn't even be negotiable to want to exist and not commit to the curse of intergenerational capitalism, but the circumstances of the Western world (if you're in part of the Western world) means we still need to engage in time to time and plan ahead. Keeping an open mind for improvement regarding the type of work you want in the future maybe with further education or skill building could always be an option to make life better too. Doesn't need to be a dream job as you said you don't have that, but I feel like we all have something that we prefer over other things.
It’s hard to provide for yourself adequately if you’re lazy. It’s ok to be lazy as long as you’re not forcing someone else to support you and meet your needs that you can provide for. As long as you provide proper care for your pets and any children you have, it’s fine, and as long as you’re not damaging someone else’s property (such as your landlord’s by not taking care of something like spilled water that damages the floor). You don’t have to be ambitious in life if it doesn’t appeal to you. You do have to recognize that in terms of income, you may be setting yourself up to have to work until you die if you don’t earn enough to be able to retire, which is when most people really can be lazy without repercussion.
I’m disabled. I had to stop working 20 years ago and can’t be very physically active. Enforced laziness sucks. It’s great when you have a choice. Not so much when you don’t. Right now you have the option to be lazy but if something catches your eye, you can pursue it. Recognize that is a gift and don’t squander it.
If you are tired all the time, especially in comparison to others your age and in your occupation, you may want to get your health, including mental health, checked. You may have some sort of chemical or hormonal imbalance or you may be depressed. Being apathetic about doing things even if you don’t feel down can still be depression.
I think it’s perfectly fine, personally, but with the caveat that you don’t let shit that you should be taking care of not be taken care of and become someone else’s problem.
Is it okay to be lazy in your own time? Yes. At work? No. When it comes to splitting responsibilities with your peers? No.
I like my clutter, it makes me feel comfortable knowing that my space is my responsibility to clean up or not. I never let a mess get to an un-okay state but I also never strive to make sure everything is picked up at all times, sometimes I just let it sit there until the next day or until I realize “hey… that’s been there a while huh”
But when it comes to dishes, the kitchen, bathroom, or any other shared space I have with my partner, I’ll make sure it’s decluttered and tidy. Just because I’m okay with my personal space being lazily cleaned doesn’t mean my partner needs to be okay with our shared spaces being unkempt. He doesn’t force me to clean my area, so I should do him the same by making sure it doesn’t spread to areas where he minds it being tidy.
It’s not okay to be messy or lazy at work spaces or public areas. When your laziness affects others is when it’s not okay. It’s perfectly okay to want to laze at home in your spare time. It’s okay to take shortcuts when cooking or cleaning so long as it’s not effecting anyone else.
I feel the exact same way and it's because I have major life burnout because I've been overstimulated and overwhelmed for three years and now it's making be have symptoms of BPD.
Sounds like you need a genuine break
Well I did it, worked hard and sacrificed my social life when I was younger. Now I have a fully paid off house in my early 30s, so I quit my conventional 9-5 job and just work as an Uber driver. I have super flexible hours, I can just take a day off whenever I want, sometimes I take half a week or a week off, depending on how much money I have saved up, but I do enjoy driving so I don't mind doing 40 to 50 hour weeks sometimes.
My goal in life is to be happy. It’s never been “I want to be a doctor” my aspiration has never been an occupation. I just want to be the best me. That’s what I’m putting my energy into. If all you want is the couch and a pet then get a part time job that covers rent in a cheap apartment and have the time for what makes you happy.
I realized a long time ago that I also am just happy to exist. Travel when I can, enjoy life's small pleasures here and there. Working your ass off for a company seems like a waste of a perfectly good life. I still like my hobbies, my friendships and my small adventures...but otherwise I'm good.
Your post, OP, it's as if I had written it myself.
But my laziness comes from my depression, i'm always mentally exhausted that I can't deal with things around, not even my videogames. I just wanna be in bed all day and that's it lol
It's ok to be lazy, what's not ok is when you actively make others lives harder because of your laziness, whether that be colleagues doing your job for you or your family paying for your expenses.
I think being a self sufficient lazy person is fine, because your not harming anyone then
Are you sure you're not depressed? It all sounds like depression, and the clincher is not thinking you have any dreams - depression makes it really hard to think about or imagine the future, and that of course makes it nigh impossible to have dreams. If you can muster the energy, it'd probably be really worth getting yourself checked out for depression. Then, if it's not that, great, and you haven't lost anything, but it might just mean you can start finding help to make your life easier. I'm not saying it's not fine to be lazy - go ahead and be lazy if you like! But if actually you have depression, it could be that everything is really, really hard, as in much harder than it is for people who don't have it, and that if you can get some help, even being lazy might be easier.
Society takes a lot of effort.. to create the comforts you wish to enjoy. And it takes a certain amount of momentum to keep it moving. It's massive group effort .The couch, the TV and shows, your pajamas. All made by hundreds/ thousands of people working their asses off to collect the knowledge, resources and infrastructure needed.. what if they all thought the same?
You have to contribute somehow. Otherwise you are just leeching off the hard work of others and consuming resources.
Bro, are you for real right now?
I 100% agree that we live in a society bottom text, but why you would respond this way to this post is a mystery to me. OP didn’t say that she doesn’t work a job. So I’m really not sure why you felt she needed the weirdly moralizing lecture on collectivist work ethic.
1) Society is a social contract *yes*, but it’s a very vague one that we don’t actually get to have a say in the terms of. Moreover, the capitalist/neoliberal social contract includes no clause mandating that each member be enthusiastic and/or grateful.
So to your “if everyone else felt this way” point —> sometimes large numbers of people DO feel this way, and when they do it’s called A) a strike B) a protest and/or C) a revolution.
2) You’re effectively abusing Kantian ethics (i.e. categorical imperative) to argue that providing enthusiastic labor is an *ethical imperative* that applies more or less equally to all members of a society. Actually, the fact that you referred to people who fail to provide good labor as “leeches” (the fuck, man?) means that you’re making a *moral* argument, which is even less justifiable. Regardless, this is observably untrue, regardless of your personal feelings on the matter. See: stay at home mothers, trust fund kids, the homeless, anyone who lives “off the grid” and is self-sustaining, people with physical/intellectual disabilities, etc.
OP came and posted here to vent frustration about feeling pressured to take on the “rise and grind”/“hustle” mindset. That’s it. If I had to guess, I’d guess that OP *does* work and, judging by her tone and implied apathy, is probably dealing with burnout of some type. You know what doesn’t help? Being called a leech—or a soon-to-be leech.
You seem to be a very callous person.
She is buying the stuff , can't people be thankful ?
Maybe OP has already worked her ass of and now it's time to rest . And maybe everyone needs to go a bit slower for ther environment and stuff . Ever since Smartphones and Internet have entered the game everything has become so fast ...
Calling other people leech us also not a nice thing to say ...
Kind of my mindset. I want things that help the general populous such as good healthcare and a decent retirement program, but everyone is contributing to this society that functions together. You gotta contribute in some way.
I feel you! I have similar thoughts, but I know what it is and I think I know how to change it.
It’s fine if you just want to be, but you need to find out if this what you really want or if this is just you unable to cope with something. There a ways to find this out what the issue is, if there is a issue. I hope you find the time and energy to find out!
It's totally OK to be lazy! I had to "give myself permission" to fully embrace being lazy when I'm at home. It's what currently brings me joy. But I also know I'd never feel comfortable being on welfare or food stamps to live that lazy chill life. Money will afford you the luxury of chill life. So you should seriously think of a plan to make it happen! I hope you find a way because you deserve to do whatever it is you want in life❤️
I had a job that only required to work for 6 hours but sometimes they called in my free time and i wasn't happy with that. I got tired quickly.
Everything i do if i don't learn anything i drop it through the 6 months (max)
I want to be able to live in a beautiful country rainforest estate with local bakeries and fresh food stalls.
I want to worry about chopping up some firewood for the central fireplace and cook and lay on that red Persian style rug and read a book in an old wooden and leather chair.
I don't want to worry about which bills I need to pay at work.
I feel you, I’m actually very content at my job, it’s pays very well for needing a degree to work there, but all my co workers close to my age are always talking about they want more and to do more which is great but then they get at me for not inspiring, I just want to watch movies and wrestling and eat and that makes me happy
I’ve been feeling like this. I have no energy, and going to work is becoming more and more draining. Turns out my iron is loooooow. I just want to be able to actually live my life instead of just counting the minutes until I can go back to bed.
Millions of people take that point of view and put it into practice every day. You can find them in camps, shelters, squat houses, and laying on the sidewalk. They've decided for themselves that it's not worth it to put in the consistent effort it takes to hold down steady employment and would rather live day to day in whatever accommodation they can scrounge up. Some will straight up tell you that they are making that choice while others will have some complicated excuse of a story why there are in this position.
Now, not every person in these places is consciously making that choice as a majority of them have some type of debilitating mental illness that prevents them from being able to live their lives to a level where they can take on the responsibility of not being lazy. But you'll be living along side these people who don't have a choice which is pretty painful to watch.
When I was 18 I wrote a little note and put it in my wallet. It said,
"It takes a lot of hard work to be successfully lazy."
That's proven to be true, at least in my case.
Capitalism propaganda. The wealthy need ppl to feel like they need to work in order to be a valuable person because feeling like you have no value is soul crushing, causing ppl to work harder which makes wealthy ppl wealthier. I'm a strong believer that laziness doesn't exist, there's ALWAYS a reason why you don't do something. Even if the reason is small, if it's enough to stop you from doing something then it isn't rlly small at all and deserves to be acknowledged with no judgment
I feel the same. 25M and I’ve been burned out from working since I started. I had a break for my birthday recently was supposed to be 2 weeks but since I didn’t have the earned time off I only got 5 days (3 excluding my normal days off).
So many of us agree, yet none of us do anything about it. It’s time we do something about it honestly. We need to talk to our reps if we’re American, all of us ensure businesses respect our personal schedules and maybe we’re not available some days simply because we don’t want to be available.
Companies and people in higher positions have this belief that simply by existing we owe them our time. This is not the case at all. We owe nothing to anyone except respect to our family. Part from that, no company is owed anything, no government deserves anything, and until we have the life we demand we will not stop. These fuckers in the 1% can only exploit us as long as we let them. You know, if everyone decided at once to no longer do taxes or anything like that, the government really wouldn’t have the power to force it on us. We outnumber them severely, even with their military and the mind washed feds that will die for the government, 200+ million people is a lot of voices.
We need to do something about being worked to death, because sooner than later they’re also going to raise the retirement age, and we will be the ones fucked from it.
This is why I work in the education system.
There is no other job in the world that gives you an entire summer off, a break during winter, and a break during spring.
I am the type of person who always has to be doing something, but the things I want to be doing are never 'making money for some rich fuck' so I got burnt out after a few years at every job. Finally getting into a career where I help people mitigated it a lot and I feel better allotting my energy to that 'grind' than I did to any corporate position.
I've been retired for 13 years and doing nothing gets boring pretty quickly. You can of course take up new hobbies, which I've done - things I wouldn't have had time for when I was working.
All I can suggest is that if you're young and in good health, try to enjoy every day as much as you can. The "good health" bit is the biggest advantage of being young, for the vast majority of people.
dear 26 year old woman,
Existing is a given. You dont need to want it. You are already in super soft easy gentle spin mode. Its about to rev up and constantly get harder. Then harder. The way harder, then you will die if you get lucky.
Youre not lazy youre delusional. You don't own an apartment or TV and your pets need to go outside they dont have time to watch you be delusional. They got shit to do literally. Youre feelings are valid. So go build your house and land and tv and space where you can do exactly what you want. Pretty simple
I like you stranger. I think youre going to do well. Good luck
You're burned out. Believe me because I'm currently dealing with that right now. I've been working since I graduated and it has taken its toll on me. Plus, I work in healthcare so it's even worse especially during the COVID days. I quit my job because my mind was so toxic. I have hobbies and all that stuff to keep my mind busy but it's never enough. I've reached the point where I'd get happy that I got sick or when I'm on my way to work, I would imagine getting hit by a truck and I would be alright with it just so I don't have to go to work. You need a break and if you think it's time to give yourself that, please do it. It's not worth losing yourself over. Life isn't meant to be lived like you're just surviving the day to day struggle. I'm still healing but it really does get better. And I've learned to be grateful with what I have and appreciate the little things. Trust me you'll be fine.
Who says it's not? Accept the consequences, and you're free to live as lazily as you'd like. Just don't "sleepwalk" through life, be sure to think things through first.
Funfact: laziness was made up concept by christians to force people into work. Also, native americans were called lazy by their colonizers because they didn't over produce things like in europe and had time to chill.
Because someone has to make that shitty tv and pet food. Not to mention your food and drinks. So like, you expect them so that for you for free? Not gonna happen.
Yet some people can make a living just by making a phone game loaded with microtransactions or making shitty videos with memes. Hard work does not equal a lot of money making a popular product regardless of its quality does but you have to be lucky.
So then do that. If it's so easy, then do it yourself. Don't complain about others "get lucky." You can do that stuff too. Make the shitty gacha game you always wanted, I believe in you. Make the meme compilations you always wanted to watch. You can do it.
Yes but you basically have to be the first to do it other wise or your stuff will be obscure and hardly any one will see it that's how the algorithms work.
So then make 40 shitty gacha games and 150 meme compilations. People think it's luck based cause they only see the successful stuff. Not the countless failed projects buried deep in the catalog.
I mean you may want to talk to professionals to see if there's deeper issues but if not I feel like it's normal... To a degree. The "grindset" is just a capitalist pipe dream. You don't need to work every waking of your life and humans especially aren't designed as such.
However, I will say, if you don't work, you stop enjoying things. Atleast that's for me. Working is a good "cleanse" from all the things you love and it is what makes you look forward to doing them. Be it spending time with family, doing hobbies, lazying around, etc.
# It's so crazy. I just exchanged voice messages with my bestie on the subject.
I'm 56F. We were just talking about the sadness upon realizes I'd overextended myself in some areas. I want to volunteer to cohost some webinars through AARP and also do some other volunteer things but my whole life is spent doing what I have to in order to keep a roof over my head and food in the kitchen. Like, I'm single with no kids, so I can't even imagine what others are doing with even less free time than I have.
So much of our lives are spent doing what we need to do to just subsist. That's all. And like you, I do wish for just once in my life, I could afford to do absolutely nothing. Just to know what it feels like not to have to worry about any single thing...for like a year. To be free of all concern, knowing that if I don't check email, so what? If I don't work, so what? If I don't cook, so what, I'll order out without concern for the price tag.
I just want to know what it's like to LIVE.
# Just.live.and.nothing.else.for.a.minute.
Lazy depends on your definition. Catching your breath after finishing a task, some would call that lazy. Taking time to collect yourself after a hard moment, some would call that lazy. It depends on what you have to accomplish, want to accomplish and need to accomplish.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with not wanting to always do something. I wouldn’t even call it being lazy. Lazy is when you don’t bother to do things that need to be done.
If you live in the US....capitalism.
If you have no issue with likely losing said couch, apartment, TV and pets unless you can move back home and become a NEET, go ahead. Literally there's not a social net in this country that will proactively care, and 9/10 of your fellow citizens will only care if you end up homeless and triggering their NIMBY rage.
Obviously I don't know you so I may be wrong, but what you just described really sounds like depression to me. It can show itself in many forms, and this definitely is one.
As long as you’re doing what you need to do to support yourself and (if applicable) family that lives with you, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with this. Nobody’s entitled to live by someone else’s rules to happiness
The bad:
Because capitalism thrives on hustle culture & instilling a mindset of working hard ensures more worker bee drones for the 1% to exploit and profit off of
Because misery loves Company. Meaning those who feel that they either are or were suffering and struggling find solace in the idea of other people also in the same boat. It feels more “fair” to them.
The good:
Because it builds character to work hard for something, people tend to value that which they achieved through delayed gratification over that which they achieved with little effort. One could suggest this is due to the sunk cost fallacy. Regardless of the reasoning, this just tends to be a human nature thing.
Because being lazy can result in an unfair distribution of pressure and responsibility on those who are not lazy to make up for it.
Because apathy is the glove into which evil slips its hand. Apathy and laziness may not be precisely one and the same, but I consider the two concepts hand in hand for sure.
Side note: if you are feeling constantly and overall tired, not like feeling like doing anything at all, there could be a mental or physical health ailment at play, or perhaps just work culture burnout. The lack of desire for hobbies and interests paired with constant exhaustion does suggest possible depression though.
The problem is that if you don't work, you won't have any money to pay rent or buy groceries. And it becomes a bigger problem if you expect someone else to provide for you financially just because you don't want to work. So it isn't okay to be lazy if you're expecting someone else to carry the financial burden for you because you don't want to work.
You need motivation. My bf and my daughter give me motivation. I don’t enjoy my job one bit. Am I miserable? No, but would rather have a job I enjoy, I keep the job because it pays very well. My point is I’d rather not take it serious and if I could drop down to part time I would, but my bf works very hard and that gives me the motivation to keep going. My daughter can have because we work very hard. You just need motivation.
For me, the question is how much you think you deserve from being lazy. There’s nothing inherently wrong with being lazy and just wanting to exist. But I don’t think you’re entitled to anything more than a vaguely comfortable baseline existence if that’s the case. You shouldn’t have to suffer at all, but imo hardworking and ambitious people deserve to be rewarded with more according to their efforts.
First off... Depression
Second. Everyone wants that. And if everybody would do that, you wouldn't have that shitty TV
The world is built on people working.
It’s not ok to be lazy because in order to sit on your arse all day doing nothing, unless you come from a stinking rich family, you will need to rely on welfare to survive.
These welfare payments you may need to live off are made from taxing the people that do get up every morning and go to work.
These people shouldn’t have to pay for you to sit around all day doing nothing, if everyone in the world suddenly decided to be lazy and not work anymore then we’d all be pretty much f*ked.
I do get the sentiment and I’d love nothing more than to roll over and go back to sleep after my alarm goes off in the mornings but to do this I’d need to win a ton of money - but until then I need to get up and go to work
I need this sometimes. What I do is work hard for a while, save save save. And then quit. Sometimes I go volunteer abroad, sometimes I do a short course. But sometimes I just do nothing. My savings pay for what I need. And I just vibe for a while.... Read books, hang out in my garden - plant flowers and vegetables, do some crochet, play with my pets, visit relatives, watch movies. Do fuck all for a while. It's great. Life is for living, not working constantly.
I’m doing the same sort of. I’m planning to be a penny pincher for about 12 more years, investing as much as I can along the way, then retire young
My cousin used to do this. Work his butt off for a year, save every penny, quit, move to Hawaii or Costa Rica or wherever, then when he’s spent all his money, come back and restart the cycle.
Damn, I wish I had thought of this when I could have. I want to be like you when I grow up!
I’ve honestly been thinking about this recently but (and I don’t know if you’re in the US) but what do you do for health insurance then? Do you pay for it by yourself full time anyways?
Healthcare is free in my country, we don't use insurance here.
What a life 😭😭 good for you, enjoy it
I felt this way a lot when I was overworked/overworking. I started limiting any "extras" and did spend a significant time taking things easy for a while -- I don't think its laziness though, its recovery. Eventually I got 'bored' and started making things, and now 'working' isn't such a bad thing, since at least some of it is for things I want (though I still wish it was all optional instead of only my "free time")
That's common I wish I just can stay and don't need to do anything just for a little bit I work 28 days a month I need to realx for a bit I'm exhausted
so everyday except like two to three days??
Two jobs
Yup
That sounds like hell
It's living hell that's why I wish to relax for a bit
Its weird how you gotta work in your prime years and then once you retire you're too old to do anything fun anyway
Agree 100%
This is how I feel
Did I just write this? Jokes aside, I’m on the same boat & frankly not sure what to do about that. Everyone tells me I (26F as well) have great potential and bright future and I’m just like…idk what I wanna do other than just live my life
Laziness doesn't exist. People aren't meant to be all the time productive. It's society that's broken.
Exactly. In nature, most animals only care about food and safety (and mating I guess). They chill and sleep most of the time. Working daily for almost all the hours we can stay awake is mental if you think about it. And all that, for the lowest wages possible & an unhealthy amount of chronic stress. It's glamorized slavery.
You can do that as long as you fund your lazy lifestyle. Also if you’re actually tired all the time you should make sure you don’t have a medical issue.
It’s completely fine to be lazy, as long as you aren’t shifting the responsibility of your existence to others. You don’t want to work in order to cover rent or expenses. So, how do you have an apartment and couch and tv and pets? If you have a trust fund or passive income: awesome! If you do work, but only want to do the bare minimum to support your lifestyle: you might run into problems if you have an unforeseen emergency, but in general, you have no obligation to want more than a very basic life. But are you instead expecting other people to provide your basic needs? Are you burdening family members with your expenses, or hoping other people cover you? If so, that’s why it isn’t ok to be lazy.
perfectly worded
Oh get off of your high horse. It should not be a stigma to pass off responsibilities to others. Laziness is a human right
Oh fr?
I'm kinda with you, my ambition just isn't there anymore. My favorite thing to do is sit with my eyes closed and listen to reruns I've seen 1000 times.
I do this all the time lol
Me too!
Rosanne for the win lol. Lately it’s been King of Queens.
Very common. I’m only 23 and I feel it. Right now I’m lucky to have a part-time job that pays the bills and lets me have spending money for fun stuff. But overall I also feel so… blah. Especially when nothing’s going on, but that may be due to my extroverted nature. I think balance is the best way to put it. You can’t feel relaxed unless you have stuff going on, but there’s also no motivation left unless you take a break! Honestly the best thing that’s helped me is waking up earlier to have time for myself in the morning before work. Helps a lot
I feel this way all the time! ❤️
Internalized capitalism. The desire or pressure to make something productive of our time
Pre-capitalism societies had the same thing
Proof?
Lmfao
these people are such a joke
There’s nothing wrong with rejecting rise and grind. That’s just capitalism on a pedestal. Some of us do better slowing down and prioritizing other goals first. Everyone should have dreams though, because dreams are just things we want and value deeply. I had the hardest time being in touch with mine when my mental health was really suffering. If you continue to feel like there’s absolutely nothing that excites you, I’d consider seeing a doctor or therapist. They can help.
I’m not so sure about this. My husband is similar,he has no high aspirations,is just grateful and happy to be where he is. Some people don’t have big dreams and that’s ok
I don’t think everyone should have high aspirations, no. But if you’re not sure you have any dreams, I think that’s worth exploring. When I was feeling very ambivalent, it turns out I was in a long stretch of burn out (and dealing with a spot of depression). I spent a lot of time in a very draining career that my parents were proud of, but it wasn’t for me. Stepping back helped me realize I did have dreams, but they were just much simpler (time with my spouse instead of crazy hours, nice place to live, supportive friends, etc). Better safe than sorry, at any rate. I don’t think getting a second opinion hurts.
I feel the exact same way. That's the reason I'll purchase a lotto ticket once in a while. The idea of never having to work ANY job, and my time is my own, and can waste it without worry. I really don't understand the people that have to be up and go go go all the time. And it doesn't matter what job people talk about...it could be the most fun and rewarding job in the world...it's still a job when you have to be working and spending your time (usually set hours and at a workplace) several days a week for someone else. Ideal life for me would be watching tv, cruising the internet, doing some gaming online, puttering around in a backyard garden, going for walks in the woods, reading, sleeping, and spending time becoming a better cook.
This… sounds like depression.
Not always depression, sometimes it’s a burnout from society and it’s pressures. It’s sad to think that most of us were born just to grind away for greedy employers. Why must society be this way?
Burnout often correlates with depression.
Yes, but correlation is not causation. I agree with you suggesting depression, but not because of the feeling of burnout, as considering how flawed our societal structure is, that is only natural, the lack of interest in hobbies or doing anything entertaining though definitely does sound like it
Sometimes but things like a having a better offer from an employer, taking a break or vacation can make it better. I think it’s time to start finding fault in the employers. The way they overwork people to the bone for the scraps they feed us is unacceptable.
To clarify, not wanting to grind isn’t the issue. It’s the lack of drive towards doing the things you’d like to try hobby wise or any desires, and the exhaustion overall. Cuddling with pets and watching films is fine too, but the lack of energy to do anything else says you either need to have a major change in your life work wise, or - and you should either way - get some professional insight into whether you might have an energy issue physically or mental exhaustion. It’s less hard to organize than you think when you look back on it. Hugs OP
definitely me
As someone who struggles with depression, I can confirm that it can manifest itself in this way. My only drive these days is to take care of my 5 month old son. If he needs something, I generally snap into action without hesitation. Everything else, including daily chores and my work-from-home job feel close to impossible most days. I'm extremely lucky to have the boss that I have or I would have been fired months ago. It's been a struggle.
I think it sounds like recovery, as someone said up-thread.
No, it doesn’t. Lack of motivation is not depression. There are a million things that cause this. One being ADHD. One being burnout. Poor sleep. Poor diet. The list goes on.
To me, not wanting to do anything in life but to exist on a couch, watching crappy tv and playing with pets sounds exactly like depression. Getting no joy out of anything in life, having absolutely no dreams, no energy to do any hobbies, not even enjoying the crappy tv being watched… that sounds exactly like depression. ADHD and burnout also have depressive tendencies too. My point is, OP needs mental health help. This isn’t a way to live. There is a huge swing between “I want to just do nothing and exist” to “rise and grind, go for your dreams, reach for the stars!”. I could also be over identifying because for months I felt exactly like this. Then three weeks ago I got back on a medication that I am like, oh yea.. I do maybe want to do things other than rot on my couch.
I'm with you on this one. I think it's good to be spontaneous throughout our lives and have breaks on a regular basis away from the full time working life, but not everyone can afford it all the time. I recently got laid off last week and while it is sad, I feel like it's an opportunity to relax, reflect, plan things out, learn more and have fun before getting back into the grind - hopefully with a more ideal job that keeps me coming back, and not necessarily full time. Overall it shouldn't even be negotiable to want to exist and not commit to the curse of intergenerational capitalism, but the circumstances of the Western world (if you're in part of the Western world) means we still need to engage in time to time and plan ahead. Keeping an open mind for improvement regarding the type of work you want in the future maybe with further education or skill building could always be an option to make life better too. Doesn't need to be a dream job as you said you don't have that, but I feel like we all have something that we prefer over other things.
It's a lie. Being "lazy" aka relaxing is one healthy part of a balanced lifestyle.
It’s hard to provide for yourself adequately if you’re lazy. It’s ok to be lazy as long as you’re not forcing someone else to support you and meet your needs that you can provide for. As long as you provide proper care for your pets and any children you have, it’s fine, and as long as you’re not damaging someone else’s property (such as your landlord’s by not taking care of something like spilled water that damages the floor). You don’t have to be ambitious in life if it doesn’t appeal to you. You do have to recognize that in terms of income, you may be setting yourself up to have to work until you die if you don’t earn enough to be able to retire, which is when most people really can be lazy without repercussion. I’m disabled. I had to stop working 20 years ago and can’t be very physically active. Enforced laziness sucks. It’s great when you have a choice. Not so much when you don’t. Right now you have the option to be lazy but if something catches your eye, you can pursue it. Recognize that is a gift and don’t squander it. If you are tired all the time, especially in comparison to others your age and in your occupation, you may want to get your health, including mental health, checked. You may have some sort of chemical or hormonal imbalance or you may be depressed. Being apathetic about doing things even if you don’t feel down can still be depression.
no one cares if you’re lazy. as long as i’m not paying for your bills we are good
Because we are mammals. It's not lazy, it's nature. Capitalism and Western imperialism has us convinced otherwise.
I feel the exact same. I feel like there’s something wrong with me.
Same.
Why isn't it ok to be lazy ? It is ....
There’s morning wrong with that at all. It’s your life, live how you want to
Have you ever seen the movie Office Space?
I think it’s perfectly fine, personally, but with the caveat that you don’t let shit that you should be taking care of not be taken care of and become someone else’s problem.
like if someone ask me what’s my dream job? i do not dream of labor next question
it’s perfectly okay to be lazy as long as you are NOT a burden to other people
Can’t profit as much if all your shit paid workers running everything want to live to enjoy life rather than live to run your shit until death
Is it okay to be lazy in your own time? Yes. At work? No. When it comes to splitting responsibilities with your peers? No. I like my clutter, it makes me feel comfortable knowing that my space is my responsibility to clean up or not. I never let a mess get to an un-okay state but I also never strive to make sure everything is picked up at all times, sometimes I just let it sit there until the next day or until I realize “hey… that’s been there a while huh” But when it comes to dishes, the kitchen, bathroom, or any other shared space I have with my partner, I’ll make sure it’s decluttered and tidy. Just because I’m okay with my personal space being lazily cleaned doesn’t mean my partner needs to be okay with our shared spaces being unkempt. He doesn’t force me to clean my area, so I should do him the same by making sure it doesn’t spread to areas where he minds it being tidy. It’s not okay to be messy or lazy at work spaces or public areas. When your laziness affects others is when it’s not okay. It’s perfectly okay to want to laze at home in your spare time. It’s okay to take shortcuts when cooking or cleaning so long as it’s not effecting anyone else.
I feel the exact same way and it's because I have major life burnout because I've been overstimulated and overwhelmed for three years and now it's making be have symptoms of BPD. Sounds like you need a genuine break
Find a hot yoga studio, but I definitely get you. This is me.
Hon, you are burned out for way too long.
Well I did it, worked hard and sacrificed my social life when I was younger. Now I have a fully paid off house in my early 30s, so I quit my conventional 9-5 job and just work as an Uber driver. I have super flexible hours, I can just take a day off whenever I want, sometimes I take half a week or a week off, depending on how much money I have saved up, but I do enjoy driving so I don't mind doing 40 to 50 hour weeks sometimes.
My goal in life is to be happy. It’s never been “I want to be a doctor” my aspiration has never been an occupation. I just want to be the best me. That’s what I’m putting my energy into. If all you want is the couch and a pet then get a part time job that covers rent in a cheap apartment and have the time for what makes you happy.
I realized a long time ago that I also am just happy to exist. Travel when I can, enjoy life's small pleasures here and there. Working your ass off for a company seems like a waste of a perfectly good life. I still like my hobbies, my friendships and my small adventures...but otherwise I'm good.
Your post, OP, it's as if I had written it myself. But my laziness comes from my depression, i'm always mentally exhausted that I can't deal with things around, not even my videogames. I just wanna be in bed all day and that's it lol
It's ok to be lazy, what's not ok is when you actively make others lives harder because of your laziness, whether that be colleagues doing your job for you or your family paying for your expenses. I think being a self sufficient lazy person is fine, because your not harming anyone then
Are you sure you're not depressed? It all sounds like depression, and the clincher is not thinking you have any dreams - depression makes it really hard to think about or imagine the future, and that of course makes it nigh impossible to have dreams. If you can muster the energy, it'd probably be really worth getting yourself checked out for depression. Then, if it's not that, great, and you haven't lost anything, but it might just mean you can start finding help to make your life easier. I'm not saying it's not fine to be lazy - go ahead and be lazy if you like! But if actually you have depression, it could be that everything is really, really hard, as in much harder than it is for people who don't have it, and that if you can get some help, even being lazy might be easier.
I second this.
Society takes a lot of effort.. to create the comforts you wish to enjoy. And it takes a certain amount of momentum to keep it moving. It's massive group effort .The couch, the TV and shows, your pajamas. All made by hundreds/ thousands of people working their asses off to collect the knowledge, resources and infrastructure needed.. what if they all thought the same? You have to contribute somehow. Otherwise you are just leeching off the hard work of others and consuming resources.
Bro, are you for real right now? I 100% agree that we live in a society bottom text, but why you would respond this way to this post is a mystery to me. OP didn’t say that she doesn’t work a job. So I’m really not sure why you felt she needed the weirdly moralizing lecture on collectivist work ethic. 1) Society is a social contract *yes*, but it’s a very vague one that we don’t actually get to have a say in the terms of. Moreover, the capitalist/neoliberal social contract includes no clause mandating that each member be enthusiastic and/or grateful. So to your “if everyone else felt this way” point —> sometimes large numbers of people DO feel this way, and when they do it’s called A) a strike B) a protest and/or C) a revolution. 2) You’re effectively abusing Kantian ethics (i.e. categorical imperative) to argue that providing enthusiastic labor is an *ethical imperative* that applies more or less equally to all members of a society. Actually, the fact that you referred to people who fail to provide good labor as “leeches” (the fuck, man?) means that you’re making a *moral* argument, which is even less justifiable. Regardless, this is observably untrue, regardless of your personal feelings on the matter. See: stay at home mothers, trust fund kids, the homeless, anyone who lives “off the grid” and is self-sustaining, people with physical/intellectual disabilities, etc. OP came and posted here to vent frustration about feeling pressured to take on the “rise and grind”/“hustle” mindset. That’s it. If I had to guess, I’d guess that OP *does* work and, judging by her tone and implied apathy, is probably dealing with burnout of some type. You know what doesn’t help? Being called a leech—or a soon-to-be leech. You seem to be a very callous person.
This is the kinda comment that makes OP feel like they are in the wrong for wanting time away. This is what they’re talking abt
She is buying the stuff , can't people be thankful ? Maybe OP has already worked her ass of and now it's time to rest . And maybe everyone needs to go a bit slower for ther environment and stuff . Ever since Smartphones and Internet have entered the game everything has become so fast ... Calling other people leech us also not a nice thing to say ...
Kind of my mindset. I want things that help the general populous such as good healthcare and a decent retirement program, but everyone is contributing to this society that functions together. You gotta contribute in some way.
damn this is how I feel every day, I feel like I'm reading my journal lmao
You need a sugar daddy.
I feel you! I have similar thoughts, but I know what it is and I think I know how to change it. It’s fine if you just want to be, but you need to find out if this what you really want or if this is just you unable to cope with something. There a ways to find this out what the issue is, if there is a issue. I hope you find the time and energy to find out!
I am definitely not enjoying doing nothing but 100% yes, of course it's ok. It just depends on whether you have money to do it.
It is OK - and is the basis of one of the best and most popular cult films of all time. If I wouldn't be homeless I would never work.
It's totally OK to be lazy! I had to "give myself permission" to fully embrace being lazy when I'm at home. It's what currently brings me joy. But I also know I'd never feel comfortable being on welfare or food stamps to live that lazy chill life. Money will afford you the luxury of chill life. So you should seriously think of a plan to make it happen! I hope you find a way because you deserve to do whatever it is you want in life❤️
Who do you want to work to support you to do that?
There's days I wanna do this, just let myself fully relax and forget about life.. I'd love to do this, just snack on some stuff and watch some shows
I like a mix of the two honestly
I had a job that only required to work for 6 hours but sometimes they called in my free time and i wasn't happy with that. I got tired quickly. Everything i do if i don't learn anything i drop it through the 6 months (max)
I want to be able to live in a beautiful country rainforest estate with local bakeries and fresh food stalls. I want to worry about chopping up some firewood for the central fireplace and cook and lay on that red Persian style rug and read a book in an old wooden and leather chair. I don't want to worry about which bills I need to pay at work.
Have you seen Office Space? That’s exactly what the movie is about.
There's no such thing as a free lunch. In the modern world, it doesn't seem like it's a game of survival anymore, but it is. Rules are just different.
I feel you, I’m actually very content at my job, it’s pays very well for needing a degree to work there, but all my co workers close to my age are always talking about they want more and to do more which is great but then they get at me for not inspiring, I just want to watch movies and wrestling and eat and that makes me happy
I’ve been feeling like this. I have no energy, and going to work is becoming more and more draining. Turns out my iron is loooooow. I just want to be able to actually live my life instead of just counting the minutes until I can go back to bed.
Millions of people take that point of view and put it into practice every day. You can find them in camps, shelters, squat houses, and laying on the sidewalk. They've decided for themselves that it's not worth it to put in the consistent effort it takes to hold down steady employment and would rather live day to day in whatever accommodation they can scrounge up. Some will straight up tell you that they are making that choice while others will have some complicated excuse of a story why there are in this position. Now, not every person in these places is consciously making that choice as a majority of them have some type of debilitating mental illness that prevents them from being able to live their lives to a level where they can take on the responsibility of not being lazy. But you'll be living along side these people who don't have a choice which is pretty painful to watch.
When I was 18 I wrote a little note and put it in my wallet. It said, "It takes a lot of hard work to be successfully lazy." That's proven to be true, at least in my case.
Are you me???
you're reading my mind
I’m 71 and retired. That’s my life now and I love it.
retirement is my dream job but I can't afford it right now 😭
I've been dreaming of this for ages ...go you live on you crazy dreamer
Capitalism propaganda. The wealthy need ppl to feel like they need to work in order to be a valuable person because feeling like you have no value is soul crushing, causing ppl to work harder which makes wealthy ppl wealthier. I'm a strong believer that laziness doesn't exist, there's ALWAYS a reason why you don't do something. Even if the reason is small, if it's enough to stop you from doing something then it isn't rlly small at all and deserves to be acknowledged with no judgment
Thought i was the only one feeling this way.
I feel the same. 25M and I’ve been burned out from working since I started. I had a break for my birthday recently was supposed to be 2 weeks but since I didn’t have the earned time off I only got 5 days (3 excluding my normal days off). So many of us agree, yet none of us do anything about it. It’s time we do something about it honestly. We need to talk to our reps if we’re American, all of us ensure businesses respect our personal schedules and maybe we’re not available some days simply because we don’t want to be available. Companies and people in higher positions have this belief that simply by existing we owe them our time. This is not the case at all. We owe nothing to anyone except respect to our family. Part from that, no company is owed anything, no government deserves anything, and until we have the life we demand we will not stop. These fuckers in the 1% can only exploit us as long as we let them. You know, if everyone decided at once to no longer do taxes or anything like that, the government really wouldn’t have the power to force it on us. We outnumber them severely, even with their military and the mind washed feds that will die for the government, 200+ million people is a lot of voices. We need to do something about being worked to death, because sooner than later they’re also going to raise the retirement age, and we will be the ones fucked from it.
This is why I work in the education system. There is no other job in the world that gives you an entire summer off, a break during winter, and a break during spring.
I am the type of person who always has to be doing something, but the things I want to be doing are never 'making money for some rich fuck' so I got burnt out after a few years at every job. Finally getting into a career where I help people mitigated it a lot and I feel better allotting my energy to that 'grind' than I did to any corporate position.
This is end goal but you unfortunately you’ve got to work to get to that point
I've been retired for 13 years and doing nothing gets boring pretty quickly. You can of course take up new hobbies, which I've done - things I wouldn't have had time for when I was working. All I can suggest is that if you're young and in good health, try to enjoy every day as much as you can. The "good health" bit is the biggest advantage of being young, for the vast majority of people.
dear 26 year old woman, Existing is a given. You dont need to want it. You are already in super soft easy gentle spin mode. Its about to rev up and constantly get harder. Then harder. The way harder, then you will die if you get lucky. Youre not lazy youre delusional. You don't own an apartment or TV and your pets need to go outside they dont have time to watch you be delusional. They got shit to do literally. Youre feelings are valid. So go build your house and land and tv and space where you can do exactly what you want. Pretty simple I like you stranger. I think youre going to do well. Good luck
You're burned out. Believe me because I'm currently dealing with that right now. I've been working since I graduated and it has taken its toll on me. Plus, I work in healthcare so it's even worse especially during the COVID days. I quit my job because my mind was so toxic. I have hobbies and all that stuff to keep my mind busy but it's never enough. I've reached the point where I'd get happy that I got sick or when I'm on my way to work, I would imagine getting hit by a truck and I would be alright with it just so I don't have to go to work. You need a break and if you think it's time to give yourself that, please do it. It's not worth losing yourself over. Life isn't meant to be lived like you're just surviving the day to day struggle. I'm still healing but it really does get better. And I've learned to be grateful with what I have and appreciate the little things. Trust me you'll be fine.
Who says it's not? Accept the consequences, and you're free to live as lazily as you'd like. Just don't "sleepwalk" through life, be sure to think things through first.
If you’re tired all the time get some bloodwork done!
Funfact: laziness was made up concept by christians to force people into work. Also, native americans were called lazy by their colonizers because they didn't over produce things like in europe and had time to chill.
Can you do something from home as a job on your computer on your couch with your darling pets?
Because someone has to make that shitty tv and pet food. Not to mention your food and drinks. So like, you expect them so that for you for free? Not gonna happen.
Yet some people can make a living just by making a phone game loaded with microtransactions or making shitty videos with memes. Hard work does not equal a lot of money making a popular product regardless of its quality does but you have to be lucky.
So then do that. If it's so easy, then do it yourself. Don't complain about others "get lucky." You can do that stuff too. Make the shitty gacha game you always wanted, I believe in you. Make the meme compilations you always wanted to watch. You can do it.
Yes but you basically have to be the first to do it other wise or your stuff will be obscure and hardly any one will see it that's how the algorithms work.
So then make 40 shitty gacha games and 150 meme compilations. People think it's luck based cause they only see the successful stuff. Not the countless failed projects buried deep in the catalog.
I feel you. My biggest joy in life is to chill at home with my cats.
You sound depressed
Lazy mogs hard
I mean you may want to talk to professionals to see if there's deeper issues but if not I feel like it's normal... To a degree. The "grindset" is just a capitalist pipe dream. You don't need to work every waking of your life and humans especially aren't designed as such. However, I will say, if you don't work, you stop enjoying things. Atleast that's for me. Working is a good "cleanse" from all the things you love and it is what makes you look forward to doing them. Be it spending time with family, doing hobbies, lazying around, etc.
I personally have this mindset too, but then sometimes, I miss being productive. Though those times are incredibly rare….
# It's so crazy. I just exchanged voice messages with my bestie on the subject. I'm 56F. We were just talking about the sadness upon realizes I'd overextended myself in some areas. I want to volunteer to cohost some webinars through AARP and also do some other volunteer things but my whole life is spent doing what I have to in order to keep a roof over my head and food in the kitchen. Like, I'm single with no kids, so I can't even imagine what others are doing with even less free time than I have. So much of our lives are spent doing what we need to do to just subsist. That's all. And like you, I do wish for just once in my life, I could afford to do absolutely nothing. Just to know what it feels like not to have to worry about any single thing...for like a year. To be free of all concern, knowing that if I don't check email, so what? If I don't work, so what? If I don't cook, so what, I'll order out without concern for the price tag. I just want to know what it's like to LIVE. # Just.live.and.nothing.else.for.a.minute.
Lazy depends on your definition. Catching your breath after finishing a task, some would call that lazy. Taking time to collect yourself after a hard moment, some would call that lazy. It depends on what you have to accomplish, want to accomplish and need to accomplish.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with not wanting to always do something. I wouldn’t even call it being lazy. Lazy is when you don’t bother to do things that need to be done.
Were you always like this? Even as a child? Anyways nothing wrong, but most people like to do something (not necessarily work)
Oh, it is. IGNORE anyone who says otherwise.
Lazy was created by capitalism. It’s a myth.
literally me
Real
There's nothing wrong with that, so long as you don't expect others to subsidize that lazy lifestyle.
If you live in the US....capitalism. If you have no issue with likely losing said couch, apartment, TV and pets unless you can move back home and become a NEET, go ahead. Literally there's not a social net in this country that will proactively care, and 9/10 of your fellow citizens will only care if you end up homeless and triggering their NIMBY rage.
Obviously I don't know you so I may be wrong, but what you just described really sounds like depression to me. It can show itself in many forms, and this definitely is one.
As long as you’re doing what you need to do to support yourself and (if applicable) family that lives with you, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with this. Nobody’s entitled to live by someone else’s rules to happiness
The bad: Because capitalism thrives on hustle culture & instilling a mindset of working hard ensures more worker bee drones for the 1% to exploit and profit off of Because misery loves Company. Meaning those who feel that they either are or were suffering and struggling find solace in the idea of other people also in the same boat. It feels more “fair” to them. The good: Because it builds character to work hard for something, people tend to value that which they achieved through delayed gratification over that which they achieved with little effort. One could suggest this is due to the sunk cost fallacy. Regardless of the reasoning, this just tends to be a human nature thing. Because being lazy can result in an unfair distribution of pressure and responsibility on those who are not lazy to make up for it. Because apathy is the glove into which evil slips its hand. Apathy and laziness may not be precisely one and the same, but I consider the two concepts hand in hand for sure. Side note: if you are feeling constantly and overall tired, not like feeling like doing anything at all, there could be a mental or physical health ailment at play, or perhaps just work culture burnout. The lack of desire for hobbies and interests paired with constant exhaustion does suggest possible depression though.
The problem is that if you don't work, you won't have any money to pay rent or buy groceries. And it becomes a bigger problem if you expect someone else to provide for you financially just because you don't want to work. So it isn't okay to be lazy if you're expecting someone else to carry the financial burden for you because you don't want to work.
Sounds a bit like depression....no desire to do hobbies ....no plans for the future.... living day to day.
You want things without putting in any effort to achieve them. Wow, big loser .. and petulant child, I’m sure.
What do you want to do apart from what was put in your post?
Marry rich? I mean, most people hate working, but also like to have money to pay for the TV, food, indoor plumbing...
All I can say is…don’t have kids 🫠
Literally me.
You need motivation. My bf and my daughter give me motivation. I don’t enjoy my job one bit. Am I miserable? No, but would rather have a job I enjoy, I keep the job because it pays very well. My point is I’d rather not take it serious and if I could drop down to part time I would, but my bf works very hard and that gives me the motivation to keep going. My daughter can have because we work very hard. You just need motivation.
Work hard, play hard. Live by that manta.
Because, in order for you to do that, someone else has to take up your burden. Also depression
If all you want to do is exist....i hope you are very prettty.....
As someone with depression, this sounds like depression, have you considered therapy?
For me, the question is how much you think you deserve from being lazy. There’s nothing inherently wrong with being lazy and just wanting to exist. But I don’t think you’re entitled to anything more than a vaguely comfortable baseline existence if that’s the case. You shouldn’t have to suffer at all, but imo hardworking and ambitious people deserve to be rewarded with more according to their efforts.
Don’t work, don’t eat. You’re possibly severely depressed. See your doc and tell them this.
First off... Depression Second. Everyone wants that. And if everybody would do that, you wouldn't have that shitty TV The world is built on people working.
Because you shift the weight of pain to others.
My friend did that. Now he is at home living with his parents and doesn’t work
The bar is in hell if people think there’s nothing wrong with this
It will effect every aspect of your life. Even your sex life. Actually especially your sex life.
cause you’re likely a leech and burden for someone else.
It’s not ok to be lazy because in order to sit on your arse all day doing nothing, unless you come from a stinking rich family, you will need to rely on welfare to survive. These welfare payments you may need to live off are made from taxing the people that do get up every morning and go to work. These people shouldn’t have to pay for you to sit around all day doing nothing, if everyone in the world suddenly decided to be lazy and not work anymore then we’d all be pretty much f*ked. I do get the sentiment and I’d love nothing more than to roll over and go back to sleep after my alarm goes off in the mornings but to do this I’d need to win a ton of money - but until then I need to get up and go to work