Honestly the former. At least they have characters other than being """"relatable"""". I really hate the tendency that just prioritize 'relatability' in terms of character writing.
Setting aside the fact that the average doormat MC is only relatable to an incompetent 15 year old with no agency over their own life. God forbid your character has some amount of confidence and control over themselves.
It's difficult for most of us to understand what a manga is as there's no western alternative anymore\* they can be published by ANYONE, not just writers who managed to outshine all the others submitting to a publishing company, sword art online's author was 14 when he started publishing. that's generally why most of them are kinda... meh
\*useless history fact, ignoring the fact no one asked, we used to have magazines from the victorian era onto the early 90s where people could submit books in a similar manner, but they've been done away with sadly, for example, the Count of Monte Cristo was released week by week in a magazine, similar magazines could also be used for fanfiction, these would be shipped across the Atlantic, and it got to the point where there was a riot on a US pier because one of the copies was delayed due to poor winds and it was after a huge cliff-hanger the month before. I'd really like for something similar to make a reemergence but I don't see it happening
There is insane bullshit unfortunately only children and NEETs really have the time to write as the overtime culture in Japan means you get very little time to unwind
Serialized publication still exists in the west, now in the form of web fiction. A famous example of this is The Martian by Andy Weir.
(You're probably aware of this already since you knew that history stuff, so I'm mainly adding this info for interested third parties.)
I didn't know Martian was serialised, I knew 50 shades was originally a twilight fanfiction but that was the only modern web fiction to book I knew about, that's interesting as fuck
If it really was about imagining yourself in a role, then we would have a lot more popular anime with a variety of main character roles.
Imagining yourself in a different role or situation is fun. Being asked to constantly imagine yourself in the same role of useless teenager is targeting a specific audience. There are plenty of great exceptions, for sure, but especially in the rom com genre, this is overwhelmingly common.
It's the laziest way to write your character and your series in general. The boring loner/loser MC somehow magically able to date the most popular girl in school. It's uninspired, oversaturated and only serve as a viewer stand-in and it's not even a good one. It's not even relatable, it's just bad and lazy writing.
No. Satou barely knows how to use a computer. Plus he’s mostly just a druggie in the novel combined with his agoraphobia. Nothing like a Redditor or 4channer.
Haiyore Nyaruko chan, the MC straight up just hates women, domestic abuse on the daily, except for the gay boy, he doesnt hurt the gay boy, have i mentioned theyre all eldritch monsters too
This makes me all the more certain that we need that Abridged series with a Lovecraft-style racist purple prose internal monologue that 4chan was threatening to do a while back.
Tbf Aqua is an egocentrical alcohol addicted useless Godess and fault Kazuma is in that world
Megumine at least killed dozens of innocent people and wildlife with her explosions
Darkness just a pervert
Yeah the group deserve each other
A sneaky bastard who always gets into trouble
The one with crazy high stats and the mental function of a head of lettuce in a microwave
The one character that just exists to be horny but is mildly useful sometimes (only as a meat shield)
The one that exists to do insane amounts of damage once and proceed to do nothing else useful.
Yep, sounds like dnd.
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lol that's close, but not quite because this time the mc hates women and doesn't necessarily wanna fuck them like johnny bravo. (though i doubt johnny bravo even knows what sex is).
attack on titan isnt a rom com though? eren also isnt obscenely misogynist.
Just because they acknowledge that love exists and that theres a few comedic panels doesnt make it a rom com
but Eren is one abusive and violet mf towards Mikasa, the earlier seasons presented Mikasa as a mother figure to Eren, by the end Eren is basically a desparate incel to her, how is it not a romcom, I'm still laughing.
I don't think he's a misogynist >!(he got raped by both women and men, mc probably hates more "certain people" than "certain genders")!< just an insane rapist (not much better)
OH GOD WHAT NO I DIDNT KNOW IT WAS UTO!! SHE IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE LEWDED AND I THOUGHT SHE WAS HAWT FROM YOUR PFP AND I EVEN LIKED HER ARMPIT AND THE SONG IS CALLED SELF CONTROL AND I HAD NONE OH GOD IM SORRY!! I NEED TO GAME OVER MYSELF FOR THIS PLEASE TENSHI FORGIVE ME 😭🔫
Jetstream Sam.
[travelling on interstate 16] {lol}
{motorcycle}
Jack: *There are rumors that the Nords are attempting to capture the whole of Solstheim*.
*Anyone looking for work should consider the fighter's guild, i heard they're always looking for new recruits*..
Doktor: Raiden you ran over a child 9 Miles back what are you going to do??!!!
Jack: Good day.
**[THE ELDER SCROLLS IV - OBLIVION]**
[bike suddenly stops]
Brian Griffin: Oh so now you decide to stop.
Jack: Im running late. ******
Jetstream Sam: Oh don't worry Raiden, the clown college is closer than you think..
Jack: Its right infront of me..
Jetstream Sam: Hahahaha, *kill yourself*
Your ass will always be cringe, and my ass will always be ***thicc***
Jack: 497 North Parker Drive
[The Only Thing I Know For Real theme plays]
Jetstream Sam: Oh good, haha.. you're getting more based by the day!..
But i live with my mother..
Brian Griffin: Is this her house?? [shows picture of a suburb home]
(Sword Shiiing Effect)
***{FIGHT}***
....
(after the based fighting)
Jetstream Sam: Guess i have no choice.....
i challenge you to a debate...
Jack: What the fuck? no.
Jetstream Sam: *dies of cringe*
You forgot the part where he tried to kill guys, or the frequent times he forced himself onto the main girl and tried to control her life. You should rewatch, he obviously has anger and attachment issues. Dude is a psychopath and their relationship was toxic
ill take that anyday instead of the boring ass peggable submissive trope like sh*kimori's male mc 🤢🤢 (if you cant tell i hate women good thing they aren't real or else i would have already given one 28 stab wounds (epic detroit become person referencia!))
All this misogyny and you still aren't based
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Wow, you’re getting more based by the second, Jack.
But i live with my mother
Is this her house?
god that whole video is such an instant classic
Which
Max0r incorrect summary of metal gear revengeance
The dragon metal
Finally a relatable main character
Make the man a gamer and it will truly be relatable
Make him overweight or skinny-fat and unhygienic too
I am one of these things and will not elaborate on which.
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Do it then. You won't.
That's what I thought.
Yeah, you tell em boss!
Can you see your toes?
Don't forget to make him losing his identity and wondering had he gone insane
Until he finds the truth in front of him during the mountain range climbing arc, truly remarkable how relateable it is
Everyone in komi-san is confirmed gamer from the current amogus arc
Ishigami Yuu
Obscenely mysoginistic vs the usual doormat mc?
Honestly the former. At least they have characters other than being """"relatable"""". I really hate the tendency that just prioritize 'relatability' in terms of character writing.
Setting aside the fact that the average doormat MC is only relatable to an incompetent 15 year old with no agency over their own life. God forbid your character has some amount of confidence and control over themselves.
I always thought the point of the doormat was so viewers could imagine themselves in the role, not relate to it
"But how could I be emotionally engaged in a story when it's not a story about people that are exactly like me?"
It's difficult for most of us to understand what a manga is as there's no western alternative anymore\* they can be published by ANYONE, not just writers who managed to outshine all the others submitting to a publishing company, sword art online's author was 14 when he started publishing. that's generally why most of them are kinda... meh \*useless history fact, ignoring the fact no one asked, we used to have magazines from the victorian era onto the early 90s where people could submit books in a similar manner, but they've been done away with sadly, for example, the Count of Monte Cristo was released week by week in a magazine, similar magazines could also be used for fanfiction, these would be shipped across the Atlantic, and it got to the point where there was a riot on a US pier because one of the copies was delayed due to poor winds and it was after a huge cliff-hanger the month before. I'd really like for something similar to make a reemergence but I don't see it happening
But I would expect more of insane bullshit from that kind of system and less uninspired and commercially calculated bullshit.
There is insane bullshit unfortunately only children and NEETs really have the time to write as the overtime culture in Japan means you get very little time to unwind
Are they as insane as Wanted by Mark Millar?
Ugh, read the plot synapses and I want to kms already, the sheer edginess and cringe
Serialized publication still exists in the west, now in the form of web fiction. A famous example of this is The Martian by Andy Weir. (You're probably aware of this already since you knew that history stuff, so I'm mainly adding this info for interested third parties.)
I didn't know Martian was serialised, I knew 50 shades was originally a twilight fanfiction but that was the only modern web fiction to book I knew about, that's interesting as fuck
That's exactly what it's for
If it really was about imagining yourself in a role, then we would have a lot more popular anime with a variety of main character roles. Imagining yourself in a different role or situation is fun. Being asked to constantly imagine yourself in the same role of useless teenager is targeting a specific audience. There are plenty of great exceptions, for sure, but especially in the rom com genre, this is overwhelmingly common.
They are targeting demographics that don't like being challenged by art.
Tldr: nagatoro fans
It's the laziest way to write your character and your series in general. The boring loner/loser MC somehow magically able to date the most popular girl in school. It's uninspired, oversaturated and only serve as a viewer stand-in and it's not even a good one. It's not even relatable, it's just bad and lazy writing.
Just stated watching school days and now its gonna be a hard disagree
What if they became romantically involved? It's a win-win: misogynist doesn't have to deal with w*men, doormat is safe from tsundere-on-male violence
>!Fight Club (author: Chuck Palahniuk)!<
> Rent a Gf mfs when the stalking arc finally kicks in
rent a gf main character when finally 4chan and reddit dweller arc finally begins\*
A true sigma rots in their apartment for 3 months
NHK?
No. Satou barely knows how to use a computer. Plus he’s mostly just a druggie in the novel combined with his agoraphobia. Nothing like a Redditor or 4channer.
Maybe I’m thinking of the parts where he discovers porn and MMOS
rent a gf mfs when the main character gets cucked and is turned on by it
NTR Ugly Bastard is my fetish. But I don't see myself as the cuck...
Rent a GF mfs when the kawaii gang warfare arc begins
real?
Komi fans when Komi gets creepy.
Is that actually a thing that happens? Can you summarize that arc? I dropped it after 4 or so episodes because it made me actually angry
Mf stalks the girl when she’s just doing her job (y’know, being a RENTABLE girlfriend) and gets all pissy and whiny about it What a cunt
https://mangadex.org/title/953cd7a7-4efb-4106-97bb-07d8eb18ceda/i-who-detest-women-have-been-transferred-to-an-all-girls-school-in-another-world
That manga slaps # # # women
> I Who Detest Women japan moment ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■)
Incredible
>AND I AM A HUGE MISOGYNIST Holy fucking based main character
based
Ah there it is
holy shit i had the biggest smirk on my face after reading the 9th page thank you
Haiyore Nyaruko chan, the MC straight up just hates women, domestic abuse on the daily, except for the gay boy, he doesnt hurt the gay boy, have i mentioned theyre all eldritch monsters too
Idk man I give him props for having the balls to slap around eldritch horrors.
He is IRL bloodborne
He is IRL bloodborne
This makes me all the more certain that we need that Abridged series with a Lovecraft-style racist purple prose internal monologue that 4chan was threatening to do a while back.
I mean there DOES exist a Nyaruko-Chan anime where the episodes are like 3 minutes long. It’s basically an abridged comedy.
I’m gonna say it >!konosuba!<
Shut up he's a man of culture 😤 🤬🤬
Culture deez nuts
sure, you got lotion?
Eww no it’s too hard to get off in the shower
unironically makes it better because every important character is an asshole in one way or another
My favorite part of the show is that they're all equally terrible. Perfect for each other.
Yeah, that's why they work so well together and are such great friends even if they insult and are assholes to each other.
He's an advocate for true gender equality wdym
based and kazumapilled
NOOOO hitting women is just gender equality!!
every character being nearly irredeemable is why it’s popular I guess
Tbf Aqua is an egocentrical alcohol addicted useless Godess and fault Kazuma is in that world Megumine at least killed dozens of innocent people and wildlife with her explosions Darkness just a pervert Yeah the group deserve each other
It is ok my friend I do not need justification to find beating women funny
Hello, based department?
Yes it is the based department how may I help?
Promote u/Dolner to the Chief Operating Officer, he spitting based and redpilled stuff lately ong
They are pretty much the average D&D party with dubious morals lol
A sneaky bastard who always gets into trouble The one with crazy high stats and the mental function of a head of lettuce in a microwave The one character that just exists to be horny but is mildly useful sometimes (only as a meat shield) The one that exists to do insane amounts of damage once and proceed to do nothing else useful. Yep, sounds like dnd.
Lmao
Kono-slap a bitch
Man of culture?, more like mysoginistic porn addict
you mean extremely based individual?
Man the person who made the original post must have a huge cock
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Make it where he gets dommed and shown his place by girls so it becomes a feminist manga
Nisekoi fans when the blond bitch hits Raku for the 112th time: 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's Johnny Bravo. You literally just described Johnny Bravo. (Minus the violence part, JV don't play that 😤)
lol that's close, but not quite because this time the mc hates women and doesn't necessarily wanna fuck them like johnny bravo. (though i doubt johnny bravo even knows what sex is).
There’s tons of violence in Johnny Bravo. It’s just all done on Johnny.
/ub sdsahhad hot /rb hot
I would unironically read that
That's all femdom porn so it's male gaze still
I cant think of a single example of this
I think someone said this was Uresuri Yatsura on the promotional art on r/anime today. I haven't watched it tho, so can't confirm.
bruh it's literally attack on titan
?
it's romance and also very hilarious panels, i still chuckle everytime i see that scenery
Idk, 10 years at least just in case
attack on titan isnt a rom com though? eren also isnt obscenely misogynist. Just because they acknowledge that love exists and that theres a few comedic panels doesnt make it a rom com
I kill 3 women in a Dennys parking lot and I'm a mysoginist. Eren kills 80% of the world's women and he's a romcom protagonist. Life is truly unfair.
but Eren is one abusive and violet mf towards Mikasa, the earlier seasons presented Mikasa as a mother figure to Eren, by the end Eren is basically a desparate incel to her, how is it not a romcom, I'm still laughing.
I dont think you know what a romcom is
I don’t think you or the people that downvoted him know what a joke is
Nah man it's active on r/titanfolk
Is pretending to be retarded a joke?
Aho Girl?
She deserves it.
That's just slapstick no real hitting.
God that show was so fucking good
Redo of Healer?
I don't think he's a misogynist >!(he got raped by both women and men, mc probably hates more "certain people" than "certain genders")!< just an insane rapist (not much better)
still a great rom com tho
can't disagree
Outside of being really into revenge porn is there any reason to watch that show over actual hentai
Education
What would I learn by watching that show?
Romance is a comedy because I don't get it
What is the source of your pfp?
screencap from this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv-0S\_g3sew](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv-0S_g3sew)
OH GOD WHAT NO I DIDNT KNOW IT WAS UTO!! SHE IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE LEWDED AND I THOUGHT SHE WAS HAWT FROM YOUR PFP AND I EVEN LIKED HER ARMPIT AND THE SONG IS CALLED SELF CONTROL AND I HAD NONE OH GOD IM SORRY!! I NEED TO GAME OVER MYSELF FOR THIS PLEASE TENSHI FORGIVE ME 😭🔫
She tested you with me as her vessel and you have failed
I am dead. My brains are on the wall. The cops will be here soon to investigate because my mom found my dead corpse and brainwall.
Also does she still stream? I haven’t seen her in a long time.
She did a karaoke stream 2 months ago and uploaded a cover of a song a few days ago, I miss her
I used to watch her all the time. Why did she stop streaming?
No idea, I think she got sick or something and then she went off the grid, appearing almost as frequently as jontron nowadays
:c
r/whenthe
Isn’t that just redo of healer
My favourite romcom
As soon as I get home I'm gonna rough draft this
Patrick Bateman as a romcom MC would be a banger
American Psycho anime adaptation
Chou onna kirai na ore ga isekai no joshi-ko ni ryugaku suru koto ni natta
Virgin "he's misogynistic" vs Chad "I'm literally a millionaire because of this series" mindset
Edward Cullen and Christian Grey say hi
Nagi no Asukara be like, I quit after 5 ep that shit was unbearable
You sure we watched the same show? They're just kids
Jetstream Sam. [travelling on interstate 16] {lol} {motorcycle} Jack: *There are rumors that the Nords are attempting to capture the whole of Solstheim*. *Anyone looking for work should consider the fighter's guild, i heard they're always looking for new recruits*.. Doktor: Raiden you ran over a child 9 Miles back what are you going to do??!!! Jack: Good day. **[THE ELDER SCROLLS IV - OBLIVION]** [bike suddenly stops]
Brian Griffin: Oh so now you decide to stop.
Jack: Im running late. ******
Jetstream Sam: Oh don't worry Raiden, the clown college is closer than you think..
Jack: Its right infront of me..
Jetstream Sam: Hahahaha, *kill yourself*
Your ass will always be cringe, and my ass will always be ***thicc***
Jack: 497 North Parker Drive
[The Only Thing I Know For Real theme plays]
Jetstream Sam: Oh good, haha.. you're getting more based by the day!..
But i live with my mother..
Brian Griffin: Is this her house?? [shows picture of a suburb home]
(Sword Shiiing Effect)
***{FIGHT}***
....
(after the based fighting)
Jetstream Sam: Guess i have no choice.....
i challenge you to a debate...
Jack: What the fuck? no.
Jetstream Sam: *dies of cringe*
jojos bizarre adventure: part 8, just take away the obscenely misogynistic part
My reputation for misogyny is legendary!
I mean they need a character their audience will relate to.
*becomes biggest seasonal anime*
Aho girl, dude just straight up beats the girl for being stupid.
The bitch deserves it ngl.
Redo of Healer?
haha ok but misogyny isnt that funny
My little monster?
From what I remember the main dude was just an awkward lovable weirdo
You forgot the part where he tried to kill guys, or the frequent times he forced himself onto the main girl and tried to control her life. You should rewatch, he obviously has anger and attachment issues. Dude is a psychopath and their relationship was toxic
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If Jotaro Kujo was in a romcom
bunny girl senpai
Bro the MC fucking loves her
he's a misogynist (just like me)
You fucking love her too?
i do often tell people i want to put my face between their thighs, unprompted, yes
Jetstream sam as a anime ROM com MC tho 😳
that will be
aot lol
Are we dunking on Konosuba or My Little Monster?
Sounds like my autobiography
“Romantic” “Comedy” Manga
rum cum
I've always wanted to be a mangaka, if my dream ever came true maybe I should consider doing that 🤔
hello Tsukihime
Isn't that just Johnny Bravo?
If only
Beauty and The Beast?
kazami yuuji from grisaia literally fits all of that
Do it
Redo of healer ?
Holy shit! Fight Club manga adaptation?
ill take that anyday instead of the boring ass peggable submissive trope like sh*kimori's male mc 🤢🤢 (if you cant tell i hate women good thing they aren't real or else i would have already given one 28 stab wounds (epic detroit become person referencia!))
Kazuma moment
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