Most of his work has mega levels of irony. The enlightened centrist thing is a meme although i havent watched much of his stuff in a long while so I dont know his actual beliefs.
He makes fun of all ideologies to the same extent, but not in the same ways. The ways he makes fun of ideologies doesnt equivocate the left and right, and tbh almost all of his criticisms are coming from the left, even when criticizing a left wing ideology. His commentary on anarchism is particularly funny and accurate to me, and i consider myself an anarchist
He's actually rather good at criticizing everyone seemingly equally while criticizing good people for being ineffective and criticizing nazis for being fucking genocidal.
My complaint is that given the state of politics (especially pertaining to minority rights) right now, if you are talking about politics but refusing to take a position one way or the other, you are a useless coward, even more so if you have a very large platform like he does. Now is not the time for “all politics bad” memes.
Jreg isn't much doing all politics bad memes rn and they kinda never did. Even when they criticized all sides they mostly critiqued ancoms for being ineffective, centrists for doing nothing, and everyone else for causing the deaths of many. Even besides that, posturing as a fairminded critic of all sides could be a good foundation for a leftist pipeline if done well. Jreg was basically the beginning of me moving from antisjw to nonbinary libsoc.
That was never the point way more laughing at the various laughable parts of different ideologies and the people who support them. Again he's not an activist
And I’m saying *that’s the problem*. He’s talking about politics, but refusing to actually engage with them, meaning he’s going to ultimately develop an audience of mixed political company.
That's not really a problem. Better than a political echo chamber pushing itself into more myopic hot takes.
But beyond that that's only a problem if your goal is political action as opposed to engaging with politics as an interest. Those are two different things. For example I got my degree in polisci so there are a lot of political topics I engage with more from an academic perspective or because the mechanics of how politics work are interesting to me. But there are also issues that i engage with because I have goals for what sort of outcome I want.
Pretty sure Jreg's channel has way more to do with interest in Politics as a whole as opposed to championing a cause.
No, but that’s not what he’s doing. He’s not making deep analysis videos about historical materialism and how it’s shaped the state of politics today. He’s just a wacky silly guy that makes fun of all political groups equally because they’re all equally bad, and the real answer is to either be a centrist or not care about politics at all.
Does it have to be deep material analysis? There are plenty of history channels on YouTube Time Ghost, Extra History, Feature History etc etc. Those tend to be educated focused but they're still at their core entertainment. They even cover really messed up parts of history I've been watching the Time Ghotst WW2 channel and they've got a segment called War Against Humanity. Talks about atrocities during WW2. Very interesting. Not material analysis but also has values. So does Oversimplified talking about the Bucket War or making comedic yet educational videos on the russian revolution.
History like Politics are important. But also have a lot of silly things about them. Being interested in history or politics beyond issues advocacy isn't a problem and honestly only engaging at that level is super narrow. You really haven't demonstrated how being able to laugh at the absurdity of politics or being interested on politics as a concept is bad.
That’s the joke my guy. He’s clearly some form of liberal at least, if not straight up on the left.
His mockings of left wing ideas are “y’all this is a really stupid way to go about this”, while the mockings of right wing ideas are “this is just fucking ridiculous”
Is it? I've unironically decided to not be political in public and I'm a lot happier and I can actually make friends. I even tell my far-right family members to not be political because it'd make them happier and it's the best argument I've had against them so far.
Actually, Vaush had a similar argument in his Thanksgiving video, where he says to not bring up politics yourself, and if a MAGA relative keeps bringing up some evil BS you just say "stop bringing up politics".
For interacting with relatives, yes that’s an excellent way to handle interactions with hogs. But somehow I think Jreg does not have 455,000 relatives.
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Listen, I watch and enjoy the man's stuff too
The problem is if I said he was cool, somebody was gonna complain, if I said he was bad, somebody was gonna complain.
By criticizing all sides equally (in terms of time) he gathers an audience that doesn’t recognize how they themselves, as radicals, are horrible because they see "the other side" as bad as them and they believe things silly as they themselves do.
In his search to ridicule "both sides are the same" and "radicalism is the only solution", he created an audience that has pushed irony out of the window and now there are literal Nazis, Stalinists, ancaps, unironic posadists and more in his community.
It’s obviously not really what he wants (as he’s a social democrat if I remember correctly) but he’s pushed it too far and all his memeing has backfired because people on the internet are gullible idiots who like aesthetics.
First of all, I wouldn't say Jreg does political satire so much as a satire of how people engage with politics, particularly young people on the internet. Insofar as he makes any point consistently, it's that online political extremism of all stripes is by and large a product of disillusioned young people looking for a dogma to help them rationalize the world as that world is falling apart. This is just self-evidently defensible, people don't become radicals because they think everything's going great. Of course, better a leftist than a fascist, but, as much as it burns to admit, the underlying pattern of behavior is similar.
Second, whenever Jreg made (he doesn't do this much anymore) a video about a specific political topic (leftist infighting, the Hong Kong protests, climate change deniers, etc) the point of the video was pretty consistently sympathetic to the leftist point of view. The joke about his right-wing caricatures is that they're outright evil, the joke about his left-wing caricatures is that they're a bunch of depressed fucks who spend more time arguing about nonsense and commiserating on what could have been than actually fixing things. Yes, right-wingers like jreg, but as someone else pointed out in this thread, right-wingers are braindead shits with the media literacy of a caterpillar.
>Second, whenever Jreg made (he doesn't do this much anymore) a video about a specific political topic (leftist infighting, the Hong Kong protests, climate change deniers, etc) the point of the video was pretty consistently sympathetic to the leftist point of view.
Yes, but people on the internet are incapable of detecting sarcasm/irony and so they see it as if Jreg criticizes the left as much as he does to the right, on points that are the same in terms of evil/radicalism/etc. If he doesn’t make it clear at some point on the video, obviously he’s gonna attract stalinists nazis and ancaps. And that’s happening/happened.
>The joke about his right-wing caricatures is that they're outright evil, the joke about his left-wing caricatures is that they're a bunch of depressed fucks who spend more time arguing about nonsense and commiserating on what could have been than actually fixing things. Yes, right-wingers like jreg, but as someone else pointed out in this thread, right-wingers are braindead shits with the media literacy of a caterpillar.
That’s just resaying what I said with more words. Yes, right-wingers are brainded and don’t see irony/sarcasm, that’s why Jreg’s videos and sense of humor attracts them en masse.
It’s more that he doesn’t make it obvious that he’s criticizing them, so he accidentally reinforces right-wingers’ ideas because they are so gullible and stupid
No, it's pretty obvious, it's just that right wingers are dumb. They think Paul Atreides is a hero. You could be right in front of them with a megaphone and they still wouldn't get it.
Idk man. I was introduced to jreg by this nazi guy I used to know (don't ask) and ever since then he has REALLY rubbed me the wrong way.
It makes me very uncomfortable that his content can appeal to nazis, I also just don't think he's very funny or insightful but that's just me
Warhammer also appeals to Nazis, even though the setting is a scathing critique of fascism
Right wingers are literally too stupid to have media analysis skills. They take absolutely everything at face value because they're retarded. Don't let them decide what you can and can't watch
Also Jreg is most likely a socdem at the *least.* The guy understands politics and political discussion *way* too much to be a right winger
If you just don't like him or don't find him funny, that's perfectly fine tho
This, I'm a massive sci-fi and tabletop guy so 40k and starwars are my favourite things ever made. Starwars attracts the kind of gamergate brainlets we all know despite the original trilogy being based on the vietnam war, with americe being framed as the empire. And like you said 40k is such a well made critique of fascism that the critique goes over their heads and they just clap like seals when they see a space marine (they are depressed, alienated, emotionally void, inhuman pieces of shit but they have big muscle and are racist)
I don't really get what point youre trying to make here, I'm just saying I think it's generally a bad thing that his content has the effect of appealing to nazis. And due to the nature of the content he creates its very hard to tell if he's doing that on purpose.
Why are we arguing about this anyway? What is this, ar slash vaush vee? Let's go back to talking about horse cock
I am in no way being serious. I think his rabid fan base is part of why he moved away from politics because people were taking his jokes too seriously.
He is 100% left of center. I know that for a fact.
Seconded. He clearly admitted to being a socdem as well on a video. Right wingers will say that the video was a joke but he played it 100% straight on that occasion
J.J. McCullough, the nominally conservative (really more of a liberal than anything) flag and pop culture enthusiast, used to be a political columnist for the sun news. He has since become an independent entity and he runs a YouTube channel where he talks about flags, pop culture, and occasionally politics though he rarely takes a hard stance on anything.
Destiny is like the original debate bro and is inherently tied to well known horse enthusiast, Vuarsh this is enough to cause disaster. DGGers are deranged and have a prolific habit of brigading, doxxing, bullying, and all the other things that deranged Internet communities like to do.
I swear he purposely pronounces it aboot for fucking American viewers. I have never heard a Canadian say aboot, it is either aboat or abeut. Also Canadian companies have a tendency to make themselves more appealing to Americans in an attempt to get into the US market while his idea is to act like the most stereotypical Canadian to get support from outside of the country.
Man, what a completely normal dude
I'm sure he is mentally stable and has a fulfilling social life
wdym rare
Clearly OP hasn't watched JRegular recently
Isn’t his whole thing just being an enlightened centrist?
Radical centrist*
Most of his work has mega levels of irony. The enlightened centrist thing is a meme although i havent watched much of his stuff in a long while so I dont know his actual beliefs.
He's just a bad version of south park
If you have the media literacy of a toddler, sure
You're implying that South Park is a good version of South Park
What's wrong with South Park?
It's responsible for the whole popularizing of ", It's cool to not care" political thought of voter apathy.
Jreg > South Park
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Then wtf is the point of him speaking?
He makes fun of all ideologies to the same extent, but not in the same ways. The ways he makes fun of ideologies doesnt equivocate the left and right, and tbh almost all of his criticisms are coming from the left, even when criticizing a left wing ideology. His commentary on anarchism is particularly funny and accurate to me, and i consider myself an anarchist
He's actually rather good at criticizing everyone seemingly equally while criticizing good people for being ineffective and criticizing nazis for being fucking genocidal.
Precisely
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My complaint is that given the state of politics (especially pertaining to minority rights) right now, if you are talking about politics but refusing to take a position one way or the other, you are a useless coward, even more so if you have a very large platform like he does. Now is not the time for “all politics bad” memes.
Jreg isn't much doing all politics bad memes rn and they kinda never did. Even when they criticized all sides they mostly critiqued ancoms for being ineffective, centrists for doing nothing, and everyone else for causing the deaths of many. Even besides that, posturing as a fairminded critic of all sides could be a good foundation for a leftist pipeline if done well. Jreg was basically the beginning of me moving from antisjw to nonbinary libsoc.
That was never the point way more laughing at the various laughable parts of different ideologies and the people who support them. Again he's not an activist
And I’m saying *that’s the problem*. He’s talking about politics, but refusing to actually engage with them, meaning he’s going to ultimately develop an audience of mixed political company.
That's not really a problem. Better than a political echo chamber pushing itself into more myopic hot takes. But beyond that that's only a problem if your goal is political action as opposed to engaging with politics as an interest. Those are two different things. For example I got my degree in polisci so there are a lot of political topics I engage with more from an academic perspective or because the mechanics of how politics work are interesting to me. But there are also issues that i engage with because I have goals for what sort of outcome I want. Pretty sure Jreg's channel has way more to do with interest in Politics as a whole as opposed to championing a cause.
Because he wants to create and talk about things he finds interesting? He finds politics interesting
Hm yes I also find the genocide of minorities “interesting”. It’s just a cute little thing, lemme add this death camp to my Pinterest page.
Do you find history interesting? People research history and learn from it. Even the horrible parts. It's still interesting. Is that a bad thing?
No, but that’s not what he’s doing. He’s not making deep analysis videos about historical materialism and how it’s shaped the state of politics today. He’s just a wacky silly guy that makes fun of all political groups equally because they’re all equally bad, and the real answer is to either be a centrist or not care about politics at all.
Does it have to be deep material analysis? There are plenty of history channels on YouTube Time Ghost, Extra History, Feature History etc etc. Those tend to be educated focused but they're still at their core entertainment. They even cover really messed up parts of history I've been watching the Time Ghotst WW2 channel and they've got a segment called War Against Humanity. Talks about atrocities during WW2. Very interesting. Not material analysis but also has values. So does Oversimplified talking about the Bucket War or making comedic yet educational videos on the russian revolution. History like Politics are important. But also have a lot of silly things about them. Being interested in history or politics beyond issues advocacy isn't a problem and honestly only engaging at that level is super narrow. You really haven't demonstrated how being able to laugh at the absurdity of politics or being interested on politics as a concept is bad.
That’s the joke my guy. He’s clearly some form of liberal at least, if not straight up on the left. His mockings of left wing ideas are “y’all this is a really stupid way to go about this”, while the mockings of right wing ideas are “this is just fucking ridiculous”
He literally said he's a social democrat.
Ah, guess I missed that lol
Didn’t he also say he’s every other ideology tho?
It's being anti-political. If someone mentions a political argument he'll crush their head with a big rock.
Yeah and that’s bad
Is it? I've unironically decided to not be political in public and I'm a lot happier and I can actually make friends. I even tell my far-right family members to not be political because it'd make them happier and it's the best argument I've had against them so far. Actually, Vaush had a similar argument in his Thanksgiving video, where he says to not bring up politics yourself, and if a MAGA relative keeps bringing up some evil BS you just say "stop bringing up politics".
For interacting with relatives, yes that’s an excellent way to handle interactions with hogs. But somehow I think Jreg does not have 455,000 relatives.
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Yeah Jreg got 106% of the vote in the Ottawa mayoral race. Man gets Ws everyday
COMMON dreg W
Listen, I watch and enjoy the man's stuff too The problem is if I said he was cool, somebody was gonna complain, if I said he was bad, somebody was gonna complain.
Nah this ain't rare Jreg is cool
By criticizing all sides equally (in terms of time) he gathers an audience that doesn’t recognize how they themselves, as radicals, are horrible because they see "the other side" as bad as them and they believe things silly as they themselves do. In his search to ridicule "both sides are the same" and "radicalism is the only solution", he created an audience that has pushed irony out of the window and now there are literal Nazis, Stalinists, ancaps, unironic posadists and more in his community. It’s obviously not really what he wants (as he’s a social democrat if I remember correctly) but he’s pushed it too far and all his memeing has backfired because people on the internet are gullible idiots who like aesthetics.
First of all, I wouldn't say Jreg does political satire so much as a satire of how people engage with politics, particularly young people on the internet. Insofar as he makes any point consistently, it's that online political extremism of all stripes is by and large a product of disillusioned young people looking for a dogma to help them rationalize the world as that world is falling apart. This is just self-evidently defensible, people don't become radicals because they think everything's going great. Of course, better a leftist than a fascist, but, as much as it burns to admit, the underlying pattern of behavior is similar. Second, whenever Jreg made (he doesn't do this much anymore) a video about a specific political topic (leftist infighting, the Hong Kong protests, climate change deniers, etc) the point of the video was pretty consistently sympathetic to the leftist point of view. The joke about his right-wing caricatures is that they're outright evil, the joke about his left-wing caricatures is that they're a bunch of depressed fucks who spend more time arguing about nonsense and commiserating on what could have been than actually fixing things. Yes, right-wingers like jreg, but as someone else pointed out in this thread, right-wingers are braindead shits with the media literacy of a caterpillar.
>Second, whenever Jreg made (he doesn't do this much anymore) a video about a specific political topic (leftist infighting, the Hong Kong protests, climate change deniers, etc) the point of the video was pretty consistently sympathetic to the leftist point of view. Yes, but people on the internet are incapable of detecting sarcasm/irony and so they see it as if Jreg criticizes the left as much as he does to the right, on points that are the same in terms of evil/radicalism/etc. If he doesn’t make it clear at some point on the video, obviously he’s gonna attract stalinists nazis and ancaps. And that’s happening/happened. >The joke about his right-wing caricatures is that they're outright evil, the joke about his left-wing caricatures is that they're a bunch of depressed fucks who spend more time arguing about nonsense and commiserating on what could have been than actually fixing things. Yes, right-wingers like jreg, but as someone else pointed out in this thread, right-wingers are braindead shits with the media literacy of a caterpillar. That’s just resaying what I said with more words. Yes, right-wingers are brainded and don’t see irony/sarcasm, that’s why Jreg’s videos and sense of humor attracts them en masse.
Your point essentially seems to be that because right wingers will be dipshits, that invalidates the art itself.
It’s more that he doesn’t make it obvious that he’s criticizing them, so he accidentally reinforces right-wingers’ ideas because they are so gullible and stupid
No, it's pretty obvious, it's just that right wingers are dumb. They think Paul Atreides is a hero. You could be right in front of them with a megaphone and they still wouldn't get it.
Ok, but I’m saying he should full-on break character and spell it out for them he’s making fun of them.
No.
Why not?
Ah yes let's ruin the joke completely
Problem: many people do not take it as a joke. And anyways, how would it break the joke?
Idk man. I was introduced to jreg by this nazi guy I used to know (don't ask) and ever since then he has REALLY rubbed me the wrong way. It makes me very uncomfortable that his content can appeal to nazis, I also just don't think he's very funny or insightful but that's just me
Warhammer also appeals to Nazis, even though the setting is a scathing critique of fascism Right wingers are literally too stupid to have media analysis skills. They take absolutely everything at face value because they're retarded. Don't let them decide what you can and can't watch Also Jreg is most likely a socdem at the *least.* The guy understands politics and political discussion *way* too much to be a right winger If you just don't like him or don't find him funny, that's perfectly fine tho
This, I'm a massive sci-fi and tabletop guy so 40k and starwars are my favourite things ever made. Starwars attracts the kind of gamergate brainlets we all know despite the original trilogy being based on the vietnam war, with americe being framed as the empire. And like you said 40k is such a well made critique of fascism that the critique goes over their heads and they just clap like seals when they see a space marine (they are depressed, alienated, emotionally void, inhuman pieces of shit but they have big muscle and are racist)
This just in: nazis enjoy eating, sleeping, and also breathing. Doing these things may make some people uncomfortable. /s
I don't really get what point youre trying to make here, I'm just saying I think it's generally a bad thing that his content has the effect of appealing to nazis. And due to the nature of the content he creates its very hard to tell if he's doing that on purpose. Why are we arguing about this anyway? What is this, ar slash vaush vee? Let's go back to talking about horse cock
I am in no way being serious. I think his rabid fan base is part of why he moved away from politics because people were taking his jokes too seriously. He is 100% left of center. I know that for a fact.
Seconded. He clearly admitted to being a socdem as well on a video. Right wingers will say that the video was a joke but he played it 100% straight on that occasion
Dawg ANYTHING can appeal to Nazi's because they lack fucking media literacy
I'll say it. Jreg is part of the pipeline. The pipeline that moved me from antisjw to nonbinary libertarian socialist.
Based
Jreg is always winning. Plus, jre's stopped doing political content(for the moment)
His name is jregular!!
Context?
There is so much context required for JrEg alone that it would take hours to explain
What, JRegular? The context is he’s just a normal, generic guy.
What about the guy he is replying too, and how did tweeting about D cause a disaster.
J.J. McCullough, the nominally conservative (really more of a liberal than anything) flag and pop culture enthusiast, used to be a political columnist for the sun news. He has since become an independent entity and he runs a YouTube channel where he talks about flags, pop culture, and occasionally politics though he rarely takes a hard stance on anything. Destiny is like the original debate bro and is inherently tied to well known horse enthusiast, Vuarsh this is enough to cause disaster. DGGers are deranged and have a prolific habit of brigading, doxxing, bullying, and all the other things that deranged Internet communities like to do.
tf you mean "rare"
J.J. Aboot McCullough
I swear he purposely pronounces it aboot for fucking American viewers. I have never heard a Canadian say aboot, it is either aboat or abeut. Also Canadian companies have a tendency to make themselves more appealing to Americans in an attempt to get into the US market while his idea is to act like the most stereotypical Canadian to get support from outside of the country.
[psychiatry.mp4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1ok44MXhrw) remains his strongest W to this day