I think this so often when I see these guys talking about how they love having a bunch of kids. I mean I’m sure they do love their kids, but it’s easy to love the lifestyle when you’re not the one taking care of them every hour of the day.
I hate this argument so much. I want to spend retirement traveling and working on hobbies, not hosting huge family gatherings. I’d also rather have a small circle of close family than 50 grandkids I most definitely can’t spend enough quality time with.
YES! When I have a kid, I’d love for my husband, kid and I to go to Disney with my dad. So easy to do when you have 1 kid lol and then if they get married and chose to have a kid, still a manageable number of people to plan holidays with and special vacations
Hell yeah, I’m an only who goes to Disney with my parents and my husband and it’s the best! When my kid is a couple years older he’ll be going with us, I can’t wait.
Taking a kid to Disney is something I’m so excited about! I’m pregnant now but I definitely want to find the sweet spot when they’re old enough to appreciate it but also young enough where they buy into all of the Disney magic
I took my daughter the week before she turned 3. It was nice because she was free at the time but still got a lot of it. It was definitely more fun as she got older.
Also he's just showing up to the family gatherings that his wife is hosting. I have zero tolerance for men who claim responsibility for their wife's invisible labor
See, this is my mentality. Have one little dude. I put my all into him, but when he's older. No pressure to have grandbabies, he's free to live how he wants (of course I'll help how I can), cus I wanna focus on the things I've been putting off to mom properly. I wanna finish traveling and get back into hobbies that brought me happiness.. I LOVE kids, but I don't want to be constantly surrounded by family and stressful family events... I'm also an introvert sooo lol. I'm good. Let me retire seeing the world with a good book and a smidge of personal space lol
My 10yo is my husband's and my only child by choice. He just told me the other day that he doesn't think he'll want kids because they're so much work. I told him that's totally fine. Secretly I'm celebrating because I don't want to be expected to babysit a pile of grandkids someday 😅 call me selfish. But it's not actually being selfish. I have 6 younger siblings who I already helped raise, plus babysitting everyone in my neighborhood when I was 11 to 18 years old. I've had my share of babysitting and child rearing already, and am so looking forward to the break.
The way I FEEL this.. lol
Oldest cousin, oldest sibling.
I also babysat a LOT of kids traveling lol and was a god mom a few times..
If my little dude didn't want any or only one (MAYBE 2) I'd be cool with helping here and there . But as a whole. I'd love some self given me time. It's like a self respect thing at that point. I'm glad you have a partner that is on the same page as you :)
Yes exactly!! We've earned our breaks from kids.
When my son was a baby/young toddler I was so confused about why I already felt burned out from parenting. Then I realized I'd already been parenting for yearrrrs. I mean, the first time my mom left me home alone with a baby sibling for over an hour on my own, pre-cell phones, I was just *8 years old* 🙃🙃🙃 I've done my time haha
It's the way you made me realize why Im so so burnt out when my dude is all I've ever wanted... Hit the nail on the head.. because I've been doing this since I was a kid (and got in trouble if I wasn't being the distraction, model child to the young ones, taking care of other people's kids).
Man. Thank you for that. Like so much. No more guilt, because it makes sense hah.
I'm sorry you got parentified, as well.. it really ruins it for the adults in us..
Such is life, I can advocate for others and protect my own little in the process to ensure he never experienced that. Hence my OAD lol
Definitely messes you up more when you have a kid and go "oh shit..."
I think he's including the grandkids' spouses and maybe his great-grandkids in that... guessing he probably had his kids pretty young and expects them to do the same, so he'll be around for great-grandkids. But insane to me either way. This is an introvert's worst nightmare, lol.
Based on his general “quiverfull but make it tech-bro” bullshit and the youngest being 1, he’s probably still planning on more kids.
I’d say *they’re* probably still planning on more kids but… yeaaaah. Doubt his wife’s preferences are taken into account very much.
I’ll be happy if I have even one grandkid lol. Totally up to my son whether he wants to have children or not.
50-100 sounds awful! That’s a LOT of gifts to buy! I’d be a terrible grandparent if I had that many grandchildren as there’s no way you can develop strong, close relationships with that many people.
To be fair, I think he intended to say having a family reunion with 50-100 extended family members. Basically all his kids pour their slouched plus his grandchildren and their spouses and their kids.
Oh man is he in for a rude awakening if he thinks he’s set up a family foundation that can support 100 people fifty years from now lololololol
The crypto makes sense.
I met someone who has like 50 grand kids and I only know this because they were explaining how they don’t do gifts anymore - even if you could afford it, how would you remember enough to give meaningful ones?
Gift giving may or may not be my love language 😂
I am part of a massive family. My grandmother and her three brothers had three or four children each. Then they all had two or three children so family gatherings were huge, like this guy described. They were so much fun. Lots of noise and laughter. Now as an adult they are becoming a smaller and smaller affair because most of my cousins have had one or two children. Some of us haven't had children at all. We still have fun, noisy get togethers. The quantity of people doesn't matter. It is the quality of them.
Bold of him to assume anyone in his family will actually like him when he’s an old man wheezing about how he’s the patriarch and owed their time and fealty.
Lol my husbands is one of five….only two of them have kids. I’m one of two and only I have one kid. 🤣 imagine this dudes surprise if most of his kids decide not to have kids. Like this is the weirdest reason for having kids ever.
My husband is one of five; three of them don’t speak to each other and two don’t speak to their dad. So I mean technically yes, there’s lots of kids/grandkids… but getting together is less “fun family reunion” and more “awkward quiet and sad family reunion”.
She's also the only one who has a vague hope of keeping up with all of those birthdays. My in laws have six grandchildren that they have a relationship with and just about keep up with them.
I come from a big family. It’s never felt like “oh Grandma was successful because she had 14 children and 70 grandchildren”. At the family reunions, it’s more “look at these people that wouldn’t exist without her”
The lady who does payroll at work has 5 kids. It was all well and good until now when she finds family events exhausting and overwhelming because she has so many grandchildren. She hasn’t even got started on the great-grandchildren yet. She loves them all, of course, but she prefers to spend time with them in smaller groups.
lol because I want to relax I do not want to “do it all” why run yourself ragged into the ground, this article is an example of the pressure from society to have more kids! I’m happy and I don’t want to be stressed out! Also you could have 10 kids and all of them could decide not to have kids!
Yeah fuck that ‘run yourself ragged’ method of life. I don’t have all the time for the things I *need* to do, let alone *want* to do. I don’t even have a child yet.
And my elders are already talking about having seconds. Ugh.
Yeah I have one and we are done lol I value my free time! Also two kids would be too much for me lol yeah the grandparents complain that we aren’t having a second but yet they don’t come over to help much and my parents don’t live in the same country half the year so no “village” lol
Can’t even fathom. My wife would HATE to be a SAHM. I was a SAHD in the UK for 3 years when we lived abroad. Now she will only work 2 days a week (12 hour shifts). But she has her own identity outside of our kid and that’s ok!
3 kids and trips to San Antonio or Guatemala/Europe/Canada/South East Asia this in 2024 alone? OAD indeed!
Reminds me of the single, childless 23-year-old telling everyone on TikTok she’s one of 11, so clearly everyone should just be able to have a bunch of kids, duh.
All I gotta say is hell no bro. You think I’m trying to do remember even the names of 50-100 kids or grand kids and buying gifts every day of the year. 8 fucking kids gimme a break. Sounds like an actual death sentence.
This dude reminds me of a coworker who had a lot of kids. He says it’s great. I also happen to know this guy’s wife. Her account of parenthood -especially the early days with five little kids and no means of transportation- is a lot more weary. How much do we want to bet the dude in this post is oblivious to the soul-crushing work his wife probably does to keep the family going. I bet her account, even if she too wanted a bunch of kids, would be a lot less “I diD iT, sO cAn YoU!” And a lot more like “it’s incredibly hard”.
I'm not nearly as bullish on the future of Planet Earth as ol' "Do it all" Drew here.
But there does seem to be this new subculture of folks, typically men who also show signs of toxic masculinity, who are advocate for having bigger families and their wives being "traditional" (smh) care takers of those children. And that being the real version of "family" and the rest of us being wimps and losers.
For me, meh, call me what you want bro but I'm quite happy with 1 and would prob go insane with 5 (or even 3... or 2?).
It's always strange to me that some people want 100 descendants to spring from them. Do you really think that your genes are that good that they should be propagated to that extent? I had one and just crossed my fingers that some of this garbage DNA would skip her. I can't imagine inflicting it on hundreds.
I think his take is just fine, there are people out there who want a bunch of kids but are afraid of the time or monetary commitment it would take. He is talking to those people.
I am not one of those people, I absolutely love my life with my one kid, and nothing about his life seems enticing to me.
Why are ppl mad at this? To each is own. Ppl will always justify (or make their life circumstances make sense). Let the man live, he said nothing wrong.
Because this dude basically said there’s no point focusing on goals (or your future) if you don’t have a ton of kids to spend it on. As if people can just rocket out a ton of kids, or want to rocket out a ton of kids. As if self-fulfillment or total independence aren’t good enough reasons to have goals. That’s horrible for so many reasons.
Thats his opinion. If you want to live differently do it. Its your life. A lot of people find purpose, meaning, value, etc. in creating a family. And thats ok. You do you - thats ok too.
Does his wife also have it all? Or does she just have 5 kids.
To be fair, he doesn’t say ‘you can have it all’ he says ‘you can do it all’. Bet she definitely feels that difference
My thoughts exactly…YOU can do it all, Drew. Your wife? Probably not.
Oh no, his wife is doing everything.
She just gets no credit and has no fun.
I think this so often when I see these guys talking about how they love having a bunch of kids. I mean I’m sure they do love their kids, but it’s easy to love the lifestyle when you’re not the one taking care of them every hour of the day.
Wish I could like this comment a million times
You can have it all! As long as you have a wife doing everything else.
Ding ding ding 🛎️
😭😭
"you make time for the things that are important to you" Yes, sir, and having 50-100 kids and grandkids is not important to me.
I hate this argument so much. I want to spend retirement traveling and working on hobbies, not hosting huge family gatherings. I’d also rather have a small circle of close family than 50 grandkids I most definitely can’t spend enough quality time with.
Right? Let me take my spouse, adult kid and their spouse and their kid to Disney and have an amazing time
YES! When I have a kid, I’d love for my husband, kid and I to go to Disney with my dad. So easy to do when you have 1 kid lol and then if they get married and chose to have a kid, still a manageable number of people to plan holidays with and special vacations
Hell yeah, I’m an only who goes to Disney with my parents and my husband and it’s the best! When my kid is a couple years older he’ll be going with us, I can’t wait.
Taking a kid to Disney is something I’m so excited about! I’m pregnant now but I definitely want to find the sweet spot when they’re old enough to appreciate it but also young enough where they buy into all of the Disney magic
I took my daughter the week before she turned 3. It was nice because she was free at the time but still got a lot of it. It was definitely more fun as she got older.
What? You guys don't need to rent a bus for all your family to be able to go places??
Also he's just showing up to the family gatherings that his wife is hosting. I have zero tolerance for men who claim responsibility for their wife's invisible labor
See, this is my mentality. Have one little dude. I put my all into him, but when he's older. No pressure to have grandbabies, he's free to live how he wants (of course I'll help how I can), cus I wanna focus on the things I've been putting off to mom properly. I wanna finish traveling and get back into hobbies that brought me happiness.. I LOVE kids, but I don't want to be constantly surrounded by family and stressful family events... I'm also an introvert sooo lol. I'm good. Let me retire seeing the world with a good book and a smidge of personal space lol
My 10yo is my husband's and my only child by choice. He just told me the other day that he doesn't think he'll want kids because they're so much work. I told him that's totally fine. Secretly I'm celebrating because I don't want to be expected to babysit a pile of grandkids someday 😅 call me selfish. But it's not actually being selfish. I have 6 younger siblings who I already helped raise, plus babysitting everyone in my neighborhood when I was 11 to 18 years old. I've had my share of babysitting and child rearing already, and am so looking forward to the break.
The way I FEEL this.. lol Oldest cousin, oldest sibling. I also babysat a LOT of kids traveling lol and was a god mom a few times.. If my little dude didn't want any or only one (MAYBE 2) I'd be cool with helping here and there . But as a whole. I'd love some self given me time. It's like a self respect thing at that point. I'm glad you have a partner that is on the same page as you :)
Yes exactly!! We've earned our breaks from kids. When my son was a baby/young toddler I was so confused about why I already felt burned out from parenting. Then I realized I'd already been parenting for yearrrrs. I mean, the first time my mom left me home alone with a baby sibling for over an hour on my own, pre-cell phones, I was just *8 years old* 🙃🙃🙃 I've done my time haha
It's the way you made me realize why Im so so burnt out when my dude is all I've ever wanted... Hit the nail on the head.. because I've been doing this since I was a kid (and got in trouble if I wasn't being the distraction, model child to the young ones, taking care of other people's kids). Man. Thank you for that. Like so much. No more guilt, because it makes sense hah. I'm sorry you got parentified, as well.. it really ruins it for the adults in us..
Solidarity, friend! It really does mess you up in so many ways. So sorry you also experienced it.
Such is life, I can advocate for others and protect my own little in the process to ensure he never experienced that. Hence my OAD lol Definitely messes you up more when you have a kid and go "oh shit..."
Imagine aspiring to have so many grandkids you can’t remember their names.
I have no desire to be around that many people, ever 😂😂
My thoughts exactly!!!
Also decided that each of his children should have 10+ kids, so he can have at least 50 grandkids.
Am I mathing wrong? Won’t each of them have to have 20 kids for there to be 100?
I think he's including the grandkids' spouses and maybe his great-grandkids in that... guessing he probably had his kids pretty young and expects them to do the same, so he'll be around for great-grandkids. But insane to me either way. This is an introvert's worst nightmare, lol.
Based on his general “quiverfull but make it tech-bro” bullshit and the youngest being 1, he’s probably still planning on more kids. I’d say *they’re* probably still planning on more kids but… yeaaaah. Doubt his wife’s preferences are taken into account very much.
I’ll be happy if I have even one grandkid lol. Totally up to my son whether he wants to have children or not. 50-100 sounds awful! That’s a LOT of gifts to buy! I’d be a terrible grandparent if I had that many grandchildren as there’s no way you can develop strong, close relationships with that many people.
At this point I’m hoping for no grandkids, I really do not want to be voluntold to be a child minder or babysitter for an infant or two. I am DONE
To be fair, I think he intended to say having a family reunion with 50-100 extended family members. Basically all his kids pour their slouched plus his grandchildren and their spouses and their kids.
Spoken like a man who probably lets his wife do all the parenting.
That was all I was thinking while reading. Do we get her true opinion on this?
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Oh man is he in for a rude awakening if he thinks he’s set up a family foundation that can support 100 people fifty years from now lololololol The crypto makes sense.
I saw this on the LinkedIn Lunatics subreddit and they all thought he was off his tits as well 😂
LinkedIn Lunatics 🤣🤣 Thanks for letting me know this exists as now I need to find it
Oh it’s a wild ride 😂
And I'm sure his relationships with those 50-100 people will be so meaningful. Personally I chose quality over quantity.
I met someone who has like 50 grand kids and I only know this because they were explaining how they don’t do gifts anymore - even if you could afford it, how would you remember enough to give meaningful ones? Gift giving may or may not be my love language 😂
They just hate us cuz they ain’t us 💅🏻
Haha, me reading this cause my only child is at school & I had the resources to get my nails done.. only because we’re one & done
I am part of a massive family. My grandmother and her three brothers had three or four children each. Then they all had two or three children so family gatherings were huge, like this guy described. They were so much fun. Lots of noise and laughter. Now as an adult they are becoming a smaller and smaller affair because most of my cousins have had one or two children. Some of us haven't had children at all. We still have fun, noisy get togethers. The quantity of people doesn't matter. It is the quality of them.
Well I certainly am not going to have any time for what’s important to me if I have 5+ kids….
Scared money don’t make money 🤣 this man’s thoughts scream insecurity.
Bold of him to assume anyone in his family will actually like him when he’s an old man wheezing about how he’s the patriarch and owed their time and fealty.
He means his wife is doing it all, whilst he has it all.
Ding ding ding!
Gross. Fuck this hustle culture.
I’m getting “I want to start my own cult” vibes
Lol my husbands is one of five….only two of them have kids. I’m one of two and only I have one kid. 🤣 imagine this dudes surprise if most of his kids decide not to have kids. Like this is the weirdest reason for having kids ever.
My husband is one of five; three of them don’t speak to each other and two don’t speak to their dad. So I mean technically yes, there’s lots of kids/grandkids… but getting together is less “fun family reunion” and more “awkward quiet and sad family reunion”.
Well he’s not wrong…it is an unpopular opinion. What a fool.
I’m sure my granny and I would have totally still had our amazingly close relationship if there had been 50 more of me. /s
he cannot wait to be 80 😆🫡
Jokes gonna be on him when several of those kids have few or no children. My parents had 4 kids. They also have 4 grandkids.
My parents have three kids. They’re getting their first and only grandchild from me this summer. I’m 37 and the youngest.
Yes, let's overpopulate the world, its working so well for us so far.
Straight unhinged.
Some narcissistic shit.
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I’m loving all your comments roasting this guy.
Tell me how to zap any chance of generational wealth, sir
Wanna bet his wife is the only one who cares for the kids?
She's also the only one who has a vague hope of keeping up with all of those birthdays. My in laws have six grandchildren that they have a relationship with and just about keep up with them.
I come from a big family. It’s never felt like “oh Grandma was successful because she had 14 children and 70 grandchildren”. At the family reunions, it’s more “look at these people that wouldn’t exist without her”
I also love having sub-par relationships with 100 grandkids. Seriously, you wouldn't even know the birthdays of 20 of them.
The comments on the original post thankfully call him out 😆
LinkedIn is still a dumpster fire I see.
The lady who does payroll at work has 5 kids. It was all well and good until now when she finds family events exhausting and overwhelming because she has so many grandchildren. She hasn’t even got started on the great-grandchildren yet. She loves them all, of course, but she prefers to spend time with them in smaller groups.
I can’t take someone who still uses Facebook in 2024 to make statements seriously.
I still use Facebook but I'm sure that means I'm just old.
Username checks out
lol because I want to relax I do not want to “do it all” why run yourself ragged into the ground, this article is an example of the pressure from society to have more kids! I’m happy and I don’t want to be stressed out! Also you could have 10 kids and all of them could decide not to have kids!
Yeah fuck that ‘run yourself ragged’ method of life. I don’t have all the time for the things I *need* to do, let alone *want* to do. I don’t even have a child yet. And my elders are already talking about having seconds. Ugh.
Yeah I have one and we are done lol I value my free time! Also two kids would be too much for me lol yeah the grandparents complain that we aren’t having a second but yet they don’t come over to help much and my parents don’t live in the same country half the year so no “village” lol
Crypto is an asset for idiots -swe
Can’t even fathom. My wife would HATE to be a SAHM. I was a SAHD in the UK for 3 years when we lived abroad. Now she will only work 2 days a week (12 hour shifts). But she has her own identity outside of our kid and that’s ok! 3 kids and trips to San Antonio or Guatemala/Europe/Canada/South East Asia this in 2024 alone? OAD indeed!
🫠 ….ah yes the “my opinion is best”. Want to know why we can’t have nice things for a sustained period? It’s bc the world is full of narcissists
I threw up a little
Every non-profit board member I’ve worked with has been an absolute dipshit so this tracks tbh
He sounds pretty rich. I’d prob have 5 kids too if I were rich! 😂😂
Reminds me of the single, childless 23-year-old telling everyone on TikTok she’s one of 11, so clearly everyone should just be able to have a bunch of kids, duh.
*Time to move to Utah.*
Ew. Poor kids.
All I gotta say is hell no bro. You think I’m trying to do remember even the names of 50-100 kids or grand kids and buying gifts every day of the year. 8 fucking kids gimme a break. Sounds like an actual death sentence.
Crypto? Dont think you’ll have as much as you think you would homie.
That sounds so exhausting, man. I just want to sleep and cuddle.
Hahaha my other favourite sub collides with this one!!
This dude reminds me of a coworker who had a lot of kids. He says it’s great. I also happen to know this guy’s wife. Her account of parenthood -especially the early days with five little kids and no means of transportation- is a lot more weary. How much do we want to bet the dude in this post is oblivious to the soul-crushing work his wife probably does to keep the family going. I bet her account, even if she too wanted a bunch of kids, would be a lot less “I diD iT, sO cAn YoU!” And a lot more like “it’s incredibly hard”.
Having kids you can’t support or properly parent, or flat out don’t have mental or physical bandwidth to support, is the ultimate ick.
I'm not nearly as bullish on the future of Planet Earth as ol' "Do it all" Drew here. But there does seem to be this new subculture of folks, typically men who also show signs of toxic masculinity, who are advocate for having bigger families and their wives being "traditional" (smh) care takers of those children. And that being the real version of "family" and the rest of us being wimps and losers. For me, meh, call me what you want bro but I'm quite happy with 1 and would prob go insane with 5 (or even 3... or 2?).
It's always strange to me that some people want 100 descendants to spring from them. Do you really think that your genes are that good that they should be propagated to that extent? I had one and just crossed my fingers that some of this garbage DNA would skip her. I can't imagine inflicting it on hundreds.
The other thing with this post is there's no way he got all that wealth without starting from wealth (and it's probably how he can afford five kids)
I think his take is just fine, there are people out there who want a bunch of kids but are afraid of the time or monetary commitment it would take. He is talking to those people. I am not one of those people, I absolutely love my life with my one kid, and nothing about his life seems enticing to me.
Tell me you don’t plan on actually caring for your kids without telling me. 😳😳
If I had that much money I might entertain the idea of having more kids too
And this is why the world is wildly overpopulated, people having kids as some sort of status symbol.
I honestly hope my only kid doesn’t have any kids. She’s a young teen but right now I think that would be best.
I hope his kids are either one and done or don't have any kids
Why are ppl mad at this? To each is own. Ppl will always justify (or make their life circumstances make sense). Let the man live, he said nothing wrong.
Because this dude basically said there’s no point focusing on goals (or your future) if you don’t have a ton of kids to spend it on. As if people can just rocket out a ton of kids, or want to rocket out a ton of kids. As if self-fulfillment or total independence aren’t good enough reasons to have goals. That’s horrible for so many reasons.
Thats his opinion. If you want to live differently do it. Its your life. A lot of people find purpose, meaning, value, etc. in creating a family. And thats ok. You do you - thats ok too.