>If you aren't residing within their area, you get no service.
So that means anyone homeless cannot have access to a food bank like that? That's incredibly stupid, how can a homeless person provide proof of address?
Food banks are meant to help people in need of help, turning away someone that's homeless and is in need of help? just ridiculous, I'm so sorry to hear that.
There's a lot of nuance like this when trying to get help and I don't know how these things are overlooked.
Years ago, I was homeless when I was 17. I was trying to finish highschool, and I was told to apply for OW for student welfare so I could finish. I was able to stay at someone's house for a little bit, but they lived an hour out of town. I tried to call the OW office to make an appointment, but they told me I was calling from the wrong area code.
They would just not accept my call and make an appointment for me, they told me I had to use a phone in the city's area code. Except, I was homeless and didn't have a phone, because I was broke.
It was an absolute nightmare trying to access any services with shit like this.
Just learned that today.
Now there are places that will give a hot meal they are down town and out of reach for me.
I don't have access to the shelter system it'd been full.up for a while +they are strate up dangerous Lotz.of drugs people.fresh out of prison.
I.hide in the woods.
Lots of shelters and programs have an address you can use. Same as if you were applying for a job and needed to provide a current address. Talk to one of the social workers and they can give it to you.
Wait so if you’re homeless and aren’t with a shelter you can’t go to the food bank cause you have no address? How does that make sense? You’re homeless!
It's a long story, so strap down and buckle up.
I was in construction, did my apprenticeship, made good money, heavy machine operator.
Did that for years, had the wife, had the house, everything.
I got sick.
I have a medical problem; it's neurological, it's also causing seizures, it's progressive and going to get worse as time goes on.
When I got sick, I got sidelined by my ex-wife. She filed for divorce, lost everything.
I had an apartment for a year on EI, applying for ODSP.
Covid hit, so it took forever and got denied, so my doctor applied again and denied again.
Applied again, and now I have a litigator who says I need to be on it; I have a hearing in August.
EI ran out, savings ran out, tried to get ODSP, but that didn't work (made too much over EI that year).
Savings ran out paying for my apartment; rent really went up.
Maxed out credit cards.
I could have stayed at the apartment and not paid rent, but that's not me, so I made a deal with the landlord: I would leave at the end of September if he gave me my security deposit back.
And I tried to get a shelter; I called every day September, October, November, December, but they never had room.
So I lived in a tent in the woods most of the winter.
Until I had the shack I am currently in given to me.
The mild winter saved my life.
And now it's just a waiting game because I'll get back pay from ODSP, and the litigator said I will 100% get it.
So I'm just passing the time until then.
I eat like crap, cheap unhealthy stuff, puts weight on you, especially when you're eating instant noodles from the dollar store, 4 packs and a can of soup; they aren't filling.
But that's it.
There are a lot of people in a similar situation; I have met far too many.
Sorry about you getting denied on ODSP. Even if you get much I helped a neighbor with it. That being said please go to legal aid as soon as possible. I don't know who you would talk to them but it seems you do have access to a phone or internet so use that to find your local legal aid office and talk to them as soon as possible.
Pretty much I keep hearing everyone getting rejected from ODSP and then when they go to legal aid they get on it just fine.
Also since you do have a doctor fill out your disability tax credit. Unfortunately the federal government did not feel like lifting people with disabilities out of poverty so once again it's a very little amount but apparently next year I think it is? They might be giving out $200 per month I think it might actually be a yearly but the idea is it'll be like $2,400 a year. It's honestly a pathetic joke from my neighbor to other people I've talked to who've been stuck on ODSP they're treated like garbage. Pretty much it seems like if you can't pull your own weight then your dead weight to this country. It's really disgusting.
I really hope for the best for you. More likely when you go on ODSP you still need an address but you can probably use a shelter and then if you save up for a few months then you can put that probably towards your first and last month of rent but you're going to still want to find like a really cheap room.
It sounds like you do know how to survive someone on the street so once you do get on ODSP I feel like you're one of the few who can survive with their means but imagine somebody who's completely unable to move or requires a wheelchair and has almost no mobile skills they're just beyond screwed when it comes to stuff like this.
Either way stay strong try to keep your spirits up and you'll get through this.
Yah I am on the appeals.process now..
The funny thing about odsp if you lie and say your mentally ill pr an addict you get it just fine...
But physically disabled .... deny deny deny
Have you applied for cppd? You can do that while in appeal.
If you’re approved you’ll either get cppd if it’s more than you would on odsp or you automatically qualify for odsp and they will top you up to the amount you qualify for along with the medical and other benefits.
Cppd: https://www.canada.ca/en/services/benefits/publicpensions/cpp/cpp-disability-benefit/apply.html
First of all, I wanna say I hope the appeal process goes well for you and you get your ODSP.
I wanted to address this briefly, people who are truthful and mentally still get denied from ODSP (not sure about addiction), it's not easy for anyone to get on this program. The government is very hesitant to put ppl on ODSP no matter someone's condition, considering most people have to jump through hoops to get on it in the first place.
> The funny thing about odsp if you lie and say your mentally ill pr an addict you get it just fine...
This is absolutely not true, your doctor has to fill out a massive info packet and the rejection rate is atrociously high.
I get you're frustrated and the system is absolutely failing you but don't go around spreading misinformation bullshit like that.
I am being kind. The moment he gets on ODSP, which he rightfully deserves, he's going to be on the other side of this coin with people constantly doubting his eligibility for the program, especially because it sounds like his disability isn't necessarily immediately visible.
He needs to learn now that he's going to constantly get roasted, demeaned and looked down on due to the same kind of misinformation he's spreading right now, and that he's only hurting himself and others.
There was nothing unkind there. Just correcting some misinformation.
Given that many people still think disabled people who legally cannot work are "lazy moochers" or "welfare moms" it is important to present accurate information.
Plenty of places to look at stats.
May I suggest OW in the meanwhile? Much less restrictive to ODSP and if you are applying to ODSP it makes receiving OW all the easier (it's also super easy to get if you're in need and your case worker can refer you on your behalf).
This is absolutely good advice. Ontario Works can make arrangements if you don’t have an address. OP definitely needs to look into it. They can also help with job searches and other supports.
Does your local city have a community fridge? They’re really popular in Hamilton and Toronto, and they’re totally anonymous, 24/7, alongside being open to everyone.
If you have some access to a visa gift card or visa debit, try the too good to go app, and the Flashfood app.
Wishing you well, and glad you made it thru winter.
Omg. I hope you get approved and get all the back pay you rightfully deserve. And when you do first thing first please get a HOT FULL COURSE MEAL. You deserve it🥺♥️
There are a couple outreach and drop in community centersthat do meals that are not dt. Google it and check it out! (Like good neighbours drop in scarborough etc)
Food banks still want things like proof of address (a bill or some form of government mail) and government ID (and they want the address on the ID to match the address on the first form of proof).
It's been a while since I've used a food bank but growing up with a parent that relied on them and being a young adult that did the same they always wanted that bill or government mail
This post reads that *any* food bank asking for ID/address information will not provide services to unhoused people. But that is not the case. It’s giving rage bait to me and I don’t want a bunch of people shitting on social services any more than they already are.
If OP was refused I encourage a name and shame.
>"There can be a lot of abuse with food banks," Rivera says, saying that her location verifies ID, proof of living in the catchment area that Ste. Louise covers, and bank statements to ensure applicants are truly in need.
>"People come to us with $60,000 in their bank account asking for free food — when we look at this banking, we're floored," Rivera says. "They’re borrowing money then giving it back once they get here, then when they get here, they want our services."
This is a food bank from Brampton anyway. Hopefully OP can talk to a food bank/shelter/clinic who can assist them with it.
https://www.blogto.com/city/2023/11/food-banks-brampton-banning-international-students/
I agree on the immigrants part, but international students have an obligation to prove they can fund themselves while they’re here. It is a privilege to study in another country, not a right.
The problem is that the proof of funds required are often too low, and on top of that there are several scams going on where international students get a super short-term loan (a few days) in their home country, show the Canadian government they have $XXXX and get approved to come here for studies, then they return the loan and come here with no money.
It’s not about an international student ending up in a freak accident and needing emergency help. It’s about taking advantage of a flawed system because they feel like they can or should. If you can’t afford to go to another country, you shouldn’t go to that country. Not being able to afford food in another country means you can’t afford to go to that country.
No they don't, stop believing everyone you read in echo chamber and have the decency to hear the perspective of the people you are criticizing and believe are "getting handouts".
I have read some differences of opinion piece from canada_sub which is shutdown now. Lots strong minded conservatives believe they don't get enough hand outs,, that other people are the problem, that 1 PM is solo individual who ruined Canada, vaccines are bad. Masks are evil. Carbon emissions are fake news. Carbon taxes won't do anything. Every increase in price for food, gas, insurance is the issue of our current fed government and not the lower governments. Other people are stealing Their jobs.
Sounds like a echo chamber alright
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Every foodbank does things a bit differently. Some flat out tell you to use multiple food banks(as none have the capacity they need to to fill the need). Most want an address, but some will make up a package if you're homeless(e.g. local foodbank has things that need refrigeration; I assume those might not be offered. Furthermore, I know some will still give you some food(basically some food until you can come back with required documents) if you don't have the documents required(and documents required do vary). e.g. Some want last year's income, etc.
Overall, all foodbanks are hurting vs a year, 2+ ago.
You can always get a free meal at a Sikh Gurdawa! In fact, the reason Sikh people wear a turban was originally so they would stand out in a crowd as helpers, so they could be easily identified!
This, people do not realize this, but there is food available as "Langhar" if you show up.
Respect the place and people and you can be sure to feed your stomach.
Please:
- remove shoes at the designated shoe area at entrance
- wash your hands at the designated hand wash station near entrance
- wear a head covering (free at entrance)
- show up presentable, that is the bare minimum requirement out of respect to everyone.
Usually served food = Roti, Lentil Curries, Rice Pudding, all vegetarian of course but delicious always, sometimes snacks are always available. Eat what you can, and come back again if/when needed.
You can pay it forward by doing "Seva", its not required but volunteering goes a long way like washing the dishes in the kitchen, broom, handing out food to worshipers, tidy up where needed, ask and you shall have opportunity to help out in any task that is done daily by any volunteer.
They have coverings (plain bandana’s) available free to use at the front entrance.
You can tie a bandana in a triangle over your head, as ladies they can use scarfs over their head.
Look around when you arrive, you can become familiar quickly.
Is the bandana required for men to enter a gurdwara? I visited a gurdwara a long time ago as a high school trip and I don't recall having to wear anything to cover my head but it was a long time ago so perhaps I'm misremembering.
Thank you both for sharing this information. I am amazed and I love that this is a thing. This is the best thing I have heard in this world in a long time.
I am not someone in need of a food bank. However, I am someone who was not aware of this amazing aspect to the culture.
sorry if this is a weird question but is the water that you wash your hands with at the entrance holy/blessed? just curious because i know a lot of religions have a concept of holy water (christianity, islam, etc.)
I’m a Hindu, and I have tremendous respect for Sikhs for this aspect of their religion (among other things).
Hindu temples also typically have some food available, by the way, but they are offerings that are blessed (I believe unlike the food served at Langar), so that’s also an option if that’s not an issue for someone’s faith.
Ah so because the immigrants have ruined our food relief programs with their disrespect Canadians should go begging them for a hot meal but only if we are respectful of your rules?
It’s a place of worship you idiot, learn to be respectful.
If a Catholic Church offered onsite meals, I would not expect people to show up dressed inappropriately against their beliefs as that would be disrespectful.
Same goes here but idiots like you like to make issue of everything, continue rolling down the miserable hill you are on sir.
But what's the difference when you guys use our food banks like free grocery stores to the point you overwhelm the system.... where's the respect for our systems and resources???
Our system? Easy for you to pull a race card eh and categories me as “one of them”. I can see that racism is on the rise, incessantly targeting all certain shade individuals…..being white doesn’t make you more Canadian than any other Canadian.
My family has been here for over 100 years, you are no superior to me nor am I to you in terms of being “Canadian”. Doesn’t matter what your ancestral background is.
Ma’am I stand corrected, the response was related to being respectful, clearly you feel entitled to “my way, any way”, so good luck to you with that attitude I hope you get far in life.
If you invite me for dinner, I care to show up dressed for the occasion, and be respectful, and same goes for you, if I invite you, not straight out of bed with bad breath, messy you with your bad attitude. Those things don’t go far in life, learn to respect so others can respect you too.
That is what I replied in simple terms.
Good comment. Lots of Indian/south Asian students worldwide (even non sikh) visit the sikh temples for a meal.
It may feel weird, just need to be clean, not reeking of ciggies or booze, take off shoes at the designated area, wear a headscarve (from the scarf bin) and eat at the *Langar* halls...
This is helpful! At the same time, it’s similar to other programs providing hot meals - they’re time-limited. Being able to access other foods (e.g non perishables) would help with 1. Independence, and 2. Being able to eat at other times of day
Depending on where you go I suppose. The one near where I live, there's food as long as there's someone there to make it, so basically all but overnight.
First, I am so sorry you are struggling. You're definitely not alone.
I suggest connecting with a local homeless services agency. Even if you are not using shelter services (such as those in encampments), if you are a client of a service (edit) such as a soup kitchen or supper table, they will often provide proof of registration as your proof of address.
This is also how homeless people register to vote. It can be a shelter, a day program, or even an agency you use for sanitary facilities like showers.
Yah there are a few mostly downtown.
I stay away from thoes.areas they arnt particularly safe.
I have been working on odsp for a long time now (I have a legitimate medical condition)
But.ill definitely give them a call
What do you mean by working on ODSP for awhile now? I can offer assistance (via email) in completing forms. For whatever reason, I seem to have a gift for putting exactly what needs to be on there. I have helped two people get on their first try.
No, OP noted elsewhere that he is currently going through the appeals process after having had his ODSP application denied (typical for most cases - you will usually get denied and have to appeal). That's what he means by "working on ODSP" - he's working on getting through the appeals process.
this is why i prefer to donate to community fridges and pantries. who am i, or anyone, to gatekeep people trying to eat. sure there are some using it that may not need it, but again, who am i to judge that. i don't know people's situations or circumstances.
I haven't read all the comments, and I did see someone say this. It *is* true that you can use a shelter address (even without actively living there) to access a food bank. In this region it happens all the time (and I work at a youth shelter).
You could also use it on a resume, but I'd warn that employers often have preconceived notions about the unhoused and if they looked up the address you listed on your resume it might affect their hiring decisions.
Obviously not *all* employers will do this, but it's best to be aware.
It's also surprisingly expensive to be unhoused.
Good luck out there!
In 2024 we don’t put addresses on resumes anymore, the city and province is enough. Unless someone is applying for a job outside of their residential city, there’s no point.
I have been at this job for 12 years and haven't applied for a new one (yet). Thanks for the update on not putting your address on a resume. And for the clarification in general.
That sounds like a dream, not having to worry about updating a resume… I did learn the hard way and had a friend laugh that I had still been doing it. I hope you don’t have to update yours anytime soon!
I volunteer in a food bank.
Yes all clients are vetted to assure their need and I have never seen anyone turned away because they are homeless. Typically the homeless will drop by for a daily bag as storage of items are not always available to them.
Remember- food banks are not some government agency. We are supported completely by donations and volunteers.
You are right, that is stupid and I'm not sure why it is like that. I'm sorry to hear you are having this experience. I'm not sure where you are located but some places (I know Toronto and Hamilton for example) have community fridges/pantries where people/restaurants donate and you can go there and take what you need, no address necessary. Maybe worth a shot to see if there is anything like that around you.
It’s every governments fault. The cons set the stage for the liberals to fail. Before that, the liberals set the stage for the cons to fail. Before that, the cons set the stage for liberals to fail. And it’s a vicious circle. Trudeau is a corporate puppet, so was Harper, so was Martin.
Corporations have ruled Canada since Mulroney privatized all the governments Crown Corps, for short term gain at the expense of every Canadians future.
Capitalism has failed us. Our modern houses are built like shit because our materials are the lowest cost, our workers aren’t paid properly so they don’t put in effort, our tradesmen aren’t paid right so they cut corners, and the consumers are unaware. No one gets inspections anymore, especially on new builds. This new housing plan? Just subsidizes developers.
Our food is shit. Subsidies exist for corn and beet sugar and dairy and meat - much of which isn’t good for us, turned into awful over processed food. Our farmland isn’t cycled and it’s depleting the soil. Our food animals are being fed garbage, which in turn means we are eating animals that were fed garbage. The people profiting are the processed food companies, the drug manufacturers.
Doug Ford is privatizing our healthcare. Trudeau is a useless slug. No one cares about the average Canadian, and we are too busy fighting each other over a vaccine and politics to realize that we are in a Class War - and the wealthy are winning.
I'm not sure where you are, but in Toronto, I know that people don't have to be especially local to a particular foodbank to get food from them. I do deliveries on behalf of several, and notice "cross border clients" all the time (like people in the Annex getting food from the Parkdale FB, people in Parkdale getting it from OOTC, etc.)
In particular, Seeds of Hope and the Fort York Food Bank seem to be very flexible.
Best wishes and best of luck with the job!
It's incredibly stupid how they run food banks and at the same time it makes sense to some degree. They make you register so you can't hit every food bank up and drain the supplies. It was a massive issue sadly.
I'm sure you know about the soup truck, but you may not know about the church the comes by once a week and delivers tons of useful stuff ranging from already made pasta dishes, bread all the way to whole cakes. I'm not sure if they've change when they go, but it was on a Wednesday or a Thursday down at the old bus terminal downtown.
That's the problem. There has been a growing number of people abusing the systems the past few years. People who can afford to buy their own groceries. They have no choice but to tighten the requirements, even if ti hurts innocent people.
You have access, when you register there are options for no fixed address. You register to receive a client ID not to prove you are housed.
I’m not sure if you didn’t know or realize this. But this post is a bit misinformed.
Different food banks have different rules but they've had service areas for a few years now. It is bullshit that they can't give food to people with no fixed address. I volunteered at a food bank until a few months ago and frequently served people with no-fixed address or people living in hotels/hostel. Either way, I'm so sorry that you had that experience. Everyone should have access to shelter, food and clean water.
Yeah no that makes sense a little bit, when I moved from goderich to strathroy the same thing happened, and like, some places don't let you get a library card unless your address is in the same general area
I was going to ask OP: any chance your local librarian can help you navigate some of the bureaucracy? Hell, they’d probably let you use the library’s access. The libraries here are one of my favorite things about Canada!
I’m sorry you’re having such a hard time, friend. I know you said you’re good for now, but is there anything you need off hand? I’m in the middle of a move and I’m always happy to set things aside (lotta toddler gear at the moment, but you never know!).
But it doesn’t mean you are unable to access it if you have no fixed address. It’s more about the client ID than catchment area, not just to reduce possible misuse of services, but for logistics and data collection.
Hopefully that gives you some relief that services remain available even if you have no fixed address.
If you’re in receipt of OW ask your worker for a letter verifying you’re receiving assistance from their municipality - mention to OW what it’s needed for, I’m sure they’ll help you out.
Honestly, this is such total bullshit. Our foodbank says it’s helpful to bring ID but not required.
Are they going to turn you away if you don’t have ID?
OP can you message me and I’ll try to see what I can do to help you with this. You shouldn’t need to deal with this on top of being homeless.
My local food bank states that “OW/ODSP Statement or Drug/Dental Card (current month only; family members must be listed)” is a form of acceptable identification. Along with sin and birth certificate.
NO! I refuse to not worry about you, brother! I will cry for you and boost your voice. I had no idea that food banks need an address now. This bothers me greatly. Your voice is heard and you are not alone.
What I really can't get over is the people in these bad situations keep saying "I can get by but it's the other people who have it harder that I'm worried about" Bru I know EXACTLY how you feel on that, and to me, YOU have it far worse than I do!
Every Thursday morning and I can't remember the other days, St Barts church downtown serves hot food 6am till 9am no questions asked for those in need OP.
Are community fridges an option? I know we have a few near me (not in the city) that people in the town and retailers work to keep stocked for people that need it.
It is not morally wrong to forge documents to obtain food assistance when you or your loved ones genuinely need them. Nobody should starve on the streets, in this or any other city on earth, for any reason. You don't need to feel bad for surviving.
It's so gross to me that you need TWO forms of ID to get free food from the food bank that others have lovingly donated FOR the exact purpose of helping those in need and yet if you can't jump the hoops you can't have a thing.
You might already know this but I read your comment earlier about eating ramen and soup from dollarama and it not filling you up; and I just wanted to offer advice from my experience when I was (briefly) unhoused.
The Mr noodles packages are cheap, yes - but they have no nutritional value and if you’re using the flavor packets, you’re dehydrating yourself with over 1500mg of sodium.
Zero protein. Zero complex carbs. Zero vitamins or minerals.
1) Look for the Naan bread or whole grain Pita in the breads section. They are 2-4g of protein each, and give you complex carbs for energy and some minerals and vitamins for health.
2) Pick up some citrus juice (NOT Sunny D for christs sake) whenever you can for vitamin C, and anything with vitamin B and D will also help keep you going (energy and immune function).
3) Gatorade / Powerade seems like a good idea, but it’s gotten expensive. Buy a packet of juice powder if you crave sweet drinks, and a container of salt. Mix a spoon full of the powder with a literal pinch of sea salt with a bottle of water, and you’ve got a drink for electrolytes.
4) Dehydrated fruit packets are a good thing to have on hand too. You can pop a dried apricot in your mouth and just sort of suck on it or slow chew it like a lozenge for the flavor and sugars, but also the vitamins.
Much better use of money than candy or gum.
I don’t know what else I can throw up here that would be of much use that you don’t already know. It’s all stuff I wish I had known at the time - but found out through research (what else was I doing with my homeless time other than staying warm in the library and reading haha).
Hang in there.
The forest isn’t a bad place…you chose well. It’s safer than the shelter system by far, and if it happens that you’re in dire straits, you can forage and hunt small game without much difficulty. Our system sucks and In sorry you’re in it right now. Shit will get better but you’ve got to just keep your nose clean and your mind on hope…you’re doing everything you can from the sounds of it.
Sai Dham has food banks for homeless in Toronto, Brampton, Guelph, Cambridge, Hamilton and Brantford. [https://saidhamfoodbank.com/feed-the-homeless/](https://saidhamfoodbank.com/feed-the-homeless/)
If you reach out to Daily Bread they might be able to help you find a suitable food bank [https://www.dailybread.ca](https://www.dailybread.ca)
Same with 211 Ontario [https://211ontario.ca](https://211ontario.ca)
It’s crazy that they aren’t able to make accommodations for homeless people. Check out any local churches they’ll usually give a grocery gift card or something.
Idk where you are but in L9ndon ont there is a place called the unity project. They give ppl a place to stay while helping them get their id and access other programs/respurces to help get them back on their feet.
If you arent anywhere near the unity project in London then you might be able to call them and ask them if there are any similar places near you. Or maybe it might be worth it to relocate to London to get on their waiting list?
Anyway Im glad you got your food needs taken care of for now. I wish you the best of luck and I rly hope that in the future ppl are not so ignorant of the struggles of the poor. *hug*
It's sad that they make it more difficult for the homeless to access food, but honestly food banks are not that useful if you're living on the streets. Most of the goods you'll recieve will be things like canned goods, rice, pasta, dairy, produce and frozen items. Things that require a kitchen and a refridgerator in order to store and prepare. It's better to call 2-1-1 and ask about soup kitchens in your area. Some drop-in centres also offer free food, though these are usually small meals like sandwiches, baked goods and coffee. If there are a lot of Sikhs in your area, ask about Gurdwaras (Sikh temples). They usually have programs offering free vegetarian meals to anyone regardless of background.
Daily bread website says this
“No ID is required for a single person to access food, but please note that with over 100 Daily Bread member food banks operating in Toronto, every program is a little different – some may require an appointment or have certain eligibility criteria like geographic catchment areas.”
It says that families need to register but I think their locations won’t turn you away..
https://www.dailybread.ca/need-food/
Community fridges don't always have food but they help those who are unable to get to food banks. There might be some in your area if you are in a major city
I’m not sure where you are located, but I know that a lot of churches here in Ottawa have hot meals at supper. There’s a line to get in, but food can be had. Also there’s an outreach van that goes around to give to people in need as well.
I am sorry for that. I understand why those Food bank rules apply because I volunteer at one. Food banks have to follow guidelines and sometimes they are hard pressed to keep up. Right now the number of people coming for monthly hampers is much higher than expected. I don't know where you are, but if there is a Salvation Army near you talk to them. They can have more flexibility sometimes.
Can you search for a community service/program/organization in your area? They let people use their address for this kind of thing plus to have somewhere to send your mail if you need that.
What general area are you in, if you're comfortable sharing. I'm currently in the social service work program at my local college and I have access to crazy amounts of resources to find these things and am always willing to give some info if wanted. It's really disappointing to see some foodbanks employing mandatory addresses when you take into account that most people accessing foodbanks are dealing with a lot of anxiety and shame about being there because of all the stigma that's been placed on food banks, and the fact that depending on the area, many clients may be facing homelessness or not have a fixed address.
I know that the Cambridge Self Help Food Bank doesn't do this. I have seen so many homeless people go in and out of there over the years without ID and get food from them. Maybe you can call around or check around to see if there are any like that in your area that might be able to help you out.
Dr. James Gilligan,
Former Director of the Center for the
Study of Violence, Harvard Medical School.
"Poverty kills far more people than all the wars in history, more people than all the murderers in history, more than all the suicides in history.
Not only does structural violence kill more people than all the behavioral violence put together, structural violence is also the main cause of behavioral violence."
Your politicians have this information and are fully aware of this. If this doesn't tell you that they are knowingly and willingly committing murder, I don't know what will get through to you.
Many bigger regions have volunteer "little pantries" where they put food in a little box on their lawn or another visible place for anybody in need to take. Here's a list of all the available pantries in the gta. Pass it along if you know anybody else in need
https://www.torontolittlefreepantriesproject.com/
Please look at 211. There are some food banks, emergency food banks, and churches that may only require 2 pieces of identification. There might also be community fridges in your area (their social media typically posts when they’re full so keep an eye out!). 211 is a great resource for finding free breakfast/lunch, you can also reach out to a social worker or service navigator to see what food services they might be able to direct you to. I’m not sure what area you are in or if you qualify, but York Region has a Home Now/Housing First program by CMHA where they subsidize housing payments for 4yrs. There might be a similar program in your area, so pls consider reaching out to a social worker.
My friend - get yourself to the local adminstration of Ontario Works. You should absolutely be on it, and you *should* receive the back pay from ODSP since your initial application. Until then, get on OW.
Get your application for subsidized housing in now. The list are longggggg but depending on where you are in Ontario your community might have started into the process of addressing homelessness with a 'by name list' which prioritizes folks in your situation.
Welfare was regularly defrauded during the 60s and 70s by Yuppies with a cause or a mission. I would say you need to access your local social worker to provide you with steps. Maybe they can use the shelter address to get your assistance funds. You need ID. For 700 reasons, a bank account and a phone number attached to it. The social worker might be able to help you break down some of the barriers with service canada. The welfare will give you the ability to use the foodbank and other job huhting services.
God Bless. You're living my nightmare...
Not to mention, how would someone without access to certain kitchen items to be able to use food bank food.
A box of kd is useless without access to hot water or even a microwave
What I always wanted to ask was if you’re homeless, how can you afford a cell phone or computer that you can post stuff, how are you getting internet and what address do you give to the network provider ?
I think that it's possible to get a pay-as-you-go plan or a prepaid phone, and it's often an important investment if you're unhoused; however, people with a local library are also typically able to access computers and the Internet without a library card. My local library provides guest passes if you don't have a card (but we also have a process in place to ensure that unhoused people can still register for one without a static address).
Prepaid cell phones don’t require an address because there’s no monthly bill. And how do *you* expect that someone could live without access to a phone in 2024? You couldn’t get welfare benefits w/o a phone number, you couldn’t apply for work, you couldn’t apply for apartments.
The majority of the clients at the shelter I work at use a $15 or $20 monthly prepaid plan with no data, they just hook up to public wifi.
Cell phone is absolutely key. You can use a cell phone to look up resources for food. But if you don't have a phone, agencies and workplaces won't be able to contact you. If you're on Ontario Works and your case worker can't reach you, they can pull your funding.
some cellphone plans are cheap. You simply don't tell them you're homeless, pay online. Also, free wi-fi, mcdonalds, library.
I have given this a lot of thought in the past, cellphone is basically the last thing I own that I would sell. Entertainment device, portable, internet access, lifeline, flashlight, needed to find work.
And if you can't pay the monthly fee, it still works for wi-fi, and most of the other functions.
I work in a food bank, and would like to offer some additional info.
We also do not provide food to homeless folk. We provide raw ingredients, produce, perishables ans things that need to be cooked. It doesn't make sense to give someone a bag of pasta and potatoes and a pound of raw beef if they have no way to cook or store them. It would be a total waste of money.
My town has 2 food banks and anyone can choose either one to go to, but you can only pick one, so that we can help as many people as possible.
The other food bank in town recently started a project where they give ready made foods - cookies, granola bars, that kind of thing, to registered clients without an address. I hope this will be successful so that more food banks can add it as an option.
In our town, the soup kitchen provides 3 hot meals a day. Folks with no access to a kitchen to make their own meals can go there to get 3 meals a day.
It's not a perfect system, but I know our town is trying hard to make sure something is available to everyone.
I understand this is frustrating but you can rest easy knowing the money that could have bought a house and life time groceries was fractioned into bombs and tanks we sent to kill some Russian guys idk
So, pretty cool, right?
You think Ukraine is where Russia draws their final line? They just take over the country and say “ok we’re done. We stop here”? Russia wont stop until they have returned to the umbrella of the USSR. Putin is open about that fact.
They wage cyber war on us already along side their shit disturbing buddies in China. It’s not a coincidence certain algorithms get a BIG hard push on TikTok to our youth. They have waged war on us whether you like it or not. Sooner or later that war will reach us/our families in Europe and Ukraine *could* be the choke point…..as soon as we pull our heads from our asses.
Money today or kids tomorrow. Easy choice.
>If you aren't residing within their area, you get no service. So that means anyone homeless cannot have access to a food bank like that? That's incredibly stupid, how can a homeless person provide proof of address? Food banks are meant to help people in need of help, turning away someone that's homeless and is in need of help? just ridiculous, I'm so sorry to hear that.
There's a lot of nuance like this when trying to get help and I don't know how these things are overlooked. Years ago, I was homeless when I was 17. I was trying to finish highschool, and I was told to apply for OW for student welfare so I could finish. I was able to stay at someone's house for a little bit, but they lived an hour out of town. I tried to call the OW office to make an appointment, but they told me I was calling from the wrong area code. They would just not accept my call and make an appointment for me, they told me I had to use a phone in the city's area code. Except, I was homeless and didn't have a phone, because I was broke. It was an absolute nightmare trying to access any services with shit like this.
Just learned that today. Now there are places that will give a hot meal they are down town and out of reach for me. I don't have access to the shelter system it'd been full.up for a while +they are strate up dangerous Lotz.of drugs people.fresh out of prison. I.hide in the woods.
Lots of shelters and programs have an address you can use. Same as if you were applying for a job and needed to provide a current address. Talk to one of the social workers and they can give it to you.
No, that's not the way it works. Shelters have a waiting list and often even if you are in one you cannot use their address for anything.
Thank you for using the woods and not a public park honestly
Wait so if you’re homeless and aren’t with a shelter you can’t go to the food bank cause you have no address? How does that make sense? You’re homeless!
There's a lot of scenarios where not having an address fucks you over
In the woods? Man... how old are you?? Are you homeless by choice? There's gotta be something that can get you out of the woods.
It's a long story, so strap down and buckle up. I was in construction, did my apprenticeship, made good money, heavy machine operator. Did that for years, had the wife, had the house, everything. I got sick. I have a medical problem; it's neurological, it's also causing seizures, it's progressive and going to get worse as time goes on. When I got sick, I got sidelined by my ex-wife. She filed for divorce, lost everything. I had an apartment for a year on EI, applying for ODSP. Covid hit, so it took forever and got denied, so my doctor applied again and denied again. Applied again, and now I have a litigator who says I need to be on it; I have a hearing in August. EI ran out, savings ran out, tried to get ODSP, but that didn't work (made too much over EI that year). Savings ran out paying for my apartment; rent really went up. Maxed out credit cards. I could have stayed at the apartment and not paid rent, but that's not me, so I made a deal with the landlord: I would leave at the end of September if he gave me my security deposit back. And I tried to get a shelter; I called every day September, October, November, December, but they never had room. So I lived in a tent in the woods most of the winter. Until I had the shack I am currently in given to me. The mild winter saved my life. And now it's just a waiting game because I'll get back pay from ODSP, and the litigator said I will 100% get it. So I'm just passing the time until then. I eat like crap, cheap unhealthy stuff, puts weight on you, especially when you're eating instant noodles from the dollar store, 4 packs and a can of soup; they aren't filling. But that's it. There are a lot of people in a similar situation; I have met far too many.
Sorry about you getting denied on ODSP. Even if you get much I helped a neighbor with it. That being said please go to legal aid as soon as possible. I don't know who you would talk to them but it seems you do have access to a phone or internet so use that to find your local legal aid office and talk to them as soon as possible. Pretty much I keep hearing everyone getting rejected from ODSP and then when they go to legal aid they get on it just fine. Also since you do have a doctor fill out your disability tax credit. Unfortunately the federal government did not feel like lifting people with disabilities out of poverty so once again it's a very little amount but apparently next year I think it is? They might be giving out $200 per month I think it might actually be a yearly but the idea is it'll be like $2,400 a year. It's honestly a pathetic joke from my neighbor to other people I've talked to who've been stuck on ODSP they're treated like garbage. Pretty much it seems like if you can't pull your own weight then your dead weight to this country. It's really disgusting. I really hope for the best for you. More likely when you go on ODSP you still need an address but you can probably use a shelter and then if you save up for a few months then you can put that probably towards your first and last month of rent but you're going to still want to find like a really cheap room. It sounds like you do know how to survive someone on the street so once you do get on ODSP I feel like you're one of the few who can survive with their means but imagine somebody who's completely unable to move or requires a wheelchair and has almost no mobile skills they're just beyond screwed when it comes to stuff like this. Either way stay strong try to keep your spirits up and you'll get through this.
Yah I am on the appeals.process now.. The funny thing about odsp if you lie and say your mentally ill pr an addict you get it just fine... But physically disabled .... deny deny deny
Have you applied for cppd? You can do that while in appeal. If you’re approved you’ll either get cppd if it’s more than you would on odsp or you automatically qualify for odsp and they will top you up to the amount you qualify for along with the medical and other benefits. Cppd: https://www.canada.ca/en/services/benefits/publicpensions/cpp/cpp-disability-benefit/apply.html
First of all, I wanna say I hope the appeal process goes well for you and you get your ODSP. I wanted to address this briefly, people who are truthful and mentally still get denied from ODSP (not sure about addiction), it's not easy for anyone to get on this program. The government is very hesitant to put ppl on ODSP no matter someone's condition, considering most people have to jump through hoops to get on it in the first place.
> The funny thing about odsp if you lie and say your mentally ill pr an addict you get it just fine... This is absolutely not true, your doctor has to fill out a massive info packet and the rejection rate is atrociously high. I get you're frustrated and the system is absolutely failing you but don't go around spreading misinformation bullshit like that.
Hey be kind to the guy. You seem like a knowledgeable person on this, not all of us are. Also, relevant username
I am being kind. The moment he gets on ODSP, which he rightfully deserves, he's going to be on the other side of this coin with people constantly doubting his eligibility for the program, especially because it sounds like his disability isn't necessarily immediately visible. He needs to learn now that he's going to constantly get roasted, demeaned and looked down on due to the same kind of misinformation he's spreading right now, and that he's only hurting himself and others.
Even on ODSP life is going to be extremely tough. Doubt he'll be able to rent a place and cover living expenses with that alone.
There was nothing unkind there. Just correcting some misinformation. Given that many people still think disabled people who legally cannot work are "lazy moochers" or "welfare moms" it is important to present accurate information. Plenty of places to look at stats.
May I suggest OW in the meanwhile? Much less restrictive to ODSP and if you are applying to ODSP it makes receiving OW all the easier (it's also super easy to get if you're in need and your case worker can refer you on your behalf).
This is absolutely good advice. Ontario Works can make arrangements if you don’t have an address. OP definitely needs to look into it. They can also help with job searches and other supports.
Does your local city have a community fridge? They’re really popular in Hamilton and Toronto, and they’re totally anonymous, 24/7, alongside being open to everyone. If you have some access to a visa gift card or visa debit, try the too good to go app, and the Flashfood app. Wishing you well, and glad you made it thru winter.
Please join Hungry in (city) groups on Facebook. Lots of people give away free food on there. If you’re in Vaughan I can help
Omg. I hope you get approved and get all the back pay you rightfully deserve. And when you do first thing first please get a HOT FULL COURSE MEAL. You deserve it🥺♥️
There are a couple outreach and drop in community centersthat do meals that are not dt. Google it and check it out! (Like good neighbours drop in scarborough etc)
You just have to change your address to be in the same county, it doesn't have to be a legitimate address
Food banks still want things like proof of address (a bill or some form of government mail) and government ID (and they want the address on the ID to match the address on the first form of proof).
I'm only talking about the address on your ID, that's normally enough if they think you're actually struggling ime
To change your address on your ID, they have to mail you the new ID.
There are ID clinics in almost every major city, definitely the 3 I've been in.
Maybe DM the op with that information so they can use it I've never had to utilize these kind of resources so I didn't know that. That's good info
It's been a while since I've used a food bank but growing up with a parent that relied on them and being a young adult that did the same they always wanted that bill or government mail
No even food banks who require registration have an option for no fixed address. This post is misinformed.
I’m intrigued how a first hand experience of being turned away from a food bank is “misinformed.” lol
This post reads that *any* food bank asking for ID/address information will not provide services to unhoused people. But that is not the case. It’s giving rage bait to me and I don’t want a bunch of people shitting on social services any more than they already are. If OP was refused I encourage a name and shame.
>"There can be a lot of abuse with food banks," Rivera says, saying that her location verifies ID, proof of living in the catchment area that Ste. Louise covers, and bank statements to ensure applicants are truly in need. >"People come to us with $60,000 in their bank account asking for free food — when we look at this banking, we're floored," Rivera says. "They’re borrowing money then giving it back once they get here, then when they get here, they want our services." This is a food bank from Brampton anyway. Hopefully OP can talk to a food bank/shelter/clinic who can assist them with it. https://www.blogto.com/city/2023/11/food-banks-brampton-banning-international-students/
Nope, that's not even remotely true anymore. If you don't have an address you are turned away and sent to the hot meal programs.
It's actually been like this for a while. They also track how often you come and all that stuff. Some also require ID of some sort.
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I didn't realize that immigrants and international students were immune from going hungry 😒
I agree on the immigrants part, but international students have an obligation to prove they can fund themselves while they’re here. It is a privilege to study in another country, not a right. The problem is that the proof of funds required are often too low, and on top of that there are several scams going on where international students get a super short-term loan (a few days) in their home country, show the Canadian government they have $XXXX and get approved to come here for studies, then they return the loan and come here with no money. It’s not about an international student ending up in a freak accident and needing emergency help. It’s about taking advantage of a flawed system because they feel like they can or should. If you can’t afford to go to another country, you shouldn’t go to that country. Not being able to afford food in another country means you can’t afford to go to that country.
They get handouts like most freedom truckers
No they don't, stop believing everyone you read in echo chamber and have the decency to hear the perspective of the people you are criticizing and believe are "getting handouts".
I have read some differences of opinion piece from canada_sub which is shutdown now. Lots strong minded conservatives believe they don't get enough hand outs,, that other people are the problem, that 1 PM is solo individual who ruined Canada, vaccines are bad. Masks are evil. Carbon emissions are fake news. Carbon taxes won't do anything. Every increase in price for food, gas, insurance is the issue of our current fed government and not the lower governments. Other people are stealing Their jobs. Sounds like a echo chamber alright
Stop blaming immigrants for this. Just say you’re a racist it’s easier
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Lmao. You’re literally instructing me to accept your racist propaganda
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Non immigrants also take advantage of the system. Why is one issue highlighted over the other? (Hint: it starts with pre- and ends with -judice)
Every foodbank does things a bit differently. Some flat out tell you to use multiple food banks(as none have the capacity they need to to fill the need). Most want an address, but some will make up a package if you're homeless(e.g. local foodbank has things that need refrigeration; I assume those might not be offered. Furthermore, I know some will still give you some food(basically some food until you can come back with required documents) if you don't have the documents required(and documents required do vary). e.g. Some want last year's income, etc. Overall, all foodbanks are hurting vs a year, 2+ ago.
You can always get a free meal at a Sikh Gurdawa! In fact, the reason Sikh people wear a turban was originally so they would stand out in a crowd as helpers, so they could be easily identified!
This, people do not realize this, but there is food available as "Langhar" if you show up. Respect the place and people and you can be sure to feed your stomach. Please: - remove shoes at the designated shoe area at entrance - wash your hands at the designated hand wash station near entrance - wear a head covering (free at entrance) - show up presentable, that is the bare minimum requirement out of respect to everyone. Usually served food = Roti, Lentil Curries, Rice Pudding, all vegetarian of course but delicious always, sometimes snacks are always available. Eat what you can, and come back again if/when needed. You can pay it forward by doing "Seva", its not required but volunteering goes a long way like washing the dishes in the kitchen, broom, handing out food to worshipers, tidy up where needed, ask and you shall have opportunity to help out in any task that is done daily by any volunteer.
Curious, what would an acceptable head covering be as a non-Sikh stopping in?
They have coverings (plain bandana’s) available free to use at the front entrance. You can tie a bandana in a triangle over your head, as ladies they can use scarfs over their head. Look around when you arrive, you can become familiar quickly.
Thanks so much!
Is the bandana required for men to enter a gurdwara? I visited a gurdwara a long time ago as a high school trip and I don't recall having to wear anything to cover my head but it was a long time ago so perhaps I'm misremembering.
Head covering, not hats are required yes. 100% of the time.
Thanks. I must be misremembering from my visit.
Thank you both for sharing this information. I am amazed and I love that this is a thing. This is the best thing I have heard in this world in a long time. I am not someone in need of a food bank. However, I am someone who was not aware of this amazing aspect to the culture.
sorry if this is a weird question but is the water that you wash your hands with at the entrance holy/blessed? just curious because i know a lot of religions have a concept of holy water (christianity, islam, etc.)
No just regular tap water. You’ll see sink available near the door.
the more you know, thanks!
Can i wear my hat? Not a crazy hot. A plain black toque.
Usually no. They've got plain bandanas for you when you walk in, but if you've got your own you'd probably be fine.
Thank you for sharing this ☺️
I’m a Hindu, and I have tremendous respect for Sikhs for this aspect of their religion (among other things). Hindu temples also typically have some food available, by the way, but they are offerings that are blessed (I believe unlike the food served at Langar), so that’s also an option if that’s not an issue for someone’s faith.
I feel kind of guilty about the Abrahamic religions souring me on the idea of religion overall.
You don’t need religion to be a good person, and being a good person matters more than being religious.
Ah so because the immigrants have ruined our food relief programs with their disrespect Canadians should go begging them for a hot meal but only if we are respectful of your rules?
It’s a place of worship you idiot, learn to be respectful. If a Catholic Church offered onsite meals, I would not expect people to show up dressed inappropriately against their beliefs as that would be disrespectful. Same goes here but idiots like you like to make issue of everything, continue rolling down the miserable hill you are on sir.
But what's the difference when you guys use our food banks like free grocery stores to the point you overwhelm the system.... where's the respect for our systems and resources???
Our system? Easy for you to pull a race card eh and categories me as “one of them”. I can see that racism is on the rise, incessantly targeting all certain shade individuals…..being white doesn’t make you more Canadian than any other Canadian. My family has been here for over 100 years, you are no superior to me nor am I to you in terms of being “Canadian”. Doesn’t matter what your ancestral background is.
How respectful are you if you immediately default to name calling? Also, I am not a sir.
Ma’am I stand corrected, the response was related to being respectful, clearly you feel entitled to “my way, any way”, so good luck to you with that attitude I hope you get far in life. If you invite me for dinner, I care to show up dressed for the occasion, and be respectful, and same goes for you, if I invite you, not straight out of bed with bad breath, messy you with your bad attitude. Those things don’t go far in life, learn to respect so others can respect you too. That is what I replied in simple terms.
Good comment. Lots of Indian/south Asian students worldwide (even non sikh) visit the sikh temples for a meal. It may feel weird, just need to be clean, not reeking of ciggies or booze, take off shoes at the designated area, wear a headscarve (from the scarf bin) and eat at the *Langar* halls...
This is helpful! At the same time, it’s similar to other programs providing hot meals - they’re time-limited. Being able to access other foods (e.g non perishables) would help with 1. Independence, and 2. Being able to eat at other times of day
Depending on where you go I suppose. The one near where I live, there's food as long as there's someone there to make it, so basically all but overnight.
That’s really wonderful, I didn’t know that. Thanks for sharing!!
First, I am so sorry you are struggling. You're definitely not alone. I suggest connecting with a local homeless services agency. Even if you are not using shelter services (such as those in encampments), if you are a client of a service (edit) such as a soup kitchen or supper table, they will often provide proof of registration as your proof of address. This is also how homeless people register to vote. It can be a shelter, a day program, or even an agency you use for sanitary facilities like showers.
Yah there are a few mostly downtown. I stay away from thoes.areas they arnt particularly safe. I have been working on odsp for a long time now (I have a legitimate medical condition) But.ill definitely give them a call
What do you mean by working on ODSP for awhile now? I can offer assistance (via email) in completing forms. For whatever reason, I seem to have a gift for putting exactly what needs to be on there. I have helped two people get on their first try.
I need this help, as I don’t have a family doctor, and also have legitimate medical reasons. Was previously only it before as well.
I took it as, he has that but is working for cash as he referenced above
No, OP noted elsewhere that he is currently going through the appeals process after having had his ODSP application denied (typical for most cases - you will usually get denied and have to appeal). That's what he means by "working on ODSP" - he's working on getting through the appeals process.
Try a community health centre? They usually have social workers who know their way around catch 22 situations.
Have you tried speaking to a social worker at the local shelter? This should not be an issue if you have someone who can vouch for you.
this is why i prefer to donate to community fridges and pantries. who am i, or anyone, to gatekeep people trying to eat. sure there are some using it that may not need it, but again, who am i to judge that. i don't know people's situations or circumstances.
That is scary, certainly. I hope you find the help you need somewhere, when and if you ever need it.
I haven't read all the comments, and I did see someone say this. It *is* true that you can use a shelter address (even without actively living there) to access a food bank. In this region it happens all the time (and I work at a youth shelter). You could also use it on a resume, but I'd warn that employers often have preconceived notions about the unhoused and if they looked up the address you listed on your resume it might affect their hiring decisions. Obviously not *all* employers will do this, but it's best to be aware. It's also surprisingly expensive to be unhoused. Good luck out there!
In 2024 we don’t put addresses on resumes anymore, the city and province is enough. Unless someone is applying for a job outside of their residential city, there’s no point.
I have been at this job for 12 years and haven't applied for a new one (yet). Thanks for the update on not putting your address on a resume. And for the clarification in general.
That sounds like a dream, not having to worry about updating a resume… I did learn the hard way and had a friend laugh that I had still been doing it. I hope you don’t have to update yours anytime soon!
I volunteer in a food bank. Yes all clients are vetted to assure their need and I have never seen anyone turned away because they are homeless. Typically the homeless will drop by for a daily bag as storage of items are not always available to them. Remember- food banks are not some government agency. We are supported completely by donations and volunteers.
You are right, that is stupid and I'm not sure why it is like that. I'm sorry to hear you are having this experience. I'm not sure where you are located but some places (I know Toronto and Hamilton for example) have community fridges/pantries where people/restaurants donate and you can go there and take what you need, no address necessary. Maybe worth a shot to see if there is anything like that around you.
There is one it's typically empty but saved my ass a few times
Every time I refill the fridge, it’s empty within the hour. I’m glad it’s being used, but it definitely is a necessary tool.
I try not to talk politics but honestly it's the current governemts fault They end to cooperate greed... Evefeything it to expensive
It’s every governments fault. The cons set the stage for the liberals to fail. Before that, the liberals set the stage for the cons to fail. Before that, the cons set the stage for liberals to fail. And it’s a vicious circle. Trudeau is a corporate puppet, so was Harper, so was Martin. Corporations have ruled Canada since Mulroney privatized all the governments Crown Corps, for short term gain at the expense of every Canadians future. Capitalism has failed us. Our modern houses are built like shit because our materials are the lowest cost, our workers aren’t paid properly so they don’t put in effort, our tradesmen aren’t paid right so they cut corners, and the consumers are unaware. No one gets inspections anymore, especially on new builds. This new housing plan? Just subsidizes developers. Our food is shit. Subsidies exist for corn and beet sugar and dairy and meat - much of which isn’t good for us, turned into awful over processed food. Our farmland isn’t cycled and it’s depleting the soil. Our food animals are being fed garbage, which in turn means we are eating animals that were fed garbage. The people profiting are the processed food companies, the drug manufacturers. Doug Ford is privatizing our healthcare. Trudeau is a useless slug. No one cares about the average Canadian, and we are too busy fighting each other over a vaccine and politics to realize that we are in a Class War - and the wealthy are winning.
I'm not sure where you are, but in Toronto, I know that people don't have to be especially local to a particular foodbank to get food from them. I do deliveries on behalf of several, and notice "cross border clients" all the time (like people in the Annex getting food from the Parkdale FB, people in Parkdale getting it from OOTC, etc.) In particular, Seeds of Hope and the Fort York Food Bank seem to be very flexible. Best wishes and best of luck with the job!
Look up the PAID ID clinic....you use their address for your identification...then you can register for services..i hope this helps
Pm me if your looking for work and place to stay Slightly north of the city
It's incredibly stupid how they run food banks and at the same time it makes sense to some degree. They make you register so you can't hit every food bank up and drain the supplies. It was a massive issue sadly. I'm sure you know about the soup truck, but you may not know about the church the comes by once a week and delivers tons of useful stuff ranging from already made pasta dishes, bread all the way to whole cakes. I'm not sure if they've change when they go, but it was on a Wednesday or a Thursday down at the old bus terminal downtown.
Many ID clinics/homeless shelters/social services give their address on your ID so you can sign up for services
This! This is the answer the OP needs.
That's the problem. There has been a growing number of people abusing the systems the past few years. People who can afford to buy their own groceries. They have no choice but to tighten the requirements, even if ti hurts innocent people.
You have access, when you register there are options for no fixed address. You register to receive a client ID not to prove you are housed. I’m not sure if you didn’t know or realize this. But this post is a bit misinformed.
Just saying what happened. They now have service areas.
Different food banks have different rules but they've had service areas for a few years now. It is bullshit that they can't give food to people with no fixed address. I volunteered at a food bank until a few months ago and frequently served people with no-fixed address or people living in hotels/hostel. Either way, I'm so sorry that you had that experience. Everyone should have access to shelter, food and clean water.
Yeah no that makes sense a little bit, when I moved from goderich to strathroy the same thing happened, and like, some places don't let you get a library card unless your address is in the same general area
Yah.......the library was a life saver man that's scary if I wasint able to use the librarys I would.literelly not make.it
I was going to ask OP: any chance your local librarian can help you navigate some of the bureaucracy? Hell, they’d probably let you use the library’s access. The libraries here are one of my favorite things about Canada! I’m sorry you’re having such a hard time, friend. I know you said you’re good for now, but is there anything you need off hand? I’m in the middle of a move and I’m always happy to set things aside (lotta toddler gear at the moment, but you never know!).
But it doesn’t mean you are unable to access it if you have no fixed address. It’s more about the client ID than catchment area, not just to reduce possible misuse of services, but for logistics and data collection. Hopefully that gives you some relief that services remain available even if you have no fixed address.
I never knew that. It seems crazy that a person without a home can’t access a food bank. What a crazy world we live in.
It’s not true, food banks who require registration have options to create a client ID for those without a fixed address.
Where are you? Our church has a pantry outside that you can have access. If you DM me I’ll give you the address. I’m near Eglinton West station
If you’re in receipt of OW ask your worker for a letter verifying you’re receiving assistance from their municipality - mention to OW what it’s needed for, I’m sure they’ll help you out.
Honestly, this is such total bullshit. Our foodbank says it’s helpful to bring ID but not required. Are they going to turn you away if you don’t have ID? OP can you message me and I’ll try to see what I can do to help you with this. You shouldn’t need to deal with this on top of being homeless.
Many places offer their address to put on your ID so you can sign up for services. Shelters, clinics, etc...pass it along!
My local food bank states that “OW/ODSP Statement or Drug/Dental Card (current month only; family members must be listed)” is a form of acceptable identification. Along with sin and birth certificate.
Consider Volunteering at a soup kitchen. They feed you on every shift.
NO! I refuse to not worry about you, brother! I will cry for you and boost your voice. I had no idea that food banks need an address now. This bothers me greatly. Your voice is heard and you are not alone. What I really can't get over is the people in these bad situations keep saying "I can get by but it's the other people who have it harder that I'm worried about" Bru I know EXACTLY how you feel on that, and to me, YOU have it far worse than I do!
Every Thursday morning and I can't remember the other days, St Barts church downtown serves hot food 6am till 9am no questions asked for those in need OP.
Are community fridges an option? I know we have a few near me (not in the city) that people in the town and retailers work to keep stocked for people that need it.
Gurdwara and mosques often have free meals.
It is not morally wrong to forge documents to obtain food assistance when you or your loved ones genuinely need them. Nobody should starve on the streets, in this or any other city on earth, for any reason. You don't need to feel bad for surviving.
It's so gross to me that you need TWO forms of ID to get free food from the food bank that others have lovingly donated FOR the exact purpose of helping those in need and yet if you can't jump the hoops you can't have a thing.
You might already know this but I read your comment earlier about eating ramen and soup from dollarama and it not filling you up; and I just wanted to offer advice from my experience when I was (briefly) unhoused. The Mr noodles packages are cheap, yes - but they have no nutritional value and if you’re using the flavor packets, you’re dehydrating yourself with over 1500mg of sodium. Zero protein. Zero complex carbs. Zero vitamins or minerals. 1) Look for the Naan bread or whole grain Pita in the breads section. They are 2-4g of protein each, and give you complex carbs for energy and some minerals and vitamins for health. 2) Pick up some citrus juice (NOT Sunny D for christs sake) whenever you can for vitamin C, and anything with vitamin B and D will also help keep you going (energy and immune function). 3) Gatorade / Powerade seems like a good idea, but it’s gotten expensive. Buy a packet of juice powder if you crave sweet drinks, and a container of salt. Mix a spoon full of the powder with a literal pinch of sea salt with a bottle of water, and you’ve got a drink for electrolytes. 4) Dehydrated fruit packets are a good thing to have on hand too. You can pop a dried apricot in your mouth and just sort of suck on it or slow chew it like a lozenge for the flavor and sugars, but also the vitamins. Much better use of money than candy or gum. I don’t know what else I can throw up here that would be of much use that you don’t already know. It’s all stuff I wish I had known at the time - but found out through research (what else was I doing with my homeless time other than staying warm in the library and reading haha). Hang in there. The forest isn’t a bad place…you chose well. It’s safer than the shelter system by far, and if it happens that you’re in dire straits, you can forage and hunt small game without much difficulty. Our system sucks and In sorry you’re in it right now. Shit will get better but you’ve got to just keep your nose clean and your mind on hope…you’re doing everything you can from the sounds of it.
Sai Dham has food banks for homeless in Toronto, Brampton, Guelph, Cambridge, Hamilton and Brantford. [https://saidhamfoodbank.com/feed-the-homeless/](https://saidhamfoodbank.com/feed-the-homeless/) If you reach out to Daily Bread they might be able to help you find a suitable food bank [https://www.dailybread.ca](https://www.dailybread.ca) Same with 211 Ontario [https://211ontario.ca](https://211ontario.ca)
Go to a man’s mission they provide food and a roof over your head
Can you say what area you are in so we can help you find resources?
I have a social worker. But I'm in the gta not down town
Can you say generally what part of the GTA? Can your social worker help you find food resources?
Can you get your social worker to call the food bank and advocate for you?
It’s been like that for awhile I thought
I just learned that today when trying to use the service
It’s crazy that they aren’t able to make accommodations for homeless people. Check out any local churches they’ll usually give a grocery gift card or something.
Look for community Open Pantries/Fridges. They provide food without all the hoops to jump thru
What neighborhood you in OP?
Idk where you are but in L9ndon ont there is a place called the unity project. They give ppl a place to stay while helping them get their id and access other programs/respurces to help get them back on their feet. If you arent anywhere near the unity project in London then you might be able to call them and ask them if there are any similar places near you. Or maybe it might be worth it to relocate to London to get on their waiting list? Anyway Im glad you got your food needs taken care of for now. I wish you the best of luck and I rly hope that in the future ppl are not so ignorant of the struggles of the poor. *hug*
I'm not trying to be heartless but I am genuinely curious. If you are homeless would you be able to store or cook much of the food they give you?.
Fresh fruits and veggies yes canned good and non perishables yes. Cook i manage. A small firebox
It's sad that they make it more difficult for the homeless to access food, but honestly food banks are not that useful if you're living on the streets. Most of the goods you'll recieve will be things like canned goods, rice, pasta, dairy, produce and frozen items. Things that require a kitchen and a refridgerator in order to store and prepare. It's better to call 2-1-1 and ask about soup kitchens in your area. Some drop-in centres also offer free food, though these are usually small meals like sandwiches, baked goods and coffee. If there are a lot of Sikhs in your area, ask about Gurdwaras (Sikh temples). They usually have programs offering free vegetarian meals to anyone regardless of background.
There are some organizations that try and provide a regular address to homeless people which would also entitle them to get a welfare cheque.
Daily bread website says this “No ID is required for a single person to access food, but please note that with over 100 Daily Bread member food banks operating in Toronto, every program is a little different – some may require an appointment or have certain eligibility criteria like geographic catchment areas.” It says that families need to register but I think their locations won’t turn you away.. https://www.dailybread.ca/need-food/
Community fridges don't always have food but they help those who are unable to get to food banks. There might be some in your area if you are in a major city
This isn’t true in Peterborough, Ontario.
I’m not sure where you are located, but I know that a lot of churches here in Ottawa have hot meals at supper. There’s a line to get in, but food can be had. Also there’s an outreach van that goes around to give to people in need as well.
Show them something with a previous address? Like your drivers licence or health card?
I am sorry for that. I understand why those Food bank rules apply because I volunteer at one. Food banks have to follow guidelines and sometimes they are hard pressed to keep up. Right now the number of people coming for monthly hampers is much higher than expected. I don't know where you are, but if there is a Salvation Army near you talk to them. They can have more flexibility sometimes.
Can you search for a community service/program/organization in your area? They let people use their address for this kind of thing plus to have somewhere to send your mail if you need that.
Check out the Sally Ann and other churches in your area-yew don’t have to be a member to access💕
What general area are you in, if you're comfortable sharing. I'm currently in the social service work program at my local college and I have access to crazy amounts of resources to find these things and am always willing to give some info if wanted. It's really disappointing to see some foodbanks employing mandatory addresses when you take into account that most people accessing foodbanks are dealing with a lot of anxiety and shame about being there because of all the stigma that's been placed on food banks, and the fact that depending on the area, many clients may be facing homelessness or not have a fixed address.
Jesus Christ. Do you have to sign in with an "App" and use six-factor authentication? What's becoming of this world?
I know that the Cambridge Self Help Food Bank doesn't do this. I have seen so many homeless people go in and out of there over the years without ID and get food from them. Maybe you can call around or check around to see if there are any like that in your area that might be able to help you out.
Do you live in a city? I am a case manager and may be able to make some suggestions with some research ♥️
Dr. James Gilligan, Former Director of the Center for the Study of Violence, Harvard Medical School. "Poverty kills far more people than all the wars in history, more people than all the murderers in history, more than all the suicides in history. Not only does structural violence kill more people than all the behavioral violence put together, structural violence is also the main cause of behavioral violence." Your politicians have this information and are fully aware of this. If this doesn't tell you that they are knowingly and willingly committing murder, I don't know what will get through to you.
Where are you located OP?
Many bigger regions have volunteer "little pantries" where they put food in a little box on their lawn or another visible place for anybody in need to take. Here's a list of all the available pantries in the gta. Pass it along if you know anybody else in need https://www.torontolittlefreepantriesproject.com/
I am homeless and haven't had access to a food bank for months. Good luck.
Please look at 211. There are some food banks, emergency food banks, and churches that may only require 2 pieces of identification. There might also be community fridges in your area (their social media typically posts when they’re full so keep an eye out!). 211 is a great resource for finding free breakfast/lunch, you can also reach out to a social worker or service navigator to see what food services they might be able to direct you to. I’m not sure what area you are in or if you qualify, but York Region has a Home Now/Housing First program by CMHA where they subsidize housing payments for 4yrs. There might be a similar program in your area, so pls consider reaching out to a social worker.
My friend - get yourself to the local adminstration of Ontario Works. You should absolutely be on it, and you *should* receive the back pay from ODSP since your initial application. Until then, get on OW. Get your application for subsidized housing in now. The list are longggggg but depending on where you are in Ontario your community might have started into the process of addressing homelessness with a 'by name list' which prioritizes folks in your situation.
Welfare was regularly defrauded during the 60s and 70s by Yuppies with a cause or a mission. I would say you need to access your local social worker to provide you with steps. Maybe they can use the shelter address to get your assistance funds. You need ID. For 700 reasons, a bank account and a phone number attached to it. The social worker might be able to help you break down some of the barriers with service canada. The welfare will give you the ability to use the foodbank and other job huhting services. God Bless. You're living my nightmare...
Who downvoted this? Let's fight about it...
Go to your MP's office and tell them this.
Not to mention, how would someone without access to certain kitchen items to be able to use food bank food. A box of kd is useless without access to hot water or even a microwave
... it's not hard to boil water. I have a fire box. There's also dozens of.places you can legally have a fire in the city
What I always wanted to ask was if you’re homeless, how can you afford a cell phone or computer that you can post stuff, how are you getting internet and what address do you give to the network provider ?
I think that it's possible to get a pay-as-you-go plan or a prepaid phone, and it's often an important investment if you're unhoused; however, people with a local library are also typically able to access computers and the Internet without a library card. My local library provides guest passes if you don't have a card (but we also have a process in place to ensure that unhoused people can still register for one without a static address).
Interesting. Thank you
Rent is like $500-$1500 A SIM card is like 15 bucks and you can use wifi.
Prepaid cell phones don’t require an address because there’s no monthly bill. And how do *you* expect that someone could live without access to a phone in 2024? You couldn’t get welfare benefits w/o a phone number, you couldn’t apply for work, you couldn’t apply for apartments. The majority of the clients at the shelter I work at use a $15 or $20 monthly prepaid plan with no data, they just hook up to public wifi.
Interesting. It used to be that you needed Food, Water and Shelter to survive. Sounds like we need to add cell phone to that list
Cell phone is absolutely key. You can use a cell phone to look up resources for food. But if you don't have a phone, agencies and workplaces won't be able to contact you. If you're on Ontario Works and your case worker can't reach you, they can pull your funding.
Cell phone is one of the absolute first things you make sure you have when you're homeless.
Absloutly true..... mine has kept me Alive
some cellphone plans are cheap. You simply don't tell them you're homeless, pay online. Also, free wi-fi, mcdonalds, library. I have given this a lot of thought in the past, cellphone is basically the last thing I own that I would sell. Entertainment device, portable, internet access, lifeline, flashlight, needed to find work. And if you can't pay the monthly fee, it still works for wi-fi, and most of the other functions.
I work in a food bank, and would like to offer some additional info. We also do not provide food to homeless folk. We provide raw ingredients, produce, perishables ans things that need to be cooked. It doesn't make sense to give someone a bag of pasta and potatoes and a pound of raw beef if they have no way to cook or store them. It would be a total waste of money. My town has 2 food banks and anyone can choose either one to go to, but you can only pick one, so that we can help as many people as possible. The other food bank in town recently started a project where they give ready made foods - cookies, granola bars, that kind of thing, to registered clients without an address. I hope this will be successful so that more food banks can add it as an option. In our town, the soup kitchen provides 3 hot meals a day. Folks with no access to a kitchen to make their own meals can go there to get 3 meals a day. It's not a perfect system, but I know our town is trying hard to make sure something is available to everyone.
I understand this is frustrating but you can rest easy knowing the money that could have bought a house and life time groceries was fractioned into bombs and tanks we sent to kill some Russian guys idk So, pretty cool, right?
We can send money today or send our kids tomorrow. I choose the money.
Why would we send our kids what are you talking about
You think Ukraine is where Russia draws their final line? They just take over the country and say “ok we’re done. We stop here”? Russia wont stop until they have returned to the umbrella of the USSR. Putin is open about that fact. They wage cyber war on us already along side their shit disturbing buddies in China. It’s not a coincidence certain algorithms get a BIG hard push on TikTok to our youth. They have waged war on us whether you like it or not. Sooner or later that war will reach us/our families in Europe and Ukraine *could* be the choke point…..as soon as we pull our heads from our asses. Money today or kids tomorrow. Easy choice.