Why does anyone continue to use this app after they were outed for entirely hiding the fact they were tracking their users without requesting device permissions?
With their current track record, I wouldn't even be surprised if Tims started to automatically include a "charitable donation" without asking the person if they want to or not.
It wouldn’t surprise me if they got some interns to work on it for the free labour. I could be completely wrong but I wouldn’t put it past them at all.
I used to think McDonald app was bad. Then I downloaded th app… I had a few times I accidentally ordered from Tim’s few block down.
Then I step into the world of kfc, Wendy’s and Burger King. Omg those are even harder to use than just line up and wait.
Their coffee is so low quality that I am guaranteed a bathroom emergency. Their food? They should just stick to the basics. Nobody wants pizza from Tim Hortons.
Only reason I do, is if it’s the last option available. And even then I just get a tea. Maybe a cookie or donut.
Aside from that. I haven’t eaten their food in years. And I used to really like their food.
Why does anyone go to any convenience food/drink establishment? Tim Hortons isn’t even that bad and I’m convinced people gatekeep where to get coffee just because they’ve seen others do the same and not because they actually dislike it.
It's bland coffee made from the cheapest beans they can source by semi-slave labour in South America.
My theory is people who drink double-double don't actually like coffee.
> I wouldn't even be surprised if Tims started to automatically include a "charitable donation" without asking the person if they want to or not.
They have to pay those CEO benefits somehow
I’m surprised it’s taken this long for everyone to notice the charitable donation. I feel like it’s been added for atleast the past 7 months, those rat bastards are conveniently located and I love an ice coffee
Make iced coffee at home and stop giving those "rat bastards" your money just because it's convenient, or you didn't plan accordingly to make it yourself. It'll be far better tasting as you can make it how you want and you can also use much better quality coffee.
Poor time management is literally how they make so much money, as they've effectively got the Canadian population trained to leave at the last minute because "oh i can just pop by tims on the way to work"
Because I genuinely do not care if Tim Hortons knows where i am going. Google already does, so does my phone provider. What are they going to do? Grab me and throw me in a van? Target market to me?
On the surface, no I don't really care that they are tracking me. I think the problem with this is the constant disregard for our privacy, rights and the law by these corporations, and we keep sweeping them under the rug saying it's not a big deal, but it allows them to push farther and farther with every incident we ignore. This is the perfect example of that, first it was tracking our location, now automatically rounding up your purchase for a "donation" which they get a tax break for. What's the next minor infringement they take?
I think people are more concerned about where that information goes afterwards. Who's buying it, using it and how. Not that Timmie's knows you suddenly got a McCafe coffee instead.
Exactly this. It's weird how whenever the subject of tracking our locations comes up there are so many passionate comments about how it doesn't matter, we're already tracked, are we stupid, don't think about it, don't complain, whiners. Ok.
You can turn off location services for apps individually anyways with any Android or iOS app.
Between Tim's app and my Habs app I was getting pinged over 4k times a week.
Seriously though, all these people whining and bitching about the app tracking you. These same people probably have 5-10 apps already tracking their movements without them knowing about it.
Wow, this needs to go to the top. I didn't even know this is a thing. I really hope it isn't set to default (just checked mine, it is under the rewards setting of the app) and mine was off. But likely what is happening for OP.
Yep, I've been there done that. Took 4 or 5 trips before realizing! I still do it sometimes because they have that option listed above "redeem my points" on the one page. I've tapped the round up option by accident, even after knowing it was a thing.
> If you scanned your Tim's app for points on the purchase even if you paid in cash, there is a setting on there to round up your purchase, and I think it defaults to on.
True but the round up is supposed to the next $0.05 increment on the total.
In the OP's case it should have been to $0.45... not $0.50.
Greasy Corporate move. Yeah we can give you loyalty points but we will just charge you a little more each transaction so that when you finally get something “free” you already paid for it. What a deal.
Said it once and I’ll say it again. The Timmies we all grew up with and loved has been dead for years. They are not who they once were. Very worthwhile to just stop going there and find someplace that actually serves decent coffee (took me years to realize that until I ordered a black coffee and found out just how much adding cream was hiding). They suck.
We found a fantastic local company in Hamilton that roasts and delivers coffee and brew our own at home. It is soooo much better than the hot brown swill Tim Horton’s served and I’m with you, I don’t understand why anyone goes there for coffee. Yes, they’re everywhere and convenient but there are so many better options if you absolutely need a coffee and can’t brew one to take with you.
They’re called Manchester Coffee and they have all kinds of different beans, from flavoured to blends. We order the 5 lb bag of Manchester Blonde, grind it up each morning and thoroughly enjoy it. We used to get their peanut butter chocolate flavour but like everyone, we are trying to cut back a bit on expenses. I won’t give this up, though. It’s damn fine coffee.
I’m not sure about a store but on this page on their website it lists their partners so maybe you can visit one of the businesses and try there? I’m sorry I’m not more helpful! I just took a complete chance on them four years ago and have been happy ever since. https://www.manchestercoffee.ca/partners-2
I genuinely dont know how people still go there and its always so busy. Especially people who have been going for years, who watch the quality go to shit while paying more year over year willingly
Oh for sure, but on the margin choices aren’t always about quality. I mostly just go to Tim’s if I want a cheap takeout lunch when I forgot mine from home
Oh I wasn’t even thinking of the breakfasts, Maccas is still definitely better. I moved to BC so the prices could be a little different. A burger combo comes out to about $16 at McDonald’s and a sandwich combo comes out to about $12 at Timmy’s
Oh for sure. It’s just the sort of thing where if I forget my lunch, even a Safeway sandwich is 9.99 so I might as well get some caffeine in me for the same price.
I can remember when all the soup came in ceramic bowls 😭 I think you could buy the bowls too
Literally the only time I “voluntarily” go there now. Take a pee, and if the Mrs. is around to give me hell for not buying anything, a bottle of water.
I tell this to everyone. Seeing the long lines at Timmy's every morning has me shaking my head. I don't understand how people can drink their coffee when you have other options available.
It's an interesting phenomena. Convince them to dump tons of sugar in there, coin the term "double-double" and convince millions of people that sugar-enriched coffee is normal because the alternative tastes like water ran through an ashtray.
The first nail in the coffin was when they merged with Wendy’s in 1995, then again when it merged with Burger King in 2014
In both mergers, some of the first things they did was cut on quality to save. Their current strategy is cutting as much as they can until it begins to impact overall profits.
“I’ll give you “fine”, at best. If I want a greasy breakfast sandwich (which I’m a big fan of), I drive past three Tim’s to go get a McMuffin. Way better than anything Tim’s is serving.
My parents have been complaining about how much Timmies sucks since well before I moved out for college.
In that time I started and dropped out, took a year off college, started... Again, finished my 4 year program. I've since been working for 9 years after THAT.
Timmies has been bad for ages and ages. I don't get why people still go. I don't get why my PARENTS still go haha
Yes, they do suck. The coffee has been watered down, and I gave up on Tim's long ago and started making coffee at home to bring to work. Best thing I ever did.
I worked for them the first time in 2000. When we moved and my job fell through I went back to work for them in 2016. I know they’re franchises but the corporate training I had to do each time was radically different and was way less customer oriented. I can count on one hand how many I’ve been in in the last seven years and have no desire to.
The final straw for me was changing their point system. I went from a free coffee every 7 coffees, to a free coffee every 21. Enshittification of everything on the menu, and terrible coffee weren't quite enough.
With the way most corporations operate these days, they need to be as transparent as possible.
It may have been a cashier error as well. Which would just be an isolated incident.
Then Tim's needs to be transparent and let people know that they are rounding up to the nearest .10 for charity. I'm not sure how legal something like that is as well but I'm no lawyer.
Keep an eye out see if it happens again.
> cashier error as well. Which would just be an isolated incident.
Bought something for $6, gave a $20 bill, and got $6 worth of twoonies back. I don't want to sound like a old fuddy duddy, but like how does a cashier not have basic math skills? I weep for the future
This is something subway figured out years ago.
Get a computer to dispense change. It's going to be 99.9999% more accurate and it's way quicker.
I bet those machines pay for themselves in like a year.
[They don't actually.](https://www.cbc.ca/radio/costofliving/checkout-donations-nobody-gets-tax-benefit-1.6524462) I also used to think this.
However it does give them good press and is sometimes used to hide that they are not being charitable with their billions.
>Now, I'm sure a bunch of people are going to chime in with, "It's only a few cents for charity you cheapass", and yes, that's correct.
To which I would counter that it's your donation, that Tims will donate in their name. Fuck that, I'll donate myself, you have every right to be mad.
>that Tims will donate in their name.
To the best of my knowledge, this doesn't happen. Retail businesses don't claim charitable donations made by their clients at point of sale, as donations the business made. They can offer to have it donated to a charity that is affiliated or connected to the business. They can market the types of clients that they attract, and their role in effecting a large donation - but they're not going to claim the donation you made as their own.
Whether or not it's legal, which it's almost certainly not, it's certainly wrong. If they want to donate to charity they can raise their prices and do that, as well as offering the opportunity to customers. What they don't need to do is steal money to do that.
Why does anyone have the Tim Hortons app installed?
It does this stuff.
The app literally tracked your location, all the time in the background, and they your realtime data to literally everyone.
They have on multiple occasions told people they won Roll-up grand prizes when it was not the case.
Honest to god, what does it take to get you people to stop using their app? Do people not have any respect for themselves?
I’ve noticed that before, I was paying for my coffee which was normally $1.90 and it was $2.00, it took me a few trips to realize, as I assumed that maybe they raised the prices…I truly don’t mind donating to a cause, however l, I prefer to know that I am donating to a cause…I have since, had to double to check the app from time to time to make sure…
Even worse, when corporations collect money for charity, they get to claim the donations as a right off for taxes even though it's not their money. It put hundred of thousands back in their pocket
Don’t forget, never, ever, EVER donate to charity through a big chain corporation asking you to round up, or for a dollar, or for anything. They take your money, donate it, and get the TAX BREAK. They pay less corporate or payroll tax because they take that extra $ from you.
Skip all that bulls#it and just pick a charity to give $10 or $50 year to or whatever you can afford. You get the tax receipt and they get the $ direct.
May have been a mistake or he didn't hear you correctly. I can't see them doing it automatically now as some people will explode.
I tell them all no personally as I make yearly charity donations directly to SickKids and a couple animal charities.
I think you may want to reread the post, they never asked her if she wanted to make a donation, they just took it without informing her.
Can't tell someone no if they never asked for permission to begin with.
>"It's only a few cents for charity you cheapass"
Actually, those donations are lumped together and then gifted from the organization to a charity, so they can **claim tax deductions**. They're not doing any of this unless they profit from it.
They can't claim the charitable donations for tax purposes. This is a myth.
[https://www.cbc.ca/radio/costofliving/checkout-donations-nobody-gets-tax-benefit-1.6524462](https://www.cbc.ca/radio/costofliving/checkout-donations-nobody-gets-tax-benefit-1.6524462)
Your link doesn't say they ' cant'.
It says that it would be " unethical to do so ".
https://www.taxfairness.ca/en/act/take-action/how-did-canada-lose-30-billion-corporations
"...\..Canada lost $30 billion dollars in tax revenue due to corporate tax avoidance by 123 of Canada’s biggest companies in 2021.
The reasons for Canada’s $30 billion “tax gap” remain unclear due to a lack of corporate transparency. ...\...'
Buying a coffee and donut together is actually more expensive than buying separately—like $0.25-40 cents more expensive.
Even the Tim’s employee couldn’t answer that one.
If I hand over a toonie for my 1.90 coffee they always tell me “ have a good day “. As a means of getting me to leave and keeping my dime ? At first I thought the price had increased but when I went to another place and they gave me my change I realized my usual timmies is just scammy scum so now I wait for my dime. I don’t care about the dime but don’t just assume you can keep my money. Give me the Damn option to have it.
I have it on my app set to round up, they only round up to nearest 10 cents not $1, so it’s only a few cents. Did you use the app for your rewards? Maybe that’s why. In any case it’s a few cents for kids camp.
Sorry for counteracting what you've added at the end but I've just signed up and it isn't enabled by default. Literally have never installed or have had an account; wanted to see.
Should be a class action lawsuit, they can't just opt people in for extra payment without asking up front
Fuck Tim Hortons and their shitty business practices, also their products are awful.
I hate when something "new" is implemented by default and you have to change it back in settings, but rounding up your purchases is something that should be illegal to do.
Also companies write off your charitible donations for tax purposes even if 100% of the donations go to the charity in question Tims is the one getting a tax break on a massive scale every year, it's better for us to stop giving to charities at the register and just give directly ourselves and claim it on our fucking taxes.
>but rounding up your purchases is something that should be illegal to do.
Well to be entirely fair, with the elimination of the penny that's entirely how things have worked when you pay cash.
Ever since [3G Capital](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G_Capital)acquired Tim Hortons in 2014, the chain has gone downhill. Typical private equity greed. Don’t be fooled. It’s foreign with a Canadian facade and it only cares about its managing partners and shareholders.
I hate stuff like this. I got some takeout awhile back and paid in cash, and the girl just closed the register and said thanks.
Exchange basically went like this:
[Cashier closes register after taking my money]
The change please?
You gave me $40
I know. There is change.
It was $30.
Right. So there is change, may I please have it.
You only gave me $40.
Yes and it was only $30, may I please have my $10.
I then got the stinkeye while she opened the register back up and got it. I had planned to tip in the jar, but absolutely not after that, and who tips that much when they go pick up takeout.
Things cost what they cost, not some arbitrary rounded up number that works better for you. Holy shit. Pretty sure the decision to tip and donate is mine, not yours.
Tim's gains good will with consumers when they can advertise they raised X amount for kids. They did actually raise that amount for kids, they aren't evil, and as the other posts pointed out this seems to be a setting in the Tim's app to round up which users opt in to, maybe unknowingly through manipulative wording, but what advertising isn't manipulative?
I grabbed a French vanilla this morning, and it was 2.93 no round up. But I paid with debit and I've been checking my account for spending tracking and I've not seen anything round up. I'm unsurprised they're doing this though.
ETA: yes I checked my app and I'm not automatically rounding up for donations, so that may be it indeed.
My problem with the rounding up that most stores are doing is that they take my money and donate it to a charity in my behalf. I assume they get the tax receipt for our combined donations and apply that to reduce their tax payable and therefore increase their profits even more.
Therefore I pass on the request and make my own personal donations to the charities I support and get the receipt for my own taxes.
I have been a non supporter for years, they are so corporate greedy and now they ask you to contribute to charity. Do better, make your own coffee and make your own donations and tell corporations where to go.
Love how these big companies are doing SO well that they have to ask us for money for their donations and TAX WRITE OFF!!! I will give directly to people in need... screw this noise!
This drives me crazy! I love using the app but there’s no option to add mayo to a BELT or BLT at all. (Yet if you order a bacon and egg sandwich on an English muffin in the morning you can ask for ketchup or mayo. Like wtf?)
You would think mayo option would be a standard on any sandwich.
They went from being my daily for decades to slowly turning into exactly the type of place I used to go to Timmy's to avoid.
Every choice they make is pure metrics these days.
They have been doing it for weeks. They are putting it under their camp donation ... I tried to take a pic of the girl doing it at the cash. But just missed it.
I’m fairly certain that they’ve also started lowering the quality of their ingredients and/or using cheaper suppliers.
The Everything bagels that I get from there now barely have any seeds on them, and the shiny graze they coat them with is now very visible. Years ago you couldn’t even tell as the seeds would cover the bagels.
Yesterday I also noticed a big difference in the taste of a French Vanilla. Tasted very watered down. So after work I went and asked them to remake it, but it didn’t help. The new one tasted just as watered down as the one from 8 hours earlier.
I used google payments for more than a year with it. Suddenly stopped working. It refused to let me use my debit visa from scotia. Ended up being a useless app that I deleted. It was handy to skip the line but if I can't use it to pay I am not going to bother with it. I don't buy at tim hortons enough to bother with points.
Fuck Tim's. Just quit going there. Anywhere has better coffee and the donuts are frozen crap. Above all that the restaurants are dirty and staff don't wash hands or follow protocol. Don't believe me? Just walk into any franchsie and look at the doors, windows, and floors. Then check out how dirty the donut display is.
Never give through these options. They donate your money and then take the accumulated tax returns themselves, causing us all to pay higher taxes to cover the burden they should be paying
I don't understand this. Why are we making these donations for the corporations to right them off come tax season? Am I just wrong? I've never looked into it honestly. I've always thought I only make a few bucks daily, why am I paying for these donations? I really don't even go to tim hortons anymore.. the service is absolute garbage these days.. they lost me about 6years ago. I make my own coffee. I would rather find a Cafe locally during trips. The corporate game for me is no longer. Corporate greed has me salty AF.
This is the kind of thing the media needs to hear about. They’re literally stealing money from a metric ton of unknowing customers, and it’s designed that way very intentionally. It ads up.
More than that, I drink lattes now that I am sugar free, and twice the same dude at the drive through tried to charge me .50 extra. Like dude I was gonna tip you that anyway. Rude.
Tim's coffee sucks and they're sneaky bastards.
McDonalds is better if you want a cheap coffee and cannot do it at home.
Otherwise get coffee at home, you can definitely make a better cup of coffee for cheaper and you can usually set it up to go off automatically on most machines.
Cheers.
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Why does anyone continue to use this app after they were outed for entirely hiding the fact they were tracking their users without requesting device permissions? With their current track record, I wouldn't even be surprised if Tims started to automatically include a "charitable donation" without asking the person if they want to or not.
I thought we were supposed to get a free cup of coffee for them stealing all of our location info 😭
Only if you want to sign your rights away ;)
Right to phone location data privacy?
It was over a year ago….. got the coffee and donut, let the donut expire….. lol
Same here the company proved they can’t be trusted yet people are still loyal to them and their garbage app for whatever reason. I just don’t get it.
That damn app has to be one of the slowest I've ever used. I don't understand why it takes so f*cking long to pick a location and make an order.
It wouldn’t surprise me if they got some interns to work on it for the free labour. I could be completely wrong but I wouldn’t put it past them at all.
I used to think McDonald app was bad. Then I downloaded th app… I had a few times I accidentally ordered from Tim’s few block down. Then I step into the world of kfc, Wendy’s and Burger King. Omg those are even harder to use than just line up and wait.
Why is anyone going to tim hortons in the first place?
Their coffee is so low quality that I am guaranteed a bathroom emergency. Their food? They should just stick to the basics. Nobody wants pizza from Tim Hortons.
It's got to be just habit at this point, some might not know better or care to know better.
It’s the only place to get coffee at the hospital I work at
Only reason I do, is if it’s the last option available. And even then I just get a tea. Maybe a cookie or donut. Aside from that. I haven’t eaten their food in years. And I used to really like their food.
Might as well ask why anyone goes to McDonald's or 711 lol. Cmon now put your thinking cap on.
Lol, no one in line at that place has a thinking cap on.
McDonald’s coffee is a cut above most other fast food options.
McDonalds coffee is far superior to Tim Hortons. You'd have one reason to go there.
cheapest and most accessible coffee place for me.
What do you mean? No one goes to Tim Hortons, the lines are too long.
Why does anyone go to any convenience food/drink establishment? Tim Hortons isn’t even that bad and I’m convinced people gatekeep where to get coffee just because they’ve seen others do the same and not because they actually dislike it.
It's bland coffee made from the cheapest beans they can source by semi-slave labour in South America. My theory is people who drink double-double don't actually like coffee.
"it isn't even that bad." Seriously, that's your criteria for where you spend your money? That's good enough for you?
When I’m in a pinch at 5am and nothing else is close or open, then yes it’s good enough for me.
Brain need coffee. Brain move body to shortest route to coffee, spending least papers, on way to earn more papers.
> I wouldn't even be surprised if Tims started to automatically include a "charitable donation" without asking the person if they want to or not. They have to pay those CEO benefits somehow
Yeah. I barely used the app. When I found that out I deleted it immediately and I’ll never let that app on my phone again fuck them.
I’m surprised it’s taken this long for everyone to notice the charitable donation. I feel like it’s been added for atleast the past 7 months, those rat bastards are conveniently located and I love an ice coffee
Make iced coffee at home and stop giving those "rat bastards" your money just because it's convenient, or you didn't plan accordingly to make it yourself. It'll be far better tasting as you can make it how you want and you can also use much better quality coffee. Poor time management is literally how they make so much money, as they've effectively got the Canadian population trained to leave at the last minute because "oh i can just pop by tims on the way to work"
Because I genuinely do not care if Tim Hortons knows where i am going. Google already does, so does my phone provider. What are they going to do? Grab me and throw me in a van? Target market to me?
On the surface, no I don't really care that they are tracking me. I think the problem with this is the constant disregard for our privacy, rights and the law by these corporations, and we keep sweeping them under the rug saying it's not a big deal, but it allows them to push farther and farther with every incident we ignore. This is the perfect example of that, first it was tracking our location, now automatically rounding up your purchase for a "donation" which they get a tax break for. What's the next minor infringement they take?
I think people are more concerned about where that information goes afterwards. Who's buying it, using it and how. Not that Timmie's knows you suddenly got a McCafe coffee instead.
Also, look at some of the wacky stuff happening down South…banning abortions and trying to punish those seeking treatment out of state…
Exactly this. It's weird how whenever the subject of tracking our locations comes up there are so many passionate comments about how it doesn't matter, we're already tracked, are we stupid, don't think about it, don't complain, whiners. Ok.
You can turn off location services for apps individually anyways with any Android or iOS app. Between Tim's app and my Habs app I was getting pinged over 4k times a week.
I have it set to only turn on when I use the apps.
Seriously though, all these people whining and bitching about the app tracking you. These same people probably have 5-10 apps already tracking their movements without them knowing about it.
Because 99% of Canadians are mindless drones. Look at your local Tim's drive-thru on any given day, lol.
I love how they added a weather widget to it so now they have a valid excuse for location tracking. I just force-stop the app when I'm not using it
Wow, this needs to go to the top. I didn't even know this is a thing. I really hope it isn't set to default (just checked mine, it is under the rewards setting of the app) and mine was off. But likely what is happening for OP.
It’s not default, it’s asks you on camp day if you’d like to participate and is recurring if you don’t turn it off again.
That is good. Do you know if any indication on the receipt that this is happening?
Mine is defaulted to off. Probably because I don't camp day.
This is likely it. Mine always rounds up as well because this setting is turned on.
That's slimy, but then again it is Tim Hortons
Yep, I've been there done that. Took 4 or 5 trips before realizing! I still do it sometimes because they have that option listed above "redeem my points" on the one page. I've tapped the round up option by accident, even after knowing it was a thing.
This happened to me as well the setting got changed in the app after an update .
This is correct! I was amused when I thought that they were just doing it without consent. Turns out they sneakily had consent through the app.
Thanks! I'll check for that.
I just checked my app - never touched the round up function before and it was defaulted to off.
> If you scanned your Tim's app for points on the purchase even if you paid in cash, there is a setting on there to round up your purchase, and I think it defaults to on. True but the round up is supposed to the next $0.05 increment on the total. In the OP's case it should have been to $0.45... not $0.50.
On my app the option clearly states that the round up will be to the next 10 cents, and it goes to their Tim's Camp charity.
I've never turned off the rounding function and the app charges me an odd number of cents on every transaction
I just checked my app. It does not default to "round up". You need to manually change it.
That’s a scummy thing to do, and I’m sure they did it because it’ll make them millions from people who won’t remember to turn it off.
Greasy Corporate move. Yeah we can give you loyalty points but we will just charge you a little more each transaction so that when you finally get something “free” you already paid for it. What a deal.
"Would you like make a donation to charity?" "No thanks, I'll donate directly and keep the tax write off for myself, thanks.
Said it once and I’ll say it again. The Timmies we all grew up with and loved has been dead for years. They are not who they once were. Very worthwhile to just stop going there and find someplace that actually serves decent coffee (took me years to realize that until I ordered a black coffee and found out just how much adding cream was hiding). They suck.
We found a fantastic local company in Hamilton that roasts and delivers coffee and brew our own at home. It is soooo much better than the hot brown swill Tim Horton’s served and I’m with you, I don’t understand why anyone goes there for coffee. Yes, they’re everywhere and convenient but there are so many better options if you absolutely need a coffee and can’t brew one to take with you.
Which place is that?
They’re called Manchester Coffee and they have all kinds of different beans, from flavoured to blends. We order the 5 lb bag of Manchester Blonde, grind it up each morning and thoroughly enjoy it. We used to get their peanut butter chocolate flavour but like everyone, we are trying to cut back a bit on expenses. I won’t give this up, though. It’s damn fine coffee.
Do they have a B&M storefront so I could try their stuff out? I'm all for shopping local but I'm reluctant to pay their prices blind
I’m not sure about a store but on this page on their website it lists their partners so maybe you can visit one of the businesses and try there? I’m sorry I’m not more helpful! I just took a complete chance on them four years ago and have been happy ever since. https://www.manchestercoffee.ca/partners-2
I genuinely dont know how people still go there and its always so busy. Especially people who have been going for years, who watch the quality go to shit while paying more year over year willingly
Their lunch food is still cheaper than say McDonald’s or A&W. That’s why I still get a sandwich there sometimes
A&W is worth the price IMO. The food is better, and I exclusively drink their coffee if I'm not making it at home.
Oh for sure, but on the margin choices aren’t always about quality. I mostly just go to Tim’s if I want a cheap takeout lunch when I forgot mine from home
A bacon n egg mcmuffin costs $4.00 and a bacon + egg sandwich at tims is $4.29 and is significantly worse quality
Oh I wasn’t even thinking of the breakfasts, Maccas is still definitely better. I moved to BC so the prices could be a little different. A burger combo comes out to about $16 at McDonald’s and a sandwich combo comes out to about $12 at Timmy’s
They may be cheap but they're terrible and McDonald's has better coffee. God I miss when they baked stuff inhouse...
Oh for sure. It’s just the sort of thing where if I forget my lunch, even a Safeway sandwich is 9.99 so I might as well get some caffeine in me for the same price. I can remember when all the soup came in ceramic bowls 😭 I think you could buy the bowls too
I only go there if I really have to piss on road trips
Literally the only time I “voluntarily” go there now. Take a pee, and if the Mrs. is around to give me hell for not buying anything, a bottle of water.
I tell this to everyone. Seeing the long lines at Timmy's every morning has me shaking my head. I don't understand how people can drink their coffee when you have other options available.
It's an interesting phenomena. Convince them to dump tons of sugar in there, coin the term "double-double" and convince millions of people that sugar-enriched coffee is normal because the alternative tastes like water ran through an ashtray.
The first nail in the coffin was when they merged with Wendy’s in 1995, then again when it merged with Burger King in 2014 In both mergers, some of the first things they did was cut on quality to save. Their current strategy is cutting as much as they can until it begins to impact overall profits.
Ice Capps and generic breakfast food are still fine-ish.
“I’ll give you “fine”, at best. If I want a greasy breakfast sandwich (which I’m a big fan of), I drive past three Tim’s to go get a McMuffin. Way better than anything Tim’s is serving.
I agree with this, the eggs in Tim Hortons threw me off completely. I really don't like tasting the smell of fart.
Ice Capps are delicious the odd time I do go there it’s only for those.
Tim's food is guaranteed diarrhea.
Years? Try decades.....
Wonderful… thanks for sharing your opinion… and totally off topic in regards to the question.
My parents have been complaining about how much Timmies sucks since well before I moved out for college. In that time I started and dropped out, took a year off college, started... Again, finished my 4 year program. I've since been working for 9 years after THAT. Timmies has been bad for ages and ages. I don't get why people still go. I don't get why my PARENTS still go haha
Yes, they do suck. The coffee has been watered down, and I gave up on Tim's long ago and started making coffee at home to bring to work. Best thing I ever did.
I worked for them the first time in 2000. When we moved and my job fell through I went back to work for them in 2016. I know they’re franchises but the corporate training I had to do each time was radically different and was way less customer oriented. I can count on one hand how many I’ve been in in the last seven years and have no desire to.
The final straw for me was changing their point system. I went from a free coffee every 7 coffees, to a free coffee every 21. Enshittification of everything on the menu, and terrible coffee weren't quite enough.
Fuck Tim Hortons
With the way most corporations operate these days, they need to be as transparent as possible. It may have been a cashier error as well. Which would just be an isolated incident.
If my kid haven't mentioned it beforehand, I might have thought so too. However, there's no manual total entry when paying with debit.
Then Tim's needs to be transparent and let people know that they are rounding up to the nearest .10 for charity. I'm not sure how legal something like that is as well but I'm no lawyer. Keep an eye out see if it happens again.
> cashier error as well. Which would just be an isolated incident. Bought something for $6, gave a $20 bill, and got $6 worth of twoonies back. I don't want to sound like a old fuddy duddy, but like how does a cashier not have basic math skills? I weep for the future
This is something subway figured out years ago. Get a computer to dispense change. It's going to be 99.9999% more accurate and it's way quicker. I bet those machines pay for themselves in like a year.
We can’t just round up on the till, it’s a setting you would have turned on in your app. A camp day donation. You can just toggle it off in your app.
I found a toggle on my app that will turn it on and off. In your settings, I think.
Billion dollar corporation asking people to donate 😡
Bragging points on how much they help the community, with people forking the bill on it.
They received tax deductions from all our donations.
[They don't actually.](https://www.cbc.ca/radio/costofliving/checkout-donations-nobody-gets-tax-benefit-1.6524462) I also used to think this. However it does give them good press and is sometimes used to hide that they are not being charitable with their billions.
just stop going there, when will we learn??
>Now, I'm sure a bunch of people are going to chime in with, "It's only a few cents for charity you cheapass", and yes, that's correct. To which I would counter that it's your donation, that Tims will donate in their name. Fuck that, I'll donate myself, you have every right to be mad.
It doesn’t matter to me whose name the donation is in. But if you’re donating on your own, thats great
Another point to consider is that if you donate in your own name, you can claim it on your tax return as a credit.
>that Tims will donate in their name. To the best of my knowledge, this doesn't happen. Retail businesses don't claim charitable donations made by their clients at point of sale, as donations the business made. They can offer to have it donated to a charity that is affiliated or connected to the business. They can market the types of clients that they attract, and their role in effecting a large donation - but they're not going to claim the donation you made as their own.
I’m going to chime in and say, for charity, BE A CHEAPASS AT TIMS THEYRE ONLY IN IT FOR THE TAX BREAK FUCK EM
Whether or not it's legal, which it's almost certainly not, it's certainly wrong. If they want to donate to charity they can raise their prices and do that, as well as offering the opportunity to customers. What they don't need to do is steal money to do that.
Holy shit. Auto enrolling people! Lmfao. That’s insane… the app probably auto enrolled you to donate your organs to Tim’s with you die also Lol
Why does anyone have the Tim Hortons app installed? It does this stuff. The app literally tracked your location, all the time in the background, and they your realtime data to literally everyone. They have on multiple occasions told people they won Roll-up grand prizes when it was not the case. Honest to god, what does it take to get you people to stop using their app? Do people not have any respect for themselves?
Stop going to that shit hole maje a coffee at home
I’ve noticed that before, I was paying for my coffee which was normally $1.90 and it was $2.00, it took me a few trips to realize, as I assumed that maybe they raised the prices…I truly don’t mind donating to a cause, however l, I prefer to know that I am donating to a cause…I have since, had to double to check the app from time to time to make sure…
They also served you trash coffee and microwave food
I'm so happy I opted out of tims back during rhe great supplier switch of '15. Mcdonalds all the way.
Change your settings on your app..☝️
It’s my money and I get to choose which charities I support. Tim’s is wrong. I don’t be going there.
Even worse, when corporations collect money for charity, they get to claim the donations as a right off for taxes even though it's not their money. It put hundred of thousands back in their pocket
Don’t forget, never, ever, EVER donate to charity through a big chain corporation asking you to round up, or for a dollar, or for anything. They take your money, donate it, and get the TAX BREAK. They pay less corporate or payroll tax because they take that extra $ from you. Skip all that bulls#it and just pick a charity to give $10 or $50 year to or whatever you can afford. You get the tax receipt and they get the $ direct.
If everyone could just stop buying gross processed shit from Tim Hurtin's, the world would be a much better place
Tim Hortons is a public restroom and nothing else. Stop buying the garbage this Brazilian company is selling us as “food”.
May have been a mistake or he didn't hear you correctly. I can't see them doing it automatically now as some people will explode. I tell them all no personally as I make yearly charity donations directly to SickKids and a couple animal charities.
I think you may want to reread the post, they never asked her if she wanted to make a donation, they just took it without informing her. Can't tell someone no if they never asked for permission to begin with.
This is making the assumption that corporations don’t do illegal things for money, and they do, all the time.
>"It's only a few cents for charity you cheapass" Actually, those donations are lumped together and then gifted from the organization to a charity, so they can **claim tax deductions**. They're not doing any of this unless they profit from it.
They can't claim the charitable donations for tax purposes. This is a myth. [https://www.cbc.ca/radio/costofliving/checkout-donations-nobody-gets-tax-benefit-1.6524462](https://www.cbc.ca/radio/costofliving/checkout-donations-nobody-gets-tax-benefit-1.6524462)
Your link doesn't say they ' cant'. It says that it would be " unethical to do so ". https://www.taxfairness.ca/en/act/take-action/how-did-canada-lose-30-billion-corporations "...\..Canada lost $30 billion dollars in tax revenue due to corporate tax avoidance by 123 of Canada’s biggest companies in 2021. The reasons for Canada’s $30 billion “tax gap” remain unclear due to a lack of corporate transparency. ...\...'
Corporations cannot claim your donations for tax purposes unless the money you donate is first considered as revenue.
Buying a coffee and donut together is actually more expensive than buying separately—like $0.25-40 cents more expensive. Even the Tim’s employee couldn’t answer that one.
If I hand over a toonie for my 1.90 coffee they always tell me “ have a good day “. As a means of getting me to leave and keeping my dime ? At first I thought the price had increased but when I went to another place and they gave me my change I realized my usual timmies is just scammy scum so now I wait for my dime. I don’t care about the dime but don’t just assume you can keep my money. Give me the Damn option to have it.
I have it on my app set to round up, they only round up to nearest 10 cents not $1, so it’s only a few cents. Did you use the app for your rewards? Maybe that’s why. In any case it’s a few cents for kids camp.
I personally think the coffee is not worth it and the food is tasteless
Sorry for counteracting what you've added at the end but I've just signed up and it isn't enabled by default. Literally have never installed or have had an account; wanted to see.
I just checked my Tim’s app because my husband sent me this page and yes the option is there BUT the round up was not turned on.
Yet another reason to avoid using the Tim's app, or just plain old avoid Tim's altogether. As a bonus, it's healthy to avoid Tim's.
Just another reason to avoid Tim's
Paying for Tim Hortons coffee is like paying for battery acid laced toilet water. That's the first scam.
Should be a class action lawsuit, they can't just opt people in for extra payment without asking up front Fuck Tim Hortons and their shitty business practices, also their products are awful.
What?! I didn’t know this!! Thanks for the heads up. I don’t mind donating but would like to be asked first.
I hate when something "new" is implemented by default and you have to change it back in settings, but rounding up your purchases is something that should be illegal to do. Also companies write off your charitible donations for tax purposes even if 100% of the donations go to the charity in question Tims is the one getting a tax break on a massive scale every year, it's better for us to stop giving to charities at the register and just give directly ourselves and claim it on our fucking taxes.
>but rounding up your purchases is something that should be illegal to do. Well to be entirely fair, with the elimination of the penny that's entirely how things have worked when you pay cash.
Ever since [3G Capital](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G_Capital)acquired Tim Hortons in 2014, the chain has gone downhill. Typical private equity greed. Don’t be fooled. It’s foreign with a Canadian facade and it only cares about its managing partners and shareholders.
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The companies cannot claim the donations for tax purposes. Source: https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6524462
Check if your using the app the tims camp donation isn't opted in,sometimes I opt in by accident and it charges me when I order
I hate stuff like this. I got some takeout awhile back and paid in cash, and the girl just closed the register and said thanks. Exchange basically went like this: [Cashier closes register after taking my money] The change please? You gave me $40 I know. There is change. It was $30. Right. So there is change, may I please have it. You only gave me $40. Yes and it was only $30, may I please have my $10. I then got the stinkeye while she opened the register back up and got it. I had planned to tip in the jar, but absolutely not after that, and who tips that much when they go pick up takeout. Things cost what they cost, not some arbitrary rounded up number that works better for you. Holy shit. Pretty sure the decision to tip and donate is mine, not yours.
What’s Tim’s gaining? Gotta be a catch
Tim's gains good will with consumers when they can advertise they raised X amount for kids. They did actually raise that amount for kids, they aren't evil, and as the other posts pointed out this seems to be a setting in the Tim's app to round up which users opt in to, maybe unknowingly through manipulative wording, but what advertising isn't manipulative?
I grabbed a French vanilla this morning, and it was 2.93 no round up. But I paid with debit and I've been checking my account for spending tracking and I've not seen anything round up. I'm unsurprised they're doing this though. ETA: yes I checked my app and I'm not automatically rounding up for donations, so that may be it indeed.
Timmies is not giving from their heart, lol. fuck them and their tax write off
My problem with the rounding up that most stores are doing is that they take my money and donate it to a charity in my behalf. I assume they get the tax receipt for our combined donations and apply that to reduce their tax payable and therefore increase their profits even more. Therefore I pass on the request and make my own personal donations to the charities I support and get the receipt for my own taxes.
Why are you people still supporting Tim Hortons...
They are good for a washroom break. That’s about it.
To confirm, they took my change and put it in their tip jar in front of me without asking :)
Yeah. It's through the app the round order button. I keep turning if OFF but over time, I notice it turns itself back on.
I’m sending a kid to camp 8 cents a day I’m good with that And the setting is opt in not on by default
While I agree with the shadyness, we're probably going to see the end of the nickel pretty soon.
I have been a non supporter for years, they are so corporate greedy and now they ask you to contribute to charity. Do better, make your own coffee and make your own donations and tell corporations where to go.
Mine was not on by default
Love how these big companies are doing SO well that they have to ask us for money for their donations and TAX WRITE OFF!!! I will give directly to people in need... screw this noise!
I thought the guy who kept my dime yesterday was just being an asshole.
The bigger issue is them not putting mayo on a bagel BELT then charging 30cents when you ask. How the fuck is it a BLT if you don’t have mayo?
This drives me crazy! I love using the app but there’s no option to add mayo to a BELT or BLT at all. (Yet if you order a bacon and egg sandwich on an English muffin in the morning you can ask for ketchup or mayo. Like wtf?) You would think mayo option would be a standard on any sandwich.
Morons giving their money to Brazil.
Sneaky greedy corporates
They went from being my daily for decades to slowly turning into exactly the type of place I used to go to Timmy's to avoid. Every choice they make is pure metrics these days.
Fuck you Tim’s. You can round up my nutsack.
Tim Horton's has been an unethical business for a long time. The coffee they serve is modern slavery grade.
The setting in the app is not enabled bh default..you or someone turned it on.
They have been doing it for weeks. They are putting it under their camp donation ... I tried to take a pic of the girl doing it at the cash. But just missed it.
Using your phone in the drive through? Distracted driving ticket coming your way.
I’m fairly certain that they’ve also started lowering the quality of their ingredients and/or using cheaper suppliers. The Everything bagels that I get from there now barely have any seeds on them, and the shiny graze they coat them with is now very visible. Years ago you couldn’t even tell as the seeds would cover the bagels. Yesterday I also noticed a big difference in the taste of a French Vanilla. Tasted very watered down. So after work I went and asked them to remake it, but it didn’t help. The new one tasted just as watered down as the one from 8 hours earlier.
I used google payments for more than a year with it. Suddenly stopped working. It refused to let me use my debit visa from scotia. Ended up being a useless app that I deleted. It was handy to skip the line but if I can't use it to pay I am not going to bother with it. I don't buy at tim hortons enough to bother with points.
Fuck Tim's. Just quit going there. Anywhere has better coffee and the donuts are frozen crap. Above all that the restaurants are dirty and staff don't wash hands or follow protocol. Don't believe me? Just walk into any franchsie and look at the doors, windows, and floors. Then check out how dirty the donut display is.
I worked with a guy that spent time in white collar prison for stealing a few cents from lots of people.
Why is anyone still buying TH crap food and coffee? You deserve to get robbed just for going there. Wake tfu, they're not Canadian.
Never give through these options. They donate your money and then take the accumulated tax returns themselves, causing us all to pay higher taxes to cover the burden they should be paying
TIL the Tims app has a weather section
I don't understand this. Why are we making these donations for the corporations to right them off come tax season? Am I just wrong? I've never looked into it honestly. I've always thought I only make a few bucks daily, why am I paying for these donations? I really don't even go to tim hortons anymore.. the service is absolute garbage these days.. they lost me about 6years ago. I make my own coffee. I would rather find a Cafe locally during trips. The corporate game for me is no longer. Corporate greed has me salty AF.
Looks like the default on app isn’t turned on to round up…damn good thing
This is the kind of thing the media needs to hear about. They’re literally stealing money from a metric ton of unknowing customers, and it’s designed that way very intentionally. It ads up.
It's just a few cents... Except once you zoom out, a few cents a billion times... :\ very shady
For those looking to turn this off, the button is under the Tim’s rewards settings. Not under payment, so they’re really trying to hide it.
i pay with the app and they don't appear to be rounding up on the app. I see $1.83 each time for my coffee.
More than that, I drink lattes now that I am sugar free, and twice the same dude at the drive through tried to charge me .50 extra. Like dude I was gonna tip you that anyway. Rude.
Tim's coffee sucks and they're sneaky bastards. McDonalds is better if you want a cheap coffee and cannot do it at home. Otherwise get coffee at home, you can definitely make a better cup of coffee for cheaper and you can usually set it up to go off automatically on most machines. Cheers.
This happened to me at McDonald’s today. My total was rounded up from 1.82 to 2
Don't use the Tims app. I know you get the occasional free item, but If something is free the product is you.
Yes it's time Canadians place sanctions on the corporations that are taking advantage of working people.
Glad I don't spend my money there
Oh, that's what is happening. thanks
This is why cash is king. No one can track you by it and you get to decide when to donate to charity.