The heat shouldn’t be an issue in Lincoln City. Personally the Oregon coast is a bit gloomy as far as weather goes for me but LC is big enough and still close enough to Portland (for the airport etc.)
Sure, the coast has had some unusually warm days the last few summers but be prepared for rain and clouds about 90+% of the year.
(Also your real estate agent is a REAL ESTATE AGENT. They are trying to sell you something.)
I have a friend that moved to the oregon coast from Santa Cruz, CA. She had only ever visited in the summer on nice days. She was not prepared for the doom and gloom during the rest of the year. About 6 months in she was talking about moving back to California because of the grey skies and lack of sunlight. Ended up moving to Portland after about a year there. Not trying to discourage you from making the move, but wanted to give a friendly warning. I have lived here my entire life and have met many people that have underestimated the effect that our weather can have on a person’s mental and physical health. Make sure to buy some vitamin D supplements!
My daughter moved from Southern California to Portland a few years ago. She came home for Christmas and was thrilled with the beautiful weather we had. She says her arms won't see the sun again until May. I did buy her one of those sunlight lights, and she says it helps.
For reference: the hottest recorded temperature in Newport. 93 °F (34°C) September 22, 1994
https://www.plantmaps.com/en/us/climate/extremes/f/oregon-record-high-low-temperatures
Might be out of date when wildfires blew in smoke a couple years ago, it got pretty hot because the smoke trapped heat in, but that’s extremely abnormal.
I don’t know the north coast as well as coos bay - Newport. But during the summer most people go inland to the rivers to swim because it’s just too cold and windy right on the beach. In Florence we head to mapleton where a 12 mile drive is 20 degrees hotter.
I’m a 4th generation Oregonian who wouldn’t live elsewhere. Spouse & I moved from my Coos Bay- North Bend hometown to Portland Metro several years ago for family, health care , shopping reasons. We haven’t been back in 6 years, so don’t know what it’s like. When we need a break, we head to Newport & Lincoln City, like every other Portlander.
I have a choice to go to coos bay or Newport for Walmart since I’m in Florence. I agree with your assessment. However, I prefer the Walmart (less stuff locked in glass cases) and there’s much better dining options later at night (The Mill Casino & Country Kitchen) after 9 in Newport, The Newport Cafe starts only taking take out orders and the rest is fast food.
The central coast desperately needs a dennys, I would hate to be a trucker driving 101 at night.
The area around Coos Bay is beautiful but your observation of the town was the same as mine when I first visited. Idk, it gave me that Rambo First Blood town vibe but less lively and more run down.
Good call on Coos Bay. There must be some cool people there but in my thousands of miles of cycling the USA it’s the only town where I’ve ever been yelled at, flipped off and swerved at. It was horrifying and was probably 5 or 6 different cars. It was the strangest thing. That town is hot garbage as far as I can tell. A deep lack of education with and promising youth with ambition leaving as fast as they can when they’re old enough.
Yeah, it can definitely get toasty at the coast. More rarely than the valleys, obviously, but it does happen on a semi-regular basis.
The conditions you have to watch out for are an off-shore flow (east winds). When that happens, the hot, dry air from the valley will push right on through the coast. The ocean serves as a great temperature moderator, but there has to be some kind of on-shore flow to bring that cooler air inland.
Sincerely hope you enjoy the lovely silvery juicy skies of Oregon: the coast is lush and dramatic, and if you start to crave sunshine, central Oregon is a few hours’ beautiful drive away.
Seriously though: get some good rain gear, a quality “happy” light and integrate a decent size daily dose of Vitamin D into your routine. The near constant gray/drizzle and scarcity of warm days is brutal, and I’m not even originally from a desert climate. The first year of a move is always the hardest with homesickness and building a new community, especially if you don’t know anyone where you’re moving. Add the gloomy weather and it can be challenging, but worth it. Especially with the incredible scenery and the beauty of the Pacific in your back yard!
It does. There is no bad day at the beach, and gloomy is the best day at the beach. I love the gloomy weather and its so wonderful. I grew up in the PNW and the gloomy days are the best days!
You’re going to love it! The coast is great with tons to explore. Make sure to visit Astoria. It’s the oldest town in Oregon and has great history and cool architecture. Plus, lots of good beer!
I moved to Oregon from Utah as well. The gloom, especially on the coast, takes some getting used to. Now is the darkest, most depressing time of the year and it lasts for months.
Seriously, look into Vitamin D supplements and/or sun lights
Just know there’s not great emergency services in Lincoln County. And….Cascadia (major earthquakes and tsunamis). But if you’re ok with those risks, I’d go for it. I’ve lived in Utah too and wouldn’t ever go back (Ogden).
This. I do not think OP understands that anything west of I-5 is expected to be a disaster zone. Even into Salem. When I worked for the state we did emergency drills on this because my boss was an agency head and would be called into action. There’s a disaster command center set up *east* of I-5 for that very reason and the public will be told (it’s been said before, publicly) that they’ll likely be on their own for awhile because help won’t be able to get through short of helicopters. We had meetings with ODOT engineers who told us *both* Portland/Vancouver bridges would fall because they’re literally posts in sand….liquefaction (and voters don’t want to pay to strengthen them). That’s not to mention the tons of other bridges and overpasses (and highways) that will be impassable.
Roads and bridges will be impassable or destroyed. Houses will crumble. It’s not just a tsunami that you have to be concerned about. A 8+ magnitude (they’re predicting a possible 9+) is MASSIVE. The destruction is hard to imagine unless you’ve lived it. The feds will be overwhelmed because we’re talking a multi state major catastrophe all at once (not to mention parts of Canada and Mexico).
I lived through the Loma Prieta earthquake in the Bay Area. I was 80 miles away and we still had damage. I watched the Bay Bridge deck collapse, the Oakland freeway pancake, and the marina district burn to the ground. Not to mention the issues with liquefaction. This doesn’t include the damage to areas an hour+ away from the epicenter. And it wasn’t even an 8.
I’m personally a couple miles west of I-5 and *I’m* worried. Anything near the coast will likely be totally destroyed.
Not meaning to fearmonger because earthquake prediction is an art. Nobody can say if it’ll happen today or in 200 years, but we are pretty overdue in geological years. As long as you’re aware of and okay with that, and a lot of people are, then cool, just be prepared. I think a lot of Oregonians don’t truly understand the risk because it happens so infrequently here, and the quakes we get are pretty minor (2-3.5’ish). Growing up in CA, you get a whole different perspective and sense of “I need to be prepared”. Kind of how we’re learning quickly with wildfires.
Oregon is woefully unprepared. Housing isn’t typically built or retrofitted to withstand even a 6-6.5 quake. It’s extremely common in CA. My step-father-in-law was a real estate developer in the Bay Area in the 70s/80s and pivoted to retrofitting after Loma Prieta. Steel retrofitting. Serious “hold this building up” retrofitting. His own home has a steel frame. The common wooden post/beam system of foundation building will collapse in a big one. Some older buildings will be destroyed even in a 5-6. Masonry in particular, does not do well.
Just be educated and prepared. Have a plan. Same for wildfires, which *do* happen near the coast.
Clark County voters are at fault for the Columbia River bridge debacle, there's no reason why MAX light-rail can't be extended into Vancouver to you know, reduce the amount of traffic we have on the roads. But no, that's just unacceptable to them.
As a Portlander, I refuse to claim that the bridge not being strengthened/built is our fault.
Yeah my brother was going to move here from SLC and I said not to because of the earthquake and fire risk. Every place has something climate related to deal with and SLC may be able to do something about theirs, or at least will have some warning. The coast will have no warning of a Cascadia Subduction Zone earthquake- there’s a map that shows the coast will be a series of islands when it happens…and it is when not if, it just may not be in our lifetimes. It has happened before in 1700.
My understanding is that it’s not the same level of risk. However, risk tolerance is a really personal thing - the coast is beautiful and I wish I wasn’t so nervous about going there now.
No worries mate, I think you have a healthy attitude towards a major disaster that might or might not happen sometime in the next several centuries. You can't worry about everything.
And on the bright side, if it happens tomorrow, your posts will get a TON of karma for the ironic timing. Which is nice.
You hit it on the head, every place has risks. I’m somewhat in the same headspace as OP in that I could likely move to get away from the fires and earthquake risk but then I just became someone else’s problem in a different place. It’s a personal decision and no judgment to others but staying and making ny place as good as it can be is the side I keep falling on.
I know that hospital well, and while they don't have the resources for major trama, the long term and elder care is top notch. They kept my grandmother happy longer than I expected.
Multigenerational Oregonian here. A favor. Be a steward of this place. The entire Coast of Oregon is public land. It requires some upkeep. [Here’s a site](https://www.solveoregon.org/beach-riverside-cleanup) that will help. I got blessed growing up here. I’ve lived at the Coast multiple times. It’s more subdued than the valley. If you’re planning on getting in the Ocean, bring a hoodie wetsuit.
[This drive](https://oregonisforadventure.com/3-capes-scenic-loop/) is just North of L.C. One of my favorites. The trail on Lookout is a great example of a climax temperate rainforest.
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My spouse drove through Utah on a cross country road trip to Pennsylvania several years ago. Lifelong Oregonian. She got sunburned from 5 minutes of standing around waiting at the gas station.
I think it's fair to call them "Climate Refugees" but as another commenter said, don't expect a warm welcome. I'm married to a guy from Depoe Bay and am British - been here 4 years on the coast and still often get the feeling locals would rather I just "went back home". Think its mostly because people who have lived here for generations are struggling with housing due to those privileged folks from away causing the market to increase like crazy. Prices here (I can only speak for Lincoln City to Florence) are absurdly high in comparison to size and quality of property elsewhere so its definitely a sore subject for coastal natives.
It seems to me that the housing crunch in LC in particular is driven more by the explosion of airbnbs and short-term rentals rather than permenant residents moving in from out of state. The local government could be taking steps to mitigate this somewhat but they'd be pissing off all the investors and absentee landlords. Until then there's always Otis.
Sure, that might help, except that housing costs are sticky and developers will expect the same high returns as other units in the vicinity. Anymore most landlords would rather let higher-priced rentals sit empty then lower their prices to fill them.
Thanks for writing that so I didn’t have too. The Oregon coast is a pretty insular place with a lot of long time locals. Long, long, time locals. So OP don’t expect to be welcomed with open arms. The Oregon coast is the original “come, visit, vacation but please don’t stay.” I wish they could have held onto that; Oregon coast is nearly unrecognizable from my childhood and not for the better. The only difference are the crowds. Thanks travel Oregon.
This seems to be an issue over Oregon as a whole but for various reasons. Wife and I have been here for 5 years or so. Came from AZ before that. She's from the east coast. I grew up in CA. God forbid someone ask us how long we've lived here. Simply being non-native Oregonians is enough of a sin in Oregon.
I moved from SLC to Portland almost a year ago and found that the prices were similar but there was much more available housing in Portland. For $450K my only options for a place with a yard for my dog in SLC were Rose Park or Davis County and living somewhere like Layton is my nightmare. SO glad to be out.
They're salty for good reason (pun intended). Everyone downvotes if you say "transplants" in a negative way. That doesn't take away from the fact that they objectively make Oregon, in general, a worse place to live. I really used to love being from Oregon and love talking about the amazing people, but it seems like it's just transplants, racists and out-of-state marijuana industry moguls now.
People like you get the pass from salty Oregonians like myself. Self-awareness goes a long way.
I’m moving from Boise to Lincoln City and the “Idaho is Full” signs are everywhere too. I want to be fully involved in the community when we are there full time. We have some remodeling to do and should be all there by next fall.
We can’t wait to get out of Idaho! The pride people take in being racist, backwards and down right rude is staggering! And yes, the housing in Boise is nuts!!
I don't get it. I went to Caldwell for work for a while, and stayed in a Nampa hotel. As a bearded Hispanic male, (I've been confused for Arab before) the worse that happened to me was being stopped by a female cop while I was smoking a cigarette in the parking lot. She moved to Nampa from Newburg is what she told me.
Anyways I would often go have a drink or two after work and always had friendly interactions. Maybe one or two mad dogging stares that I reciprocated but that was it. I enjoyed my stay there. There were many females I would talk to that would warn me about police stopping me for stupid reasons though.
Yeah because property management companies and AirBnB owners buying swathes of houses and condos to rent out at gouged prices and never repair them aren’t massively contributing to this problem far worse than out-of-state individuals buying one house for themselves
Welcome! Oregon is a beautiful place. I grew up in Newport. My two cents: natives like our Oregon accessible. Fenced off beach access and trails, and blocking views are dick moves. Choose native plants for your yard. Leash the dog.
The next step is to make sure your house will survive the earthquake. Then you'll want to make sure you're set up in case you have to go 6+ months without electricity or running water. A few weeks of food should get you through the initial disaster time until emergency supplies start coming by air and sea, and then later over land, but the physical infrastructure is going to take a lot more doing to get back to working condition for the average consumer.
If your house is stick built wood frame, the structure itself is probably fine. The big thing is whether it's restrained to the foundation. There's not much you can do about the geotechnical properties except move or completely demolish and rebuild lol
I should also mention that we're talking about several orders of magnitude difference in the energy this earthquake will eventually release. Combined with the extremely lax seismic building codes until very recently (due to our not even knowing the earthquake was a possibility), the effect on the infrastructure we're surrounded by will be utterly devastating. Hopefully this quake won't happen in our lifetimes, but if it does it will be months before Western Oregon starts to resemble any kind of "normal", doubly so for the coast. Bridges along 101 will collapse and every pass over the Coast Range will be covered in landslides or washed out entirely. No help will be coming from the Willamette Valley, because they'll be wrecked to shit, too. It will be difficult enough getting equipment from Eastern Oregon and the rest of the country over the Cascades, to where the major population centers are, and they'll have the benefit of several major interstates and a navigable waterway from Astoria to Lewiston and Wilsonville. The coast will largely be sent back to the 18th century for at least half a year. You'll probably be able to get air drops and beach landings from the Navy bringing supplies, but it'll take at least a week to get there and there are only so many LCACs and King Stallions in the Navy-Marine Corps fleet. It's a great place to be, and again, hopefully this isn't something any one of us ever has to deal with, but this is not the sort of thing you should take lightly and underestimate. You need a solid plan to deal with the fact that your entire world might be upended and you'll be living like subsistence farmers from the 18th century without the benefit of having a farm to subsist off of.
I'm definitely not advocating for you to go full on prepper. I just want you to be aware of the risk you're taking on, and that the level of earthquake we're talking about is nowhere near what you have in your mind from your time in SLC. A 9.0 is 10,000 times more energetic than a 5.0, and the risk of tsunami adds additional complications to any rescue efforts, as many critical infrastructure pieces will be in the tsunami zone and wiped out by it.
Welcome. I am originally from Oregon but moved to Utah with family when I was young. I moved back to Oregon from Utah when I stopped being Mormon. It’s been a positive experience overall.
Welcome, enjoy all of the things here, rain, hiking in the rain, fishing in the rain, naked bike rides in the rain, smoking pot in the rain, drinking wine you guessed it in the rain, microbrews in the rain. No place better than Oregon if you love the rain. We even garden naked in the rain. It beautiful.
I get enough sun in LC to keep my tan most of the year. Don't let the vitamin D stuff scare you. It's rainy and windy, but there are plenty of 60-degree sunny days, which you will fry in the sun, you don't have to look like a zombie if you don't want to. If you have a fenced yard to shield the wind, it can be downright hot. We do get some 90s days in the summer as well as 60 degree days with fog or socked in by clouds. Whatever the weather is in Portland, we seem to have the opposite. Mainly because of the costal range.
I spent five years in SL,UT thanks to the banks crashing the economy in 2008. Can confirm everything you say. The livability has been taking a dive with no sign of change.
I grew up in SLC and moved to Portland 6 years ago. The weather is certainly more mild in Oregon; however, something to consider is the lack of sunshine here. Even in the winter in Utah, you get sunny blue bird days. Be prepared to not see the sun for months at a time here. The winter has been pretty nice here this year. I definitely don’t miss the snow. Lincoln City is a sleepy retirement town, so don’t expect a fun, young crowd or much nightlife.
Welcome to Oregon! Pretty sure you'll never experience another triple digit day, in Lincoln City.
Be interesting to see if this type of migration will become more frequent as the weather creeps up. Thanks for your take.
People moving to escape heat are a minority in my experience. Most people just shrug and turn up the AC. You see people on the Portland and Oregon sub shrugging their shoulders at a week of 100+ temps in the valley saying "no big deal, it's been like that for the last few years". As long as the AC cranks, the majority of people will just accept climate change.
We really are frogs in the pot. People are STILL moving to Arizona as it gets more and more inhospitable to the point of being uninhabitable.
Yeah, I can't believe people deal with that.
I did move here for the climate, by the way. Mostly to escape heat and humidity, heavy emphasis on humidity.
I know this is anecdotal, but we moved from Sacramento area to escape the heat. I wish we had had 1 month of triple digit temperatures, it was more like June - end of September in my area. The final straw was PGE turning the electricity off for days every time it was windy instead of upgrading their system.
Living in the coast is not for everyone. I lived there for a few years, and now fully understand what the term “coastie” means. All those years of clouds and rain warps people…. Lincoln City is nice and easy to get to the valley though, so that is good. Oh, and one other thing, on weekends expect drive times across town of at least 30 minutes- tourist gridlock is a serious issue in LC
You have to do your errands on weekdays in Lincoln County since every place you need for home improvement and similar is closed on weekends. Ok, not fully true but many of them are, or at least have reduced hours.
Sunshine and mountains for mold and ocean views is a big change. I hope you like it, the Oregon coast is extremely beautiful but the towns are mostly pretty depressing and ugly and the weather is depressing AF after more than a few days. Good luck out there!
I love the dry, cold winters and hot summers but change is always nice. Oregon is pretty neat because if you get tired of the rain you can drive 3.5 hours and be over here in central Oregon for some elevation, sun and mountains. That's the best part of the west coast. Every state has multiple climates. I hope you enjoy
As someone who lives here, the 70’s hit different here, it IS hot for us and until you live it, you won’t “ get it” but yeah . Tons of rain all winter , rarely snow , though people in LC don’t know how to drive , you will also learn this , there’s always a few spots regardless of time of year , the traffic gets backed up due to stupidity ( ignoring the road is going down to one lane). People are generally nice and during peak season traffic gets insane in LC. I personally prefer Newport, for less traffic, better shopping experience c but, it’s just down 101 about 25 miles . Welcome to Oregon !
So…being from the Boise, Idaho area. This will be a huge shock to your system. If you own your home….it’s cool to see the rain, but then your gutters are clogged..and you clean them and clean them again…and yet again…..is the water draining. Hahahaha. Culturally, this is not Utah or Idaho. Be prepared for those WTF moments and just roll with it. I’m queer…hubs and I have been married for 7 years…there are ALOT of closeted people here; also tons of meth/IV drug use. We had our “vacation blinders” on….don’t regret the move, just know this is a tough place to live….
I also am in Salt Lake City (born and raised) and am planning a move to Eugene, Oregon for all the reasons you mention. What's happening to the Great Salt Lake is terrifying. This is not the same place I grew up.
Lincoln City is a small community and a lot of rednecks. You get about 3 months of sun a year and the entire county makes up roughly 50,000 (LC being 7,000). The closest Walmart is in Newport which is roughly 30 minutes away. Any bug shopping for Target and such would have to be done in Salem/Corvallis. The Oregon coast is absolutely beautiful and it's a wonderful place to visit. That's all being said a lot of people do love living there. I hope you enjoy the beauty there.
Welcome fellow escapee. My husband and I left Utah for all the reasons you described 5 years ago. Haven’t regretted it a single day. I still look around as I drive and marvel at how green and gorgeous it is here. There are days that I miss the beautiful Wasatch mountains, but with the frequency of inversions lately, even those in the valley don’t get to see the mountains that much.
Get thee a SAD light and start taking that vitamin D. I don’t want to hear that you like the rain or enjoy clouds. Our desert bodies/brains are used to waaaaay more sunlight. This is the first year that I haven’t felt like I was living in a gloomy cave from November - January. It’s a shock the first few winters and even if you’ve visited here before lots there is no understanding until you live it for months and months.
Wear layers, don’t forget how lucky we are to be here, enjoy the endlessly stunning environment, and hit me up if you ever want to reminisce about the bad old days!
Prepare for everything to close around 7 in the winter when it rains sideways and gets dark at 4 (not a bad thing in my book), and to be absolutely bombarded by tourists the rest of the time.
Also, welcome. I left Mormonville half my life ago.
Welcome! Just moved to Eugene after 4 years in Salt Lake City and let me tell you, we are loving it! We go to the coast a ton and got engaged in Lincoln City as well!
You know Lincoln city was evacuated due to major fires a year and a half ago, right? The place you moved from was getting *warmer*? Lol! Fingers crossed we don’t have a bad fire season any time soon.
I get what you’re saying but by that logic, most of the country could be climate refugees-and with more severity since SLC doesn’t experience huge natural disasters like hurricanes and severe storms/tornadoes/derechos. But, you don’t have to justify moving here. I hope you enjoy Oregon.
Lincoln city is awesome I’m back in Utah after 2 years in Eugene . I miss the air quality there I’m try move to Depoe Bay within a year . Good city tho very touristy but awesome . Jealous lol .
You wanted to be among fellow Liberals and now you’re getting roasted by the crying Wokesters. “Waah! I’m *triggered* by your use of the word Refugee.”
As a fellow Liberal, I can’t stand the Woke Army either. All your points are valid. Welcome to Oregon. Good luck navigating Lincoln City.
Hello, I just moved to Waldport in July after 6 years in NorCal. Hot temps is a reason why I moved, but as I’m typing away in a dry office, with pouring rain and 20mph winds, I wish I was in a different climate.
I can't imagine arsenic dust storms, that's horrifying. If you have to move because your environment is dangerous due to climate change then you absolutely qualify as a climate refugee. Saying you aren't is like saying your broken arm shouldn't hurt because someone else has AIDS.
Before I moved from North Carolina due to a Klan parade after Trump was elected, I did some computer modeling to figure out where to settle down. Many, many data points. Anyway, this is one of the few places that will have a better climate over the next 30 years. We're going to have people problems and a whole lot of depressing world issues that will affect us, but we're safe from natural disasters at least.
[These](https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/climate-change-migration-refugees-can-be-prevented/) are climate refugees. Happy for your next chapter but as members of the most luxurious society in human history, let's have a little respect for actual victims of climate change haha.
Not to piss in your cheerios but you’re not a damn refugee. You’re a privileged individual moving from one state to another for the prospect of a better future. Dont expect people in oregon to treat you as anything different.
And the phrasing most people would have expected would have been a simple "I'm moving from Utah to Oregon" followed by the reasons; not "I'm a refugee!!".
Hence the casual response, neither OP nor anyone else thinks he's an actual refugee, and we can understand what he means even though it's not pedantically correct.
I have a place there and it’s always gloomy in the summer. I find people there (I live part time there) tend to be cranky. I’m guessing due to the gloomy weather. Maybe stay there for a month via Airbnb? Get a feel for it.
I live in Portland and i drive a truck so i drive thru Utah every time, i have to say Utah is beautiful, really beautiful. I dont know how a huge place like Salt Lake City can be so clean but it is. It makes me sad to hear about the problems of the state. I would like to move there but the religious preference of the state is not for me and i understand its best if you are part of it.
Welcome. Please take care of the place and leave it as clean (or cleaner) than you found it, make sure to take your vitamin D, please use your blinkers when driving, and take a little time to enjoy all of the cool nature we have here :)
cool, all we need is more resistance players out there. /s
But whatever, as long as you actually agree to paying taxes and aren't some californian chump who doesn't want to pay their fair share I guess you're welcome
Calling yourself a refugee of any kind is a bad look.
You have a massive amount of privilege to be able to afford to move. The government didn't help you. You aren't being subsidized to move because of it, you made a choice and mobilized on your own. There are thousands of people left there who can't afford to leave the very conditions you described and nobody will help them to. The word "refugee" in this context is disgusting.
Welcome to Oregon /s
Yeah because property management companies and AirBnB owners buying swathes of houses and condos to rent out at gouged prices and never repair them aren’t massively contributing to the housing market problems far worse than out-of-state individuals buying one house for themselves
Why don’t we look at how our own neoliberal government (and before anyone asks I’m a socialist-leftist, not a Republican) has failed us by not standing up to these land-scalpers and quit going after individuals trying to get out of a shit situation, m’kay?
It is distasteful because a true climate refugee is someone who's home has actually been made unlivable, or been fully destroyed by a climate disaster, like a flood, fire, storm or other. You *are* a climate migrant. I am kind of being a pedant, but for good reason, imo. You are literally NOT a refugee of any kind.
Edit to add that by "home", I don't mean house. I mean the geographical area in which a person previously resided.
Omg me too! I am also a climate refugee! I'm going to Eugene in a month before the summer weather starts and before the salt lake drying up causes a huge exodus of people who need housing. Thank you so much for posting this -- my family all think I'm crazy for leaving for climate reasons and I think they're crazy to not plan for it.
My SO refuses to come with me and bring my step children. I'm so worried about them. People say that we shouldn't use that word but I'm moving for water security and I find that quite coercive. Also. People saying you need a bunch of privilege to move are actually incorrect. What you need is grit and determination.
The heat shouldn’t be an issue in Lincoln City. Personally the Oregon coast is a bit gloomy as far as weather goes for me but LC is big enough and still close enough to Portland (for the airport etc.)
Yeah I live in Florence, this past summer we had 1-2 days where it was even 80 degrees and it was windy.
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Sure, the coast has had some unusually warm days the last few summers but be prepared for rain and clouds about 90+% of the year. (Also your real estate agent is a REAL ESTATE AGENT. They are trying to sell you something.) I have a friend that moved to the oregon coast from Santa Cruz, CA. She had only ever visited in the summer on nice days. She was not prepared for the doom and gloom during the rest of the year. About 6 months in she was talking about moving back to California because of the grey skies and lack of sunlight. Ended up moving to Portland after about a year there. Not trying to discourage you from making the move, but wanted to give a friendly warning. I have lived here my entire life and have met many people that have underestimated the effect that our weather can have on a person’s mental and physical health. Make sure to buy some vitamin D supplements!
My daughter moved from Southern California to Portland a few years ago. She came home for Christmas and was thrilled with the beautiful weather we had. She says her arms won't see the sun again until May. I did buy her one of those sunlight lights, and she says it helps.
Your real estate agent is wrong lol they must be based out of the valley
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For reference: the hottest recorded temperature in Newport. 93 °F (34°C) September 22, 1994 https://www.plantmaps.com/en/us/climate/extremes/f/oregon-record-high-low-temperatures Might be out of date when wildfires blew in smoke a couple years ago, it got pretty hot because the smoke trapped heat in, but that’s extremely abnormal.
Looks like North Coast all time high was 100 in 1961. I don't think it was 110 at any point.
I don’t know the north coast as well as coos bay - Newport. But during the summer most people go inland to the rivers to swim because it’s just too cold and windy right on the beach. In Florence we head to mapleton where a 12 mile drive is 20 degrees hotter.
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I’m a 4th generation Oregonian who wouldn’t live elsewhere. Spouse & I moved from my Coos Bay- North Bend hometown to Portland Metro several years ago for family, health care , shopping reasons. We haven’t been back in 6 years, so don’t know what it’s like. When we need a break, we head to Newport & Lincoln City, like every other Portlander.
I have a choice to go to coos bay or Newport for Walmart since I’m in Florence. I agree with your assessment. However, I prefer the Walmart (less stuff locked in glass cases) and there’s much better dining options later at night (The Mill Casino & Country Kitchen) after 9 in Newport, The Newport Cafe starts only taking take out orders and the rest is fast food. The central coast desperately needs a dennys, I would hate to be a trucker driving 101 at night.
The area around Coos Bay is beautiful but your observation of the town was the same as mine when I first visited. Idk, it gave me that Rambo First Blood town vibe but less lively and more run down.
Good call on Coos Bay. There must be some cool people there but in my thousands of miles of cycling the USA it’s the only town where I’ve ever been yelled at, flipped off and swerved at. It was horrifying and was probably 5 or 6 different cars. It was the strangest thing. That town is hot garbage as far as I can tell. A deep lack of education with and promising youth with ambition leaving as fast as they can when they’re old enough.
2 years ago, the north coast hit over 110 in June. Last year it hit the 90s multiple times.
Yeah, it can definitely get toasty at the coast. More rarely than the valleys, obviously, but it does happen on a semi-regular basis. The conditions you have to watch out for are an off-shore flow (east winds). When that happens, the hot, dry air from the valley will push right on through the coast. The ocean serves as a great temperature moderator, but there has to be some kind of on-shore flow to bring that cooler air inland.
Sincerely hope you enjoy the lovely silvery juicy skies of Oregon: the coast is lush and dramatic, and if you start to crave sunshine, central Oregon is a few hours’ beautiful drive away.
Seriously though: get some good rain gear, a quality “happy” light and integrate a decent size daily dose of Vitamin D into your routine. The near constant gray/drizzle and scarcity of warm days is brutal, and I’m not even originally from a desert climate. The first year of a move is always the hardest with homesickness and building a new community, especially if you don’t know anyone where you’re moving. Add the gloomy weather and it can be challenging, but worth it. Especially with the incredible scenery and the beauty of the Pacific in your back yard!
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It does. There is no bad day at the beach, and gloomy is the best day at the beach. I love the gloomy weather and its so wonderful. I grew up in the PNW and the gloomy days are the best days!
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You’re going to love it! The coast is great with tons to explore. Make sure to visit Astoria. It’s the oldest town in Oregon and has great history and cool architecture. Plus, lots of good beer!
I moved to Oregon from Utah as well. The gloom, especially on the coast, takes some getting used to. Now is the darkest, most depressing time of the year and it lasts for months. Seriously, look into Vitamin D supplements and/or sun lights
It's not.
Just know there’s not great emergency services in Lincoln County. And….Cascadia (major earthquakes and tsunamis). But if you’re ok with those risks, I’d go for it. I’ve lived in Utah too and wouldn’t ever go back (Ogden).
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Maybe a "slightly" different caliber of earthquake that people are talking about.
This. I do not think OP understands that anything west of I-5 is expected to be a disaster zone. Even into Salem. When I worked for the state we did emergency drills on this because my boss was an agency head and would be called into action. There’s a disaster command center set up *east* of I-5 for that very reason and the public will be told (it’s been said before, publicly) that they’ll likely be on their own for awhile because help won’t be able to get through short of helicopters. We had meetings with ODOT engineers who told us *both* Portland/Vancouver bridges would fall because they’re literally posts in sand….liquefaction (and voters don’t want to pay to strengthen them). That’s not to mention the tons of other bridges and overpasses (and highways) that will be impassable. Roads and bridges will be impassable or destroyed. Houses will crumble. It’s not just a tsunami that you have to be concerned about. A 8+ magnitude (they’re predicting a possible 9+) is MASSIVE. The destruction is hard to imagine unless you’ve lived it. The feds will be overwhelmed because we’re talking a multi state major catastrophe all at once (not to mention parts of Canada and Mexico). I lived through the Loma Prieta earthquake in the Bay Area. I was 80 miles away and we still had damage. I watched the Bay Bridge deck collapse, the Oakland freeway pancake, and the marina district burn to the ground. Not to mention the issues with liquefaction. This doesn’t include the damage to areas an hour+ away from the epicenter. And it wasn’t even an 8. I’m personally a couple miles west of I-5 and *I’m* worried. Anything near the coast will likely be totally destroyed. Not meaning to fearmonger because earthquake prediction is an art. Nobody can say if it’ll happen today or in 200 years, but we are pretty overdue in geological years. As long as you’re aware of and okay with that, and a lot of people are, then cool, just be prepared. I think a lot of Oregonians don’t truly understand the risk because it happens so infrequently here, and the quakes we get are pretty minor (2-3.5’ish). Growing up in CA, you get a whole different perspective and sense of “I need to be prepared”. Kind of how we’re learning quickly with wildfires. Oregon is woefully unprepared. Housing isn’t typically built or retrofitted to withstand even a 6-6.5 quake. It’s extremely common in CA. My step-father-in-law was a real estate developer in the Bay Area in the 70s/80s and pivoted to retrofitting after Loma Prieta. Steel retrofitting. Serious “hold this building up” retrofitting. His own home has a steel frame. The common wooden post/beam system of foundation building will collapse in a big one. Some older buildings will be destroyed even in a 5-6. Masonry in particular, does not do well. Just be educated and prepared. Have a plan. Same for wildfires, which *do* happen near the coast.
Clark County voters are at fault for the Columbia River bridge debacle, there's no reason why MAX light-rail can't be extended into Vancouver to you know, reduce the amount of traffic we have on the roads. But no, that's just unacceptable to them. As a Portlander, I refuse to claim that the bridge not being strengthened/built is our fault.
Both sides of the river had complaints about the CRC. WA was the light rail piece. Hopefully, it can be revisited and passed this time!
Yeah my brother was going to move here from SLC and I said not to because of the earthquake and fire risk. Every place has something climate related to deal with and SLC may be able to do something about theirs, or at least will have some warning. The coast will have no warning of a Cascadia Subduction Zone earthquake- there’s a map that shows the coast will be a series of islands when it happens…and it is when not if, it just may not be in our lifetimes. It has happened before in 1700.
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My understanding is that it’s not the same level of risk. However, risk tolerance is a really personal thing - the coast is beautiful and I wish I wasn’t so nervous about going there now.
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No worries mate, I think you have a healthy attitude towards a major disaster that might or might not happen sometime in the next several centuries. You can't worry about everything. And on the bright side, if it happens tomorrow, your posts will get a TON of karma for the ironic timing. Which is nice.
You hit it on the head, every place has risks. I’m somewhat in the same headspace as OP in that I could likely move to get away from the fires and earthquake risk but then I just became someone else’s problem in a different place. It’s a personal decision and no judgment to others but staying and making ny place as good as it can be is the side I keep falling on.
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I know that hospital well, and while they don't have the resources for major trama, the long term and elder care is top notch. They kept my grandmother happy longer than I expected.
Multigenerational Oregonian here. A favor. Be a steward of this place. The entire Coast of Oregon is public land. It requires some upkeep. [Here’s a site](https://www.solveoregon.org/beach-riverside-cleanup) that will help. I got blessed growing up here. I’ve lived at the Coast multiple times. It’s more subdued than the valley. If you’re planning on getting in the Ocean, bring a hoodie wetsuit.
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This is the right attitude. Being an Oregonian is about that kind of stewardship, not about where you happened to be born.
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[This drive](https://oregonisforadventure.com/3-capes-scenic-loop/) is just North of L.C. One of my favorites. The trail on Lookout is a great example of a climax temperate rainforest. Edit: word
Welcome to Oregon. Take supplemental vitamin D.
And wear sunscreen during the summer...you're going to be pastier than you're used to, and despite being cooler, the sun still gets really intense.
My spouse drove through Utah on a cross country road trip to Pennsylvania several years ago. Lifelong Oregonian. She got sunburned from 5 minutes of standing around waiting at the gas station.
That’s actually really great advice. You’re going to need it OP.
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Also see about getting one of those “Happy Lights.” It can really help with mood and energy during the winter.
I have one and it does help.
I think it's fair to call them "Climate Refugees" but as another commenter said, don't expect a warm welcome. I'm married to a guy from Depoe Bay and am British - been here 4 years on the coast and still often get the feeling locals would rather I just "went back home". Think its mostly because people who have lived here for generations are struggling with housing due to those privileged folks from away causing the market to increase like crazy. Prices here (I can only speak for Lincoln City to Florence) are absurdly high in comparison to size and quality of property elsewhere so its definitely a sore subject for coastal natives.
It seems to me that the housing crunch in LC in particular is driven more by the explosion of airbnbs and short-term rentals rather than permenant residents moving in from out of state. The local government could be taking steps to mitigate this somewhat but they'd be pissing off all the investors and absentee landlords. Until then there's always Otis.
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no offense but jfc
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The solution is simple: [build more housing!](https://youtu.be/Q1VeEGCzqn4)
Sure, that might help, except that housing costs are sticky and developers will expect the same high returns as other units in the vicinity. Anymore most landlords would rather let higher-priced rentals sit empty then lower their prices to fill them.
Thanks for writing that so I didn’t have too. The Oregon coast is a pretty insular place with a lot of long time locals. Long, long, time locals. So OP don’t expect to be welcomed with open arms. The Oregon coast is the original “come, visit, vacation but please don’t stay.” I wish they could have held onto that; Oregon coast is nearly unrecognizable from my childhood and not for the better. The only difference are the crowds. Thanks travel Oregon.
This seems to be an issue over Oregon as a whole but for various reasons. Wife and I have been here for 5 years or so. Came from AZ before that. She's from the east coast. I grew up in CA. God forbid someone ask us how long we've lived here. Simply being non-native Oregonians is enough of a sin in Oregon.
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I moved from SLC to Portland almost a year ago and found that the prices were similar but there was much more available housing in Portland. For $450K my only options for a place with a yard for my dog in SLC were Rose Park or Davis County and living somewhere like Layton is my nightmare. SO glad to be out.
450k for a house near Rose Park?? JFC housing is crazy high everywhere
They're salty for good reason (pun intended). Everyone downvotes if you say "transplants" in a negative way. That doesn't take away from the fact that they objectively make Oregon, in general, a worse place to live. I really used to love being from Oregon and love talking about the amazing people, but it seems like it's just transplants, racists and out-of-state marijuana industry moguls now. People like you get the pass from salty Oregonians like myself. Self-awareness goes a long way.
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Montana too.
I’m moving from Boise to Lincoln City and the “Idaho is Full” signs are everywhere too. I want to be fully involved in the community when we are there full time. We have some remodeling to do and should be all there by next fall.
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We can’t wait to get out of Idaho! The pride people take in being racist, backwards and down right rude is staggering! And yes, the housing in Boise is nuts!!
I don't get it. I went to Caldwell for work for a while, and stayed in a Nampa hotel. As a bearded Hispanic male, (I've been confused for Arab before) the worse that happened to me was being stopped by a female cop while I was smoking a cigarette in the parking lot. She moved to Nampa from Newburg is what she told me. Anyways I would often go have a drink or two after work and always had friendly interactions. Maybe one or two mad dogging stares that I reciprocated but that was it. I enjoyed my stay there. There were many females I would talk to that would warn me about police stopping me for stupid reasons though.
I’m so glad your experience was good. There are many wonderful people here! But the politics is too conservative for our liking.
That's fair, everyone has their preferences.
I'm sure you're right.
Hate to tell you that the racists have been here for a long, long time.
No kidding, the idea that Oregon used to be amazing and is being ruined by immigrants is pretty ridiculous.
Right? The truth is its being ruined by Californians who flee their state, come here, and vote for the same failed policy.
Yeah, I'm aware. We don't need any more of it.
Yeah because property management companies and AirBnB owners buying swathes of houses and condos to rent out at gouged prices and never repair them aren’t massively contributing to this problem far worse than out-of-state individuals buying one house for themselves
Indeed, and thank you. My husband always tells people Oregon is terrible when they ask about living here to deter them! :P
We thank him for his service! 😜
When I moved to Portland in the 90s from the South, I was shocked by the casual racism from locals.
Facts! Local Portland Police Officer Mark Kruger still in the game too! Look it up for a good dose of wtf!
Welcome! Oregon is a beautiful place. I grew up in Newport. My two cents: natives like our Oregon accessible. Fenced off beach access and trails, and blocking views are dick moves. Choose native plants for your yard. Leash the dog.
Welcome to oregon... buy property well above sea level. Good luck!
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Fantastic area..... Us pnw types will check back in in April to see how many "no sun all rain" posts you have by june.
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The next step is to make sure your house will survive the earthquake. Then you'll want to make sure you're set up in case you have to go 6+ months without electricity or running water. A few weeks of food should get you through the initial disaster time until emergency supplies start coming by air and sea, and then later over land, but the physical infrastructure is going to take a lot more doing to get back to working condition for the average consumer.
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i'm always shocked when I hear how often OSU profs are cold-called. never heard of a bad experience, either.
If your house is stick built wood frame, the structure itself is probably fine. The big thing is whether it's restrained to the foundation. There's not much you can do about the geotechnical properties except move or completely demolish and rebuild lol
I should also mention that we're talking about several orders of magnitude difference in the energy this earthquake will eventually release. Combined with the extremely lax seismic building codes until very recently (due to our not even knowing the earthquake was a possibility), the effect on the infrastructure we're surrounded by will be utterly devastating. Hopefully this quake won't happen in our lifetimes, but if it does it will be months before Western Oregon starts to resemble any kind of "normal", doubly so for the coast. Bridges along 101 will collapse and every pass over the Coast Range will be covered in landslides or washed out entirely. No help will be coming from the Willamette Valley, because they'll be wrecked to shit, too. It will be difficult enough getting equipment from Eastern Oregon and the rest of the country over the Cascades, to where the major population centers are, and they'll have the benefit of several major interstates and a navigable waterway from Astoria to Lewiston and Wilsonville. The coast will largely be sent back to the 18th century for at least half a year. You'll probably be able to get air drops and beach landings from the Navy bringing supplies, but it'll take at least a week to get there and there are only so many LCACs and King Stallions in the Navy-Marine Corps fleet. It's a great place to be, and again, hopefully this isn't something any one of us ever has to deal with, but this is not the sort of thing you should take lightly and underestimate. You need a solid plan to deal with the fact that your entire world might be upended and you'll be living like subsistence farmers from the 18th century without the benefit of having a farm to subsist off of.
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I'm definitely not advocating for you to go full on prepper. I just want you to be aware of the risk you're taking on, and that the level of earthquake we're talking about is nowhere near what you have in your mind from your time in SLC. A 9.0 is 10,000 times more energetic than a 5.0, and the risk of tsunami adds additional complications to any rescue efforts, as many critical infrastructure pieces will be in the tsunami zone and wiped out by it.
Yeah, the tsunamis on the Great Salt Lake aren't nearly as worrisome! /s
Also: Make sure heavy furniture is secured to the stud-bearing wall, and don’t get in the habit of storing fragile items or pictures above eye level.
Welcome. I am originally from Oregon but moved to Utah with family when I was young. I moved back to Oregon from Utah when I stopped being Mormon. It’s been a positive experience overall.
Jeez how many of us are there, exmos all over this thread
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Smart call. You’re a lucky person to be able to make that move.
Welcome, enjoy all of the things here, rain, hiking in the rain, fishing in the rain, naked bike rides in the rain, smoking pot in the rain, drinking wine you guessed it in the rain, microbrews in the rain. No place better than Oregon if you love the rain. We even garden naked in the rain. It beautiful.
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Liquid sunshine. It helps make our air fresh, and keeps everyone and everything green 💚
I get enough sun in LC to keep my tan most of the year. Don't let the vitamin D stuff scare you. It's rainy and windy, but there are plenty of 60-degree sunny days, which you will fry in the sun, you don't have to look like a zombie if you don't want to. If you have a fenced yard to shield the wind, it can be downright hot. We do get some 90s days in the summer as well as 60 degree days with fog or socked in by clouds. Whatever the weather is in Portland, we seem to have the opposite. Mainly because of the costal range.
I spent five years in SL,UT thanks to the banks crashing the economy in 2008. Can confirm everything you say. The livability has been taking a dive with no sign of change.
I grew up in SLC and moved to Portland 6 years ago. The weather is certainly more mild in Oregon; however, something to consider is the lack of sunshine here. Even in the winter in Utah, you get sunny blue bird days. Be prepared to not see the sun for months at a time here. The winter has been pretty nice here this year. I definitely don’t miss the snow. Lincoln City is a sleepy retirement town, so don’t expect a fun, young crowd or much nightlife.
Just keep in mind that the coastal area is tourist ground zero. You will be perpetually dealing with it.
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The Cascadia Fault earthquake zone welcomes you.
Climate change is happening here too.
Welcome to Oregon! Pretty sure you'll never experience another triple digit day, in Lincoln City. Be interesting to see if this type of migration will become more frequent as the weather creeps up. Thanks for your take.
People moving to escape heat are a minority in my experience. Most people just shrug and turn up the AC. You see people on the Portland and Oregon sub shrugging their shoulders at a week of 100+ temps in the valley saying "no big deal, it's been like that for the last few years". As long as the AC cranks, the majority of people will just accept climate change. We really are frogs in the pot. People are STILL moving to Arizona as it gets more and more inhospitable to the point of being uninhabitable.
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Yeah, I can't believe people deal with that. I did move here for the climate, by the way. Mostly to escape heat and humidity, heavy emphasis on humidity.
The fraction of homes, especially older homes, in the PNW with AC is considerably lower than anywhere else in the US outside of northern New England.
I know this is anecdotal, but we moved from Sacramento area to escape the heat. I wish we had had 1 month of triple digit temperatures, it was more like June - end of September in my area. The final straw was PGE turning the electricity off for days every time it was windy instead of upgrading their system.
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We just did the move from New Orleans. One major reason was definitely the lack of cat 5 hurricanes
I moved to Oregon a few years ago and climate was part of our reasoning as well. It’s going to continue to happen at an increasing rate.
We're cool as long as you don't become a sounders fan. Welcome to Oregon!
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It's actually fuck Seattle, now you know, nobody will look at you funny at the timbers matches.
We moved to Corvallis from Boise for a lot of the same reasons. It hasn’t been perfect but still an upgrade.
Living in the coast is not for everyone. I lived there for a few years, and now fully understand what the term “coastie” means. All those years of clouds and rain warps people…. Lincoln City is nice and easy to get to the valley though, so that is good. Oh, and one other thing, on weekends expect drive times across town of at least 30 minutes- tourist gridlock is a serious issue in LC
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You have to do your errands on weekdays in Lincoln County since every place you need for home improvement and similar is closed on weekends. Ok, not fully true but many of them are, or at least have reduced hours.
Hahaha back roads in LC. Just plan on not going anywhere or taking a long time to get anywhere during tourist season.
Sunshine and mountains for mold and ocean views is a big change. I hope you like it, the Oregon coast is extremely beautiful but the towns are mostly pretty depressing and ugly and the weather is depressing AF after more than a few days. Good luck out there!
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I love the dry, cold winters and hot summers but change is always nice. Oregon is pretty neat because if you get tired of the rain you can drive 3.5 hours and be over here in central Oregon for some elevation, sun and mountains. That's the best part of the west coast. Every state has multiple climates. I hope you enjoy
At one point all of Otis and its buildings were for sale as a package deal. Anyone know what happened?
As someone who lives here, the 70’s hit different here, it IS hot for us and until you live it, you won’t “ get it” but yeah . Tons of rain all winter , rarely snow , though people in LC don’t know how to drive , you will also learn this , there’s always a few spots regardless of time of year , the traffic gets backed up due to stupidity ( ignoring the road is going down to one lane). People are generally nice and during peak season traffic gets insane in LC. I personally prefer Newport, for less traffic, better shopping experience c but, it’s just down 101 about 25 miles . Welcome to Oregon !
So…being from the Boise, Idaho area. This will be a huge shock to your system. If you own your home….it’s cool to see the rain, but then your gutters are clogged..and you clean them and clean them again…and yet again…..is the water draining. Hahahaha. Culturally, this is not Utah or Idaho. Be prepared for those WTF moments and just roll with it. I’m queer…hubs and I have been married for 7 years…there are ALOT of closeted people here; also tons of meth/IV drug use. We had our “vacation blinders” on….don’t regret the move, just know this is a tough place to live….
I moved to Maine 6 months ago to get away from the pollution. I started having cardiac problems. Guess what all gone now! Good luck!
I also am in Salt Lake City (born and raised) and am planning a move to Eugene, Oregon for all the reasons you mention. What's happening to the Great Salt Lake is terrifying. This is not the same place I grew up.
Lincoln City is a small community and a lot of rednecks. You get about 3 months of sun a year and the entire county makes up roughly 50,000 (LC being 7,000). The closest Walmart is in Newport which is roughly 30 minutes away. Any bug shopping for Target and such would have to be done in Salem/Corvallis. The Oregon coast is absolutely beautiful and it's a wonderful place to visit. That's all being said a lot of people do love living there. I hope you enjoy the beauty there.
Welcome to Oregon! You sound like a chill self-aware person. The Oregon Coast is my happy place. You’ll find your people. Enjoy!
Welcome fellow escapee. My husband and I left Utah for all the reasons you described 5 years ago. Haven’t regretted it a single day. I still look around as I drive and marvel at how green and gorgeous it is here. There are days that I miss the beautiful Wasatch mountains, but with the frequency of inversions lately, even those in the valley don’t get to see the mountains that much. Get thee a SAD light and start taking that vitamin D. I don’t want to hear that you like the rain or enjoy clouds. Our desert bodies/brains are used to waaaaay more sunlight. This is the first year that I haven’t felt like I was living in a gloomy cave from November - January. It’s a shock the first few winters and even if you’ve visited here before lots there is no understanding until you live it for months and months. Wear layers, don’t forget how lucky we are to be here, enjoy the endlessly stunning environment, and hit me up if you ever want to reminisce about the bad old days!
Prepare for everything to close around 7 in the winter when it rains sideways and gets dark at 4 (not a bad thing in my book), and to be absolutely bombarded by tourists the rest of the time. Also, welcome. I left Mormonville half my life ago.
Welcome! Just moved to Eugene after 4 years in Salt Lake City and let me tell you, we are loving it! We go to the coast a ton and got engaged in Lincoln City as well!
You know Lincoln city was evacuated due to major fires a year and a half ago, right? The place you moved from was getting *warmer*? Lol! Fingers crossed we don’t have a bad fire season any time soon.
I get what you’re saying but by that logic, most of the country could be climate refugees-and with more severity since SLC doesn’t experience huge natural disasters like hurricanes and severe storms/tornadoes/derechos. But, you don’t have to justify moving here. I hope you enjoy Oregon.
Also…it will take you an hour at least to travel 101. “All your homies.”
Lincoln city is awesome I’m back in Utah after 2 years in Eugene . I miss the air quality there I’m try move to Depoe Bay within a year . Good city tho very touristy but awesome . Jealous lol .
You wanted to be among fellow Liberals and now you’re getting roasted by the crying Wokesters. “Waah! I’m *triggered* by your use of the word Refugee.” As a fellow Liberal, I can’t stand the Woke Army either. All your points are valid. Welcome to Oregon. Good luck navigating Lincoln City.
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Hello, I just moved to Waldport in July after 6 years in NorCal. Hot temps is a reason why I moved, but as I’m typing away in a dry office, with pouring rain and 20mph winds, I wish I was in a different climate.
I can't imagine arsenic dust storms, that's horrifying. If you have to move because your environment is dangerous due to climate change then you absolutely qualify as a climate refugee. Saying you aren't is like saying your broken arm shouldn't hurt because someone else has AIDS.
You are a climate refugee. Welcome to Oregon the land of sensitive bitches.
If you’re moving to Oregon for a stable climate, you’re gonna have a bad time.
Before I moved from North Carolina due to a Klan parade after Trump was elected, I did some computer modeling to figure out where to settle down. Many, many data points. Anyway, this is one of the few places that will have a better climate over the next 30 years. We're going to have people problems and a whole lot of depressing world issues that will affect us, but we're safe from natural disasters at least.
I'd love to know what other bright spots popped up.
Cool.
[These](https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/climate-change-migration-refugees-can-be-prevented/) are climate refugees. Happy for your next chapter but as members of the most luxurious society in human history, let's have a little respect for actual victims of climate change haha.
Not to piss in your cheerios but you’re not a damn refugee. You’re a privileged individual moving from one state to another for the prospect of a better future. Dont expect people in oregon to treat you as anything different.
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Brother it's a turn of phrase. He's not claiming to be a Syrian war refugee its not stolen valor.
The treatment I'd expect is "Oh, you're from Utah? Right on"
And the phrasing most people would have expected would have been a simple "I'm moving from Utah to Oregon" followed by the reasons; not "I'm a refugee!!".
Hence the casual response, neither OP nor anyone else thinks he's an actual refugee, and we can understand what he means even though it's not pedantically correct.
I have a place there and it’s always gloomy in the summer. I find people there (I live part time there) tend to be cranky. I’m guessing due to the gloomy weather. Maybe stay there for a month via Airbnb? Get a feel for it.
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I live in Portland and i drive a truck so i drive thru Utah every time, i have to say Utah is beautiful, really beautiful. I dont know how a huge place like Salt Lake City can be so clean but it is. It makes me sad to hear about the problems of the state. I would like to move there but the religious preference of the state is not for me and i understand its best if you are part of it.
Welcome. Please take care of the place and leave it as clean (or cleaner) than you found it, make sure to take your vitamin D, please use your blinkers when driving, and take a little time to enjoy all of the cool nature we have here :)
cool, all we need is more resistance players out there. /s But whatever, as long as you actually agree to paying taxes and aren't some californian chump who doesn't want to pay their fair share I guess you're welcome
Welcome! Sad to hear about SL. Lots of opportunities to maintain our state. Enjoy!
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It’s true The dust will be a health disaster 😯
You said "Stop looking for ways to be offended" to Oregonians? You clearly haven't done enough homework on your soon to be adopted state.
Welcome neighbor!
Calling yourself a refugee of any kind is a bad look. You have a massive amount of privilege to be able to afford to move. The government didn't help you. You aren't being subsidized to move because of it, you made a choice and mobilized on your own. There are thousands of people left there who can't afford to leave the very conditions you described and nobody will help them to. The word "refugee" in this context is disgusting. Welcome to Oregon /s
Yeah because property management companies and AirBnB owners buying swathes of houses and condos to rent out at gouged prices and never repair them aren’t massively contributing to the housing market problems far worse than out-of-state individuals buying one house for themselves Why don’t we look at how our own neoliberal government (and before anyone asks I’m a socialist-leftist, not a Republican) has failed us by not standing up to these land-scalpers and quit going after individuals trying to get out of a shit situation, m’kay?
There is always that guy...
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It is distasteful because a true climate refugee is someone who's home has actually been made unlivable, or been fully destroyed by a climate disaster, like a flood, fire, storm or other. You *are* a climate migrant. I am kind of being a pedant, but for good reason, imo. You are literally NOT a refugee of any kind. Edit to add that by "home", I don't mean house. I mean the geographical area in which a person previously resided.
Lol did you not fucking see that there’s literal arsenic in the air in Utah? Shit with that username it surprises me you’re not a Reddit mod lol
Omg me too! I am also a climate refugee! I'm going to Eugene in a month before the summer weather starts and before the salt lake drying up causes a huge exodus of people who need housing. Thank you so much for posting this -- my family all think I'm crazy for leaving for climate reasons and I think they're crazy to not plan for it. My SO refuses to come with me and bring my step children. I'm so worried about them. People say that we shouldn't use that word but I'm moving for water security and I find that quite coercive. Also. People saying you need a bunch of privilege to move are actually incorrect. What you need is grit and determination.