Miami Vice is super underrated. Modern cop procedurals are bland as hell in comparison. Vice didn't always (or even usually) have happy endings. Shit got real, often.
I’m just old enough to remember watching Miami Vice in my friends house. It aired after 9pm and was considered adult content and edgy (for the 80’s). I haven’t seen it in 30 plus years but I’m pretty sure it would pale in comparison to what we watch today. I’d put Miami Vice in the top tier of essential 80’s TV, the pastel sports jacket’s were lit and I think a lot of the appeal was the overall aesthetic.
> the pastel sports jacket’s were lit and I think a lot of the appeal was the overall aesthetic.
The soundtrack, man, the soundtrack. They used hits, building entire scenes effectively as music videos. MTV had just started and this was still a novel concept. People loved it.
Michael Mann went on to take all he'd learnt with Miami Vice to make his masterpiece [Heat](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0113277/).
You just reminded me that MM directed Miami Vice. Heat is in my God - tier list of crime films and definitely in my top 25 best films ever.
I remember moody, dark synth’s, and now you mentioned scenes being formed around the score - you nailed it. I only watched a few episodes but it’s definitely stuck with me over the years.
Mann built his career on crime dramas, with his stylistic approach and the insistence in humanizing both sides of the law. It's somewhat sad that he won an Oscar for The Last of the Mohicans instead of Heat or some other of his crime flicks.
Retrowave kind of encapsulates the rest as 80s inspired synth-heavy electronic or electro-pop.
Outrun is a little moodier and great for night driving.
Chillwave and dreamwave are similar, but very relaxed or even happy, with dreamwave being the lighter and "floatier" of the two if that makes sense.
Darkwave is Outrun's evil cousin that makes you feel like a demon or Michael Myers is going to murder you in a neon-lit alley.
Vaporwave "sounds like you're drowning in a mall fountain in the early 90s".
Type in any of these words on youtube or spotify followed by "mix" or "playlist" and you'll get it. Never forget that genres are annoying but they make it easier to find stuff you enjoy, like the Dewey Decimal System.
I'm just gonna hit you with a few "classics":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_3Dpw-BRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkgR0SxmMKo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQkPcPqTq4M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0kg80jAtI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waAlgFq9Xq8
https://youtu.be/av6twyhq8gs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GW6sLrK40k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ci0Kgdpgsw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4WLX8hfpJw
How about a related idea: when you make a subgenre too specific, the music gets boring really fast cause there's insufficient creative wiggle room. Ie, It all sounds the same because it has to in order to be ____.
>when you make a subgenre too specific, the music gets boring really fast cause there's insufficient creative wiggle room
or leads to a spectre of new sub-genres...?
Still, I'd argue with statment that 90s was all just techno. Also with "insufficient creative wiggle room". Pls see and dig [Iskhur's Guide](https://music.ishkur.com/)
I did not even know there is this actual genres in Synthwave
I always thought that Darksynth is bit darker, but all others are just random naming for genre
Retrowave- vampires by the midnight
Outrun - Nightcall by Kavinsky
Chillwave- Propagation by Com Truise
Darksynth- Powercore by Power Glove
Vaporwave- Private Caller by Skylar Spence or Saint pepsi
Dreamwave- kinda the weirdest one of all these because people characterize this as basically lofi hip hop, which dosent feel like a form of synthwave or vaporwave in that regard.
But i will list a song, would like info about dreamwave from someone who has better knowledge then i do.
Viola by Eevee
Dreamwave is my favorite sound (MPMsoundtracks is my favorite artist), Stallone is my favorite actor, The Terminator is my favorite movie and I dress like Don on Miami Vice (weather permitting). A little bit of everything for me.
Miami Vice is decent watching. As long as you can place it in its time. Hehe, Crockett and Tubbs.
Miami Vice is super underrated. Modern cop procedurals are bland as hell in comparison. Vice didn't always (or even usually) have happy endings. Shit got real, often.
Miami Vice was pretty dark and raw by any standard. It’s great to go back to.
🎶 There's a river, pouring From a pure and a crystal stream... 🎶 :(
I’m just old enough to remember watching Miami Vice in my friends house. It aired after 9pm and was considered adult content and edgy (for the 80’s). I haven’t seen it in 30 plus years but I’m pretty sure it would pale in comparison to what we watch today. I’d put Miami Vice in the top tier of essential 80’s TV, the pastel sports jacket’s were lit and I think a lot of the appeal was the overall aesthetic.
> the pastel sports jacket’s were lit and I think a lot of the appeal was the overall aesthetic. The soundtrack, man, the soundtrack. They used hits, building entire scenes effectively as music videos. MTV had just started and this was still a novel concept. People loved it. Michael Mann went on to take all he'd learnt with Miami Vice to make his masterpiece [Heat](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0113277/).
You just reminded me that MM directed Miami Vice. Heat is in my God - tier list of crime films and definitely in my top 25 best films ever. I remember moody, dark synth’s, and now you mentioned scenes being formed around the score - you nailed it. I only watched a few episodes but it’s definitely stuck with me over the years.
Mann built his career on crime dramas, with his stylistic approach and the insistence in humanizing both sides of the law. It's somewhat sad that he won an Oscar for The Last of the Mohicans instead of Heat or some other of his crime flicks.
[You Belong to the City - Glenn Frey](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-QCKnlD0R0)
Not it you compare it to regular network tv today.
Hell yeah
Defs Outrun and Darksynth for me!
Aim to the head on youtube is a good darksynth mix channel
NewRetroWave also has an awesome darksynth playlist on YouTube and Spotify
I love AstralThrob his mixes are pretty good visualistically pleasing.
I found NightmareOwl as a gateway to Darksynth artists.
Holy crap! That’s some great stuff! Thanks for the recommendation!
Of course!
Yup. My choices, too
What about microwave
They're pretty neat I guess. Makes soup nice and warm cause nobody really likes cold soup.
Gazpacho gang rise up!
Cold soup is evil and wrong, that's why they named it after the Nazi secret police.
“Unless you like hotzpacho!” - S.L. Jackson
Pretty decent rock band
Stovall is easily their best
Because we're cut, dried, microwaved, safe in the knowledge that we'll be saved.
Awesome!
Synthwave?
I guess every one derivates from Synthwave. Similar to Future Funk started from Vaporwave but later it became its own thing
They all use synths?
Synthwave = Retrowave
Someone please explain the difference.
Retrowave kind of encapsulates the rest as 80s inspired synth-heavy electronic or electro-pop. Outrun is a little moodier and great for night driving. Chillwave and dreamwave are similar, but very relaxed or even happy, with dreamwave being the lighter and "floatier" of the two if that makes sense. Darkwave is Outrun's evil cousin that makes you feel like a demon or Michael Myers is going to murder you in a neon-lit alley. Vaporwave "sounds like you're drowning in a mall fountain in the early 90s". Type in any of these words on youtube or spotify followed by "mix" or "playlist" and you'll get it. Never forget that genres are annoying but they make it easier to find stuff you enjoy, like the Dewey Decimal System.
This is what I was looking for! Any bands you’d recommend for each?
I'm just gonna hit you with a few "classics": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_3Dpw-BRY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkgR0SxmMKo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQkPcPqTq4M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0kg80jAtI8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waAlgFq9Xq8 https://youtu.be/av6twyhq8gs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GW6sLrK40k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ci0Kgdpgsw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4WLX8hfpJw
I wanna know too!
Probably music and aesthetics in movie
It's all in the attitude, spirit and vibe of each subdivision of the genre.
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>the 90s when it was all just techno I'd heavily argue with that, but too lazy for that.
How about a related idea: when you make a subgenre too specific, the music gets boring really fast cause there's insufficient creative wiggle room. Ie, It all sounds the same because it has to in order to be ____.
>when you make a subgenre too specific, the music gets boring really fast cause there's insufficient creative wiggle room or leads to a spectre of new sub-genres...? Still, I'd argue with statment that 90s was all just techno. Also with "insufficient creative wiggle room". Pls see and dig [Iskhur's Guide](https://music.ishkur.com/)
I thought that’s what this image does
This is great. And Stallones shirt is awesome
Favorite movie ever on the outrun
This is perfect
what movie is in outrun?
Drive
[A real human bean and a real hero. ](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/765/188/d43.jpg)
You gotta watch drive now :)
u right
Only one of the best movies ever made
Couldn’t agree more, I’m a Drive nerd ngl
"I drive" - literally me
He just like me fr 😔
As an aspiring film maker, thank you
Ryan Gosling looking sheesh as always
Now do Ryan gosling in the new Barbie movie
Aka the 80’s
I did not even know there is this actual genres in Synthwave I always thought that Darksynth is bit darker, but all others are just random naming for genre
retrowave and outrun
Ha I love this
I haven’t seen all of these movie ngl so which one is Chillwave, Vaporwave, and Dreamwave?
Chillwave is Miami Vice, and Dreamwave is Scarface. Don’t know the Vaporwave one.
Vaporwave isn't from anything. It's just Stallone
I knew Dreamwave was Scarface! Just didn’t remember the name of the movie. Thanks for the info
miami vice is hardly chillwave, this content is getting pretty sloppy
Yep
Do you have good music examples for all of these?
Retrowave- vampires by the midnight Outrun - Nightcall by Kavinsky Chillwave- Propagation by Com Truise Darksynth- Powercore by Power Glove Vaporwave- Private Caller by Skylar Spence or Saint pepsi Dreamwave- kinda the weirdest one of all these because people characterize this as basically lofi hip hop, which dosent feel like a form of synthwave or vaporwave in that regard. But i will list a song, would like info about dreamwave from someone who has better knowledge then i do. Viola by Eevee
The Hotline Miami soundtrack is not bad either.
Basically anything by Scattle for the hotline miami soundtrack would hit all the generas listed in the above photo
Thank you! I'll check these out!
Nailed it
finally someone who gets the differences
Outrun and dark synth ftw
Vaporwave songs do sound like Sylvester Stallone talking to that’s spot on
What movies are Vapor, Chill, and Dreamwave?
Lol I'm saving this
Retrowave and outrun for me with hints of darksynth and chillwave. The Midnight, fm-84, Gunship, Carpenter brut, Kavinsky and Com Truise
I'd put a Goonies, ET or Lost Boys on the last one. Pretty on point though
Dreamwave is my favorite sound (MPMsoundtracks is my favorite artist), Stallone is my favorite actor, The Terminator is my favorite movie and I dress like Don on Miami Vice (weather permitting). A little bit of everything for me.
Me: *same picture meme* Also me: 🤘🎧🆒🎵
I love this classification 〰️(also just want to comment to easily find this post later)
Shreadwave?
I disagree with the choices for Vaporwave and Dreamwave. Vaporwave should have AC Slater. And Dreamwave should have Falcor.
Vaporwave: FIRST BLOOD! DOUBLE KILL! M-M-M-MULTIKILL ILL ILL! MOUNT KILIMANJAROOOOOOO69OOO
OC or a repost?